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Have I missed the Boat again?

by trustedmarketer
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I missed the great premium dot com domains and now dot guru. I wanted to focus on flipping these gurus.

Majority of the premium dot guru domains have been taken. I must have spent 2 good hours looking for quality domains without much success. Can you good folks recommend a good strategy for getting quality ones or have I missed the dam boat again?
#boat #domain #dot com #dot guru #flipping #missed
  • Profile picture of the author bmw040
    You can try purchasing the .com from the current owner. That is if you think you can make a profit.
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    • Profile picture of the author trustedmarketer
      Thanks bmw but I wanted to flip .guru domains. I had this impression that there would be thousands of one word extensions.

      Originally Posted by bmw040 View Post

      You can try purchasing the .com from the current owner. That is if you think you can make a profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author bmw040
    Oh, I see. sorry, I misunderstood.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    It might be fate that intervened. .guru won't hold near the value or be nearly as resellable as .com. I personally feel all these new domains are junk and wouldn't touch them.
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    • Profile picture of the author RickCopy
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      It might be fate that intervened. .guru won't hold near the value or be nearly as resellable as .com. I personally feel all these new domains are junk and wouldn't touch them.
      never understood the big deal with .coms.... Google doesnt favor them and 99.9999% of the public couldn't care less if you have a .org or a .net domain.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by RickCopy View Post

        never understood the big deal with .coms.... Google doesnt favor them and 99.9999% of the public couldn't care less if you have a .org or a .net domain.
        Well, the ordinary public is not "domain aware". Most of them have no clue that there are many different extensions. Most of them are aware of .com. A few more are aware of .net and .org and some even .info. As for the rest of them, like .guru and .anystupidshit, they are not aware of them. So if they don't notice your extension and don't remember it, they will go to the .com if they are typing in the domain. If they're following a link, it is not even likely they will notice it's a .guru.

        Internet marketers and web designers and hosting co, etc know of these domains, but the general public mostly does not.

        These domains make icann and registrars money, but that's about it. There are always those who will grab them up for speculation, especially the one word ones, but few who will make a bunch of money with them.
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        • Profile picture of the author RickCopy
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          So if they don't notice your extension and don't remember it, they will go to the .com if they are typing in the domain. If they're following a link, it is not even likely they will notice it's a .guru.
          Actually this is a point I hadnt thought of. When I registered my authority site domain the .com was parked and they wanted a ton for it. I just checked and now the.com is a crappy drop ship site for products in my exact niche. Considering the traffic I get I guess shouldn't be surprised...it feels icky to think some of my readers may end up there and think they're on my site. Having a .com would have definitely alleviated this issue altogether.


          I feel violated and educated at the same time...so thanks for that.
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        • Profile picture of the author MonopolyOnline
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Internet marketers and web designers and hosting co, etc know of these domains, but the general public mostly does not.
          I agree with sbucciarel, that the ordinary public is primarily aware of .com.

          They understand a little about .net and probably more so about .org and .gov.

          Personally I only use .com because the average person is going to assume my domain is a .com and thus makes it easier for them to remember.

          If you have a niche target market 'InternetMarketing.guru', 'Data.io', 'lobste.rs' (actual site), then an alternative to .com makes sense.

          But as a rule, it is easier for people to remember a .com name.

          My Doctor brother went with DrHisName.net. His office gets phone calls all the time asking for his website address because they can't find him at DrHisName.com.

          And reselling non .com names is going to be tough as an ongoing business model.
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    • Profile picture of the author dalegolden
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      It might be fate that intervened. .guru won't hold near the value or be nearly as resellable as .com. I personally feel all these new domains are junk and wouldn't touch them.
      Everything in IM cannot revolve around .com.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
    I agree, it will be a long time before any but a very few .guru domains would show any value on the resale market.

    Listen, there is a lot of confusion out there about all of the new domain extensions. There are literally going to be new domain extensions coming out every week for the foreseeable future. The internet just isn't big enough to accommodate all of these in any way that keeps us in "business as usual" mode.

    My feeling is that the new extensions will create some wonderful new creative opportunities for actual people with great ideas to be developed. However, it is an absolute wasteland for domain speculators. Why would you try to hoard a "good" domain in an unproven extension when there are literally hundreds (if not thousands) of other new options available?

    For speculators, .com will remain the best bet for quite some time. Eventually, some alternatives might succeed and present some sort of competition, but to try to predict what they will be today is a game for people with deep, deep pockets only.

