Article on site or EZA first ?

[scarter11]

Quick newbie question. I have 5 new articles and am going to create a new niche blog. Should I add them all to the new blog first, start promoting, or add the first, bookmark, submit to directories, then repeat for the other 4?

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by scarter11

Quick newbie question. I have 5 new articles and am going to create a new niche blog. Should I add them all to the new blog first, start promoting, or add the first, bookmark, submit to directories, then repeat for the other 4?

Thanks in advance.

Add them all to your own blog first.....

James

[Allen Graves]

Yea - in fact, don't add them to your blog first...just add them to your blog.

As you create more content over the coming weeks and months, decide which to use for your own site and which to use for your marketing purposes, i.e. syndication through other websites.

Allen

[ikelove]

Wow, great thread! I had to split reading this over a few nights but I'm finally done with all 456! First of all, much props to James, Keith, Jay, Allen, Peter for the amount of value you guys provided here. I'm waiting to the last day of the month to sign up with HostGator and put up my blog (I decided to wait to the end of the month so as to have a consistent time scale of when my bills are due, instead of having it all haphazard on different times of the month). As a newbie, you guys helped fill in a lot of gaps of understanding I had.

The first lesson I learned in Marketing 101 from this thread is that the reason why people make money hand over fist selling informational products that give info that could be found for free is that MANY PEOPLE DON'T APPRECIATE FREE INFORMATION. I saw how people stubbornly argued with EXPERIENCED marketers how they were right and also saw how people were too lazy through this thread to find out the info for themselves. This makes me feel less guilty about selling information products in the future because, truthfully, people are more likely to listen when they actually are paying for something (although this isn't always guaranteed either).....great lesson!

This leads to my question about keywords which can be considered a sub-topic of this thread. I understand that keywords are what people enter into search engines to search for a particular area of interest, I understand how you research a keyword to find out how many hits it gets per month, but I'm a bit confused about how a marketer particularly uses a keyword for a site.

1) This may sound like a foolish question, but is there a specific tag used in HTML for keywords so that search engines can pick up on them??

2) Also, I've read how people write articles/blogs with keywords in them...what do you mean by that? E.g. if someone had a keyword "dog training", do they then write a blog with the words, "dog training" in them that will also subsequently be in the articles they duplicate and add to the different directories?

3) Now, because they'd be using these keywords as their "niche" so to speak, do they have to subsequently insert these keywords in EVERY blog they put up on their site? Won't that make the blog a bit stale if you're writing blogs for the purpose of inserting your chosen keyword?

4) What if 5/6 or whatever months down the line you decide these keywords aren't really searched too much or are too competitive, are you then screwed because all the other blogs that you have written have had these keywords and you can't go back and change them?

5) Can a site subsequently have more than one keyword?

6) What is it EXACTLY that guarantees your site getting listed high in the search engines with your chosen keywords? Is it the blog that you've written that contains the keywords that's posted on your site and on directories and social bookmarking sites as articles? Or is it that the backlinks that you're using to link back to your site actually have your keyword as the hyperlink back to your site. For example, if "dog training" is your keyword, you turn it into a hyperlink that links back to your site.

7) I heard it loud and clear that you can insert duplicate copies of your blog to EZA, Articlesbase, and other directories without any problem just as long as you are the author. How do you guys deal with squidoo, hubpages, etc. Do you also post duplicates on these sites as well or do you prefer to abridge what you've written. (Hey, if my question about squidoo, hubpages, etc. was already answered, forgive me, this was a LONG post. )

Sorry if my questions seems confusing, that is because I'm confused...

[adamsad]

what a thread...i spent more than 6 hours to read the whole thread...a lot of information. Now I have a clear view of how to use article that dubbed as duplicate content by some people. I think jonathan leger also mention that duplicate content is a myth

[rabbithunter666]

I think article on site first is better. Then, you can add EZA to work as back link for your site.

[wiley1]

That's a really good way of doing things. Thanks for the good information.

By the way, I looked at your Word Press Tutorials (clicked on your signature link). They look very good. I'm going to be using them. Good job!
Thanks for being so generous.

