Squidoo & Hubpages using same content

[ajm5050]

Can I use the same contents for both squidoo and hubpages? (My articles) Or do I have to rewrite the articles to use them in multiple sites? Forget Google as I'm not concerned for their dup content slap, what I'm concerned for is getting canned by squidoo and hubpages. Hubpages clearly state in their TOS that your hub will go down if you use dup contents even if you have the right to copy and publish those works. If anyone has experience in this, I'd appreciate any input. Thank you.

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by ajm5050

Hubpages clearly state in their TOS that your hub will go down if you use dup contents even if you have the right to copy and publish those works.

There's your answer - doesn't matter what we say

[Elvin Tiong]

It is always better to rewrite the articles.
Although it takes time, but it is worth to do so.

[DeePower]

You won't even get the articles up at hubpages. They automatically check for dup content before you publish the page.

If you publish original content at hubpages first and then use it somewhere else they take down the hubpage.

I experimented with changing the sentence order, paragraph order, and rewriting perhaps 20% of the article to see if it made a difference. It didn't. This wasn't an attempt to scam the system it was just out of curiosity.

Dee

[ajm5050]

DeePower,
Thanks for sharing your insightful knowledge on the subject. It's a bit of a pain to rewrite articles and I just had to know if there were ways to save some time. By the way, how do you thank people? I'm new here and I see that there's a "thanks" stat counter on every profile. I would like to add to your thanks count.

[joan007]

Ajm,

Regarding the "Thanks Button", you need more posts before it will display. The same thing happened to me. After I had made approximately 10 or more posts to The Warrior Forum, the Thanks Button finally appeared automatically.

[Soflyy]

HubPages will auto-detect duplicate content when a Hub is first created, but I haven't seen any evidence that they run checks for duplicate content on an already existing Hub.

In fact, if they did, all someone would have to do to get a Hub taken down is steal the content and post it somewhere else.

Just post on Hub first and Squidoo second and you'll be fine.

[John Blaisdale]

If I were you I'd make either one your main "money page" and then do a quick rewrite for the other. For example, make your Squidoo lens the one you put more effort into and one you would like to drive traffic to, and the rewrite some of the content to be used as a HubPage.

[ajm5050]

First off, thanks everyone for the helpful comments.

Originally Posted by James Strong

Squidoo doesn't care but Hubpages won't let you. So I advise using the content first on your hub, then posting it on Squidoo.

I guess I would do it your way to use the same content, but if they do follow up on what they say, they may also do dup check on your hub every time something is added or even edited. I wonder if anyone's been canned for dup content by Hubpages after initially been accepted.

Originally Posted by joan007

Regarding the "Thanks Button", you need more posts before it will display. The same thing happened to me. After I had made approximately 10 or more posts to The Warrior Forum, the Thanks Button finally appeared automatically.

Thanks Joan, that clears things up.

Originally Posted by HBZsoftware.com

HubPages will auto-detect duplicate content when a Hub is first created, but I haven't seen any evidence that they run checks for duplicate content on an already existing Hub.

In fact, if they did, all someone would have to do to get a Hub taken down is steal the content and post it somewhere else.

All good points, but I don't think taking down someone's hub would be that easy even if it were possible. You would first need a domain that's been active longer than the particular hub and you should also be able to mask the article having been published before the calendar date that the hub was created. Hubpages will not penalize you for someone else stealing your content, in fact I don't think they'd have go to a long way to find out that the stolen article was published after the hub was created. I don't think it would too hard for Hubpages to nail one of their hub for dup content.

The more I learn, the more I think I'll have to rewrite my articles lol.

I remember Matt Cutts saying that it would be difficult for Google to implement some sort of article claim system because someone else could claim your article before it gets crawled. Maybe much of dup content penalty is a myth, even for Google, Hubpages, and Ezine.

[PrettyJenny]

Originally Posted by ajm5050

First off, thanks everyone for the helpful comments.



I guess I would do it your way to use the same content, but if they do follow up on what they say, they may also do dup check on your hub every time something is added or even edited. I wonder if anyone's been canned for dup content by Hubpages after initially been accepted.

Yes, I have tried that. And my content got flagged minutes after being published. Finally I had to rewrite almost 80% of the content so that my hub could be unflagged.

