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| Christmas Rocker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole
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Dear spammers, scammers and trolls. As a public service to the morally disadvantaged, I am giving you a template for your fly-by-night forum sting. STEP 1 Write a headline with "How I Made X Money In X Days!" Make sure the amount is high enough to get people's greed receptors going, but not so high that it's an obvious scam. The amount should also be an odd number with dollars and cents so it seems more realistic. The time period should also be short to cater for lazy victims (sorry, customers) with goldfish attention spans. For claims of $1,000 - $3,000 it's OK to use 48 hours. For more than $3,000 you should use a much longer time period, say, 3 or 4 days. 5 days or more makes it sound too much like a job and nobody will buy. Use an exclamation mark to emphasize how amazing your feat is! STEP 2 Paste a photoshopped screen shot of your Paypal/Clickbank account HERE If you are doctoring a Clickbank cheque make sure there is enough time between the date of the earnings and today's date for a real cheque to have actually arrived via post. Most people know that cheques don't come overnight by email. STEP 3 Actually, chronologically, this should be Step 1. Using a proxy/dynamic ISP create a few acounts at the Warrior Forum a couple of months before you intend to fleece (sorry, help) people. Keep your nose clean. Make a few nice posts. Thank a few people. Once you post your thread use these 'shill' accounts to praise you to high heaven and, more importantly, to attack any busybodies who have the sheer cheek to suggest you are doing something wrong. STEP 4 If the thread survives the first 10 posts, add a link to your WSO. STEP 5 Keep your WSO link until you get attacked by at least two Forum heavyweights. Then remove it and retire from the thread. If you try to defend yourself it gives people more rope to hang you. STEP 6 Focus on the WSO. Use the Thanks button for everybody who posts and post saying thank you as well. You've got to get to the all-important 50 posts to add a second page. 2 pages = more social proof. If anybody attacks you in your WSO thread try to sound reasonable. You have 3 lines of defence. 1. Accuse them of trying to ruin your WSO and threaten to report them to Admin. 2. Shrug it off. "This guy is a well-known troll. What can a poor, simple guy like me do?" 3. Throw dirt. "This guy is actually a famous Russian hacker. Give me 24 hours (to rake in more money) and I'll prove it to you." STEP 7 This is your ace in the hole and you really don't want to use it unless you have to. It's your treasured IM guru account. A year ago you actually created a really good WSO and made lots of useful posts. You even built a list and sent them decent info ("Hmm, I actually made a lot of money from this. Maybe I should do it more often"). This is the account you use to come in and tell everybody "Hey, you know me. Honest Joe Marketer. I bought this WSO and it's fantastic. Deal of the century." If you use Step 7 you might be able to salvage Honest Joe Marketer. When the scam is discovered you can join in the hue and cry and say how much money you got taken for. STEP 8 Rinse and repeat with different usernames. Martin |
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| there is no spoon War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wigtown, Newton Stewart, Scotland.
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Thanks Martin You're truly a generous guy - most people would've packaged this up and sold it for $197 but here you are giving it to the world for free. I'm choking up here with your display of philanthropy. Peter |
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| Christmas Rocker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole
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You just ruined my next WSO! ![]() STEP 9 - rehash old information Martin | |
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| Mentat War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ,PA , USA.
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Thanks Martin, I was looking for a comprehensive business plan to follow. You should have sold this as a WSO. As an upsell, would you be willing to go back in time a few months and create some shill accounts for me? That would be worth 7 dollars easily. Regards, Kevin |
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Florida
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Funny...I was coming in to report you. ![]() A lot of people don't understand this is happening. There a lot of newbs that will read the posts, and visit the WSO and buy...without ever registering at the forum. So thanks, Martin, for exposing this scam. |
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| Christmas Rocker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole
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Peter, It's not free. There is going to be a CPA link added to my sig file any minute. Quote:
That would be too much hard work. I think the easiest thing to do would be to get a hack into this site. Internet Archive Wayback Machine I think I'd have to charge more than 7 dollars, though. Martin | |
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| (not my real name) War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009
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Oh, I feel so foolish. Now I know what happened to me. Until now I just thought WSO's were over-hyped garbage of low value. (Step by step plan to make $9000 this month). They are consistently over-hyped old rehashed information, and so basic that only newbies would benefit. Last month decided I never to buy hyped WSOs. They are so obviously BS, just read the title. If it sounds too good to be true... |
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So, you want to sell me another way to easily make "X" dollars in "X" days? ROFL too funny! IM success requires hard work and lots of time. Most newbies do not survive the steep learning curve. Anyone who says otherwise is probably selling you a fantasy.
