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Hi
Where could I seek advice pn whether the particular subject i would like to pursue is sufficiently 'niche'? To be honest the exact nature of my product is as yet unclear to me but i think there will be ample opportunity to market goods related to this particular subject...once i have built up my emailing list. I have chosen this subject as it is of interest to me and think I could do a reasonable job of building a list.
Any help much appreciated. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Any help much appreciated.
    Help with what? You haven't given any details or asked any questions other than "is this niche enough?"
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Paul christopher View Post

    I have chosen this subject as it is of interest to me and think I could do a reasonable job of building a list.
    Well, those are certainly two good reasons for choosing something.

    Originally Posted by Paul christopher View Post

    Where could I seek advice pn whether the particular subject i would like to pursue is sufficiently 'niche'?
    "Without posting it openly on the board", I think you mean? Not so easily! It's not easy to solicit opinions about something without disclosing the "something"!

    Originally Posted by Paul christopher View Post

    To be honest the exact nature of my product is as yet unclear to me
    You're planning to produce your own product, then, rather than being an affiliate for existing products? Or is it that there aren't any existing products? (One would be concerned that there might be reasons for that, if so? But maybe this is why you're asking?).

    If it helps, you're welcome to mention it in a private message and if I know anything about it, or how to assess it, I'll reply the same way? :confused:

    It's easier if you post it on the board, because that way the people who do know something about it can "self-selectively reply" to you ... "just saying" ... (that's easy for me to say when I don't disclose my own niches to anyone ).
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    • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
      Welcome back, Alexa! The board will once again be nourished with your syndication wisdom. lol

      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Well, those are certainly two good reasons for choosing something.



      "Without posting it openly on the board", I think you mean? Not so easily! It's not easy to solicit opinions about something without disclosing the "something"!



      You're planning to produce your own product, then, rather than being an affiliate for existing products? Or is it that there aren't any existing products? (One would be concerned that there might be reasons for that, if so? But maybe this is why you're asking?).

      If it helps, you're welcome to mention it in a private message and if I know anything about it, or how to assess it, I'll reply the same way? :confused:

      It's easier if you post it on the board, because that way the people who do know something about it can "self-selectively reply" to you ... "just saying" ... (that's easy for me to say when I don't disclose my own niches to anyone ).
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  • Profile picture of the author Mithral
    You might want to see how many people are looking for a broad match for your subject to start. Use the Google Keyword tool to determine average monthly searches for your subject area. If there are few people looking for the general terms for your subject it is extremely unlikely that your narrower niche is financially worth pursuing.

    If the size of market is acceptable, then you could see what similar products are on affiliate marketplaces like Clickbank. This could help you determine how broad or narrow to make the coverage of your subject in your product. While there you could look at getting your product marketed by affiliates. That will accelerate your list building, when you capture the contact info of all the traffic they send to you.

    Just my 2 cents worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Katie Rich
    Originally Posted by Paul christopher View Post

    Hi
    Where could I seek advice pn whether the particular subject i would like to pursue is sufficiently 'niche'?

    No one can advise you when they don't have a clue what the subject is.

    To be honest the exact nature of my product is as yet unclear to me but i think there will be ample opportunity to market goods related to this particular subject...
    Hell, even you don't have a clue what the subject is.
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  • Profile picture of the author visit_faraz
    I am sure you could seek advice here.
    Go ahead and ask your question
    instead of asking us whether you should ask the question.

    Whew!!
    Kind of a tongue twister.
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    • Profile picture of the author KFW
      Let us know what that "something" is and I am sure we could give you plenty of help and advice.:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    Huh.....????
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    • Profile picture of the author Antoni Krolik
      Hi Paul

      Check Clickbank marketplace, are there any products being sold in your niche?
      Check Amazon for similar products?
      Check Ebay?

      If nobody is selling anything similar to whats in your niche idea. Then there probably isn't going to be enough customers for you.

      If you find a lot of competition, then that is a good signal. Competition is good, it lets you know there is a market for what you have to offer.

      Good luck, Antoni
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlosTorres
    Based on what you posted, I think you would like to know "how do you know that you're in a profitable niche or not", right? If that's the case, then you can do certain things. One, you can go to Amazon.com and see if there are books already around your subject matter. If there are and people are reviewing them, then you're in a good niche.

    Also, you can type in Google some search terms related to what your subject is about or what it solves and see if you get any Ads for those terms. If that's the case, then there are people out there that are paying for those ads, which means that there's a market for it.

    Hope this helps a bit!
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  • Profile picture of the author bobcath
    Paul

    Oxford Dictionary says: -

    A specialized but profitable segment of the market:

    So if it's specialized you will know, and some research will uncover if it's profitable. Doesn't need to be on-line alone, it could be that you research the value of what you are offering in general, i.e. off-line too.

