Do smart people lose and dumb people win in IM?

[runfast]

OK Warriors I'm putting my Life out here on the Line...but here's something that I noticed on Warrior Forum discussions.

Most Newbies 1 year or less have been struggling to earn anything online. While I started making money within 30 days or less.
I think it is because I'm dumb. I only have 8 grade of education and a GED. Dumb people have to work harder then smart people. I know nothing about HTML, ways to drive traffic, getting higher page ranks, SQL etc. etc. etc...


Here's what I did earning money using Clickbank:

1. Find a subject that I want to promote on Clickbank.
2. Created Articles using www.needanaricle.com
3. Using Hostgator I created subdomains under a common domain (example: paidsurvey-secrets.com/surveystorage....)
4. I run PPC ads in Yahoo and MSN since everyone else is using Google Awords.
5. Bids start at $1.00 per click and wait 3-5 days and drop off to $0.30 per click.
6. If I don't get any clicks I build links using USFreeads, Squidoo and etc.
7. If I get a sale I build more links and add contact forms for list building.
8. The bad site I leave up and running and make sure that the Adsense is turned on. (I amazed at random sales that I get from this)
9. I go back to Step Number One.
10. I sleep like crazy and work my tail off.

Now here's the Dumb part in me. I do this over and over. I made 15 Worpress Sites in 20 days.
If I was smart I would have try to figure out how to drive more traffic to my good selling website. I would have spents hours analyizing page ranks, visitors, conversions, and other "words" I don't know what they mean or what they do...

I'm probably too dumb to be a multi-millionare from IM but this sure looks more promising then Social Security and 401k. I'm only 31 so I figured that if I average 2 new websites per week for the next 30 years. I will have over 3,000 Websites. Right now I average $50 a week for every 20 websites that I put together. So when I do the math it looks like my passive income will exceed my Social Security check. (Hopefully)
One thing you smart ones have over me is that you don't have to work so hard....I think I'll go take a nap now..zzz

Best of Luck to all those that are Broke and trying to make it using IM.

PS. Excuse my grammar...I only have 8 grades of education.

[markquinn]

I think there's a lot of truth to what you're saying here.

I'm constantly seeing smart people overthinking everything and finding possible ways that things can go wrong or "why they won't work" or trying to do things "better" than a system that's laid out for them that ALREADY works.

[TLTheLiberator]

Looks like you're going to have a whole bunch of web properties.

That's certainly one way to skin the cat.

Looks like you found a system that works for you.

As soon as you get to the income level you desire perhaps you can then start building sites etc. for quality and more long term income and start looking for ways to cut down on your personal workload and still make great money.

But that's up to you.

All The Best!!

TL

Ps. I hope they are not wordpress.com sites cause they may delete that site at any moment.

[JAIDEEP2959]

I don't think that $50 a week should be treated as a success.

Lot of hard work need to be done.

[MichaelHiles]

I know many successful people in IM that are incredibly intelligent.

The difference is in not getting sucked into paralysis by analysis, and knowing what detail is important and what is just additional stuff that's nice to know but not pertaining to the purpose.

The real, core issue with people, smart or dumb, is action.

[TMG Enterprises]

Uneducated does not mean that you are dumb.

Tina G

[Marc Jager]

It almost sounds like you are joking.
Still i doubt you'll have to keep working so hard.
I mean, even now you could write a detailed "how to" of how you made $xx in xx days and sell that as a guide....
I'm sure with time you'll tweak this and tweak that and find you're making more and more as you find what works and what doesn't in a kind of trial and error manner...

[runfast]

Originally Posted by JAIDEEP2959

I don't think that $50 a week should be treated as a success.

Lot of hard work need to be done.

Groan...Hard work? I've been doing that for a long time. But actually I enjoy doing things the hard way. I actually WORKED for my money not inherited it. I do know that I sleep really well at night.
If all goes as planned I should be making over $7,000 per week when I turn 60.

[David.M]

Mind me asking why you only have 8 years of edu?

Anyways, with that kind of mindset you will be dumb. If you say I'm dumb then your going to be dumb lol.

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by runfast

Now here's the Dumb part in me. I do this over and over. I made 15 Worpress Sites in 20 days.

Play beat the clock.

There is absolutely no reason you can't put up half a dozen WordPress sites every day. At the end of the week, you're making another $75 a week.

Fast forward one year later, you're making $3900 a week. That's over $15,600 a month. You have what everyone else wants. Kick back and relax.

Of course, you also have over 1500 blogs...

