Successfully using blogs for your affilate marketing? How are you doing it?

supergirl · 06-23-2009, 06:27 PM

Can those of you who are successfully using blogs for your affiliate marketing please tell me this?

1. For a brand new blog, how many posts or pages should you have up and published before monetizing the blog with affiliate links?

2. I hear some people say they have 20, 50 or even 100's of blogs. I thought that with an affiliate blog, just like any other type blog, I guess, you'd have to continuously update them, providing new and fresh content almost daily, in order for them to be successful, otherwise it's dead. And how is it possible to successfully maintain that many blogs at one time?

3. What I want to do is have just a few affilate blogs, maybe 3 - 5, going at the same time. Once I get my first one up, how long should I wait until I start on the second one?

4. I'm thinking long term success for these blogs. What would make an affiliate blog successful?

5. There are some Warriors who say they put up a blog with a few posts just a few weeks ago, did many things to promote the blog (article marketing, pinging, social bookmarking, etc.) and are now making money from the blog.
I'm just wondering how long your success lasts with such small blogs. Do you maintain these blogs or just put them up and move on to the next one?

Thanks a bunch!

rockstarinlife · 06-23-2009, 06:46 PM

I would like to know this too. Been playing around with blogs and not sure if its the best for me. or best use of my marketing time I should say.

Swastik · 06-23-2009, 07:10 PM

Hi -

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Originally Posted by supergirl

Can those of you who are successfully using blogs for your affiliate marketing please tell me this?

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1. For a brand new blog, how many posts or pages should you have up and published before monetizing the blog with affiliate links?

Generally, when I build a blog, I get about 5 posts up, 3 pages (About, Contact, Privacy policy) and other important things such as sitemap etc.

I drip feed a good amount of the content.

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2. I hear some people say they have 20, 50 or even 100's of blogs. I thought that with an affiliate blog, just like any other type blog, I guess, you'd have to continuously update them, providing new and fresh content almost daily, in order for them to be successful, otherwise it's dead. And how is it possible to successfully maintain that many blogs at one time?

I'd tell you the approach I take.

Handle one project at a time. Build a blog, get 25 articles, post 5, drip feed one every week. There you've 20 weeks (almost 5 months) of content automatically being added to your site.

I've a few blogs which haven't been updated for 3-4 months and they still maintain first page rankings in Google. Don't have much experience here, so don't take my word on this. (I mean ranking on SE's without updating for a long time)

For me, as long as targeted traffic is flowing in, it's all good. :-)

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3. What I want to do is have just a few affilate blogs, maybe 3 - 5, going at the same time. Once I get my first one up, how long should I wait until I start on the second one?

I actually get one project going a week, research the market in a couple days, build the site in 3-4 hours, outsource the backlinking to people here on WF and then move on to the next project.

I'd say I spend a week maximum on a blog to research the market, build it, get it indexed and get a fair amount of backlinks.

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4. I'm thinking long term success for these blogs. What would make an affiliate blog successful?

Targeted traffic and conversion.

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5. There are some Warriors who say they put up a blog with a few posts just a few weeks ago, did many things to promote the blog (article marketing, pinging, social bookmarking, etc.) and are now making money from the blog.

I'm just wondering how long your success lasts with such small blogs. Do you maintain these blogs or just put them up and move on to the next one?

Sounds quite similar to my model, so I'll answer -

Usually, the blog is all good for 3-4 months. Exceptionally, I've ONE blog which maintains the page #1 ranking in various search engines despite not being updated in the past 6 months.

I don't spend much time maintaining these blogs. They're kind of Build - Make money and let go.

Thanks

Keith Kogane · 06-24-2009, 02:32 AM

I use Yaab Wordpress plugin to pull RSS feeds with sites that come up with searches for my keyword. The post is just something like "Hey, haven't updated in a while, but I came across this and thought it was worth linking to. Don't forget we have great articles like XXX in and other ones about YYY and ZZZ in our archive. Anyway, if you check out the article below, be sure to leave a comment. REPOSTED LINK AND SUMMARY GOES HERE."