[ajm5050]

Originally Posted by Pretty Jenny

Yes, I have tried that. And my content got flagged minutes after being published. Finally I had to rewrite almost 80% of the content so that my hub could be unflagged.

Thanks Pretty Jenny, now that's some great info. Setting up Hubpages then copying the same content on to other web 2.0 medium looks like a bad idea. You may get lucky for a while, but then it looks like Hubpages catches up with you sooner or later.

[NewbiesDiary]

outsource rewriting your articles, posts etc on scriptlance - it's very cheap!

Originally Posted by ajm5050

DeePower,
Thanks for sharing your insightful knowledge on the subject. It's a bit of a pain to rewrite articles and I just had to know if there were ways to save some time. By the way, how do you thank people? I'm new here and I see that there's a "thanks" stat counter on every profile. I would like to add to your thanks count.

to add thanks - see at the bottom of every post - there are a few black buttons - click on the one that says "thanks"

[Ofthemix]

Originally Posted by DeePower

You won't even get the articles up at hubpages. They automatically check for dup content before you publish the page.

If you publish original content at hubpages first and then use it somewhere else they take down the hubpage.

I experimented with changing the sentence order, paragraph order, and rewriting perhaps 20% of the article to see if it made a difference. It didn't. This wasn't an attempt to scam the system it was just out of curiosity.

Dee

I rewrote 90% of an article and it still got flagged as duplicate content on Hubpages for being similar to other articles. I'm wondering if it's even worth bothering with them. I read your post about how to make $100 a day. I'd tried to deal with Hubpages before and had nothing buy problems with them. It seems the pattern continues. I hate dealing with sites like that.

[Stay At Home Mum]

Yes I have just had the same thing happen to me - duplicate content on Hubpages within seconds of publishing it. Usually I rewrite the article just for Hub - but got lazy this time and just submitted the same article.

I have not had any other problems with them as yet. Same with Squidoo - original content is best.

[schttrj]

Originally Posted by DeePower

You won't even get the articles up at hubpages. They automatically check for dup content before you publish the page.

If you publish original content at hubpages first and then use it somewhere else they take down the hubpage.

I experimented with changing the sentence order, paragraph order, and rewriting perhaps 20% of the article to see if it made a difference. It didn't. This wasn't an attempt to scam the system it was just out of curiosity.

Dee

Oops! They do take duplicate content, but they don't allow promotional links in them. May be not amazon, adsense or ebay.

[Lostgringo]

Find a good article writer and spin it. You can use that content all over the internet. Hubpage will flag your Hub for dub content.

[The_Idea_Gal]

Hubpages doesn't allow duplicate content, but you can always rewrite an article or take part of a rewritten article from your Squidoo Lens and use it on Hubpages.

[celente]

think this guy just answer his own question. hmmmm

[JBrooks]

yep hubpages check dups

[Always-A-Warrior]

You can spin, twist and turn any written article and place it on hubpages it will not work. It's best you write it in your own words with your own feelings in your own way.

And that guy who says to "take part of a rewritten article from your Squidoo Lens and use it on Hubpages" clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. Duplicate content is duplicate content no matter what you do to the article. Heck you can send it to the moon and back, and they'll still will not accept the article.

So my advice is to "Be Yourself and not Someone else". write your own stuff.

[rich8169]

Ajm5050: yes Hubpages check for duplicate content quite strictly, in fact I had a personal experience that I published the page in Hubpages first and gone well until I repost the similar content (with some touchup) at Squidoo, my Hubpages is now being unpublished due to duplicate content. So it doesn't matter where u post first, uniqueness is still the Key!

Hope it helps.

Cheers!

[AgentP]

Hubpages like their content to be unique. The easiest thing you could do is spin your original article.

[Halloweenaffiliates]

Hubpages is real firm on their content. They are stressing qaulity unique content anything less will cause you problems. And they now count the amount of time you use a widget compared to the written content, if you have too many ebay or amazon ads they will put it off line and have you correct it before they approve it, and that takes a while, because if the lens isn't qaulity, you probably won't have it approved again.

[Alexa Smith]

Things change. Strange conversation.

Just in case anyone's wondering what on earth this is/was all about, and hasn't checked out the dates, there was a gap of a year and half between post #14 and post #15.

[Wills]

Alexa, that is twice today I have been scratching my head over a thread, until you pointed out that it was an old thread. Cheers.

I must have one eye on the weekend already, for missing the dates.