[troy23]

I put it onto a hub page and then onto EzineArticles. Unfortunately Ezine asked me to prove it was mine because they had found the exact same article elsewhere. So don't post the same article to the web site that you post to EzineArticles.

[Chris Kent]

Great thread (I read it all), I hope noone minds me raising it again because I have some questions if I may and I think the answers would benefit all. Thank you all for your contributions so far, I'm not the only grateful person I'm sure.

- For mass syndication: to spin or not? I noticed someone (sorry it is hard to track names in a thread this size!) mentioned different niches have different factors and ultimately to test. I will, but are the results, on the whole, fairly comparable? Or can one niche show 10x the results from one method compared to the other?

- Keywords: how many keywords to target in anchor url. Do you have a primary keyword? Do you have lesser secondary and longer tail keywords?

- This being the case, what is your split between backlinking for primary versus secondary.

- What are your search, broad and phrase match targets for these keywords?

- Do you have full RSS feeds on your blogs/sites or just partial ones?

- On syndicated articles, do you link back to the original article (seems pointless to me for the reader, but deep linking is good for link juice), a different article on the site (with relevant ranking keyword) or the main home page (with primary keyword)?

- Is there any danger at all in simply taking my existing sites I've had for a couple of years and just posting everything on them to EZA or to any other directory (e.g. mass syndication)?

- Playing devil's advocate here, long ago I just took a ton of PLR that already existed out there and shoved it on one domain. Actually I did this for a few niches. Some got good traffic and some got zero. Why do you think this is and was the big "G" punishing me for the latter sites?

- By the same reckoning, one could just stuff a Blogger blog with other people's directory articles and stick Adsense on it and it would get traffic? (still playing Devil's advocate!)

- How much short term traffic can one expect from mass syndication to directories? And how does this compare to EZA only?

- The suggested strategy of installing a blog on the same domain with summaries. I do not like administering multiple blogs/dbs etc. I have now placed a limit on this. Is this an essential step to that plan? Is there an alternative?

Thanks
Chris

Originally Posted by alexlucky2007

How can you be sure that your site will get indexed first before EZA?

If you read the entire thread you would not have asked that.. Take the time read the thread and you may learn a few things..

James

[Chris Kent]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

If you read the entire thread you would not have asked that.. Take the time read the thread and you may learn a few things..

James

That's the problem with such a long thread. I'm considering posting a summary as I went through the entire thing last night before posting some new questions that occured to me.

Maybe it will deter the dumb questions, maybe not

[JayXtreme]

Wow....

I am in shock that the beast of a thread is still goin strong.. makes me wish I placed some subliminal ads in here lolzzz....

Great to have it stickin' around for folks to learn from.

Peace

Jay

Originally Posted by ProductCreator

That's the problem with such a long thread. I'm considering posting a summary as I went through the entire thing last night before posting some new questions that occured to me.

Maybe it will deter the dumb questions, maybe not

I will answer every one of your questions below ...

- For mass syndication: to spin or not? I noticed someone (sorry it is hard to track names in a thread this size!) mentioned different niches have different factors and ultimately to test. I will, but are the results, on the whole, fairly comparable? Or can one niche show 10x the results from one method compared to the other?

It is your choice to spin or not it has nothing to do with niche. If you spin an article the proper way using the proper tool it will not even look like a spun article. There are benefits to spinning your articles though and some of those are: ability to pickup more publishers, incase at some time dupe content dos become real and you submitted spun articles, you have nothing to worry about. There are many many more reasons.

- Keywords: how many keywords to target in anchor url. Do you have a primary keyword? Do you have lesser secondary and longer tail keywords?

Again this is your choice, there is no set answer. This depends upon competition as well as many other factors. I do not always target the same keyword using the same anchor text. Maybe do 10 here for mykeyword1 and then 20 there for mykeyword2 and then switch back to keyword1 and etc..

- This being the case, what is your split between backlinking for primary versus secondary.

See above, there is no set answer as this depends upon competition. If you have 2 products and product 1 has huge competition where product 2 has low competition. Then it is obvious you want the majority to go to product1.

- What are your search, broad and phrase match targets for these keywords?

