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Old 06-26-2009, 05:16 AM   #1
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Default Is anyone buying anything anymore from Clickbank?

I advertised to very targeted list of 18,000 people on a niche, the newest product ebook from Clickbank, that was very good value for its money.

I had 197 hops (clicks on the link), the product has a gravity of over 500 so it is very very well sold by others we can assume, and NO SALES

What is happening?

What can be the reason?
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The list is sick of all the hype for 'the latest thing'? They may be on multiple lists and have had it lots of times?

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Old 06-26-2009, 05:53 AM   #3
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The list is sick of all the hype for 'the latest thing'? They may be on multiple lists and have had it lots of times?
Yes, maybe you should try with a good product in the same category that has a lower gravity.
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Default Re: Is anyone buying anything anymore from Clickbank?

Many things could be happening... your email copy could be too aggressive and be putting people off... your list has already seen that particular product (or even, have it already), you could have an audience that isn't predisposed to buy... etc.

You need to tweak and try many things before you come to the conclusion that something doesn't sell, but if it doesn't, then it doesn't. The most I can tell you personally is that I see CB products selling regularly so CB itself is doing fine. Keep improving that offer.

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Old 06-26-2009, 07:29 AM   #5
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the product has a gravity of over 500
For me, that would be a reason to keep away from it.

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Old 06-26-2009, 07:39 AM   #6
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the product has a gravity of over 500 so it is very very well sold by others
That's that answered.

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What is happening?

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There's a new thread every day on here asking the same thing. 200 hops, no sales. It happens, hops are clicks, there's people on the end of them clicks, making their own decisions about what they do and don't need.

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I advertised to very targeted list of 18,000 people on a niche, the newest product ebook from Clickbank, that was very good value for its money.

I had 197 hops (clicks on the link), the product has a gravity of over 500 so it is very very well sold by others we can assume, and NO SALES

What is happening?

What can be the reason?
You could say that it has to do with such a high gravity.....BUT, before you dismiss it as a gravity issue, try this:

Since you are selling to a list, tweak one of your sales messages in your autoresponder...Replace your current sales e-mail with entirely new copy and see if your results have improved. Take the time to review how you are currently selling in your message and see if you can appeal better to your readers wants/needs.

If you try it, let us know how it goes!

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Default Re: Is anyone buying anything anymore from Clickbank?

If all you got was 197 clicks on a list of 18,000 sounds like something is wrong on your end.
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:23 AM   #9
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Default Re: Is anyone buying anything anymore from Clickbank?

Usually when you buy a solo ad on someone's list, it is very much possible that very few or even no one will buy.

Reason: You are not the only one using that list. Maybe there are many others and when a subscriber gets a lot of offers, they tend to buy the very first one. The one thing that you do need to do is to get your OWN list and build trust with them.

There is a guy online who specializes in this. His name is Terry Dean. He is an internet business coach and you can learn a lot from him.

Internet Business Coaching by Terry Dean

I am not associated with him at all but I really believe that he can help anyone online with a home business and taking it to the next level.

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Old 06-26-2009, 08:23 AM   #10
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I advertised to very targeted list of 18,000 people on a niche, the newest product ebook from Clickbank, that was very good value for its money.

I had 197 hops (clicks on the link), the product has a gravity of over 500 so it is very very well sold by others we can assume, and NO SALES

What is happening?

What can be the reason?
I'd say the first problem is you only have just above a 1% click-through rate. It should be much higher for click-through...

Like others have suggested, your email isn't doing it's job. You need to rewrite the email.

But before you do that, were did you get the 18,000 targeted list? That could be your problem as well... If this list is legitimate the owner should be able to tell you the average click-through rate for the last 30 days. I'd be curious to see what that average rate is.

If the list owner cannot tell you the average click-through rate then there is something wrong...

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Default Re: Is anyone buying anything anymore from Clickbank?

