I want to succeed and I am wiling to work my A$$ off to make it happen

you need a coach to do things the right way, if you want to make money in im market. with your skills, you can freelance real cheap on odesk or other sites.
if you good and cheap....you will get alot of business

I did not understand what you want help with.

Do you want to start with affiliate marketing and want to learn how to market online? You need to be more specific please.

There are some interesting answers in this recent thread that might be helpful.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...im-career.html

I'll quote mine here as well:

3 big mistakes I see new people make:

#1. Not knowing exactly where you want to go. (No definite Plan / Destination)
#2. Not knowing how to get there. (No Road map / Tour guide)
#3. Packing a heavy suitcase and going on the IM trip with #1 and #2 as your compass.

You know coding, right? Do you know how to sell yourself? If yes, you should focus on marketing yourself more. If you don't have a marketing plan yet, you should start dominating the freelance sites and also consider listing your services in the warriors for hire section here.

Now, if you are not happy with your niche, IM isn't for you. Harsh, but true - dreamy eyed "wannabe IMers" with "i want something big, but don't know what" sort of goals never make it big.

You have a skill buddy, love it and the money will follow.

best of luck.

Hey there,

I know how it feels... you need to grasp the concept of online marketing to better understand what you have to do. But if I were to start all over again, I'll have to start this way:

1. Follow interesting blogs in the industry.. matthewwoodward is one, yaro starak is another, quicksprout is another one.
2. Check out what they are doing.
3. Find your niche
4. Plan how you are going to monetize your niche (ebook, services, ads, events,affiliate marketing etc)
5. Create a blog and create a newsletter (always give value)
6. Choose one marketing strategy (forum, social media, seo, media buys, guest posting)
7, drive traffic to your site
8. keep on testing and tweaking depending on the results
9. never give up. come back here in this forum if you have questions.

There are many other ways that you can make money online and many other methods that you can use but this is what I am following right now. I'm pretty sure other members will give out their own methods as well. Just choose one and never give up

I've got some advice. Change the way you represent situations to yourself. Your name for starters. FailFailFail. You are a coder and you're programming yourself for failure. You've put the word fail three times in front of succeed. Ugh.

Look at all the negatives I've identified in your post. More failure programming. Start thinking, speaking and writing success and watch what happens.

And don't tell me it doesn't matter, because it does. Your subconscious believes what you feed it all day long. Start focusing more on winning, success and achievement and you'll begin to see those things in your life. Good luck.

This is my advice to you.

Trust your guts. ( Get a Coach if you want to, but trust your guts. It's your business.)
Don't base your decision on advice who won't deal with the results.
Believe in yourself.
Failure is a process of Success.
Don't over complicate things ( Webpage -> Traffic/Promote -> Get Leads -> Sell ).
Take the risk. ( IM like Business is a risk. Without taking risk, you're not in business.)
Don't believe in hype
Don't make stupid people famous ( so called Gurus )
Listen to what your customer needs.

That's my advice to you.

If you are really good at coding why not create a blog or website about coding? Teach people how to do things, create value to your readers.

Offer them products maybe?

Use your skills to create products. If you really have years worth of knowledge, all you need to do is compile it with your own twist.

Find someone you can model and use as reference, someone that you think best relates to you. Study exactly what they do... e.g how they teach, their funnels etc.

If you're willing to put in the hard yards, all that's stopping you is taking the necessary actions to get there.

True Entrepreneurs know what they want and work backwards from there.

meditate on it until you "get it"... no rush... your right idea/s will come... just meditate on it

Its the same old song.. "I don't know what to do". Being entrepreneurial is having that 'spark' in your soul that means you always know what to do.. even when you don't.

You will succeed you know why I say that the title of this thread says it all 99% of people don't have your attitude so props to you for awesome go get em attitude.

You'll succeed its just a matter of time with that mindset.

If you know that coding wont give you the financial/time lifestyle that you're looking for... then make an internet business your main priority. You just need to get started - and continue to build up the business for years and years on end. Don't stop. Don't ever stop the process of business building.

I would throw out there that . . .you don't have to hit a home run. Four walks still gets you score my friend.

I would agree with all that you need to map your course, but don't think you have to get it all at once. Most successful people (not just internet marketers) have multiple streams of income. Start by generating ONE . ..even if it is small. Then learn from that and do another . . . hopefully a little better . . . .and another. . . and another.


If one is a home run, great. But either way you are on your way.

Just my two cents.

What do you need help with? I don't understand. Try creating a membership sit for people who want to learn code.

I would say build some type of tool that every network marketer has to have, this would increase sales and brand yourself, if you are good at coding its just the ability to say I'm gonna do it... I know you can do it I believe in you !!

What is appealing to you about internet marketing? Do you enjoy coding...or are you looking for a 180-degree turn, if so, what is it about coding that you want out of and what do you want to work toward.

Just asking because it is a pretty radical shift, that said, nothing wrong with radical shifts, I've certainly made some of those in my life on route to building businesses and using internet marketing to market some of them.

Key to getting good advice though is helping people understand what you are trying to get away from and what you would like to work towards and why...then we can help.

Jeff

If you can afford it, get a coach. They have done most of the failing for you
and will hold you accountable to the tasks you need to be doing.

I agree Mr. Jay, but the key is to keep going.

I haven't hit it yet, or maybe I have and I just haven't done enough of it?


I feel like the wisest business model is to work toward passive and recurring income streams. I am deeply in love with the internet. I'm a coder and I can build anything. I have a million and one interests. All of these things combined seem to me to point toward some form of internet marketing endeavor.


It seems to me this "niche" is over played. Maybe not, I don't know.


Damon, I appreciate your input. I'm ok with no home runs, several first bases would be spectacular though. Maybe an RBI here and there?

