I'm Going To Become A Newbie

15 years ago

Andy,

This will be fun to watch. If an Old Geezer like me can start from scratch, a young man like you cna start over. Especially if you can get Kevin Riley to mentor you.

However, you being as lazy as you are, this may well be a long trek. Let me know and I will do my best to carry you, as you struggle through the desert.

In all seriousness though it will be a lesson for all of us. Looking forward to more post.

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Saul'

15 years ago

Good luck but I don't think you'll need it. It always is hard to start but only if you are really new, as in you know nothing about it. When you do have the know-how and experience, everything is easy. Just like everywhere in life.

And oh yes, it is definitely not harder than it was ever before - easier if anything due to much greater demand not only in US but worldwide.

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MizzCindy

15 years ago

Andy,

This will be an interesting experiment to watch. While you will have more knowledge onboard than the average beginner, anyone looking to learn a bit about targeting their effort could certainly benefit from this.

Good luck to you! I look forward to watching your progress.

Cindy

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Steven Wagenheim 15 years ago

Andy, I have absolutely no doubt that you will find that it isn't hard to make
substantial money online just starting out.

Let me tell you why.

In spite of the fact that so many people have blasted my business model
(one that I have since abandoned) for the longest time, I made money on
a shoestring budget, no professional copywriting or web design, and not even
building a list. In fact, I did so many things just flat out wrong, that I have
no doubt that every guru on this planet (if they saw my business plan and
everything I did for 6 years) they'd say without any hesitation that there is
no way in hell that I made any money.

But I did...in spades.

The sad thing is...if I did things the "right" way, I probably would have
made a lot more than I have. I made a ton of mistakes, dismissed methods
because they cost too much, and almost avoided any kind of JVs or
counting on help from others. Heck, I've never had any Clickbank product
with a gravity higher than 5.

And if I had to start all over again today, I'd avoid the MMO niche altogether,
go build a product and site in a niche with huge demand and do things the
right way (provided I had the money). If not, I'd slowly build my list through
articles, social networking and forum participation.

I'd write to other sites in my niche and tell them how we could help each
other, making sure I had something of real value to offer them.

I actually could have pulled this off in the fortune telling niche that I
entered last year if I had a product that people wanted, but I didn't. But
the number of sites I got interested in promoting it were substantial. Too
bad they couldn't sell it.

With the same work ethic (and yes, it will take work) and a product people
wanted, I could have climbed to number 1 at Clickbank just like Travis
Sago did with MOMU.

It really isn't hard.

What's hard, for many people, is believing that it can be done.

With your positive attitude, you'll do just fine.

My money is on you.
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ShellySamuel

15 years ago

I will be keeping eye of this thread, as a newbie, mabe follow your foot step. It will be very interesting to watch

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Troy_Phillips

15 years ago

@ Steven

I actually could have pulled this off in the fortune telling niche that I
entered last year if I had a product that people wanted, but I didn't. But
the number of sites I got interested in promoting it were substantial. Too
bad they couldn't sell it.

Sorry but if you had just cleaned that crystal ball :-)

I did a similar thing with my list this year . I Gave a list a chance to cross over to a new list and then proceeded to delete 1000 members a day for ten days .

Now I am no fool. This list was old and unresponsive . I then built the list back from 100% free resources (except the ar) . I am talking free hosted website and all. No payed traffic either . I then packaged the process and sold it to the list members that had chosen to move from the deleted list .

I gave the old converted list members regular updates and didn't send them the first link during the rebuilding . One of the best converting offers I have ever had

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Germanakos

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Hi,

I just thought I'd share something with you guys.

I keep hearing people complain that IM isn't as easy anymore and that it's not really possible to start out now and do well. It seems that some people think it's ok for those of us that started a few years ago but that things aren't as 'easy' anymore.

So I decided to find out.

I've sold 'most' of my IM related resources and just kept a couple of sites and my blog and I'm going to start from scratch again to see what the reality of things really is now.

I'm doing some consulting for an American company and also trying to get create a software product that I hope will do really well, so I'm working very much like most people with little time and will need to fit in the IM around the other things I have going on.

I'm pretty lazy so if I can create anything substantial then I'll be pretty confident that anyone else could do it.

I'm not going to turn this thread into a 'watch me do it' type of thing, I just wanted to share with you that I'm doing it in case you wonder what's going in if I start saying weird things or you wonder why I'm not doing some of the things I used to.