The point is, after you quit posting QUALITY content to your blog, you set something like that up to continue posting on a regular basis. You notice that it will keep posting FRESH stuff via reposting other related content, AND it will keep backlinking your own earlier quality posts.

Note that won't make much difference on your own blog, but if you regularly submit your RSS feeds to aggregators, those links will get picked up elsewhere.

Continuous content + continuous backlink building = good.

You won't have that problem of your blogs vanishing after 4 months if you do that. I haven't anyway.

If anyone does decide to pursue my method above, I have an advanced tip, too. When I do those article intros, I use another plugin called Stray Random Quotes. I load that up with my target keywords and all my "good" posts and article titles I want to promote. That way, it's automatically randomizing what is linked to, and with what target keywords.

Then you can forget about it, and it'll run itself for much longer than a few months.

Hope that helps!

ExRat · 06-24-2009, 04:45 AM

Hi Supergirl,

(hey, I've been looking for you all of my life!

)

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For a brand new blog, how many posts or pages should you have up and published before monetizing the blog with affiliate links?

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What I want to do is have just a few affilate blogs, maybe 3 - 5, going at the same time. Once I get my first one up, how long should I wait until I start on the second one?

This advice will sound really boring and predictable, but it's actually the best advice I could give you.

When it comes to building a business and these type of questions, there is nothing wrong with asking, reading the answers, learning from them etc...

BUT -

You're getting into SEO territory. Much of what you will read is speculation, much of it will be specific to that person's particular business, websites etc

SEO changes every day because the SE algo's do.

The BEST way to find answers to questions like this is to test it and closely monitor your findings.

Take your question 3.

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What I want to do is have just a few affilate blogs, maybe 3 - 5, going at the same time. Once I get my first one up, how long should I wait until I start on the second one?

Build as many as you like in one day. But ideally, change one aspect of each one - EG - add affiliate products at differing stages of development,with roughly equal gaps between the point where you monetise. Then analyse what happens and try to make your OWN guesstimate of what is the best point to monetise the blog. Then try and figure out why it is so. Try and work out what the SE is trying to do by either punishing or rewarding you.

Many people fail to conduct their own tests, but continually ask others, and all that happens is that they come back with info overload, or report back that everyone gives them conflicting answers.

You are steering your own ship. Your crew depends on you. By all means ask the captain of the ship next to you (who might be competing with you to reach the same place) for a clear path through the rocks. But don't blindly follow his advice as if it were gospel. Evaluate his advice, but steer your OWN path based on your OWN findings.

bgmacaw · 06-24-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by supergirl

1. For a brand new blog, how many posts or pages should you have up and published before monetizing the blog with affiliate links?

It depends. I always wait until the site is indexed by Google before adding any monetization. Placing ads at the start can slow down indexing. For Adsense, I wait even longer, until I'm getting steady traffic for targeted keywords.

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Originally Posted by supergirl

2. I hear some people say they have 20, 50 or even 100's of blogs. I thought that with an affiliate blog, just like any other type blog, I guess, you'd have to continuously update them, providing new and fresh content almost daily, in order for them to be successful, otherwise it's dead. And how is it possible to successfully maintain that many blogs at one time?

No. That's a common myth. With good SEO you can treat it just like a static HTML site. Some of my best earners haven't been updated significantly in almost 2 years. That said, there are some competitive niches where constant updating can help to some degree but most aren't this way.

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Originally Posted by supergirl

3. What I want to do is have just a few affilate blogs, maybe 3 - 5, going at the same time. Once I get my first one up, how long should I wait until I start on the second one?

You should start the next one immediately, no waiting around, no checking stats, no tweaking. Build as many as you can, build links to your sites and set aside a day or two a month for stats checking and tweaking.

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Originally Posted by supergirl

4. I'm thinking long term success for these blogs. What would make an affiliate blog successful?

Targeted buying search traffic.

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Originally Posted by supergirl

5. .... I'm just wondering how long your success lasts with such small blogs. Do you maintain these blogs or just put them up and move on to the next one?

