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HELP really fast please!!

by biitchcakes
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Okay, so if you bid on a long term job on Elance, how do you work out the payments? What should I ask for up front, say I got the job for 875...how would I break that up? HELP!

He is confusing me like crazy. Here is the last thing he said to me... I think he's trying to start up a team for a site, and wants me as a writer on that team... which lead him to say this:

and you will become one of Director‏
Yes anyways it's a great‏


if we do business for $1000 in start‏


then you will get $400‏


‎10‎:‎04‎ ‎PM If we do business for $10,000‏


then you will get simple $4000‏


It's all about numbers we are getting‏

But how would I know the numbers?


I feel like I am being marketed to lol

He is like See Christy, let me tell you a little about myself and why I know we will rock this...
#fast
  • Profile picture of the author Marx Vergel Melencio
    [EDIT]Since I posted the things below before you edited your OP to provide more details, then the things below may not apply to a commission-based payment structure, which you described in the things that you added to your OP...[/EDIT]

    OPTION ONE: Ask for a 50% advance payment, and the remaining 50% upon project completion and 3-day client review...

    OPTION TWO: Ask for a 50% advance payment, and the next 25% upon milestone completion, and the remaining 25% upon project completion and 3-day client review...

    OPTION THREE: Ask for a 25% advance payment, the next 25% upon milestone completion, the next 25% upon project completion and the remaining 25% upon 3-day client review...
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  • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
    Sounds like he's wanting you to become a director, and is offering you 40% of his business.

    Seems legit.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrgoe
      Originally Posted by Taniwha View Post

      Sounds like he's wanting you to become a director, and is offering you 40% of his business.

      Seems legit.
      That was hilarious )
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    If you can't understand his English now just imagine when you start working with him what it will be like.
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    Ok let me give you some real experience. I personally have done hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of work on Elance, vWorker (RAC), and other freelance sites.

    1) Never work for commission. If they dont have money to pay their workers they are not in a position to be starting a business anyway.
    2) Its against every freelance sites TOS, so report them (before they scam someone else)
    3) When taking a job I have never asked for an advance. I did require 100% escrow before starting, but thats it.

    If I where you I would RUN away from this guy.
    Hope that helps,
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I always ask for 100% to be paid into escrow before I do any work.
    If there is confusion and I can't clarify it before I start, I don't take the job.
    If they can't clarify things before hand, they won't when you're doing the work.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I agree - I'd run away from this guy on a freelance site.

      Wouldn't be surprised if his point (with poor language skills) is " do the work for free and if we make money, you make money". You get a title instead of guaranteed payment.


      What are you paid FOR YOUR WORK if he doesnt make money? Want to guess? ...and how would you know if he makes money or not?
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  • Profile picture of the author beasty513
    Either he puts some in escrow or it's a no.

    Don't feel pressured by this guy.
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  • Profile picture of the author artemis360
    On ANY project I work on I ask for 50% up front. The other 50% can be given upon project completion. I have contracts in place, etc. etc. It sounds like this guy is not able to convey his intentions clearly. It seems as though he wants you to do the work and wait for when payment is received when he receives it. I'm not so sure he's talking about paying you from his stash of cash if he even has any.

    Hope this helps,
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  • Profile picture of the author Katie Rich
    He isn't offering you any money, he's just offering you pie in the sky.

    As others have said, ask for the whole amount to be put into escrow. If he refuses or continues to waffle about percentages just dump the job.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I would ask for 50% cash advance. If he is not willing to pay that, just move on and don't take this "job".
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  • Profile picture of the author GforceSage
    Some may balk at putting 100% into escrow having don't done it before.

    Get 1/3 up front
    Place 1/3 in escrow
    Get 1/3 after a 5 day review approval

    Terms are always negotiable. Be fair, but do what you feel comfortable with and keep an eye on what terms other successful folks are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    100% into escrow is not unreasonable. Remember, the money has not been given to you, it is being held to protect you both.
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