Getting more discouraged by the hour

[gianne2705]

As i advice you,always have patience and continue working hard in achieving your goal.I agree,30 days is not too long but i guess just a start in making your step to earn money.

[GeorgR.]

even "proven" methods need time. 30 Days? Sometimes it would need 2 weeks just for a simple article to appear in a directory....or a site being ranked. When i started i took me a year until i saw my first pennies come in. Nothing in IM is "instant" usually...its a long way to go, trial/error/learning.

[FredFarnes]

One month and one niche are not enough. You need more of both.

Also stop believing the WSO marketing tripe. Whatever they say to get your money is not to be believed. Making money in IM takes time, money, experience, and it is very competitive.

Do not give up, try harder. Or failure is guaranteed.

[havefunandlive]

Originally Posted by FredFarnes

One month and one niche are not enough. You need more of both.

Also stop believing the WSO marketing tripe. Whatever they say to get your money is not to be believed. Making money in IM takes time, money, experience, and it is very competitive.

Do not give up, try harder. Or failure is guaranteed.

Thanks. So at least I'm on the right track when I say I need more niches.

I try to only buy WSO's if they're reasonably priced and have good reviews from other warriors.

The WSO's I've bought weren't the usual "You'll earn 6,000 dollars in 15 days!" though. They were strictly research based WSO's. Things like reports that give information for keyword research or methods to gaining traffic to clickbank links.

I think I've had my share of WSO's for now, though. I don't need anymore for now.

[warriorkevin]

Why does everyone say 30 days is not enough?

Is this for people who use article marketing?

I think 30 days for your first sale is way too long.

But I have never written an article for these article sites and I usually sell only my own products.

I have NO LIST. (In fact that is my problem right now, is that I need to learn how to start a list from scratch.)

You may not make tons, but you should be making sales.

I use adwords and I find missed keywords (ones that people search for but no one is bidding on), so I pay 5-10 cents and $1-$2 a day limit. You may spend $20-$50 a month depending on how many keywords or how broad of choices you use. But you need to make sure that 1-2 sales will offset that. Making more than breakeven should not be a problem.

I have done this with every product I have launched. Some I launched 4-5 years ago and have never touched and I still make sales. In fact, now instead of adwords, most of my products are found on page 1 if not result 1 for my keywords.

I am just saying, there are a LOT of ways to do things. Start by giving yourself a leg up by finding something easier to sell. Then repeat and find ways to improve your results.

Not to dis the warrior forum, but take a break from WSO's. You'll only be distracted and thrown into another direction. If you need to buy something, make sure it is VERY related to what you are doing, not something else you might want to try. just saying....

kevin

[magnusmora]

Kevin, your last point is a good one. I am a bit of an impulse buyer and have bought WSO after WSO. Your right, you need to step back, put a plan together and implement. I have been buidling websites for years, however I have been doing IM for the last 3 months, its only in the last month that I decided to sit down, put a proper plan together and actually implement it.

I found using a mind map with my main website in the middle and then all the buble activities around it really helped me build a plan.

Anyway got my first Click bank sale about a week ago. My adsense is pretty rubbish, average about $1 a week!! But hey, a few dollars here and their keeps the motivation going. The main thing is that it is moving in the right direction. I am going to concentrate on this one project until I am happy I have followed it through to the end. I suspect that in reality it will take a good 3 months before its complete. Hopefully if my plan works, I will repeat adding what I have learnt on this project.

Cheers Steve

WSO can easily distract you.

[thomashoi]

The registry problems niche is very competitive and many affiliates lost money.

Unless you are very specific to what your target audience really wants, I advise you to choose another niche.

Another reason is that "registry fix" programs can be easily downloaded for free and so most people are not willing to pay for it.

If you just observe google hot trend, pick a hot keyword and blog about it with adsense, you should be able to make your first $1 fast.

[thomashoi]

Originally Posted by magnusmora

Kevin, your last point is a good one. I am a bit of an impulse buyer and have bought WSO after WSO. Your right, you need to step back, put a plan together and implement. I have been buidling websites for years, however I have been doing IM for the last 3 months, its only in the last month that I decided to sit down, put a proper plan together and actually implement it.

I found using a mind map with my main website in the middle and then all the buble activities around it really helped me build a plan.

Anyway got my first Click bank sale about a week ago. My adsense is pretty rubbish, average about $1 a week!! But hey, a few dollars here and their keeps the motivation going. The main thing is that it is moving in the right direction. I am going to concentrate on this one project until I am happy I have followed it through to the end. I suspect that in reality it will take a good 3 months before its complete. Hopefully if my plan works, I will repeat adding what I have learnt on this project.

Cheers Steve

WSO can easily distract you.

So many newbies focus on website building with the bells and whistles, driving traffic,
competition spy but none focus on the content! it's no wonder why so many
newbies fails badly.

[ramone_johnny]

Originally Posted by havefunandlive

I've been trying for a few weeks now and still haven't seen any results for all of my hard work.