[jimh1626]

Ah but how much will $7,000 be worth in 29 years?

Jim

[runfast]

Originally Posted by David.M

Mind me asking why you only have 8 years of edu?

Anyways, with that kind of mindset you will be dumb. If you say I'm dumb then your going to be dumb lol.

I grew up in a conservative home where we attended a private school with 8 grade of education. I got a GED at 16. (I was the youngest one)
I love Math and Science. I also love reading and learning to know people.
Going to school I was actually 2 grades ahead of my peers. But I never went on to high school or college. I grew up on a large livestock farm so that is where I learned to work.

I see your thought "with that kind of mindset you will be dumb. If you say I'm dumb then your going to be dumb" but I'm a very positive dumb person. One of my mottos is: "Whoever makes the most mistakes wins"
The reason I like to say that I'm dumb is that it gives me the courage to keep on learning. If I was smart there wouldn't be anything new to learn but as long as I'm "dumb" I have no where else to go but to get on WF and learn from the Pros.

I appreciate your response...thanks

[runfast]

Originally Posted by jimh1626

Ah but how much will $7,000 be worth in 29 years?

Jim

Don't know but how much will we be getting from Clickbank by then?

[jakesellers]

Experience and intelligence can be a liability. A friend of mine wanted me to do some coding for a project he was putting together - I said I'd do it but I thought it was an idiotic idea and a waste of time. I'd seen variations on the theme fail repeatedly, and his spin on it was based on inaccurate information and ignored serious technological blockers. Lo and behold, at its peak it pulled $2k a day (albeit from an unexpected source of traffic) and would pull $2k on a bad week.

[jasonl70]

As pointed out, some people just over analyze things and make everything much more difficult then it needs to be.
My friends and I (all techies) all missed out on the dot com craziness because we were to busy analyzing ideas to death instead of taking action. It's a tough pattern to break..

[runfast]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Play beat the clock.

There is absolutely no reason you can't put up half a dozen WordPress sites every day. At the end of the week, you're making another $75 a week.

Fast forward one year later, you're making $3900 a week. That's over $15,600 a month. You have what everyone else wants. Kick back and relax.

Of course, you also have over 1500 blogs...

Thanks, Don't get me too excited...

[C.B. Stewart]

Originally Posted by jasonl70

As pointed out, some people just over analyze things and make everything much more difficult then it needs to be.
My friends and I (all techies) all missed out on the dot com craziness because we were to busy analyzing ideas to death instead of taking action. It's a tough pattern to break..

I agree with this 100%.

I have always felt that people with above-average intelligence are more likely to fail at Internet marketing. This is just because what actually works and sells always seems counter-intuitive, and the extra-intelligent folks spend too much time analyzing instead of acting.

[runfast]

FYI: The Clickbank check showed up in the mail today. $210.93 Working hard does pay off...even for us ignorant ones...

[Adrian Cooper]

Originally Posted by MichaelHiles

I know many successful people in IM that are incredibly intelligent.

The difference is in not getting sucked into paralysis by analysis, and knowing what detail is important and what is just additional stuff that's nice to know but not pertaining to the purpose.

The real, core issue with people, smart or dumb, is action.

Anyone can succeed in IM, but only if approached as a business and the right Mindset.

By Mindset I do not mean intelligence per se, but in a deeper sense.

[Ron.]

It seems like your effort would be better spent creating 1 or 2 great long term businesses......

[Ron.]

WOW.....here in Chicago you MIGHT be able to pay for parking for a few days with that.

Originally Posted by runfast

FYI: The Clickbank check showed up in the mail today. $210.93 Working hard does pay off...even for us ignorant ones...

[InternetMarketingIQ]

How would a dumb person know what a smart person is capable of accomplishing? Replication only works to a point. At some point managing a massive amount of sites becomes a burden... it's called the "Law of Diminishing Returns".

Focus on what you know is working until it stops working.

[Adrian Cooper]

Originally Posted by Ron.

It seems like your effort would be better spent creating 1 or 2 great long term businesses......

It is the only way to go.

It is impossible - almost anyway - to focus on more than one, two, maybe three businesses at once.

Multiple domains, multiple sites is one of the very biggest fallacies and reasons for failure out there.

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by runfast

OK Warriors I'm putting my Life out here on the Line...but here's something that I noticed on Warrior Forum discussions.

Most Newbies 1 year or less have been struggling to earn anything online. While I started making money within 30 days or less.
I think it is because I'm dumb. I only have 8 grade of education and a GED. Dumb people have to work harder then smart people. I know nothing about HTML, ways to drive traffic, getting higher page ranks, SQL etc. etc. etc...