My most consistent "win" is a site I build 4 years ago that earns a hundred bucks a year very consistently. It used to make it's money off google traffic, but it got slapped, now it makes it's money off Yahoo and Bing. It's a junk site though and it would take alot of those junk sites to earn a living.

In addition, I don't want to rely on adsense for income as I know that account can get the ax anytime for any reason, legit or not.

Ok, I'm game, what should I build

Have you tried posting in the JV section, offering to team your tech skills with someone else's marketing skills? I'd start there.

I love to help people. I have mentored coders in the past, professionally and loved it.

I love getting stuff in the mail and have always thought it would be a blast to be shipping things to people that they can not wait to get. Does that make any sense?

I met a guy online once that had a family recipe for a "tonic" that you could put on your dogs feet to help toughen them up. My dog (a big bad american bulldog no less) had sensitive feet and I wanted to find a way to help him.

When I called the guy he explained what he had, asked for my address and said he would ship it right out to me. He never took money??? I said you forgot to get my money. He said "don't worry about it, I'm sending you and invoice with the bottle, pay me whenever you can".

I met another guy online that made motorcycle parts. I wanted to order a kit that modified my carb to allow everything to be adjusted by hand so that you didn't have to have tools to tweak it on the road. He told me the price and said if you are short on money, don't worry about it.

There is a bee keeper near where I live. He has a little stand in his yard where he puts his honey when it's available. He has a box there that you can put your money in when you take the honey. He does business on the honor system.

I'd like to be able to do business like these guys, but internet style if that makes any sense. All of my business doesn't have to be done like that but I'd like to have the option to do it like that at times, or maybe just a portion of my business comes like that.

I've always thought it would be fun to find a way to make money giving stuff away to people. Maybe create a following that just wants free stuff here local. Then I could find businesses that want to advertise so I take a portion of their advertising fees and buy "prizes" that I give away to anyone interested. It's a win win.

I always thought it would be fun to help poor people like this too. Get a following of people that want to help then take donations and fill their needs.

Ofcourse, in the end, it seems like something that utilizes my ability to code makes the most sense. I've been coding for over 30 years and I have coded in over 20 languages. I really like to interact with people though and have been asked in interviews if I've done sales because I don't come across as someone that wants to sit behind a computer all day which is true. I'd love to have a business that allowed me to be out in the world more. I'm not a big fan of sitting in a windowless room all day. Atleast if I'm spending a chunk of my on the computer I'd like to be sitting at a coffee house or my back yard while I work.

I love to work. I'd be bored without it. I just want to forge my own path, be the boss, decide how stuff gets done, rather than making someone else rich through my efforts.

I hope this all makes sense.

I'm a marketer with enough experience with many software and website creation ideas but with lack of programming skills. LOL! Let's make a deal!

I'm an idea man, myself. But, as they say, ideas are cheap. It's action that made other people rich with your ideas.

Best o' luck!

I'm somebody who grew up in tons of computer science nerdy circles.

It's true that many among us just aren't that entrepreneurial, and are too nerdy to develop really unique ideas.



My advice? Forget EVERYTHING, and focus on WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

Seriously.

I don't care how fast you run... If you run in the wrong direction you're doomed... Right?

So ask yourself, what do you want to do?

Brainstorm until your objectives are clear.

(How are you going to code that badass app if you don't have any functional requirements? - A metaphorical inquiry; I'm not indicating that you're forced to focus solely upon programming).

You'd be THRILLED with your life, if you were doing XYZ.

Well... What does XYZ equal?

If your objectives are NOT clear, drop everything else and continue brainstorming on WHAT you want to accomplish.

Do loop until objections.clear=true

End if.

Create something you wish existed and then find a partner who shares the same passion to push it out into the world.

This will at least build your network and your confidence which will lead to becoming an entrepreneur.

You must get started.

The only way to learn to swim is to jump into the pool.

Strategizing, planning, and preparing only build the perceived barrier to entry.

Being able to code is what 99% of online marketers wish they can do. If you can think of something and turn it into an actual product, service, software, application, etc. You're light-years ahead of your peers.

Take 2 weeks and develop a concept that you wish existed.

Then come back here and pitch it to others.

Now you're an entrepreneur.

Then all you have to do is work on your craft for another 5 years or so and you'll eventually make enough money to support yourself and your family.

There is no elevator to success, you must take the stairs!

Start going some coding gigs on fiverr.com

Partner up, with a good marketer. Many have done this and keep doing this. Do this, till you get the hang of things.

If you are a halfway decent coder, code things the IM community can use to make sites / gauge competition / gain an edge.

Here is one idea:
Updating Proxy Database

Not that hard to code, wrap it in a neat .NET GUI or offer it as SAAS.

Seriously, most tools out there are not that well made.
Look what is offered and how you can add value.

Team up with a good designer and someone who knows how to make user experience work (or work on that yourself)

Hope that helps.

If I can give you the one piece of advice that helped me the most( and led me to making the most money) was to find a method and stick to it. I know it sounds simple but I know tons of people struggle with picking something and sticking to it. I tried it all(ppc, affiliate, offline ect) and did ok but I never had massive success until I focused on one thing. I unsubscribed from every list except one persons who's business I wanted to emulate. I quit coming here( to easy to get distracted) and only made myself do one thing per day, and I got more done then ever.

Think of any skill or knowledge you have (everyone has one). Create a product about it and sell it to your market. You can knock out a product in under 6 hours and the ROI is amazing. If you have no idea where to start consider getting a coach or mentor to help get your first one done, then rinse and repeat.

All the best

It sounds like you have a ton of knowledge on coding.. have you ever considered creating a coding course and uploading it to Udemy's platform? I make really great money with my products on Udemy and I'm sure you could as well!