This is a personal preference and again there is no right answer as people will have different ways of doing things.

- Do you have full RSS feeds on your blogs/sites or just partial ones?

Your blog and/or site should have a Rss Feed, yes… But so does your articles on article directories, so does your bookmarking profiles.. Many Rss Feeds are set to show a limit of 20, 30, and etc .. This depends upon the site and how someone set it.

- On syndicated articles, do you link back to the original article (seems pointless to me for the reader, but deep linking is good for link juice), a different article on the site (with relevant ranking keyword) or the main home page (with primary keyword)?

On syndicated articles you should be linking to your money site but you could very well also link to your other related articles. This is something your should test as not all niches are going to give the same results. Personally myself I have linked to my main site and another article within the same article that has been syndicated.

- Is there any danger at all in simply taking my existing sites I've had for a couple of years and just posting everything on them to EZA or to any other directory (e.g. mass syndication)?

If it is of good quality and not junk PLR, there is no problem with this. You need to read all sites TOS and make sure you follow the TOS.

- Playing devil's advocate here, long ago I just took a ton of PLR that already existed out there and shoved it on one domain. Actually I did this for a few niches. Some got good traffic and some got zero. Why do you think this is and was the big "G" punishing me for the latter sites?

To many factors can play into this for anyone to be able to answer it properly. As for the Big G punishing someone, that does not happen unless you are doing something against the TOS.

- By the same reckoning, one could just stuff a Blogger blog with other people's directory articles and stick Adsense on it and it would get traffic? (still playing Devil's advocate!)

Some people do this and make a good amount of income. This is what syndication is all about. Site get free content (while keeping your resource in tact) and they add ads on the site to generate income.

- How much short term traffic can one expect from mass syndication to directories? And how does this compare to EZA only?

Syndication has nothing to do with short terms traffic… The entire idea is to get your site out there and get it noticed. This is part of branding your site / product. How much traffic depends upon many different factors and again nobody can answer this question. As for EZA - No Comment...

- The suggested strategy of installing a blog on the same domain with summaries. I do not like administering multiple blogs/dbs etc. I have now placed a limit on this. Is this an essential step to that plan? Is there an alternative?

This was one of my suggestions and it works perfectly, I know at least 20 people that have followed this and they are finally seeing some money coming in. You do not have to do this but it helps a great deal..

James

P.S. There are several proven plans that are step by step on this thread. Use those as a starting guide and take them and tweak them to your own way of doing things. You do not have to follow them exactly. Test .. Test... and do some more Testing.. See what works best for "YOU"..

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

Wow....

I am in shock that the best of a thread is still goin strong.. makes me wish I placed some subliminal ads in here lolzzz....

Great to have it stickin' around for folks to learn from.

Peace

Jay

Jay you're funny ....lol How you been dude, have not seen you in a good long time...

James

[dmderoeck]

You definitely want to use EZA to get your site/blog established via high PR link and for the traffic element, you can't beat it for young sites or, for a keyword you cannot rank for.

However, once you have your site has a foothold, I wean myself from EZA and instead post only on my site because in most cases you can outrank EZA. I instead opt for other forms of back links especially through more of a syndication process with "like" sites.

[JayXtreme]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Jay you're funny ....lol How you been dude, have not seen you in a good long time...

James

Busy...

It's the best time of year (for us), some of the summer build sites really start to pay big with the seasonal lists



Always good to see you around, dude.

Peace

Jay

p.s. Your constant effort to inform people and quash rumour/myths is above and beyond James, Kudos to you!.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

p.s. Your constant effort to inform people and quash rumour/myths is above and beyond James, Kudos to you!.

It is.

Actually you both do a great job of that.

Forum readers/members who take the trouble to "read around carefully" and decide intelligently/perceptively for themselves who's worth paying attention to and who's not, rather than being undiscriminating about it, have many reasons to be very grateful to each of you.

(And the rest can take their chances however they want! )

[JayXtreme]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

It is.

Actually you both do a great job of that.

Forum readers/members who take the trouble to "read around carefully" and decide intelligently/perceptively for themselves who's worth paying attention to and who's not, rather than being undiscriminating about it, have many reasons to be very grateful to each of you.