It can last quite a while if your SEO is good, years in fact. Keep moving and don't stop.

supergirl · 06-25-2009, 12:29 AM

Hey, I want to thank all you warriors for your help. And believe me, the information you've provided is very, very helpful.

Thanks a bunch!!!!

patricialin · 06-25-2009, 04:03 AM

Hi Supergirl,

Well, when you set up your brand new blog, it's always good to have content up between 5 to 10 posts for a start. Always make sure that these posts are keyword optimized. It's good to post just 1-2 pages as well. Then submit your site to web directories for a start to get your site indexed.

From the beginning, you can actually start to monetize your posts and blogs with adsense, affiliate banners. (coz you never know who might come by your blog.)

You can preschedule your posts so that everything is on autopilot mode. I recommend posting blog posts once every 5-7 days. Also drive traffic to your site by social bookmarking your posts.

In fact there are many traffic generation strategies that you can apply to increase traffic to your blog.

You can have as many blogs as you wish. If you were to preschedule your blog posts for like 6months or 1 year, it will be easier to manage. I believe that once you have successfully set up a blog, monetized your blog and blog posts, and covered content for 6months to a year, you can leave the blog on its own and perhaps monitor it once every month.

You can start on the next blog once you are comfortable with leaving the current blog alone and on autopilot mode.

I would think that quality content matters when making an affiliate blog successful. Be sure that your content is good, unique and also beneficial to your blog visitors. Also, promote only good affiliate products that even you believe it's too good to miss out on. and not just any product under the sun. Always think about how your web visitor will benefit from your site.

I would say that those small blogs with little content and high traffic can last about a year. However, it really depends on the content. If the content is good like, "How To..." posts which will still generate traffic on its own when people search i.e. "how to fish" etc. , you can be sure that the site will still have traffic in the long run and still make continue to make sales though there aren't much activity.

gianne2705 · 06-25-2009, 08:11 AM

For me,there's no specific time in beginning your second blog.You can published it after a few days of launching your first blog.Just keep mind as long as it is unique and has quality content then it's fine..

michael_nguyen · 06-25-2009, 08:23 AM

If you get visitors then it doesnt matter. 1 post is enough. If you have something good to offer then you'll make a sale.Traffic is whats important. I have a blog that has maybe 4 post sitting at 3rd spot. Been getting sales every now and again.

Jim Phillips · 06-25-2009, 08:54 AM

Hi Super,

Different strokes for different folks.

Figure your goal, write it down.

How much time do you have to work your business each day?

Draw up your plans from your time available.

Get to work. Do it. Have fun.

Follow your plan whether your building a blog a day or every other day. Tweak it as you go.

Only action is going to put money in your pocket.

Most important two words of advice I can give you.

Do it.

Then do it some more and don't stop.

Best Regards,

Jim

PS. Help someone along the way. What goes around comes around.

5starAffiliatePrograms · 06-25-2009, 06:07 PM

My advice is different than much of what I'm reading in this post.

I say FOCUS on one niche until it's making decent money. Then scale and keep focusing on that niche if it's a good one or after you start making money then start the next one.

James Martell who wrote 'the book' on affiliate marketing posts at my affiliate forum. We have a thread about "If you could start all over again, knowing what you know now, what would you do differently???"

James said he would focus all his energy on ONE site - just one.

He used to teach people to launch a bunch of niche sites and after many years of experience, he now feels he should have just focused and he would have been further ahead.

Food for thought!

discrat · 06-25-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supergirl

Can those of you who are successfully using blogs for your affiliate marketing please tell me this?

1. For a brand new blog, how many posts or pages should you have up and published before monetizing the blog with affiliate links?

2. I hear some people say they have 20, 50 or even 100's of blogs. I thought that with an affiliate blog, just like any other type blog, I guess, you'd have to continuously update them, providing new and fresh content almost daily, in order for them to be successful, otherwise it's dead. And how is it possible to successfully maintain that many blogs at one time?