The money I made has also been put into my software business so I don't have a reserve to waste on PPC or anything, so I really will be doing it like everyone else.

It'll be interesting to see what happens because when I started out in IM I had a big debt and motivation to earn money, but now it's gone and I'm lazy so it should be harder to make it work. We'll see.

Andy

To truly start from scratch, you'd have to bump your head and get amnesia.

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Amy Bass

15 years ago

I think this is a GREAT idea! Nothing feels better than having a clean slate to work with. I look forward to seeing your results!

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Mrs Z

15 years ago

You may have 'one-up' on the newbies. I am assuming you already 'know how' to do it. I am a newbie and still figuring it all out!
Since I'm going the 'basically free' route...I'm pretty sure it will take a little longer.
Hoping you have tons of success though!

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DeePower 15 years ago

Andy: Oh Sweetie, deciding you're going to be a newbie is kinda like deciding you're gonna be a virgin.

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- MizzCindy 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DeePower
  
  Andy: Oh Sweetie, deciding you're going to be a newbie is kinda like deciding you're gonna be a virgin.
  
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  OK, that's just LOL funny!
  
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- Troy_Phillips 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DeePower
  
  Andy: Oh Sweetie, deciding you're going to be a newbie is kinda like deciding you're gonna be a virgin.
  
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  Now that is funny ( and correct ) no matter who you are
  
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- rohesiarain 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DeePower
  
  Andy: Oh Sweetie, deciding you're going to be a newbie is kinda like deciding you're gonna be a virgin.
  
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  Yes, I have to agree this is truly a PRICELESS statement!!!
  
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- Diane S 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DeePower
  
  Andy: Oh Sweetie, deciding you're going to be a newbie is kinda like deciding you're gonna be a virgin.
  
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  That is hilarious...I nearly spit out my coffee all over my desk when I got to this reply, Dee! I have no doubt Andy will succeed beyond his wildest dreams!
  
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  Ray Erdmann 15 years ago
  
  This is going to be an interesting thread...for sure!
  
  Thus, I'm going to be following it like a Hawk spotting dinner from hundreds of yards in the sky.. :-)
  
  and that comment about being a virgin...priceless!
  
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  Terry Hatfield 15 years ago
  
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  Just don't forget to change your tag line above your picture from . . .
  
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- DomiS 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by DeePower
  
  Andy: Oh Sweetie, deciding you're going to be a newbie is kinda like deciding you're gonna be a virgin.
  
  Dee
  
  Thanks Dee - you made my day - this is the funniest comment I've ever read on WF.
  
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Shane Hale

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Hi,

I just thought I'd share something with you guys.

I keep hearing people complain that IM isn't as easy anymore and that it's not really possible to start out now and do well. It seems that some people think it's ok for those of us that started a few years ago but that things aren't as 'easy' anymore.

So I decided to find out.

I've sold 'most' of my IM related resources and just kept a couple of sites and my blog and I'm going to start from scratch again to see what the reality of things really is now.

I'm doing some consulting for an American company and also trying to get create a software product that I hope will do really well, so I'm working very much like most people with little time and will need to fit in the IM around the other things I have going on.

I'm pretty lazy so if I can create anything substantial then I'll be pretty confident that anyone else could do it.

I'm not going to turn this thread into a 'watch me do it' type of thing, I just wanted to share with you that I'm doing it in case you wonder what's going in if I start saying weird things or you wonder why I'm not doing some of the things I used to.

The money I made has also been put into my software business so I don't have a reserve to waste on PPC or anything, so I really will be doing it like everyone else.

It'll be interesting to see what happens because when I started out in IM I had a big debt and motivation to earn money, but now it's gone and I'm lazy so it should be harder to make it work. We'll see.

Andy

Sweet man I look forward to seeing your progress! I love posts like these! I wish you would do a watch me do it sort of thing, it would be interesting!

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George Wright

15 years ago

Andy,

Amazing. I was thinking about doing the same thing RE: offline IM. I keep talking about how I went for that fateful walk many years ago offering to build websites for offline businesses. I only had bus fare in my pocket and one way bus fare at that.

Just yesterday I was wondering if I could do that again and have the same success I did years ago.

I'll be watching you and continue to think about doing the same.

