Site Flippers... check out what Sitepoint just sent to me!

Droopy Dawg · 06-09-2009, 11:15 PM

I just got an email from Sitepoint... and I'm sure all of you that has an account with SP you've more than likely gotten the same email.

Anyone that wants to buy/sell websites can visit flippa dot com

I'm no affiliate of them in now way, but I'm merely passing along info. Sitepoint says that your SP login will work here as well.

Looks like it costs 20 bucks to list your site ($10 more than SP), but its another avenue to buy/sell your sites.

Enjoy

DeShon

Andy Hart · 06-10-2009, 01:49 AM

Looks good, its still in BETA but looks pretty damn good to me.

JustinBrooke · 06-10-2009, 02:10 AM

They're also taking 5% of every sale which is really
smart of them. However, they've really made it easy
for someone else to come in and create a better
offer now.

We'll see what happens!

Desmond Ong · 06-10-2009, 02:55 AM

I don't like the new designs. It seems like the front page only features the 'Featured Listings' which I assumed we have to pay more to be on the front page.

ladysuccesstips · 06-10-2009, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmond Ong

I don't like the new designs. It seems like the front page only features the 'Featured Listings' which I assumed we have to pay more to be on the front page.

Well, absolutely just like on Twitter suggested Twitter members to follow when we first signed up. I've heard it cost millions already to be on the list.

Allegro · 06-10-2009, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Listing Upgrades
These upgrades affect how your listing will appear on the front page and in the buy section:
Listing Featured on the Front Page
Cost: $40
Your listing will be featured on the front page of Flippa for a limited period

Listing Row Highlighted
Cost: $19
Your listing will appear highlighted as orange in the natural listings on the front page and the category page.

Listing Link in Bold
Cost: $5
Links to your listing from the front page or category pages will appear in bold to make them stand out and get you more traffic!

Privacy Upgrade
Hide from search engines and non-logged in users
Cost: $19
Your listing will not be included in search engine results. This will decrease the exposure of your listing but increase the privacy.

Also, you can either have a normal auction like SP already offers, and a "private auction" that lasts 6 months (can be ended early manually) but has no BIN and no reserve.

Diana Lane · 06-10-2009, 03:50 AM

I don't like the idea of paying a premium to be on the front page either - I think the increase in SitePoint's cut will be more than enough already. However, since you have to scroll half a mile down the front page to be able to see any listings at all, I think most people will just click the ludicrously large 'buy a website' button, and land on a page where they all seem to be flung in together anyway.

What I don't like most about the listing fee increase is that I might be more inclined to feel it justified if both SitePoint and any prospective buyers were to take my offering seriously. Which isn't likely. What kind of person looks to buy a website for anything less than bargain basement prices from a site with a godawful name like 'flippa'?! The name screams at me 'Make money quickly selling junk and line our pockets while you're at it, or make money buying our cut-price junk (while lining our pockets

) and then improving on it'.

On the plus side, the layout of the actual listings doesn't seem too bad, and the 'Just Sold' tab could be useful.

Given the increase in listing fees though, not to mention unsolds and relisting, I think most people who list with any volume and have more than half a clue what they're doing would be better off spending their money promoting their own site from which they sell websites.

That name has got to be the worst thing about it though. Floppa might prove to be more accurate. I can't imagine what they were thinking.

TheRealDomainer · 06-10-2009, 05:52 AM

Just got the email too.
Its beta

googleninja · 06-10-2009, 05:59 AM

I was pinged by someone as well about it... Personally I don't really like that much but let's see how it would fair...

sbucciarel · 06-10-2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmond Ong

I don't like the new designs. It seems like the front page only features the 'Featured Listings' which I assumed we have to pay more to be on the front page.

I'm with you ... I hate the Twittery, Web 2.0 look. I also don't care for the price increase plus taking the 5% success fee on top of a price increase. I won't be using their upgrades any longer, except bold for $5 ... they've jacked up the Orange highlighted row from $5 to $19.

I'll be keeping my eyes open for some smart developer who wants to capitalize on the people who think the pricing is too high and builds another site to scoop up those customers.

LegitIncomes · 06-10-2009, 10:16 AM

Well, it looks like this is going to replace the sitepoint marketplace at some time, from this quote on flippa

Quote:

"Previously SitePoint Marketplace,
as seen in..."

I don't like it at all.

1. Stupid name.

2. The listing fees are okay...but 5% of the sales price??
That's going to cost me several hundred dollars a month.

3. I like the design, and the "just sold" and "ending soon" tabs....but those tabs alone are not worth the price increase. You can already see ending soon and those that have sold in the current marketplace.