Sorry if I come across a little gruff, but seriouly, a FEW WEEKS??????

You have to be kidding right. I have invested the last 6 years of my life, pulling 15 hour days, almost every day, week after week, month after month, year after year to get where I am today, and you're whinging about no results after a few weeks????

[kurt naulaerts]

I understand very well how you feel!

What does a newbie have to think when another email, often coming from a so called guru, lands in his inbox and promoting another wealth generating product???

Let me give an example. I just searched the clickbank marketplace, money and employment, entrepreneur.

What is the first "high gravity" product???

CopynProfit!

What does the sales letter say?

-> "Copy our exact campaigns that make up to $94,000 every 30 days on autopilot"

And what about the testimonials. Hey, these are real people, right??!!!

-> "made 12 sales immediately", "In the first week I made 5 sales for a little over $109"


What is the second high gravity product?

TurboCashGenerator

What does the sales letter say?

-> "The Internet's Fastest, Easiest And Laziest 'Plug-And-Play' Software For Making Immediate Money Online With Twitter...Introducing...

The killer software that makes me $3,000 every day using twitter


Using The Power Of Twitter And This Plug-And-Play Software You Have An Automated Money Machine That Can't Stop Sending You Cash...Even If You Want It To!

Click Here To Start Making Money From Home TODAY!"


Do I have to continue????

What loser is not able to make money online fast??????

[Alex Taylor]

If you've only had 30 hops in 30 days you have no idea if it's selling. Wait until you have at least 200/300, then you can make a call.

Also, since you've only had 30 hops, you're most immediate problem is traffic. So focus entirely on that instead of looking for other models or other products to promote.

Write as many articles as you can. It's boring and tedious, but always brings pretty quick traffic.

[Tyrus Antas]

Originally Posted by havefunandlive

I've tried paying for a host and making a wordpress blog
...
I've tried writing a series of articles

Mindset is your problem. That's not how you run a business. Writing a series of articles? You're not even scratching the surface.

For how much time have you been building your online assets? Do you have a newsletter? Do you have a blog people want to visit? Do you have a social profile(not the spammy type, a real social profile)? How much networking have you done? What value do you have to offer? If you answer nothing, how can you find and build value to offer?

You're not building a business, you're chasing an opportunity.

Tyrus

[xiaophil]

Have you tried getting into a new niche? maybe the niche you are in just doesn't get alot of traffic.

1. Do you know how much traffic your niche has? ... It may be your niche has not got enough traffic, if so move on to another niche.

Does a niche 'get traffic'? Maybe we're talking about search queries. Web sites get traffic.

The words 'registry cleaner' and associated keywords get millions of search queries per month according to Google.

Another reason is that "registry fix" programs can be easily downloaded for free and so most people are not willing to pay for it.

Well, it has very safe and powerful alternatives that are more popular and are free.

No matter how good the product is that you're trying to market, it cannot compete with FREE.

I wouldn't be too worried about this.

One of the affiliate products I promote contains a large proportion of information which can be found on the web for free. The value is in how the product has been aggregated, packaged and presented - there are many info products based on public domain material which sell very well.

Also, many people perceive a free product (especially something critical like antivirus or registry software) as having a lower quality. This is almost logical as if something is free it has no value right?

Adsense, I believe ... gives people a way to leave your blog rather than staying there.

Absolutely. It's hard enough getting them there in the first place, so why display a device designed to repel them?

It's better if they leave through your affiliate link, yes?

I started doing research into other niches and found some that are potentially untapped.

By 'untapped' do you mean there are few or no products selling?
That may be for a reason.

The only small problem with that is, in my past experience working at a retail store, the general public hates being up-sold on stuff.

No one likes it but it works, would you like fries with that?

2. Do you target the right keywords, the ones that attract people looking to buy?

I had a quick look and there appears to be a number of keywords that would imply some urgency on the part of the searcher.

Also some from obvious freebie seekers, which are probably better avoided.

3. Does your web site suck? Sorry, most web sites do suck. Redesign and test to see what improves your outcome.

Is it a straight blog? Have you done any product comparisons or reviews?

Point 2 is very easy and obvious, but someone else brought it up. The average age of my audience in this niche is somewhere around 50.

Could I ask how you determined that?

The registry problems niche is very competitive and many affiliates lost money.

Lost money? PPC right?

There are other ways to test a niche for next to nothing. Throw up a web site with some reviews and articles, slap on analytics and do a few bookmarks and links. See which long tail keywords start trickling in and use that topic for fresh content. Ready, fire, aim.

[EmmaJames]

Don't beat yourself up for buying different WSO's, I've
done the same thing.

BUT I've learned something from each one. And now,
combined, I use a bunch of different techniques to
make money.

Knowledge IS power. There were times I had to go
back and re-read some of the SEO stuff I've gotten
but it really through me for a loop.

But keep at it. I've made pretty decent money and
everyday I find new ideas here to increase my bottom
line.