    My advice: pick your best domains and focus on developing them into actual businesses that help people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sagar Mehta
      Originally Posted by Jack Gordon View Post

      My feeling is that the new extensions will create some wonderful new creative opportunities for actual people with great ideas to be developed.
      This exactly. Someone's gonna come up with a creative way to use those domains in a way that helps their website/business/service.

      I had an hour long discussion about the new extensions, and some awesome ideas came up - starting with using the guru domains to create authority sites around a person or niche, all the way to using the ".land" domains to create authority sites or even marketplaces for 'art' 'design' 'logos' etc.

      I think there's potential, just not as much flipping potential.

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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    It's easy to come up with good names that are
    available with .guru.

    I spend 10 minutes and came up with 7 names,
    one of them only five letters.

    Also: new domain extensions http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9000538
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      for what it's worth I would advise if you can't get a .com, buy a .net or a .org - in my case I would even consider a .ca - but as a last resort -

      I think if I were you I would forget about getting one word domains (you've missed the boat unless you have tons of money ) and focus more on niche-specific keyword domains with three or four words. They are still effective, I think.
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    • Profile picture of the author ClickDale
      AAhhh....it sucks to miss out on an opportunity. I can think of dozens. But on a positive note, I haven't felt this way in a loooong time. If I see a good opportunity, I will jump on it without hesitation.

      In this case, you didn't miss a thing. The .guru holds as much value as a .loser or a .toe a dot .afro. Wait....maybe a .afro would be kinda cool. Anyways, I wouldn't stick to anything other than .com, and maybe a .net.

      Don't sweat over this one. There are way more opportunities out there that will yield better results.
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  • Profile picture of the author sdwyermc
    It is still possible to get great .com's. A "friend" scored some great ones a little while ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    aww anything is possible. Its just the beginning. Just a little tweak to the setting of your sail and you should be set in the right direction. You'll get there.
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  • Profile picture of the author akasher
    No boat is ever missed. Opportunities are ABUNDANT.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    The domain registrars are thinking like hallmark cards. create a holiday every day to sell a card. Create more extensions to sell more add-ons to every domain buyer.

    question is: how much organic search is there for a particular .com, and then, if you are doing all your lead gen to direct someone anyway, how many times are they going to type in .com vs. .net etc....
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You're in good shape. Don't worry about the .gurus. I'm sure you can find something else to promote/sell domain wise that will make you profitable.
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    • Profile picture of the author smjconet
      Trying to flip unproven extensions and sitting on all that inventory is like stepping over dollars to pickup dimes. There are lots of easier and much more profitable ways to make money from the internet, then carrying a large inventory of domains, that may or may not ever be worth anything. The carrying costs and ROI are completely inverted.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    They add bots made of ubot, some of my friends to buy those in large quanities, people were all over it. I think your right I thinking flipping would of got some money but I'm just too partial to .com to give her up for any others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben2004
    Hi buddy

    Many experts believe that focusing on the domain flipping business is now a waste of time, that this business bottomed out years ago i dabbled a bit and i agree (although i didn't really try that hard)

    Here is a small suggestion maybe you can focus on some of the newer but popular extensions and try and focus on market domination in that area, before thay too get too popular like .we??

    do keyword search for the most popular 3 syllable words or popular short phrases

    Just a suggestion

    Ben
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben2004
    Originally Posted by trustedmarketer View Post

    I missed the great premium dot com domains and now dot guru. I wanted to focus on flipping these gurus.

    Majority of the premium dot guru domains have been taken. I must have spent 2 good hours looking for quality domains without much success. Can you good folks recommend a good strategy for getting quality ones or have I missed the dam boat again?
    Hi buddy

    Many experts believe that focusing on the domain flipping business is now a waste of time, that this business bottomed out years ago i dabbled a bit and i agree (although i didn't really try that hard)

    Here is a small suggestion maybe you can focus on some of the newer but popular extensions and try and focus on market domination in that area, before thay too get too popular like .ws, .me etc??

    do keyword search for the most popular 3 syllable words or popular short phrases

    Just a suggestion

    Ben
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Ben2004 View Post

      Hi buddy

      Many experts believe that focusing on the domain flipping business is now a waste of time, that this business bottomed out years ago i dabbled a bit and i agree (although i didn't really try that hard)
      That you didn't try that had is the key to that .... Which experts believe that the domain industry is shot?

