Squidoo vs. Hubpages 2014

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Hello Everyone,
I am thinking about starting blogging about a variety of topics on either Squidoo or Hubpages - that is very general topics that vary a lot. I was wondering which you guys thought was better Squidoo or Hubpages or why.


And I plan on publishing ~1 article a day that would be decent quality and ~300 words, on average how long do you guys think it would take before I start seeing some earnings, or what was your own personal experience with this?
#2014 #hubpages #squidoo
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

    I am thinking about starting blogging about a variety of topics on either Squidoo or Hubpages
    Why?

    Why not do it on a page that you own and control rather than one which someone else owns and controls? And why would you want someone else "sharing with you" the income derived from your work?

    Here are all the reasons you shouldn't use Squidoo: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8109462

    And most of those reasons, in principle, apply to HubPages as well.

    Even some of the people who, as recently as a couple of years ago, were selling WSO's advising people on how best to use Squidoo, are now - finally! - warning people off and telling them to use their own websites instead (exactly as so many of us have been doing for rather longer than that).

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    • Profile picture of the author Niche Blogger
      Neither! Please don't waste your time posting on sites that aren't yours - they could be deleted at any time and they don't rank particularly well anymore anyway.

      It doesn't cost any more than about $20 to get a domain and hosting for a website of your own where you can do/write what you want.

      Your work will be yours and your own site will eventually be a valuable asset which you could potentially sell if you are getting consistent traffic and earnings.
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    • Profile picture of the author cpwebsite
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Why?

      Why not do it on a page that you own and control rather than one which someone else owns and controls? And why would you want someone else "sharing with you" the income derived from your work?

      Here are all the reasons you shouldn't use Squidoo: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8109462

      And most of those reasons, in principle, apply to HubPages as well.

      Even some of the people who, as recently as a couple of years ago, were selling WSO's advising people on how best to use Squidoo, are now - finally! - warning people off and telling them to use their own websites instead (exactly as so many of us have been doing for rather longer than that).

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      The reasons I have for wanting to use one of these services is I don't have the money to start my own website (and yes I know how cheap it is). And normally they do the marketing by promoting it on squidoo and normally they rank a little better. And also I've been banned from Adsense, and I have yet to see another good PPC advertising program that I could use as a substitute but they use adsense so I can get paid through them.


      I could save up my money and start my own website, but would it be useful to start a website that just has different general articles and also how long would it take to start earning money.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

        I don't have the money to start my own website
        You don't need any money to start your own website.

        You can get free hosting at Byethost, or Freehostia, or 000WebHost, and they'll even give you a free subdomain (just like Squidoo and HubPages will), if you can't afford to register a domain-name.

        Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

        yes I know how cheap it is
        Call me argumentative, but it seems not.

        Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

        normally they do the marketing by promoting it on squidoo
        Not on this planet. (Have you seen what Squidoo's like, since "the big collapse" a year or so ago? They can't even market their own pages sensibly, let alone yours.)

        Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

        normally they rank a little better
        I don't believe that, and it isn't really relevant, anyway.

        Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

        And also I've been banned from Adsense, and I have yet to see another good PPC advertising program that I could use as a substitute but they use adsense so I can get paid through them.
        You may have a point about AdSense (I've never used it).

        Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

        I could save up my money and start my own website
        Or you could do that without spending a penny? Up to you ...

        Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

        would it be useful to start a website that just has different general articles
        That's another matter altogether, but that question arises equally whether you have a self-hosted one or one that someone else owns and controls and takes a cut of the money, I think? I confess it doesn't seem to me to be a readily "monetizable plan". I hadn't appreciated, when I replied above, that you were thinking of AdSense.

        Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

        and also how long would it take to start earning money.
        That depends on how good you are at generating traffic, and how you monetize your site.

        Almost all my own income comes from traffic attracted to my sites by articles, but my visitors are "pre-targeted, non-SEO people" who've seen the articles on other sites, where they were already looking, where I've had my articles re-published after originally publishing them on my own sites. (And those other "other sites" are not article directories or Web 2.0 sites.)

        It's pretty difficult to attract traffic by publishing articles just on your own site. that isn't really a traffic-generation plan at all: it seems to me that the only traffic you can ever realistically hope to attract that way is a little, gradual, eventual search-engine traffic (and nobody's exactly getting rich from that ).

        I wish you nothing but good luck, but I think you should re-examine your plans and not let lack of initial funds prompt you to build a business of which you neither own nor control the web-pages: that's just a way of stacking the deck really firmly against yourself.
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      • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
        Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

        I've been banned from Adsense,
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        You will get banned again if google links a squidoo or hubpages account to you. Save your self the time and effort and find something else to promote like Amazon products. Set up a weebly account or something else free.

        Here is a true story with hubpages. I created a hub took pictures from inside my business that I used for hubpage page article. The article was non promotional and yet it was flagged as duplicate content. I wrote the article from scratch. The article and pictures no one else had access to. So how could of it been duplicate ??? Yet the hub was removed. I would never recommend hubpages again and squidoo is not worth the time.
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        • Profile picture of the author CACruiser
          Agree with above post. The greatest content can be deleted in a heartbeat. Take Alexa's advice, she kinda knows her stuff. You will be so much better off controlling YOUR website content and future.
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  • Profile picture of the author cjshu99
    I agree with others. Squidoo and Hubpages are kinda useless these days.

    Need a free website host? Why not use Blogger or Weebly? I have a website that is 6 years old on blogger that still gets seo traffic everyday.