George Wright

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Adrian Cooper

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Hi,

I just thought I'd share something with you guys.

I keep hearing people complain that IM isn't as easy anymore and that it's not really possible to start out now and do well. It seems that some people think it's ok for those of us that started a few years ago but that things aren't as 'easy' anymore.

Andy

Compared to creating and running a bricks and mortar business, IM is 10 gazillion times easier - even now.

After running bricks and mortar business for 20 years and entering IM, it is like "wow - this is surreal".

I guarantee that 99.9% of the very top Internet Marketers would totally fail in a bricks and mortar business. Well actually they would never get started.

IM is easy - very, very easy - but it changes and you still need commitment.

If you approach it the wrong way - to make a quick buck - you will fail for sure.

IM is still a business.

Bricks and mortar forces you to use proper business disciplines or die. In IM you can be really sloppy and still make money, but you still need commitment and business approach.

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Raghav Mishra

15 years ago

Well, it's going to be interesting, I'd say.

Assuming you don't touch anything else, you still have the knowhow and can work a lot faster than those others who haven't ever touched the IM thing.

But still, it's going to be interesting.

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The base assumption is faulty IMO.

With an increase in the number of IM'ers, the market has also increased proportionally. There are so many people searching for so weird things, you're surprised sometimes!

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Andyhenry

15 years ago

Wow I wasn't expecting so many comments - Dee you're so funny

While I agree that I can't exactly un-learn what I know, I have forgotten a lot

But I don't have the amount of motivation that I did when I first got in to IM, so it will actually be a struggle to give it the attention it needs/deserves.

I've had a brainstorming session and come up with a short-list of things I believe will work and their associated revenue generating possibilities, so if I can get the motivation up - I'll start planning them today so that I can get some seeds planted before my busy week of traveling starts. I'll pretty much only have weekends for the next 4 or 5 weeks, so definitely need to focus on working effectively.

I've had a programmer start work on a script and I've got a graphics person creating some minisite graphics, so hopefully I'll get that ready to launch next weekend whatever else is happening.

Andy

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Frank Donovan

15 years ago

Hi Andy

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

I've had a programmer start work on a script and I've got a graphics person creating some minisite graphics, so hopefully I'll get that ready to launch next weekend whatever else is happening.

I think that bears out what others have been saying in this thread. That's not the type of quote you'd read from many newbies.

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Andyhenry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Hi Andy

I think that bears out what others have been saying in this thread. That's not the type of quote you'd read from many newbies.

Frank

BUT - It's what we've all been saying we should be doing......

It's not anything that anyone here shouldn't be ok doing.

The graphics guys is a warrior and the programmer I found on Elance.

This is IM 101 stuff. There shouldn't be anyone here who doesn't know there are lots of warriors who do graphics, and have to post a project on Elance and Rentacoder (at least those two).

It's how we tell people to get stuff done quickly and without their own skills all the time.

Andy

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Frank Donovan

15 years ago

Andy,

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

It's not anything that anyone here shouldn't be ok doing.

The graphics guys is a warrior and the programmer I found on Elance.

This is IM 101 stuff. There shouldn't be anyone here who doesn't know there are lots of warriors who do graphics, and have to post a project on Elance and Rentacoder (at least those two).

It's how we tell people to get stuff done quickly and without their own skills all the time.

I'm not arguing with that. But I would guess that many newbies already know what they should be doing.

You already possess the belief, knowledge and experience that gives you the self-confidence to know that the actions you take will produce the results you want.

That's the difference.

However, your project will serve to demonstrate, yet again, that having the right mindset is the most important factor for success.

Best,

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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

Andy, Frank hit the nail right on the head. It's not the "know how" that
screws newbies. It's the mindset.

Do you know how many people write to me who want confirmation that if
they do XYZ that they will make money from it? In other words, if they
can't be guaranteed that they'll be successful doing something, they don't
want to do it.

That is absolutely the number 1 biggest problem with the majority of newbies.

So, when they do something and the money doesn't start coming in right
away, they chuck it and do something else.

That's what explains the mentality with all these MLMs that come and go.

Every newbie jumps on one, sees that it's not as easy as the site makes
it sound, so they jump ship and hit the next MLM. The average retention
of these programs is 90 days. Know why? Because that's about as long as
most people will wait to make a profit. Some quit after the first 30 days.