3. What I want to do is have just a few affilate blogs, maybe 3 - 5, going at the same time. Once I get my first one up, how long should I wait until I start on the second one?

4. I'm thinking long term success for these blogs. What would make an affiliate blog successful?

5. There are some Warriors who say they put up a blog with a few posts just a few weeks ago, did many things to promote the blog (article marketing, pinging, social bookmarking, etc.) and are now making money from the blog.
I'm just wondering how long your success lasts with such small blogs. Do you maintain these blogs or just put them up and move on to the next one?

Thanks a bunch!

Blogging is my choice of poison !

. And my Passion. It is more of a long term investment and yes you have to continual update. I have 11 Blogs. And when I started to make money with Adsense I took that Money and outsourced Articles to put on my Blog. This is how you really harness much power. And this is the Power of Blogging. Keep making more and more Money and keep reinvesting it with Articles and more blogs.

But I would say the best way to start is to Monetize with Adsense because you can start Earning with just a little traffic . And then as your Traffic increases with time you can transition over to Affiliate Products !!
And just keep reinvesting !

bgmacaw · 06-25-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 5starAffiliatePrograms

I say FOCUS on one niche until it's making decent money. Then scale and keep focusing on that niche if it's a good one or after you start making money then start the next one.

Great advice. I hope people follow it, especially if they're my would be competitors.

HarrisonJ · 06-25-2009, 10:31 PM

I've had success with buying domain names that are exactly the medium search volume keywords I want to rank for, installing wordpress on them with a nice theme, writing 5 blog posts, putting an about and contact us page, then getting backlinks.

The goal of these sites is to rank for one medium search volume keyword each with their homepage, that targets a clickbank product.

It works well if you work on it.

niurkad · 06-25-2009, 10:46 PM

This is great feedback from all of you. I have picked up a few things.

supergirl · 06-25-2009, 11:02 PM

Thanks again to all.

5staraffiliateprograms, I know just where you're coming from. That's exactly what I've been thinking, that I should focus on one site/niche and work at it until I get it rolling before moving on to another.

I also like the idea of having several mini blogs (like other warriors here suggested) up and running at the same time too.

I came across a thread here the other day regarding a blog network. I forgot who started the thread.

But the idea is to have several blogs in the same niche linked together. I guess it would be like having your main blog (authority site) that links to other smaller blogs in that same niche.

I have to say that I really appreciate everyone's advice, suggestions and opinions. You all are so helpful.

Sincerely

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Keith Kogane BadMotherShutYourMouth War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The South, USA. Posts: 688 Thanks: 77 Thanked 780 Times in 160 Posts	Re: Successfully using blogs for your affilate marketing? How are you doing it? I use Yaab Wordpress plugin to pull RSS feeds with sites that come up with searches for my keyword. The post is just something like "Hey, haven't updated in a while, but I came across this and thought it was worth linking to. Don't forget we have great articles like XXX in and other ones about YYY and ZZZ in our archive. Anyway, if you check out the article below, be sure to leave a comment. REPOSTED LINK AND SUMMARY GOES HERE." The point is, after you quit posting QUALITY content to your blog, you set something like that up to continue posting on a regular basis. You notice that it will keep posting FRESH stuff via reposting other related content, AND it will keep backlinking your own earlier quality posts. Note that won't make much difference on your own blog, but if you regularly submit your RSS feeds to aggregators, those links will get picked up elsewhere. Continuous content + continuous backlink building = good. You won't have that problem of your blogs vanishing after 4 months if you do that. I haven't anyway. If anyone does decide to pursue my method above, I have an advanced tip, too. When I do those article intros, I use another plugin called Stray Random Quotes. I load that up with my target keywords and all my "good" posts and article titles I want to promote. That way, it's automatically randomizing what is linked to, and with what target keywords. Then you can forget about it, and it'll run itself for much longer than a few months. Hope that helps!
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supergirl Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Successfully using blogs for your affilate marketing? How are you doing it? Hey, I want to thank all you warriors for your help. And believe me, the information you've provided is very, very helpful. Thanks a bunch!!!!