4. Private sales as an alternative - who cares, you could already do this if the winning bidder chose to remain nameless....so nothing to see here.

5. Site & Phone verification - did this already, and you can already weed out bidders who don't verify their phone...so again, nothing to see here.

6. View counters on listings - who cares

Kurt · 06-10-2009, 10:28 AM

Looks like it may be a good time for Allen to start a new "flipper" forum here at the Warriors.

sbucciarel · 06-10-2009, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt

Looks like it may be a good time for Allen to start a new "flipper" forum here at the Warriors.

I'd be willing to guess he could skim off some of the disgruntled customers from Sitepoint if he did that.

Diana Lane · 06-10-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt

Looks like it may be a good time for Allen to start a new "flipper" forum here at the Warriors.

At least if Allen started one we could trust him to call it something sensible with a bit of a kick behind it

yommys01 · 06-10-2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt

Looks like it may be a good time for Allen to start a new "flipper" forum here at the Warriors.

I agree with you, I think Allen should start his own site flipping market place since sitepoint has decided to "self destroy".

Biggy Fat · 06-10-2009, 04:51 PM

Being a hip hop musician, I can tell you that the name IS definitely an African American type word. I do like it, but that's because I'm black haha. I can name another certain word that has an "a" instead of an "er". PM me to find out.

But I HATE that they take a cut now. The marketplace has already become eBay's marketplace, and now with these cuts it will suck.

AtomicFlipper · 06-10-2009, 05:00 PM

Just another one to add to the 20+ already on my list.

sbucciarel · 06-10-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggy Fat

Being a hip hop musician, I can tell you that the name IS definitely an African American type word. I do like it, but that's because I'm black haha. I can name another certain word that has an "a" instead of an "er". PM me to find out.

But I HATE that they take a cut now. The marketplace has already become eBay's marketplace, and now with these cuts it will suck,

I hear ya brutha ...

sbucciarel · 06-14-2009, 08:51 PM

Has anyone else been reading all the comments to their announcement on their blog? The sellers are not happy campers.

SitePoint Development Blog Flippa.com - The new way to Buy and Sell

MrCruzin · 06-14-2009, 08:58 PM

I never really sold any of my sites. I am sure I could but the domain game just sucks. All the sites to me have so much garbage. Getting to the good ones is almost luck. Not to mention some people selling nothing for thousands of dollars.

In all actuality this might help improve that. People are not going to list garbage and lose all sorts of money on the dang things.

We will see though.

Floyd Bogart · 06-14-2009, 09:03 PM

Thanks for sharing this, as I didn't get the email...

sbucciarel · 06-14-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCruzin

I never really sold any of my sites. I am sure I could but the domain game just sucks. All the sites to me have so much garbage. Getting to the good ones is almost luck. Not to mention some people selling nothing for thousands of dollars.

In all actuality this might help improve that. People are not going to list garbage and lose all sorts of money on the dang things.

We will see though.

I've sold many sites through them. It's not likely to stop the "garbage sites". There will only be a $3 increase in price if the site does not sell. There's a 5% "success" fee if the site sells that the sellers don't like very much, as well as they don't like the new lame design and even lamer domain name ... lol.

But you will see the usual dodgy suspects still trying to pawn off the garbage on newbies who don't know how to exercise due diligence.

patricialin · 06-15-2009, 05:52 AM

Thanks for sharing this.. well, we'll just have to wait and see if it will pull off successfully..

Steve Diamond · 06-15-2009, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladysuccesstips

Well, absolutely just like on Twitter suggested Twitter members to follow when we first signed up. I've heard it cost millions already to be on the list.

AFAIK this is merely a rumor. Someone did offer Twitter six figures to be on the list, but the offer wasn't accepted.

sbucciarel · 06-16-2009, 09:26 AM

Flippa appears to be flipping on new success fee.
SitePoint Development Blog Changes to Flippa Fee Structure

mikey1090 · 06-16-2009, 01:00 PM

For a small site - say a $100 blog, we'd have the listing fee to cover, the 5% fee then the 4% or so paypal fees.

So how much do we have left from the $100 sale? Not much.

sbucciarel · 06-16-2009, 01:04 PM

Yeah ... and doing what they say that we can now do ... make the buyer pay the success fee ... will only irritate buyers.

Diana Lane · 06-16-2009, 01:42 PM

Whatever the changes to the fee structure and whoever ends up paying them, it does not alter the name of the site, which still stinks like a ten-week dead rotting cod and will devalue everything listed there. According to their latest blog post though, this view itself is worth less to them, as it comes as public protest instead of private praise, and those protesting in public are apparently just causing others to do the same. Quite how they think that implying their users are sheep will sway opinion, I'm not sure.