When you've done it and know that it works, then you already have a huge
advantage over those who are truly just starting...between the ears.

Still, on a technical "do it by the numbers" side, this WILL show newbies
that if they'd just believe and follow the simple tried and proven steps,
they can make money in this business even though they didn't get into
it 10 years ago.

It's getting past the mental barrier that's the hard part.

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Andyhenry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Andy, Frank hit the nail right on the head. It's not the "know how" that
screws newbies. It's the mindset.
When you've done it and know that it works, then you already have a huge advantage over those who are truly just starting...between the ears.

Still, on a technical "do it by the numbers" side, this WILL show newbies
that if they'd just believe and follow the simple tried and proven steps,
they can make money in this business even though they didn't get into
it 10 years ago.

It's getting past the mental barrier that's the hard part.

I'm not going to dispute that - I've always said (even before I ever heard of IM) that most things are more a matter of mindset and action than anything else.

But the point I would bring up is that when I suggest that others do these same things - they say things like "Yeah, I've read all the mindset books too" or "It's alright for you" as though either it's just what people say (but don't do) or I'm ok because I can think like that, but for them it's different.

The truth of the matter is - making money online 'should' be easy, but in the same way as losing weight is easy - everyone knows how to do it but some people say they want to - but behave like someone who doesn't.

Many people look down at the psychology of success as fluffy talk that doesn't apply to the 'real' world and therefore wouldn't help them. Or they say "yeah yeah, I can think there are no weeds in my garden but it doesn't make them go away" as though it's a waste of time.

In reality - you get what you focus on - if that's positive then you get more positivity, if it's negative - that's what you get more of. Your mind will always look for evidence to support your beliefs - and if you believe you will fail, you'll always find a way to make it happen - if even someone gives you a fool-proof set of steps to follow.

So, while it's true that I don't have a problem with believing I will succeed - I never did, even before I learned about IM - so it's not learning about this stuff that has resulted in this way of thinking, and therefore not something anyone else should think will come as a result of learning about IM - it's a LIFE thing. Sometimes you learn new ways to look at the world just from the experiences life throws at you - and usually they're the ones you think are bad.

Andy

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

I've had a brainstorming session and come up with a short-list of things I believe will work and their associated revenue generating possibilities...

In other words, you've...

accessed your huge range of experience
browsed thru all of the IM activities that you have knowledge of
used your familiarity with all of those activities to add the most promising to a short-list
applied your accumulated know-how to assess their potential financial return

Andy, these steps seem to me to be fundamental skills if someone is going to avoid wasting their time drifting or going around in circles. And the fact that these skills are described using words like "experience", "knowledge", "familiarity" and "know-how" explains precisely why so many newbies don't know how to take those steps, and why so many end-up adrift.

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Andyhenry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by John Henderson

In other words, you've...

accessed your huge range of experience
browsed thru all of the IM activities that you have knowledge of
used your familiarity with all of those activities to add the most promising to a short-list
applied your accumulated know-how to assess their potential financial return

Andy, these steps seem to me to be fundamental skills if someone is going to avoid wasting their time drifting or going around in circles. And the fact that these skills are described using words like "experience", "knowledge", "familiarity" and "know-how" explains precisely why so many newbies don't know how to take those steps, and why so many end-up adrift.

Well - That sounds right, but I was doing these exact same things when I started in IM - with ZERO previous knowledge.

They're still the right things to do (IMHO) and not based on having to have any experience or knowledge I now have - but I'm not naive to think it won't help - but then again I've spent over 5000 posts here and 6 years sharing my knowledge so there shouldn't be much that others don't have access to.

Andy

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Troy_Phillips

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Well - That sounds right, but I was doing these exact same things when I started in IM - with ZERO previous knowledge.

They're still the right things to do (IMHO) and not based on having to have any experience or knowledge I now have - but I'm not naive to think it won't help - but then again I've spent over 5000 posts here and 6 years sharing my knowledge so there shouldn't be much that others don't have access to.

Andy

People think I am lying when I tell them I made money my first try online .

I did it by having a great mentor .

Now newbies might not have the cash to go out and get that great mentor ( I didn't either I took the risk) but with 5000 post from you money should not be an issue .

Online marketing is easier today than it was when I started . I know a lot will disagree but if I would have had resources like wf in the beginning i would have actually turned a profit with that first sale

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Bev Clement

15 years ago

Andy, the problem is many newbies wouldn't have a clue Elance existed or there were graphic designers on the forum.