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patricialin HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 220 Thanks: 24 Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking	Re: Successfully using blogs for your affilate marketing? How are you doing it? Hi Supergirl, Well, when you set up your brand new blog, it's always good to have content up between 5 to 10 posts for a start. Always make sure that these posts are keyword optimized. It's good to post just 1-2 pages as well. Then submit your site to web directories for a start to get your site indexed. From the beginning, you can actually start to monetize your posts and blogs with adsense, affiliate banners. (coz you never know who might come by your blog.) You can preschedule your posts so that everything is on autopilot mode. I recommend posting blog posts once every 5-7 days. Also drive traffic to your site by social bookmarking your posts. In fact there are many traffic generation strategies that you can apply to increase traffic to your blog. You can have as many blogs as you wish. If you were to preschedule your blog posts for like 6months or 1 year, it will be easier to manage. I believe that once you have successfully set up a blog, monetized your blog and blog posts, and covered content for 6months to a year, you can leave the blog on its own and perhaps monitor it once every month. You can start on the next blog once you are comfortable with leaving the current blog alone and on autopilot mode. I would think that quality content matters when making an affiliate blog successful. Be sure that your content is good, unique and also beneficial to your blog visitors. Also, promote only good affiliate products that even you believe it's too good to miss out on. and not just any product under the sun. Always think about how your web visitor will benefit from your site. I would say that those small blogs with little content and high traffic can last about a year. However, it really depends on the content. If the content is good like, "How To..." posts which will still generate traffic on its own when people search i.e. "how to fish" etc. , you can be sure that the site will still have traffic in the long run and still make continue to make sales though there aren't much activity.
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06-23-2009, 06:27 PM	#1
supergirl Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Successfully using blogs for your affilate marketing? How are you doing it? Can those of you who are successfully using blogs for your affiliate marketing please tell me this? 1. For a brand new blog, how many posts or pages should you have up and published before monetizing the blog with affiliate links? 2. I hear some people say they have 20, 50 or even 100's of blogs. I thought that with an affiliate blog, just like any other type blog, I guess, you'd have to continuously update them, providing new and fresh content almost daily, in order for them to be successful, otherwise it's dead. And how is it possible to successfully maintain that many blogs at one time? 3. What I want to do is have just a few affilate blogs, maybe 3 - 5, going at the same time. Once I get my first one up, how long should I wait until I start on the second one? 4. I'm thinking long term success for these blogs. What would make an affiliate blog successful? 5. There are some Warriors who say they put up a blog with a few posts just a few weeks ago, did many things to promote the blog (article marketing, pinging, social bookmarking, etc.) and are now making money from the blog. I'm just wondering how long your success lasts with such small blogs. Do you maintain these blogs or just put them up and move on to the next one? Thanks a bunch!

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Jim Phillips Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: , , USA. Posts: 55 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Successfully using blogs for your affilate marketing? How are you doing it? Hi Super, Different strokes for different folks. Figure your goal, write it down. How much time do you have to work your business each day? Draw up your plans from your time available. Get to work. Do it. Have fun. Follow your plan whether your building a blog a day or every other day. Tweak it as you go. Only action is going to put money in your pocket. Most important two words of advice I can give you. Do it. Then do it some more and don't stop. Best Regards, Jim PS. Help someone along the way. What goes around comes around.
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06-25-2009, 06:07 PM	#12
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06-25-2009, 11:02 PM	#17
supergirl Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Successfully using blogs for your affilate marketing? How are you doing it? Thanks again to all. 5staraffiliateprograms, I know just where you're coming from. That's exactly what I've been thinking, that I should focus on one site/niche and work at it until I get it rolling before moving on to another. I also like the idea of having several mini blogs (like other warriors here suggested) up and running at the same time too. I came across a thread here the other day regarding a blog network. I forgot who started the thread. But the idea is to have several blogs in the same niche linked together. I guess it would be like having your main blog (authority site) that links to other smaller blogs in that same niche. I have to say that I really appreciate everyone's advice, suggestions and opinions. You all are so helpful. Sincerely