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| The Old Geezer War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: , , USA.
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Martin, Your status as a true info guru marketeer has been taken into the stratosphere, with this one mind boggling post. And frankly I'm quite that you revealed all my secrets to every unsuspecting Tom, Dick and Harry and don't forget the Annies, Sally, Molly and Tina ![]() ![]() Your attention to detail speaks of much experience in using this corrupted business plan, to fleece the suckers err warriors. However, I think Tina could have at least waited a little bit to call you on the carpet for old rehashed content as quickly as she did. Hmm! does this mean we can report her for personal attacking such a grand marketing fleece plan? Your new student, Ken The Old Geezer |
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH , USA.
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What we really need to do is create a mastermind group here, and launch a membership site on exactly how to do this - we could also create an entire series of webinars, and get all of the "REAL GURUS" to send out 35 emails a day to their lists to launch it.....;-) oh wait...I think that's been done already too......... LOL - I think my cynicism is showing this am......maybe I need more coffee.......... Melody |
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| Christmas Rocker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole
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It's your own fault. You should have got me to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement at the Old Geezers Trash Google™ Seminar. Martin | |
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| The Old Geezer War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: , , USA.
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OMG ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ROTFLMBO.The Old Geezer |
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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA
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All good, highly relative points here and detailed cynicism does have its place. However we should be aware that to much can some times distort our attitudes and cause us hard. And basically we know that we are not going to change some human beings. So sort it out - dump the xxxx and steady goes the course. Dick Morrison |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bradford, UK
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Fantastic guide. One I'm going to use and 'take action' with!
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| Unplugged War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK.
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Great Post! I wondered where my money was from all those courses that require you to "take action" on outdated methods! How much is your one? I have my credit card out ready to buy!
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| there is no spoon War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wigtown, Newton Stewart, Scotland.
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Martin Another one to add Step 10 - Compose a notepad document with prewritten copy that will become a new post querying why the thread got nuked. Act all innocent and hurt and explain that you were only trying to help. Get your 'shill' accounts to once again back you with cries of 'newbie attack', 'unfair' and 'elitism'. I hope this addition will earn me a couple of Penny Blacks or maybe a handful of Penny Reds. Cheers Peter |
| Last edited by Peter Bestel; 06-16-2009 at 12:10 PM. Reason: For not noticing the difference between 'edition' and 'addition'. Doh! | |
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| Banned War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA
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You stole my secret system!!!
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| You R GREAT if you are A War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Shakey/Sunny CA, USA.
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Martin, I opened your thread with my Credit Card in hand. Where the heck is your BuyNow Button. George Wright |
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| Purpose Driven Business War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada
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Awesome info. I'll record a video and sell a WSO for this. |
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH , USA.
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His PayPal account was shut down because it was hacked by Nigerian scammers, but I am sure he has made arrangements to use someone else's account, so you will be able to buy soon. And don't worry if it takes 2 weeks to deliver cuz that isn't his fault either!! | |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009
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Thank for sharing your little secret!
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| iNinja War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Kerala, India.
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Hehe the 3rd point the 6th step.. LOL , I almost fell from the chair! This is truly an inspirational post for all those scammers :P . I don't really like hype and I don't hype over my products. G'day, Akky |
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| You R GREAT if you are A War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Shakey/Sunny CA, USA.
