A New Way to Get Affiliates?

by GarrieWilson

Posted: 15 years ago 23 replies

INTERNET MARKETING

Ive been getting the following emails, from different people, and don't really believe them. Has someone written a new method to get affiliates?

The reason I don't believe it is because I think they would make more site targeting adsense.

Email:
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I just recently went through my Google Adwords sales and discovered that your website has done very well with my product (making multiple sales).

Via Adwords ads shown on your website, I have had multiple sales.

The product I have sold through your website is: .

So, I was thinking, why not get you in on some of the action with more permanent links.

And you could add it to your website and make $15 bucks per sale (50% of the sale price).

Since your website was one of the better sellers of my item, I think if we put it on many of your pages, we could get many sales..

HOW TO ADD AFFILIATE LINKS SO YOU ARE PAID:

I explain how at the above link. If you do not have a Clickbank account, you would need to get one.

Would you be interested? This is based on real sales data, not some random emailing like others do.. I am actually trying to "laser target" my sales and you would be able to make some extra money as well.
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Thoughts?

#affiliates

Paul Myers

15 years ago

Garrie,

That's one clever damned scam. It would probably work on anyone in that market who had AdSense on their site.

And the whole thing could easily be automated.

Sleazy, but smart.

Paul

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John Taylor

15 years ago

I must be missing something, because I'm not seeing
a problem with someone using his Adwords data to
target the sites on the Adsense content network that
are driving targeted traffic to his products.

I've approached people on the Adsense network with
a similar offer because financially it makes sense..

Advertising on Adwords is based on the cost per click
model, so you have to pay for all the traffic. By dealing
with the site owner as an affiliate, you only pay for the
sale.

How is it either a "scam" or "sleazy"?

John

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Paul Myers

15 years ago

John,

How is it either a "scam" or "sleazy"?

Perhaps I'm leaping to tall conclusions.

I've gotten substantively identical emails myself, for products on which I've made exactly zero affiliate sales through Clickbank in the time mentioned, and no AdSense revenue to speak of. When I played along and asked questions, I got anchor-text links, and instructions on how and where to put them on the sites in question.

If it's true, it makes perfect sense. The ones I got emails from were lying through their automated teeth. Maybe Garrie's dealing with a different person.

Paul

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Kevin Riley

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

John,Perhaps I'm leaping to tall conclusions.

A rare picture of Paul Myers leaping to tall conclusions. Of course, this was taken many decades ago when he still could do such feats. Nowadays, the old man is lucky if he can reach up to grab the bowl of everyday conclusions from the upper cabinets, and mostly satisfies himself with the mediocre conclusions that he finds between the couch cushions.

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Harvey Segal

15 years ago

Notice that but for a slight oversight in the name Paul Myers
(i.e the 'l' and 'y' should be replaced with 'n')
we get an anagram of . . . SuperMan.

Harvey

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Harvey Segal

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

Notice that but for a slight oversight in the name Paul Myers
(i.e the 'l' and 'y' should be replaced with 'n')
we get an anagram of . . . SuperMan.

Harvey

Unfortunately I've found another anagram

Replace 'y' with 's' and you get . . . Spam Rules

Harvey

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ExRat 15 years ago

Hi Harvey,

Notice that but for a slight oversight in the name Mr. Supertips
(i.e the second 'p' should be replaced with 't')

we get ..............

Also -

Notice that but for a slight oversight in the name Harvey Segal
(i.e the 'g' should be replaced with 's' and add in some R&D (add an 'r' and a 'd')
we get an anagram of . . . very hard sales

Also -

Notice that but for a slight oversight in the name ExRat
(i.e the 'E', 'x' & 'R' should be replaced with 't' and 'w'

we get ............
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- Harvey Segal 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ExRat
  
  Notice that but for a slight oversight in the name Mr. Supertips
  (i.e the second 'p' should be replaced with 't')
  
  Hey Mods.
  
  This is an insult.
  
  Originally Posted by ExRat
  
  Notice that but for a slight oversight in the name ExRat
  (i.e the 'E', 'x' & 'R' should be replaced with 't' and 'w'
  
  This raises a debateable point.
  Can you be banned for insulting yourself ?
  
  This may require a rewrite of the forum rules,
  I am now in deep discussion with Allen.
  
  Harvey
  
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  John Taylor 15 years ago
  
  Harvey,
  
  Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal
  
  Hey Mods.
  
  This is an insult.
  
  Is there a specific reason for insulting
  the Mods?
  
  John
  
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discrat

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

UHMMM.....You got over 15% or so more Posts than he does, but he's got over 150% more Thankyous than you !!
Am I missing something

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ppc4profit 15 years ago

I don't think it is a scam as I don't see any meaningful money changing hands and the small risk is that the ad does produce sales but the site owner does not get paid for these.

Seems like a win / win. The site owner can continue to show Adsense ( with the risks of Google changing their policies etc) and also carry direct ads in this new affiliate relationship.
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aceriker 15 years ago

John, I would assume that you could approach any site related to your product which was running adsense and make them this proposal - regardless of whether you are a) running an adwords campaign, or b) have any ads running on their site.

If you are actually running ads on the persons site, then there wouldn't be anything shady about this proposal.