(And the rest can take their chances however they want! )

Too much love is never enough... thankyou!

Have a great evening/weekend, Alexa.

Peace

Jay

[Christian Fox]

One hell of a thread, someone could turn this into an E-book and sell it....

[JayXtreme]

Originally Posted by Christian Fox

One hell of a thread, someone could turn this into an E-book and sell it....

Many people already have

Peace

Jay

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

It is.

Actually you both do a great job of that.

Forum readers/members who take the trouble to "read around carefully" and decide intelligently/perceptively for themselves who's worth paying attention to and who's not, rather than being undiscriminating about it, have many reasons to be very grateful to each of you.

(And the rest can take their chances however they want! )

Thanks Alexa and thanks for some of the referrals also, I have had some PM me saying you sent them, so thanks pretty lady

I agree with Jay much love... Makes you feel wanted

p.s. Your constant effort to inform people and quash rumour/myths is above and beyond James, Kudos to you!.

Appreciate it Jay...

As far as an ebook, I am sure there are several created from this very thread by people that never posted in it...

James

[genei]

All I can say is THANKS!!! This thread has saved me a ton of work. Like many others here I was under the impression that I was going to rewrite all the articles I am going to publish in my blog. This clears up a misconception I ahve had for years.

Gene

[TheWinner]

Originally Posted by dmderoeck

You definitely want to use EZA to get your site/blog established via high PR link and for the traffic element, you can't beat it for young sites or, for a keyword you cannot rank for.

However, once you have your site has a foothold, I wean myself from EZA and instead post only on my site because in most cases you can outrank EZA. I instead opt for other forms of back links especially through more of a syndication process with "like" sites.

Hi dmderoeck,

You can get a brand new blog established right from the beginning. If anything, you are starting on the back foot if you post to EZA first because they take ages to approve your articles.

I post all my articles to my wordpress niche blog first, then EZA. By the time you have pinged your articles, bookmarked your articles, etc... Your article is indexed and around that time, your EZA will get approved. So you got the best of both World's.

I remember reading this thread back in August I think it was, thats when I applied the instructions that James, Jay, keith, Allen and other's I may have missed gave... and it work's wonder's . So my thanks goes to all these guys

As mentioned before, why throw money down the toilet by paying a landlord, when you can be using that money towards your own Real Estate.

Best way to build an online business.

Awesome thread

You can get a brand new blog established right from the beginning.

Exactly .. Many "think" you can't but the fact is you can get a brand new site/blog indexed before eza can approve an article. Build upon your own business first and foremost and not someone elses.

After you establish yours, then syndicate your content out to other places.

James

[Candace37]

This is a linking concept that is brilliant. It's simple. It apparently works, and yet if we weren't having this discussion, we'd never have found out about it. Thanks!

P.S. And if it weren't for James mentioning this thread in another discussion, I never would have discovered all the reasons why articles should be listed on my own site first before giving them over to EZA.

Thanks. This forum is awesome.

[tomswiftjr]

I have a question about the "duplicate content" issue. I read through the first half of this thread and people seem pretty frustrated on both sides, but I haven't heard any of the alleged evidence to support either position other than "I'm a senior internet marketer...take my word for it!" Can someone point me to some actual evidence that duplicate content is not a factor to Google? Specifically, I want to know why it's not a factor even though they specifically state that it is here:

Duplicate content - Webmasters/Site owners Help

However, in some cases, content is deliberately duplicated across domains in an attempt to manipulate search engine rankings or win more traffic. Deceptive practices like this can result in a poor user experience, when a visitor sees substantially the same content repeated within a set of search results.

Google tries hard to index and show pages with distinct information. This filtering means, for instance, that if your site has a "regular" and "printer" version of each article, and neither of these is blocked with a noindex meta tag, we'll choose one of them to list. In the rare cases in which Google perceives that duplicate content may be shown with intent to manipulate our rankings and deceive our users, we'll also make appropriate adjustments in the indexing and ranking of the sites involved. As a result, the ranking of the site may suffer, or the site might be removed entirely from the Google index, in which case it will no longer appear in search results.