    No more adsense? Try chitika, media.net, adclick media or admedia.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    I wouldn't waste my time, effort, or content on either one of those sites. HubPages was great for driving traffic to my blogs and squeeze pages back in 2009 and 2010 but now their rules are so strict it's damn near impossible to send any traffic to any of your sites from there, and FORGET about trying to promote Clickbank or any other affiliate products.

    Squidoo is not much better. They both got Google slapped so hard I think it damn near put them out of business, so in order to stay on Google's good side they have taken up an "anti-marketer" stance. They are basically looking for people to submit awesome content to them while they make all the money off of it.

    Whenever I hear people talking about putting in their hard work to produce great content and then giving it over for these sites to take advantage of it blows my mind.

    I'm sorry but if you can't come up with a $15 investment for a domain and a $10 investment to get some web hosting then how do you expect to become a successful Internet Marketer?

    There is absolutely no reason why anyone should base their business on one of these free platforms. It's so easy to create a self-hosted WordPress site these days. That's the way to go. Then you have full control over your content, you can promote whatever you like, and you never have to worry about someone else's stupid decisions ruining your hard work and income.
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  • Profile picture of the author cpwebsite
    But some of you guys who recommended to sign up for a free blogspot instead, can't blogspot also just take all your content by just shutting down your blog?
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

      But some of you guys who recommended to sign up for a free blogspot instead, can't blogspot also just take all your content by just shutting down your blog?
      The sure can. Early on in my IM "career" I started a Blogger blog, worked it up to PR4 with 500-700 uniques coming in per day just to log in one day to find Blogger had taken the blog down with no explanation at all. Never could figure out why. The blog was all original content, had very few affiliate links, and was not in any niche related to home biz/MMO.

      The point being is that if you are going to take the time to produce quality content the best thing to do is to publish it to your own web property that you have full control over.

      Seems like that's what everyone in this thread is telling you to do.
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      • Profile picture of the author realdealseo
        Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

        The sure can. Early on in my IM "career" I started a Blogger blog, worked it up to PR4 with 500-700 uniques coming in per day just to log in one day to find Blogger had taken the blog down with no explanation at all. Never could figure out why. The blog was all original content, had very few affiliate links, and was not in any niche related to home biz/MMO.

        The point being is that if you are going to take the time to produce quality content the best thing to do is to publish it to your own web property that you have full control over.

        Seems like that's what everyone in this thread is telling you to do.
        Agree completely with all of this,

        Blogger, over-blog, wordpress, weebly all can build up good PR pretty quick but they should be used as Tier 1 support websites. Never as your main money website.

        Regards,

        RDS
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

      can't blogspot also just take all your content by just shutting down your blog?
      Yes, very much so, and very commonly - well spotted.

      Blogspot is, in fact, particularly hazardous because they can shut down all your blogs as part of an automated process, without "human review" (i.e. without even a conscious decision being made, to do so), and there's no right of appeal or anything of the kind.

      Don't imagine this is rare, either. It's happened to hundreds of people here. (Remarkably), it's even happened to some of the people who still advise others to start off with pages at Blogspot!

      This thread will tell you what you need to know about that.

      Blogger/Blogspot is no safer than wordpress.com.

      This is why I recommended Byethost, Freehostia and 000WebHost for completely free sites, which you yourself own and control.

      Originally Posted by cpwebsite View Post

      But some of you guys who recommended to sign up for a free blogspot instead ...
      One of the difficult but important things about which to develop judgement, when asking for advice in a forum, is whose advice to take. Here's what very experienced, very successful, senior Warrior Martin Avis says on the subject: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8367487 (he's someone I always listen to, myself, and you should, too ).


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  • Profile picture of the author foxtrot3
    Looks like everyone who has posted in this thread has told you that Squidoo is a complete waste of time, now including me. Are you listening?
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  • Profile picture of the author sharpturn
    I have to agree with Alexa and the others.

    When I first started out all my content was on Squidoo, Hubpages and Blogger. Guess what happened when Google made their infamous algo changes.........yep, I lost everything and there was nothing I could do about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author raffman999
    Squidoo Vs Hubpages; it's a bit like asking who's the fastest snail!

    Build your own site and post there; that way you own the site and you don't share the profits.

    Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author verion
      Originally Posted by raffman999 View Post

      Squidoo Vs Hubpages; it's a bit like asking who's the fastest snail!

      Build your own site and post there; that way you own the site and you don't share the profits.

      Hope this helps.
      Yes i completely agree with raffman999 is the best way to post your quality content to your own site, is the most effective way. Use Squidoo, Hubpages etc only for backlinking your site
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by verion View Post

        Use Squidoo, Hubpages etc only for backlinking your site
        Not even for that, I'm afraid ... all Squidoo off-site backlinks are no-follow, and your Hub-page might not last for long, if that's its main purpose.


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        • Profile picture of the author verion
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Not even for that, I'm afraid ... all Squidoo off-site backlinks are no-follow, and your Hub-page might not last for long, if that's its main purpose.


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          Does not mean that you must use this two sites for backlinking your own, are so many others over to the internet.. But in any way in my point-view the best thing is posting your content to your site ( think if Squidoo shut down with their services? Then? All your content go into the trash man while with your own site you can take it for life if you want
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    300 word articles? I'm not even sure if you can write a complete article that's full of alot of really good info in 300 words. But, i'm not saying it isn't possible, because i have seen quite a few that are really good.

    Secondly... Squidoo? Hubpages? Lol come on, do yourself a favor and place your content on your own site. I understand that you want to do free marketing and get customers for free - but these sites wont help you do it.
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