SitePoint have put some good stuff out in the past, and this is nothing like it.

sbucciarel · 06-16-2009, 03:52 PM

I agree. I instantly hated the design and the domain name and that was before I read about the price increase. I think they will lose on this one.

Kate Anderson · 06-16-2009, 07:57 PM

I personally think this is a huge mistake for SP.. The fees are terrible, and the overall structure leaves a lot to be desired. When I was invited to beta test it a few months back, I cringed at the layout, the potential price structure.. all of it just reeks.

/end rant.. and I call myself an optimist, haha...

06-09-2009, 11:15 PM	#1
Droopy Dawg Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 926 Thanks: 67 Thanked 139 Times in 103 Posts	Site Flippers... check out what Sitepoint just sent to me! I just got an email from Sitepoint... and I'm sure all of you that has an account with SP you've more than likely gotten the same email. Anyone that wants to buy/sell websites can visit flippa dot com I'm no affiliate of them in now way, but I'm merely passing along info. Sitepoint says that your SP login will work here as well. Looks like it costs 20 bucks to list your site ($10 more than SP), but its another avenue to buy/sell your sites. Enjoy DeShon

06-10-2009, 01:49 AM	#2
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06-10-2009, 03:50 AM	#7
Diana Lane The Beer Hunter War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 1,220 Thanks: 186 Thanked 408 Times in 224 Posts	Re: Site Flippers... check out what Sitepoint just sent to me! I don't like the idea of paying a premium to be on the front page either - I think the increase in SitePoint's cut will be more than enough already. However, since you have to scroll half a mile down the front page to be able to see any listings at all, I think most people will just click the ludicrously large 'buy a website' button, and land on a page where they all seem to be flung in together anyway. What I don't like most about the listing fee increase is that I might be more inclined to feel it justified if both SitePoint and any prospective buyers were to take my offering seriously. Which isn't likely. What kind of person looks to buy a website for anything less than bargain basement prices from a site with a godawful name like 'flippa'?! The name screams at me 'Make money quickly selling junk and line our pockets while you're at it, or make money buying our cut-price junk (while lining our pockets ) and then improving on it'. On the plus side, the layout of the actual listings doesn't seem too bad, and the 'Just Sold' tab could be useful. Given the increase in listing fees though, not to mention unsolds and relisting, I think most people who list with any volume and have more than half a clue what they're doing would be better off spending their money promoting their own site from which they sell websites. That name has got to be the worst thing about it though. Floppa might prove to be more accurate. I can't imagine what they were thinking.

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mikey1090 Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 31 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Contact Info	Re: Site Flippers... check out what Sitepoint just sent to me! For a small site - say a $100 blog, we'd have the listing fee to cover, the 5% fee then the 4% or so paypal fees. So how much do we have left from the $100 sale? Not much.

06-16-2009, 01:04 PM	#27
sbucciarel Suzanne War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia, USA. Posts: 10,681 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,215 Thanked 4,068 Times in 2,275 Posts	Re: Site Flippers... check out what Sitepoint just sent to me! Yeah ... and doing what they say that we can now do ... make the buyer pay the success fee ... will only irritate buyers.
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06-16-2009, 01:42 PM	#28
Diana Lane The Beer Hunter War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 1,220 Thanks: 186 Thanked 408 Times in 224 Posts	Re: Site Flippers... check out what Sitepoint just sent to me! Whatever the changes to the fee structure and whoever ends up paying them, it does not alter the name of the site, which still stinks like a ten-week dead rotting cod and will devalue everything listed there. According to their latest blog post though, this view itself is worth less to them, as it comes as public protest instead of private praise, and those protesting in public are apparently just causing others to do the same. Quite how they think that implying their users are sheep will sway opinion, I'm not sure. SitePoint have put some good stuff out in the past, and this is nothing like it.

06-16-2009, 03:52 PM	#29
sbucciarel Suzanne War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia, USA. Posts: 10,681 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,215 Thanked 4,068 Times in 2,275 Posts	Re: Site Flippers... check out what Sitepoint just sent to me! I agree. I instantly hated the design and the domain name and that was before I read about the price increase. I think they will lose on this one.
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06-16-2009, 07:57 PM	#30
Kate Anderson Creative Specialist War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 743 Thanks: 86 Thanked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Site Flippers... check out what Sitepoint just sent to me! I personally think this is a huge mistake for SP.. The fees are terrible, and the overall structure leaves a lot to be desired. When I was invited to beta test it a few months back, I cringed at the layout, the potential price structure.. all of it just reeks. /end rant.. and I call myself an optimist, haha...