Collectively, most of what is said is all true, except for the one that says its a reason to stay away from Clickbank. That's way off the mark.

Promoting the hottest item being promoted by the biggest marketers is never a good idea, because the big marketers are getting to them first.

So I agree that it is best to find a quality product, with a lower gravity, and promote that. But first, you have to spend a dime and verify the quality of the product -- unless of course you don't care if you p*** off your list and get a lot of returns.

So, clickbank is still an excellent marketplace, but you might try paydotcom because items there are very good, but not as heavily promoted.

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Default Re: Is anyone buying anything anymore from Clickbank?

Chances are that a lot of these 18,000 targeted people are also on the lists of other marketers. If that is true, it could be that if this product is so popular, these people are being bombarded with emails telling them how good this product is. If people get emails about the same product over and over again, they'll either:
  1. ignore those emails or
  2. buy the product if they really need it, since a lot of people are recommending it

If it's the second case, let's say they read your email and check out the product and they start thinking about buying it. Then they get an email from someone else promoting the same product and click on their hop link to read the salespage again. From this point on, if they buy the product, the commission will go to the second person who sent the email, not you, unless they click on your link again...

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For me, that would be a reason to keep away from it.
Gravity of 500 – that's a lot of competition, a lot, I would also stay away.


Another question – how well does your product correspond to your targeted niche?

For example, if your targeted niche topic is on improving golf swing, and the ebook you're selling is a guide on different swing techniques, then there's a problem there. Since the people on your list want to improve their golf swing and all you're offering is an e-book on various golf swing techniques, they won't buy the book because it doesn't solve their problem.

Just a few ideas...
Hope it's helpful,
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Well perhaps your leads knows that your email is salesly, moreover if you send the same email from merchants it will be saturated.

However, I got 123 clicks from organic traffic and no sales, the same as your.
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gravity 500 means that 500 USDollars in sales were made by affiliates in the last month? or what exactly?
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:52 AM   #15
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gravity 500 means that 500 USDollars in sales were made by affiliates in the last month? or what exactly?
No it means that in the past 30 days, 500 different affiliates have made at least one sale of that product.

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If all you got was 197 clicks on a list of 18,000 sounds like something is wrong on your end.
I agree, I have a much smaller list but I usually get clickthroughs of around 10% (which is still probably not the greatest, but I don't enjoy email marketing so don't do it much). Still I would be expecting a much higher ctr that that.

What was your open rate?

Did you get any unsubscribes when you sent the promo out? It's natural to get some unsubscribes, but getting a lot means you might be too pushy or salesy.

Instead of trying to sell your list something, why not offer them some help making money online. Write an email with some good tips in it and put something like 'this is just one of the great tips from xyz - if you would like to find out more click here' or whatever.

HTH
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it means that in the past 30 days, 500 different affiliates have made at least one sale of that product.
No, I'm afraid not: it's not quite as simple as that.

First, it's 8 weeks, not 30 days.

Secondly, as you can see from Clickbank's own explanation of the term "gravity", gravity is a weighted sum rather than an actual total. For each affiliate paid a sales commission over the previous 8 weeks, they add an amount between 0.1 and 1.0 to the gravity figure, the size of that amount being proportional to how recent the sale was. So if an item has had very steady, constant affiliate-referred sales throughout the last 8 weeks, the average amount represented in that total per affiliate-referred sale will be 0.45 (the average of 0.1 and 1.0) and the number of affiliate-referred sales will be just over 1,100, not 500.

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It could be the time of year summer.Alot of poeple are out and about right now enjoying the weather.On account of that unless you are selling a product on how to cure a sunburn in 10 munites you might have to wait till fall when every thing will pick up.
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No it means that in the past 30 days, 500 different affiliates have made at least one sale of that product.

Thanks for sharing that, I was misled as to what gravity meant. I thought it meant the number of sales total in a certain time period...Did not know the part about 500 different affiliates part..
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