[johnben1444]

Using you article on your site first can make EZA not to accept your article because it will be considered somebody's article and EZA only accept original content.

In my opinion it is best you use the article on EZA first before proceeding to use it on your site.

In other way, you can create a link for the article on your site.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by johnben1444

Using you article on your site first can make EZA not to accept your article because it will be considered somebody's article and EZA only accept original content.

Intriguing.

Clearly you posted without reading the thread at all, but still fascinating: what makes you think that EZA accepts only "original content"?

It's actually never been true, since EZA started, and it's certainly not true now, as you can see from all the experience article marketers here so patiently and repeatedly explaining why all their articles go first on their own sites and then to EZA; but what really interests me, in a macabre kind of way, is why so many people apparently still believe something that's never been true at all (not to mention why they want to "spread the word" about it)?!

[ODA Marketing]

Hi.

The reason for this misunderstanding, I think, lies in these lines from EZA Editorial Guidelines:

MUST NOT be a submission of the exact same article as one that you already submitted. Some authors have submitted the same article multiple times with only a few words changed in the body -- we reject these and ban authors who engage in this practice.

You also know that when a lie has gone around for a while, it becomes the true (myth).

The same as with duplicated content and with some methods for keyword research.

- Oddvar.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Intriguing.

Clearly you posted without reading the thread at all, but still fascinating: what makes you think that EZA accepts only "original content"?

It's actually never been true, since EZA started, and it's certainly not true now, as you can see from all the experience article marketers here so patiently and repeatedly explaining why all their articles go first on their own sites and then to EZA; but what really interests me, in a macabre kind of way, is why so many people apparently still believe something that's never been true at all (not to mention why they want to "spread the word" about it)?!

[Troy_Phillips]

Sometimes I get to the point of this mind frame .

Post where ever you feel is best . Believe the dupe thing . For God's sake .. do not get over 10 links to your site a day .

Then continue posting to my own site first, home directory second, link juice directories third .

Reformat content as many ways possible and submit it to.

But be warned ... that site you just can't seem to knock off with your required original article .... well it belongs to me . Yes the traffic is a lot better from up here .

Yes you are right . I did bore those that were not going to buy anyway with my 700 plus words of content . The ones that finished the article clicked buy now . The process was established from the first word to weed out those that were not going to be happy with my product so I get to keep the money they send me .

Hope you enjoyed your one day traffic spike with 200 click through. How many did you sell ?

Can you produce the same results every day .

But then I see someone like Alexa being sweet and reserved for the umpteenth time and realize that my approach is not the right one .

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Intriguing.

Clearly you posted without reading the thread at all, but still fascinating: what makes you think that EZA accepts only "original content"?

It's actually never been true, since EZA started, and it's certainly not true now, as you can see from all the experience article marketers here so patiently and repeatedly explaining why all their articles go first on their own sites and then to EZA; but what really interests me, in a macabre kind of way, is why so many people apparently still believe something that's never been true at all (not to mention why they want to "spread the word" about it)?!

[ODA Marketing]

Hi.

I have evidence for that it is not a factor for Google.

I have a website (blog) where you will not find much original material.

The site has now a page rank of 1, and Google has Indexed 308 pages.

- Oddvar

Originally Posted by tomswiftjr

I have a question about the "duplicate content" issue. I read through the first half of this thread and people seem pretty frustrated on both sides, but I haven't heard any of the alleged evidence to support either position other than "I'm a senior internet marketer...take my word for it!" Can someone point me to some actual evidence that duplicate content is not a factor to Google? Specifically, I want to know why it's not a factor even though they specifically state that it is here:

Duplicate content - Webmasters/Site owners Help

Hi Tom,
Well let's clear this up real quick... This myth about duplicate content penalty is so hyped up that it is sick. Some self proclaimed experts use this myth to sell you their junk products such as spinners, submit software, online tools and etc. These wannabe marketers should be ashamed but they are not because it is all about you giving them your money.