When I first came to the forum, I didn't know those basic things. I had an affiliate site up and making money.

I had no idea people would pay for me to write for them.

It might be IM101, but until a newbie gets hold of a copy of it, or spend time reading the forum, they wouldn't have a clue.

Also, many wouldn't have a clue about what type of scripts sell, and wouldn't know if they have made a good choice.

In one sense its about mindset, but for many it is a lack of knowledge. That is why they come here and ask what we think are basic questions.

The other thing to remember is most newbies have no spare budget to go out and hire people.

They will attempt to do things, they will try and install a blog and then ask people to make a comment on it.

They are surprised when someone offers to put something right for them, or to give them advice.

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Debbie Allen

15 years ago

Bev makes a very valid point - when I started here in the forum I knew nothing and my budget was extremely small. I had to read the same information presented in numerous ways several times before I actually 'got it' and I was mostly attempting to do everything for free.

I think that is typical for newcomers. But I am looking forward to reading the updates to this thread. It will be interesting and hopefully provide some guidelines for all of us.

Your success will come because you do have the knowledge and you know that it is possible. Many 'newbies' doubt that success is possible, making it much more difficult for them to ever achieve it. When it doesn't happen as quickly as they anticipate they give up completely or move on to another tactic, never mastering any along the way.

I can say from my own experience that this business requires a dedication and persistence. The quick pathway to wealth is not a reality for most of us.

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Pete from France

15 years ago

Hi Andy
Being a complete newbie this is going to be interesting to watch.
Bonne chance
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ragnartm

15 years ago

To me this sounds not only ridiculous, but pointless.. You're not a newbie, you know things real newbies do not. You know what to implement, what to stick to and how to stick to it. The list goes on and on and on. If you could somehow erase that from your memory your statement would be true, even if you think you act independently and do not rely on your memory, you most likely will even if it's unwillingly.

To complete the cliche, after making money, release a "case study" and promote your product/method as something that works for everyone.

This is just my slightly negative, but honest opinion.

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Andyhenry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ragnartm

To me this sounds not only ridiculous, but pointless.. You're not a newbie, you know things real newbies do not. You know what to implement, what to stick to and how to stick to it. The list goes on and on and on. If you could somehow erase that from your memory your statement would be true, even if you think you act independently and do not rely on your memory, you most likely will even if it's unwillingly.

Someone had to say it, it's a BS concept in a niche that's filled with enough BS already.

I understand and respect your point of view - but quite frankly I disagree.

The whole point is - I'm not doing anything (and not going to do anything) that we haven't already talked about here in this forum at some point.

It's RIDICULOUS to say that because I have experience that me doing these things is different to anyone else doing them.

The ONLY difference is what's going on in my head while I do them. I don't have a negative mindset so I'll just get on a do things which make sense - if they don't work - I'll learn from them and try again. If they do - I'll build on them.

This is no different to what everyone can do - NO DIFFERENT.

Now, while I say this I also know (because I've met a lot of them) that there are people who will look for excuses to support their failing approach - and even when someone else gives them a paint-by-numbers method they'll screw it up and say it doesn't work.

Some people really can't be successful at anything other than being unhappy.

I know that.... I accept that.

But this is not for those people, it's for the ones who just lack confidence and because of all the noise and crap around they lose fail in their abilities and start to make excuses. It's not that they're stupid, or any problem except that they listen to negative people and when times are hard - they believe them.

For some people failure is just proof that they're doomed - for others it's an opportunity to grow and create success.

The point I'm hoping to prove (I may fail) is that right now is as good a time as there ever has been to get in to IM and do well - regardless of whatever failures you've had in the past and regardless of whatever limitations you currently believe there are.

I'm no-one special. I'm just a guy trying to live a happy life and help a few people be happier along the way. I'm not a guru or born lucky.

Andy

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ragnartm

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

I understand and respect your point of view - but quite frankly I disagree.

The whole point is - I'm not doing anything (and not going to do anything) that we haven't already talked about here in this forum at some point.

It's RIDICULOUS to say that because I have experience that me doing these things is different to anyone else doing them.

The ONLY difference is what's going on in my head while I do them. I don't have a negative mindset so I'll just get on a do things which make sense - if they don't work - I'll learn from them and try again. If they do - I'll build on them.