      I know plenty of domain experts making a great living selling domains.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ben2004
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        That you didn't try that had is the key to that .... Which experts believe that the domain industry is shot?

        I know plenty of domain experts making a great living selling domains.
        Well if you know people or if you have managed to make a success of this business kudos ; its just that it makes logical sense this business has been around for a long time (in world wide web times anyway), so a lot of the best domains have been snapped up.

        when i took part in the domain biz on trading stocks and currencies at the time and I just wanted another hedge strategy so that if the market went against me i would still have something to fall back on

        by the way experts like multi millionaire online entrepreneur Stone Evans (the home biz guy) and the like.
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by Ben2004 View Post

          Well if you know people or if you have managed to make a success of this business kudos ; its just that it makes logical sense this business has been around for a long time (in world wide web times anyway), so a lot of the best domains have been snapped up.

          when i took part in the domain biz on trading stocks and currencies at the time and I just wanted another hedge strategy so that if the market went against me i would still have something to fall back on

          by the way experts like multi millionaire online entrepreneur Stone Evans (the home biz guy) and the like.
          ... and Stone Evans is who? Never heard his name mentioned in domaining circles. Gene Pimentel on WF makes a great living purely on domains and takes way too many vacations ...

          Then there's the DNJournal published weekly that reports all the big domain sales and it never has to look to hard to fill up it's pages.

          100.com Changes Hands for $950,000 in the Highest Domain Sale Reported So Far This Year
          100.com Changes Hands for $950,000 in the Highest Domain Sale Reported So Far This Year
          ... and here's the recent story of how Michael Castello (one of the first true domain name visionaries) unloaded Whisky.com for $3.1M when his first offer refused it at $1K.

          The Amazing Ascent of Whisky.com: How Michael Castello Turned a Free Domain Into a $3.1 Million Sale

          EDIT: If you're thinking about serious domaining as selling domains for the make money online crowd, that's not serious domaining. You won't find domains like:
          superninjaprofits.com
          seriousmoola4you.com
          etc, etc etc

          The make money online space is not who is buying domains for big bucks. If you study the names sold and listed on DNJournal, you can see the types of domains that are sold for big money.

          100.com was purchased by a public company, YY Inc. (traded on the NASDAQ), who has launched a Chinese language online education site on the domain. YY Chairman Mr. Jun Lei (who some have called the Steve Jobs of China) announced the purchase in a news conference today. Our friend, George Hong of Guta.com, who is fluent in Chinese, saw the announcement and relayed the information to us. Mr. Lei, who is also the Founder, Chairman and CEO of another red hot Chinese company, Xiamoi, said YY plans to spend 1 billion CNY ($163 million) building out 100.com over the next 2-3 years.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ben2004
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        That you didn't try that had is the key to that .... Which experts believe that the domain industry is shot?

        I know plenty of domain experts making a great living selling domains.
        I appreciate that you know many experts who are making money from this business but they are experts i am no longer convinced that the domain business is still an every mans game...tell me what you think

        I also agree with fellow members that most regular folks only know .com and .net which can some times seem like an exclusive club of experts chasing the same prizes in a saturated market...but i am sure you may disagree with me?
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by Ben2004 View Post

          I appreciate that you know many experts who are making money from this business but they are experts i am no longer convinced that the domain business is still an every mans game...tell me what you think

          I also agree with fellow members that most regular folks only know .com and .net which can some times seem like an exclusive club of experts chasing the same prizes in a saturated market...but i am sure you may disagree with me?
          It never was an every man's game. I see many warriors (newbie) who immediately, without any research, register a bunch of domain names, mostly domain names that they think WF IMers would like, and then try to dump them for more money than they spent. They normally get burned and have to let them expire.

          Not only do you need to research the domains before you buy them and the potential market for them, you need a good approach to your target market to sell them. Just listing them on sites like Sedo, Afternic and Flippa is a very slow and passive way to sell domains and can take a long time.

          I probably registered about 200 junk domains before I got the inkling that I was doing it all wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    I've been getting into domain flipping lately.

    Really only .com and .net domains have $$$$$ value. There are some nice .info and .biz domains around, but unless you pick nice, one word domains then they're effectively worthless.
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  • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
    Honestly, .guru is a douchy TLD.
    Same for anyone that refers to themselves as a guru, rockstar, ninja, assassin, etc.
    Are you compensating for something?
    Talk about nerds who have been playing far too many video games!
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