Here's what I did earning money using Clickbank:

1. Find a subject that I want to promote on Clickbank.
2. Created Articles using www.needanaricle.com
3. Using Hostgator I created subdomains under a common domain (example: paidsurvey-secrets.com/surveystorage....)
4. I run PPC ads in Yahoo and MSN since everyone else is using Google Awords.
5. Bids start at $1.00 per click and wait 3-5 days and drop off to $0.30 per click.
6. If I don't get any clicks I build links using USFreeads, Squidoo and etc.
7. If I get a sale I build more links and add contact forms for list building.
8. The bad site I leave up and running and make sure that the Adsense is turned on. (I amazed at random sales that I get from this)
9. I go back to Step Number One.
10. I sleep like crazy and work my tail off.

Now here's the Dumb part in me. I do this over and over. I made 15 Worpress Sites in 20 days.
If I was smart I would have try to figure out how to drive more traffic to my good selling website. I would have spents hours analyizing page ranks, visitors, conversions, and other "words" I don't know what they mean or what they do...

I'm probably too dumb to be a multi-millionare from IM but this sure looks more promising then Social Security and 401k. I'm only 31 so I figured that if I average 2 new websites per week for the next 30 years. I will have over 3,000 Websites. Right now I average $50 a week for every 20 websites that I put together. So when I do the math it looks like my passive income will exceed my Social Security check. (Hopefully)
One thing you smart ones have over me is that you don't have to work so hard....I think I'll go take a nap now..zzz

Best of Luck to all those that are Broke and trying to make it using IM.

PS. Excuse my grammar...I only have 8 grades of education.

Originally Posted by MichaelHiles

I know many successful people in IM that are incredibly intelligent.

The difference is in not getting sucked into paralysis by analysis, and knowing what detail is important and what is just additional stuff that's nice to know but not pertaining to the purpose.

The real, core issue with people, smart or dumb, is action.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I do too, and I'm one of those "smart" guys. I spent way too much time putting my brains to work for other people. I struggle working for myself in 2 ways:

1. I find it hard to work as HARD for myself as I will for someone else. I don't know why that is.

2. I will often not take action on things due to the idea never being good enough or just needs a little bit more extra something. I DO know why I do this - a lot of IM people call it "paralysis by analysis" but I know it as the Fallacy of Information.

The trap is that you often continue to pursue much more information than is necessary to make the decisions required for execution. It's a well studied phenomena, but I find it somewhat easier to overcome when you're aware that it influences you.

Once you can break free of that, it's easy to get some actionable momentum going. Perfection is the enemy of "good enough" - and planning will never make profits - only ACTION will make profits.

Originally Posted by C.B. Stewart

I agree with this 100%.

I have always felt that people with above-average intelligence are more likely to fail at Internet marketing. This is just because what actually works and sells always seems counter-intuitive, and the extra-intelligent folks spend too much time analyzing instead of acting.

I wanted to comment on this one separately, because I think it underlines that mass direct marketing is an art that pertains to dealing with the lowest common denominator of the population. Often, "smart" people have trouble separating themselves from that, and thinking about what people really WANT to buy and WHY, vs. thinking "that won't work because it would never work on me."

I'm certainly NOT my own ideal web surfer or customer. If you can overcome that hurdle and understand that you need to get outside yourself to be an effective "all around" marketer of varying products to varying people, you'll do a lot better.

And to re-iterate what someone said above, it's not really "smart" vs. "dumb" but rather "educated"
and "uneducated" - which ties directly to "self-aware" vs. not.

EDIT: This came up after I finished typing the above, but I wanted to comment, so I just added it below:

Originally Posted by apc01

It is the only way to go.

It is impossible - almost anyway - to focus on more than one, two, maybe three businesses at once.

Multiple domains, multiple sites is one of the very biggest fallacies and reasons for failure out there.

Wrong. Automation, systamatization, and delegation are the keys to running multiple domains and sites. I have 75+ now, and my goal is 250 by the end of the year. If you take the proper mindset (that of an editor or producer, rather than author/creator) it's easy to pre-select a whole year's worth of niche based content. You can auto-post all that content, and then you're really only responding if necessary.

If you're doing anadvertising and affiliate based sales model, that's pretty much all there is to it.

So in that particular case, you're wrong. Respectfully. It's not true that few bigger businesses are the ONLY way to go.