    Bobby
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul christopher
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul christopher
        Hi everyone and thank you very much for all your comments!!!
        I didn't state the subject in my post because I wasn't sure whether the Forum rules permitted it...but now I know it's ok :-D
        I am an artist and am good at dawing (if I say so myself ))). I thought that I could send out weekly 'newsletters' with drawings from my many sketchbooks with some tips, and build up a list of followers in that way. As for the product I could eventually be selling, I'm not sure about that. Maybe this could be a means of affiliate marketing...to art products for example..?
        Thanks again for all your help!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul christopher
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          Should read "drawing"
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul christopher
            Can you draw caricatures? There would be a market for those via here or Fiverr or both. For a related affiliate product take a look at Clickbank. You could also add Amazon associate links to art related products.
            I'm not that good at drawing caricatures...more drawing from observation...
            Thanks for the advice! I'll look at Clickbank...
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        • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
          Originally Posted by Paul christopher View Post

          Hi everyone and thank you very much for all your comments!!!
          I didn't state the subject in my post because I wasn't sure whether the Forum rules permitted it...but now I know it's ok :-D
          I am an artist and am good at dawing (if I say so myself ))). I thought that I could send out weekly 'newsletters' with drawings from my many sketchbooks with some tips, and build up a list of followers in that way. As for the product I could eventually be selling, I'm not sure about that. Maybe this could be a means of affiliate marketing...to art products for example..?
          Thanks again for all your help!!!
          Don't put the cart before the horse.

          One of the biggest mistakes I see people make is they don't identify their target buyer first.

          Your skillset is drawing and that's great, but you want to first figure out how you are going to monetize that skillset.

          What problem are you solving?

          What need are you fulfilling?

          What market, niche or micro-niche or highly specialized niche are you targeting?

          Is that niche large enough to sustain a business?

          I wouldn't even begin building a list until I could answer those questions.

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        • Profile picture of the author Jeffery Moss
          Originally Posted by Paul christopher View Post

          Hi everyone and thank you very much for all your comments!!!
          I didn't state the subject in my post because I wasn't sure whether the Forum rules permitted it...but now I know it's ok :-D
          I am an artist and am good at dawing (if I say so myself ))). I thought that I could send out weekly 'newsletters' with drawings from my many sketchbooks with some tips, and build up a list of followers in that way. As for the product I could eventually be selling, I'm not sure about that. Maybe this could be a means of affiliate marketing...to art products for example..?
          Thanks again for all your help!!!
          Would you be trying to find customers to buy your drawings or looking to sell a product that teaches others how to draw? If you want actual customers then go for art fans, rather than artists who want new techniques. I'm not sure if artists looking for tips would be the right target for your emails unless you are going to sell them a product eventually related to learning to paint/draw or market paintings, etc or something else related to the business side of art.
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul christopher
            Hi
            Thanks for your advice. I think what I am aiming at is building up a following of other artists and enthusiasts who would like tips and examples for inspiration, rather than taking commissions. I tend to work too slowly to make a living from selling individual pieces...I have tried
            I have a lot of stuff I could put in 'newsletters' or a blog/fb page
            . In parallel I could work on putting together an ebook or maybe a real book for sale on Amazon. I have looked at Amazon and Clickbank and these sort of books sell pretty well. I think it may take me quite a while to put all my stuff together...what might be some of the best ways to get my fb page/ blog/'newsletter' seen by as many people as possible? Thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author Katie Rich
    That helps, knowing what you are doing.

    Can you draw caricatures? There would be a market for those via here or Fiverr or both. For a related affiliate product take a look at Clickbank. You could also add Amazon associate links to art related products.

    Good luck, it sounds great.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
      Although your train of thought at the moment is finding a product niche with your drawing talent. But your immediate focus should be offering a "service niche" in my opinion.

      There's a lot of places you can go with your drawing talent. With my definition of a niche (or need) which is ... an unmet, under-served, or overlooked need of a specific group of people.

      If you need more specifics P.M me.

      P.S, One of the fastest growing markets now is humor drawings (think low hanging fruit start).

      Good Luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author visit_faraz
    I think building a following is a good idea.
    I have seen a few drawing pages on facebook.
    The drawings are very good and there are people who would love to draw like that.
    They are raving fans.

    Maybe could do a similar thing.
    Build a facebook page.
    Keep posting your drawings frequently
    and build a fan base.
    Keep interacting with them
    and they'll tell you whether they want to learn drawing from you
    or want you to draw for them for a payment.

    There are a lot of options once you build a fan base.
    You could even sell other drawing products on clickbank.
    I have seen other dvds too which teach drawing
    and people are big fans of those dvds.
    Maybe you could be an affiliate for those and sell them?

    I am just throwing around some ideas.
    Just brainstorm and write down a few things you could do
    but first build a fan base.
    Build a list of your fans.

    The key is to stay in touch with your fans and interact with them.
    find out what they want and provide it to them.

    my 2 cents,
    Faraz
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