Peter
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John Taylor 15 years ago

In what may be a futile attempt to get this
thread back on topic..

For anyone thinking about approaching site
owners within the Adsense content network,
you need to routinely run the "Placement
Report" and review the details of where your
traffic originated.

That will help you to pinpoint the sites that
are worth contacting.

John
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- ExRat 15 years ago
  
  Hi Harvey,
  
  Hey Mods.
  
  This is an insult.
  
  I was actually complementing you on your impressive man boobs.
  
  Can you be banned for insulting yourself ?
  
  This may require a rewrite of the forum rules
  
  With a small tweak to the forum software, I could infract myself.
  
  Sorry John. :rolleyes:
  
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  Michael Mayo 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ExRat
  
  With a small tweak to the forum software, I could infract myself.
  :rolleyes:
  
  Please Roger, Do it in private not here in the forum for all to see.
  
  ~Michael
  
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  debra 15 years ago
  
  ok..I'm offically lost :confused:
  
  Can someone legitamize recruiting worthwhile affiliates or not?
  
  or..are we all just suppose to sit back and watch a possible hamster fight?
  
  Lend me a few brian cells here.
  
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  Paul Myers 15 years ago
  
  Kevin,
  
  You forgot about the 12 oz. conclusions I keep in the fridge.
  
  Harvey,
  
  Can you be banned for insulting yourself?
  
  Another interesting question: Is concern over this the reason you've never used a picture of yourself on the forum?
  
  discrat,
  
  Am I missing something
  
  Yes. Yes, you are.
  
  Garrie,
  
  Ok I heard back and this request was legit.
  
  Not the same one that contacted me, then. Which makes me think it's something mentioned in a course, and which someone took in a different direction than was explained. Not as though that doesn't happen all the time...
  
  I'm not at all sure I like this technique. Smart, but wide open for abuse.
  
  Paul
  
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GarrieWilson 15 years ago

Paul,

Yeah it is a smart but tad sleazy. I wonder if someone has written a report telling people to do it or even software to automate searching keywords and sites w/ AdSense.

John,

This particular person pays $15/sale and I dought he is paying that much in Adwords. I say this based on what my sites make in Adsense. And they are very low traffic.

I emailed this particular person asking which site and haven't heard back as of yet.

Could it be legit? Possibly but I highly dought it since its not the first person to contact me with the same type of email. Ive had two just this week.

Garrie
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GarrieWilson 15 years ago

Ok I heard back and this request was legit.

He was getting from 16% - 100% conversion from 10 or so of my pages. Of course that data is over atleast the last year as some of the pages are no longer online.

He says he stopped using AdWords and is contacting people who made conversions in the past.

Two lessons here.

1. Don't be cynical but do ask questions.
2. When contacting people, give more information than a simple pitch.

Garrie
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stevenbrandon411 15 years ago

I think this is a really good idea and a really good way to make a little extra money for your website. I think it would also be good to charge them a monthly fee instead of a onetime fee.
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LavelleC 15 years ago

This isn't a sleazy or questionable practice. The only thing that's questionable is whether not it's an authentic offer based on authentic data from an authentic advertiser/merchant. If it turns out to be a fraud, then it should be considered sleazy.

We keep data on which sites send traffic through Adsense clicks and which clicks convert to sales. And, yes; I do try to contact all sites and provide as much real data as possible, along with my phone number for validation.

In my offer, I suggest running an affiliate link of some sort along with their adsense ads and see if it pays off for them. Sometimes it does; sometimes it doesn't, but I always leave it up to the publisher to decide based on their own results.

It diversifies our marketing channels and diversifies publisher's income channels and could prove to be more profitable for both of us. It's a clear win/win, so long as everyone is on the up and up with each other from the start.

Lavelle Collins
Affiliate Manager
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- actionplanbiz 15 years ago
  
  one of the best scam emails i have recieved was about an FBI Agent Telling me that someone from nigeria is trying to withdraw money from my account. and that they need my cooperation to catch this Guy. So they wanted me to let the transaction go through.
  
  But the Most Funny thing is His Email Address is a was something like washingtond.fbi.gov@live.com
  
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  Steven Wagenheim 15 years ago
  
  Unfortunately, any legit method of promotion can be abused, which is why it
  is always good to do the following when contacting somebody.
  
  1. Find out their first name at minimum and use it in your address to them.
  
  2. Give as much info as you can about THEIR site so that they can see that
  it is indeed a legit contact.
  
  3. Make it personal. Don't be pushy. Always be thinking WIIFT (what's in
  it for them?)
  
  If you do these 3 simple things, you'll have a much better chance of getting
  a positive response.
  
  I teach many methods where personal contact with another marketer is
  required. If used properly, they can be very effective and certainly legit.
  
  Unfortunately, they can all be abused, just like with any piece of software
  used for submissions or something else where a third party is ultimately
  involved. You can't prevent it, but to keep from being caught up in the
  negativity of it, follow the simple steps above and act responsibly.
  
  Will people still accuse you of spam or worse? Probably, but a lot fewer
  than if you were actually spamming them.
  
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ildarius 15 years ago

I've gotten one like that, I'm going to test out the program and see what that gives.

It's an "email look up" service from CB
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