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George you only asked for the buy now button, you didn't specify it had to be live |
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| Content & Copywriting Wiz War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Roselle, NJ, USA
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Martin, I mean this in all seriousness. You should have been a comedy writer. Your wit is absolutely killer. I thoroughly enjoyed reading that bit of satire. Is it possible you missed you true calling? Anyway, thanks for my laugh of the day. But please consider what I said. I think you'd be very successful at it. |
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The levels of emotional intelligence going on this thread are amazing ![]() If everyone were like this, nobody would be scammed. Ever! Tyrus |
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| Banned War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Up North, USA
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Well, I was just getting my diatribe out when I saw what this really was about. I bet there are several users out there creating "guru" accounts now ![]() TomG. PS - Thanks added for the post! |
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| We Do Service Right War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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| Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US of A
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What's the point in being an unethical scammer? That's certainly no way to run a business. Pretty pointless. Is this the society one wants to create for the Internet? One where people get scammed and it scares them away from ever venturing back to the world of online purchases? This is EXACTLY why people are becoming even more brand conscious and why it makes it even harder for the little guy to develop a presence. Why buy from Joe's Bookstore who is new when I know EXACTLY what to expect from Barnes and Noble? Scams are lame attempts to make money by people who have no real talent. |
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sontag, MS
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Thanks, for the Info. I will have to try it out! Do that work for ad also?
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, USA.
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LOOOVE it! What's the point in being an unethical scammer? Unfortunately, it can be somewhat profitable in the short term until the scammers are found out...run off the forum...and come back with a new identity to rinse and repeat. |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan. Go State!
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I LOVE this forum. LOL Thanks for the chuckle. |
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| Christmas Rocker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole
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And now I'm going to have to start a rant thread as well. As per Step 6, I was trying to thank everybody in the thread and my Thanks button stopped working. What kind of democracy is this forum when you can't say thank you willy nilly to everyone? It's getting like the Oscars where you only have time to thank your mum, dad and your analyst before they cut your speech short. Martin |
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| Dare To Be Different War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: U.K.
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008
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A lot of people get sucked into buy WSO's by reviews of other warriors . I really hate the following 2 lines in a review and I run a mile when I see them. OP, you have really outdone yourself this time and OP, have you lost your mind, you should be charging 10 times the amount for this sort of information. |
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, USA.
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| Where's my press release INFO??? Unless you want me to just wing it...you know, make something up....wait, my evil imagination is kicking into overdrive now, muah hah hah hah... But seriously, send me an email telling me what you want to announce. Okay, so we can at least pretend this is post on topic...er....great thread, Martin! Even though I feel bitter and gypped that I'm not going to learn how to make $10,735.22 in 3 days. I am not SAYING that I read the thread title and dashed out and bought $10,735.22 worth of Coach and Burberry purses in anticipation of earning the money back in 3 days, before I actually opened and read the thread... I'm just saying... |
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ, USA.
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Has everyone already forgotten Buy My Stupid Ebook, Overly SEO d Title, Keywords Crammed like Make Money Online Make Money Online Make Money Online? I've seen it a hundred times and I still roll on the floor every time. But then, my wife tells me I'm easily amused. ![]() Quote:
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| Marxist (Groucho) War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle, WA, USA.
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| *yawn* Call me when you've figured out how to make $23,429.93 in 1 1/2 days... THEN I'll pay attention.
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| Christmas Rocker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole
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| Tom, Stop spoiling my WSO! Oops, bit early. Haven't reached Step 6 Part 1 yet. Dana, Here's your press release headline Quote:
Roger, I'm still looking for a raspberry emoticon. Ken, You don't understand the formula. For sums of $20,000+ you have to give a longer timescale. To earn $23,429.93 in 1 1/2 days you would have do at least 4 hours' work. Who would want to work that much for such a pittance? Martin | |
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London, England
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My goodness, what a thought. Nice one, Martin ![]() Steve | |
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| Mal Lambe War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Bunker, Paris
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Martin, mate I'm seriously thinking of running a WSO on how to dupe the Warrior Forum. So here's just a taste of what's to come in my "The Blackhatters Tea Party - a Guide to Scamming the WSO". Here's the line of javascript you can put in your browser to manipulate your Clickbank & PayPal earnings. Do You Really Believe Those Clickbank EarningsScreenshots? - Journal - Your Internets |
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: , , Norway.
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Come now, don't give them ideas, do you really want them to rinse and repeat? I know I've had enough already. |
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| Accidental Possum-Stirrer War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia
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This is the funniest thing I have ever read so far on this Forum. ![]() Thankyou Martin for the satire. There is a problem though - some readers of your laser-sharp wit may take you literally. Ah well, that's their problem though!! SolarFelineAU |
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