This is no different to what everyone can do - NO DIFFERENT.

Now, while I say this I also know (because I've met a lot of them) that there are people who will look for excuses to support their failing approach - and even when someone else gives them a paint-by-numbers method they'll screw it up and say it doesn't work.

Some people really can't be successful at anything other than being unhappy.

I know that.... I accept that.

But this is not for those people, it's for the ones who just lack confidence and because of all the noise and crap around they lose fail in their abilities and start to make excuses. It's not that they're stupid, or any problem except that they listen to negative people and when times are hard - they believe them.

For some people failure is just proof that they're doomed - for others it's an opportunity to grow and create success.

The point I'm hoping to prove (I may fail) is that right now is as good a time as there ever has been to get in to IM and do well - regardless of whatever failures you've had in the past and regardless of whatever limitations you currently believe there are.

I'm no-one special. I'm just a guy trying to live a happy life and help a few people be happier along the way. I'm not a guru or born lucky.

Andy

I'm not negative or unhappy by nature, I just felt a need to offer some resistance and you overcame it beautifully, I look forward to seeing the results of your project.

Thanks to your post I already have an idea on how to turn my failed report completely around and make it worth the time I spent writing it. I apologize if I offended anyone with the post above.
Cheers, and good luck. If this works out I'll beat you to the first profits.

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Fairlinks 15 years ago

Good luck to you, but as someone hinted earlier, I doubt whether it was a wise decision.
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15 years ago

No matter what you do, have fun!

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Jeremy Kelsall 15 years ago

Andy, there is no doubt in my mind that even if you wiped every piece of IM knowledge from your brain, you would still be a success...

Andy has the kind of mindset that we all need as Marketers. He is confident, happy, and SURE OF HIS DIRECTION -- which is what most peole that don't make money lack.

I'd like to add too...

It was only a couple of months ago that Andy had a report all typed up and ready to go...It was a VERY GOOD REPORT that he was going to sell. At the last minute, he said the hell with it, I'm just going to give it away for free and hope that it helps some people. I don't even think he required an opt-in. He lost a lot of money by doing that, but it made him happy to do it because that is the kind of person he is.

So, when Andy says something, you can be sure it isn't just a ploy to get in your pocket. He seems to have a legitimate desire to see others succeed.
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MizzCindy

15 years ago

OK, several folks have firmly established that Andy will have an advantage over a new newbie by virtue of his accumulated experience and knowledge. Point taken.

However, that leads to perhaps the biggest value of his experiment. He won't be hindered by fear! Fear of failure. Fear of screwing up. Fear of looking foolish. Fear of the unknown. I, personally, have suffered from all of these maladies at one point or another. And I'm sure I'm not alone.

If new folks can look at how he started taking action right out of the gate, without guarantee of success, then maybe they'll be motivated to give it a go, too. Wouldn't that be nifty?

Nobody here can force someone to gather the courage to try. But each and every time a warrior comes along and says 'you can do this', s/he gives a little nudge to somebody. Those little nudges might just be responsible for the beginning of someone's life-changing moment.

So, Andy, if only one new person takes action based on this little experiment, then that makes it a full-blown success.

Much luck to you. I'll look forward to your updates.

Cindy

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Steven Wagenheim 15 years ago

Let me add some more of my 2 cents to this mix.

There is one thing that can actually overcome mindset even if you're a
negative person and think you will fail...at least in my case.

It's called need.

When I started in IM, it was because I lost my job and was in dire straights.

I needed to make this work. I had no choice. It was that or end up on the
street.

Call it desperation if you want.

Point is, if you need something bad enough to survive, no matter how
hopeless you think that thing is, you'll find a way to get it done.

I did.
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- Andyhenry 15 years ago
  
  That's an interesting point Steven and when I started I was also in that boat.
  
  But with that said - if your mind is looking for failure you can easily sabotage success no matter how bad you need it.
  
  I think the 'need' comes into play stronger if you are an action-taker and need to make something work. If you're prone to lazyness you can make most things fail.
  
  I'm sure there are many newbies to IM that will tell you they 'need' to make it work - yet don't behave like that's the case (i.e don't spend their time actually doing things to move forward).
  
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hangtimenino

15 years ago

this is very interesting. and i am sure i will follow your progress.:-)

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