That being said, I agree that it's not a "newbie" thing unless you take the approach of this original poster or mine. Build massively and automate. Especially with blogs, it's literally impossible NOT to gain ranking and traffic if you post regularly. IMPOSSIBLE. At that point, it's just a matter of learning to select the right content, the right keywords for linking, the right places to link from.

One good part is, if you get analytics and LOOK while you're building, you'll learn that stuff as you go. Anyway, not to threadjack. Carry on!

[ExRat]

Hi apc01,

Lots of absolutes thrown down there -

Anyone can succeed in IM, but only if approached as a business and the right Mindset.

By Mindset I do not mean intelligence per se, but in a deeper sense.

I also believe that mindset is important. I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say IM, but I have come across many people who do fantastically well selling marketing products to wannabe marketers (that kind of IM) who have no other key skills (in general) than the ability to 'blag' combined with the ability to take action - which is the crux of what this thread is about.

Many highly intelligent people get left for dust in 'IM' by those with less intelligence, experience and ability but with just huge brass balls.

It is the only way to go.

It is impossible - almost anyway - to focus on more than one, two, maybe three businesses at once.

Multiple domains, multiple sites is one of the very biggest fallacies and reasons for failure out there.

Really? I disagree. Strongly. It may not work for everyone, but that's not what you said.

Hi Keith,

I have always felt that people with above-average intelligence are more likely to fail at Internet marketing. This is just because what actually works and sells always seems counter-intuitive, and the extra-intelligent folks spend too much time analyzing instead of acting.

I agree with that quote from CBStewart too, along with your addition -

Often, "smart" people have trouble separating themselves from that, and thinking about what people really WANT to buy and WHY, vs. thinking "that won't work because it would never work on me."

I'd also add that many have to overcome the obstacle that they feel sorry for them too. The world around us evolves by preying and feeding on the vulnerable. But that doesn't mean that it comes naturally to all humans, especially in the 'modern world' - by that I mean, for example, a world where meat-eaters may never have to even see a dead animal, let alone hunt it, kill it, skin it, gut it and prepare it.

[slvrsrfr]

Originally Posted by runfast

I grew up in a conservative home where we attended a private school with 8 grade of education. I got a GED at 16. (I was the youngest one)
I love Math and Science. I also love reading and learning to know people.
Going to school I was actually 2 grades ahead of my peers. But I never went on to high school or college. I grew up on a large livestock farm so that is where I learned to work.

I see your thought "with that kind of mindset you will be dumb. If you say I'm dumb then your going to be dumb" but I'm a very positive dumb person. One of my mottos is: "Whoever makes the most mistakes wins"
The reason I like to say that I'm dumb is that it gives me the courage to keep on learning. If I was smart there wouldn't be anything new to learn but as long as I'm "dumb" I have no where else to go but to get on WF and learn from the Pros.

I appreciate your response...thanks

i think you were being a little tongue in cheek. and i don't consider you to be dumb, you just don't have a traditional education. as a matter of fact you're probably incredibly im street smart.

and sometimes traditional education can be a handicap. i could go on and on about this. but traditionally schooling was developed in the industrial age to create "good" workers.

you should create a $7 wso when you get to about $250 a week. i'd buy it for sure.

well done, and continued success,

jason

[anwayne]

I thinks it doe's not matter if your dumb or smart its how you get there. Never quitting is a big factor in success. I only made $1000 my first year. Quit for six months and now I'm going for it again. Doing things better, learning from mistakes.

[falcon_warrior]

Hi

Thanks for your story, it will serve as an inspiration for me to work harder. Also I don't think 'dumb' people win in IM. At least, I dont think intelligence should be measured by qualifications alone. The smart ones win in IM, cos they innovate and come up with new ideas to keep ahead of the competition, and thats a vital skill which is hard to 'test' or 'examine' in an education system

Nicholas

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi Keith,

I agree with that quote from CBStewart too, along with your addition -

I'd also add that many have to overcome the obstacle that they feel sorry for them too. The world around us evolves by preying and feeding on the vulnerable. But that doesn't mean that it comes naturally to all humans, especially in the 'modern world' - by that I mean, for example, a world where meat-eaters may never have to even see a dead animal, let alone hunt it, kill it, skin it, gut it and prepare it.

Yo!

I think you have a lot of the same sort of perspectives that I think about a lot. I don't think the predator/prey model is the only one there is though. I think that's a primitive model to follow, especially as it pertains to business. Predators are always hungry, and very susceptible to changes in the environment. To extend your analogy though, we higher primates figured out the concept of the HARNESS.