Duplicate content penalty in any form on your site or on other sites is nothing but a myth. This has been proven and a simple search in google will show anyone that. Most people that say it is a myth does not post links because they do not want people to know what rankings they have. Can't blame them either, why would you want your competition to know where and how you are listed ..

With that said though - here you go I dominate most of the front page with the same exact article and notice EZA is #2

Effective Social Media Bookmarking Techniques - Google Search

Now I could also post a link showing duplicate articles on the same exact site but I am not going to post those links. Probably since I posted the above the rankings will change..

With that said and proven .. Let me tell you what google does not want and I will spell it out in english since many misunderstand googles webmaster site.

Google does not want:

* Creating multiple page that are exactly the same for the purpose to game the system. This is known as creating doorway pages which many used to do years ago to gain top listings.

* Site that use self replicating webpages such as MLM companies do. These self replicating webpages are normally seen as dulicate and although google will NOT give you any penalty for them, they will not index the pages over and over.

Google has even released a video that there is no penalty and I am sure someone can post that here but it is posted on this forum several times.

James

Originally Posted by tomswiftjr

I have a question about the "duplicate content" issue. I read through the first half of this thread and people seem pretty frustrated on both sides, but I haven't heard any of the alleged evidence to support either position other than "I'm a senior internet marketer...take my word for it!" Can someone point me to some actual evidence that duplicate content is not a factor to Google? Specifically, I want to know why it's not a factor even though they specifically state that it is here:

Duplicate content - Webmasters/Site owners Help

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Intriguing.

Clearly you posted without reading the thread at all, but still fascinating: what makes you think that EZA accepts only "original content"?

It's actually never been true, since EZA started, and it's certainly not true now, as you can see from all the experience article marketers here so patiently and repeatedly explaining why all their articles go first on their own sites and then to EZA; but what really interests me, in a macabre kind of way, is why so many people apparently still believe something that's never been true at all (not to mention why they want to "spread the word" about it)?!

Maybe they should actually read this thread then they would have never posted what they did post ...

James

[Christian Fox]

I am in shock that the best of a thread is still goin strong.. makes me wish I placed some subliminal ads in here lolzzz....

Hey that gives me an idea... ------>CookieCookie<------

Kidding....

[redicelander]

Wow, this thread has been revived again?

Well, let me say I think it's best to worry about promoting your site first, and it can be done.

However, I think there are also times where you just may want some quick sales and so you post an article on ezine or wherever and just do your linking strategies back to the article and do a redirect to your affiliate link, without having to worry about setting up a website and all that. I know believe both strategies should be used.

As for duplicate content, yes, it's pretty much a myth! What's the whole point of article directories wanting people to republish their articles? There's duplicate content all over, for example CNN is a highly ranked website of course and yet sometimes their stories are from the AP and can be found almost word for work all over the internet.

[TheWinner]

I can't believe the duplicate content issue is still being mentioned in this post.

James explained it all perfectly again. If people actually read the thread and take action, you will have a hugely successful internet marketing career.

But anyhow, if anyone wants another example...Let me Google this legendary GnR song - Let me google that for you

Now, this is some genius original GnR content . Surely all these sites listing it's lyrics should be taken down and penalized for duplicate content? lol.

Sorry, I have to make a laugh out of this now

Morale of the story as mentioned a few thousand times now... Dup content is a myth.

[net-biz]

It depends, if the article was posted to a new site or an old-already-indexed site. If it were a new site I'd post to EZA first... mainly because of their PR, traffic, and readers. But, after getting the new site indexed and some sort of readership/visitors, I'd start posting to the new site.

Just my 2 cents...

[TheWinner]

Originally Posted by net-biz

It depends, if the article was posted to a new site or an old-already-indexed site. If it were a new site I'd post to EZA first... mainly because of their PR, traffic, and readers. But, after getting the new site indexed and some sort of readership/visitors, I'd start posting to the new site.

Just my 2 cents...

Hi mate,

Believe me, you can index a brand spanking new site quick.

Why not post your article to your own site, ping it, bookmark the post etc...once that is done, submit the article to EZA. Once EZA have taken a week or so to approve your article, or if there's any problems, add another week... your own site will be ranking for your keyword because you have built some backlinks in that time. You'll be getting the best of both Worlds that way.