You gotta play around with things until you find something
that really clicks for you. That's just the nature of the beast.

While some are Twitter superstars others are masters at
flipping websites and others master copywriting.

My point here is keep at it. We've all been discouraged.

You are not alone. Just feel what you feel and then move
on from it. Don't let it consume you.

You'll be alright...

[nuz]

Happy Independence Day To All

I just wanted to add that I've just started in February of this year and I have not made a dime yet.

What I am learning and that I want to pass on is, you are on the right track if this computer info is something you know, but you need to go to Google keywords tool and type in your keyword and find what is the most searched words in that category and make your articles and blogs/sites about that word or phrase.

Give the customer exactly what they ask for (the keyword) and then push whatever you have to sell on them.

It's not necessarily the niche, it's how you present it.

Hope this helps

[igorhelpsyousucceed]

Originally Posted by havefunandlive

I've been trying for a few weeks now and still haven't seen any results for all of my hard work.

I've tried paying for a host and making a wordpress blog, didn't make a dime in adsense or clickbank.

I've tried writing a series of articles (and buying a .info domain for my affiliate link) and trying to raise them to the top of the google keyword searches using backlinks -- only 1 has made it to the front page (not that it's getting any views), the others either don't appear at all or are in places where they wouldn't get any views anyway.

I've researched all day and all night, buying different WSO's, thinking they would help, but I'm still in the same position.

I have very very few hops on clickbank.

In the last 30 days, I've had about 30 clickbank hops.

I'm losing money here.

What could be the problem? Is it my niche?

It's computer repair, specifically registry problems on the computer.

There is no problem. Stop whining.

The thing is that most marketers, just like you(sorry if I am being harsh)
are writing few articles, couple of squidoo lenses, get a blog set up and sit there
waiting for thei clickbank account to explode.

It is not going to happen.

What you need to do is to write 3-5 articles a day for 4-6 month
and than look back and review.

Marketing demands persistence! There is no easy, lottery ticket kind of success in this undustry, Sorry.

Igor

[Adrian Cooper]

Originally Posted by havefunandlive

I've been trying for a few weeks now and still haven't seen any results for all of my hard work.

I've tried paying for a host and making a wordpress blog, didn't make a dime in adsense or clickbank.

I've tried writing a series of articles (and buying a .info domain for my affiliate link) and trying to raise them to the top of the google keyword searches using backlinks -- only 1 has made it to the front page (not that it's getting any views), the others either don't appear at all or are in places where they wouldn't get any views anyway.

I've researched all day and all night, buying different WSO's, thinking they would help, but I'm still in the same position.

I have very very few hops on clickbank.

In the last 30 days, I've had about 30 clickbank hops.

I'm losing money here.

What could be the problem? Is it my niche?

It's computer repair, specifically registry problems on the computer.

The only way to make money quickly in IM is using PPC, but PPC is also a good way of losing money quickly.

If you are building your IM business organically, you need to take a 12 month view to reach the point where you can concentrate on it full time.

Computers are a touch niche.

One mistake most new IM'ers make is to promote something that excites them as opposed to finding and verifying the market first. Of course if there is a market for something you are passionate about, and there often is, then go for it - your success likelihood has increased dramatically.

[Hesaidblissfully]

Originally Posted by havefunandlive

Ah, thanks. informative and encouraging.

There seems to be a split in who thinks what's better on warrior forum.

Some people are saying to build a list with a squeeze page (people like Joe Mack) and other people are saying that wordpress blogs are better.

Interesting...

They're both right, depending on what you're promoting and how. Building a list is generally the best way to go, because it allows you to follow up with people and make multiple sales over time.

However, if you have something like a Wordpress product review blog set up, where people come to your site because they're looking for information about a specific product before they buy, those people may not be interested in getting further information about the topic. They just want to know if the product is good. That's not to say you couldn't tweak it by offering them information about related topics they might be interested in, but product review sites are usually set up for one time sales of specific products.

On the other hand, if you have a blog about a broad subject like dating, weight loss, self-improvement, stock trading, etc. then having an opt-in box and newsletter is great because people who visit the blog will probably want further information on the topic.

As for the registry repair niche, that was where I made my first Clickbank sales. One thing I'll say is to consider the difference in mindset between a person who has an actual PROBLEM with their computer where they're getting registry errors and it's interfering with their work, versus a person who just wants to make their computer run a little faster.

If you're going to do that niche, you want to target people who want the problem solved now. It could be that if you're focusing on people who want their computers to run a bit faster, they just don't have the same level of urgency where they'll purchase a product right away.

In this niche, you ultimately want to write your material around keywords that:

1. Have a decent amount of searches.

2. Are "desperate buyer" keywords - meaning "I want this problem solved today!" instead of "Yeah, this is sort of annoying, I guess...i should probably do something about it."

3. Are rankable, meaning they should be fairly easy to rank on the first page of search results, based on competition.

Good luck!