[redicelander]

Originally Posted by net-biz

It depends, if the article was posted to a new site or an old-already-indexed site. If it were a new site I'd post to EZA first... mainly because of their PR, traffic, and readers. But, after getting the new site indexed and some sort of readership/visitors, I'd start posting to the new site.

Just my 2 cents...

Well, as you can have a site indexed in about a day, probably not a big deal. The only problem is if your site gets sandboxed, but there are ways around that and to repair that, as well.

Wish I had 10 cents every time I have said and/or proven dup content penalty was a myth ... I could actually help 100 newbies get a good and profitable business going online with the money just from that ...

James

Originally Posted by TheWinner

I can't believe the duplicate content issue is still being mentioned in this post.

James explained it all perfectly again. If people actually read the thread and take action, you will have a hugely successful internet marketing career.

But anyhow, if anyone wants another example...Let me Google this legendary GnR song - Let me google that for you

Now, this is some genius original GnR content . Surely all these sites listing it's lyrics should be taken down and penalized for duplicate content? lol.

Sorry, I have to make a laugh out of this now

Morale of the story as mentioned a few thousand times now... Dup content is a myth.

[JayXtreme]

In light of the recent evidence shown in this thread...

I think it is time for me to change my opinion.

The duplicate content penalty is NOT a myth... despite evidence to prove otherwise

Peace

Jay

[jamawebinc]

Always remember that writing an article should have a goal in mind. Usually this is for traffic bait or to show you know your subject matter.

Why does it have to be on ezine articles or your own website.

Why can't it be both with the article changed for the audience it is intended?

Also, why not have a full article on your website, with a shortened version on ezine articles to get people to click through to your website to read the full article.

Which also brings up another purpose for articles, to get people to click through them to get to another URL about you, whether this be your own domain or something like a squidoo page.

Always have the end goal in mind. Give great information, sure, but just posting a bunch of articles to ezine articles without leading people to click your resource box is pointless.

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

In light of the recent evidence shown in this thread...

I think it is time for me to change my opinion.

The duplicate content penalty is NOT a myth... despite evidence to prove otherwise

Peace

Jay

LOL ... How you doing Jay ... long time no see ...

It amazes me how many times you must prove something before it gets through to someone.

I would like to point out that I am no expert, no guru, or any other label you want to use. I am someone that has taken action and tested and tested massively...

A great and simple rule to follow:

Question everything and Test everything

By testing for yourself you will know the answers without 2nd guessing..

James

[Jag82]

Originally Posted by johnben1444

Using you article on your site first can make EZA not to accept your article because it will be considered somebody's article and EZA only accept original content.

Definitely not true. I submitted quite a few articles from my blog to EZA with no problem at all.

Jag

[JayXtreme]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

LOL ... How you doing Jay ... long time no see ...

I'm good, man.... nice to see you.

It amazes me how many times you must prove something before it gets through to someone.

Yup... that'll never change, we can only hope that the message gets through to some people through sheer force of our trying.

A great and simple rule to follow:

Question everything and Test everything

By testing for yourself you will know the answers without 2nd guessing..

James

^ ^ The only business rule that anyone should live by!

Peace to ya, James

Jay

[degcommunications]

I personally believe it's best to have 2 separate articles. This gives you a chance to rank your site and your marketing methods on the first page of google giving you a chance to grab them at your site or funnel them to your site via articles.

[JayXtreme]

Originally Posted by degcommunications

I personally believe it's best to have 2 separate articles. This gives you a chance to rank your site and your marketing methods on the first page of google giving you a chance to grab them at your site or funnel them to your site via articles.

And the cycle continues.....lol

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

And the cycle continues.....lol

Yeah I noticed .. Instead of taking the time to read the thread and learn and then maybe share or ask questions. They just read the first post and respond.. It's truly amazing!

James

[minted1]

i have done it both ways but found that i sometimes had a quicker response by submitting to ezine first simply because they are getting visited more regularly by the major search engines.. hope this helps

[mejust]

Post to EZA first then create link to your website. It will helps you get more traffic to your website.