You can actually put others to work for your benefit, and profit via non-harmful exploitation, rather than predation.

Think of the herd of prospects/customers/people-at-large as sheep. They're a herd. None of them are leaders. Some marketers and business people ARE wolves as you describe. They do hunt, kill and eat the sheep and survive, but they hardly thrive. By definition, they CAN'T thrive because the more predators there are, the less prey to go around. Like I said, it's a life of constant hunger.

But that's not the only way to live off of the herd of sheep. Consider the shepherd. He tends the flock with a gentle hand - protects them, gives them a decent comfortable and protected life in exchange for renewable goods like wool, milk, etc. Sure, there's some mutton now and then, but not the main goal of the shepherd. Always he pursues conservation of the herd.

Come springtime, they will actually flock to you to be sheared. They LIKE it. They come back over and over.

Ecology. Very important.

[ExRat]

Hi Keith,

I think you have a lot of the same sort of perspectives that I think about a lot

Agreed. Excellent reply (all of the post above) Keith, thanks.

[runfast]

Keith Kogane,

Thanks for your post about sheep/shepherd!
Wow, That is a great analogy. I need to apply this method in both my online and offline businesses. This post alone was well worth starting the thread.

[bizideas]

Originally Posted by JAIDEEP2959

I don't think that $50 a week should be treated as a success.

Lot of hard work need to be done.

You know that really depends...

Success like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. If you don't subscribe to that, then go watch Robert Zemeckis' movie, Forrest Gump.

Academically, Forrest had a lot less than an eighth grade education but yet he was able to succeed further than 99% of most people. It's fiction, yes, but a lot of meaning can be applied to your own personal "success".

On a side note:
FWIW you write well and you've provoked thought. IMO that's not bad for an eighth grade education.

Go Strive.


Eric

[petevamp]

This is very interested indeed. I am not saying I am the smartest in the bunch here nor am I a complete idiot either. How ever it would be nice to take a group of 100 people. 50 with mba's and 50 hs drop outs for say. Give each of these 100 people the same products list to use. Also make it to where they all have to use the same marketing methods. I think this would be a very interesting case study to try and pull off.

Even though I did get kicked out my senior year of hs do to family issues and other problems that where underlaying at the time. Things tend to come easy to me just because of all the things I have done in my life. Probably one of the youngest ones here at the age of 28. I have done complete housing electrical work. Ihave completely installed new heating and ac units. I flew planes when I was just 16. I put my first timming belt in a car when I was 14. I have completely rebuilt motors replaced motors and trans. With far too much of the things I have done in my life to list here fully.

Things just come easy to me even though I was a straight c student during my years of school. The one thing I was always taught is that if you even just put effort in to something you can do that something. This is the reason behind my success and downfalls. I have crashed yet I have also gained increditably. Depending on whether I like the product I will be able to sell it no questions asked. Which is why I only pick things I am interested in. Tech is my highest gainer and will more then likely will always be my highest gainer. As the nuevea tech book taught me many years ago. Build a plan before you start any business. This is the true way to succeed.

PeteVamped

[ExRat]

Hi Kadensnga,

Real Meat eaters? Prey? Predators? What kind of meglomaniac talk is that?

It's only megalomaniacal if you take it totally out of context and reframe it in some bizarre, unrelated way.

If you take in the context it was used, the analogies were wholly appropriate.

A "Warrior" to me is someone with noble selfless intentions, who protects others from becoming mere "fodder". I would never buy ANYTHING from a person whose perspective on these things is so crude, it is only a reflection of their true motivation.

You're taking it a lot further there, based on an inaccurate starting point.

Profit is what business is all about no doubt, but when you have to sell your soul for it... and your very language is not that of a protecting warrior but rather a " predator with a licence", sorry I won't go that far personally.

Now we've gone all the way to 'selling your soul' based on a misrepresentation of the analogy. Can't you see how bizarre this is?

So because of the language used, someone is a 'predator with a licence'?

If I just say this - 'mlm scams have occurred' - does that language make you think that I have sold my soul and that I am a scammer?

This all started from this post (by me) -

The world around us evolves by preying and feeding on the vulnerable. But that doesn't mean that it comes naturally to all humans, especially in the 'modern world' - by that I mean, for example, a world where meat-eaters may never have to even see a dead animal, let alone hunt it, kill it, skin it, gut it and prepare it.

It's actually saying that by default, the majority of humans are nowhere near as brutal towards other humans in their daily actions as the animal kingdom surrounding us.

How can that kind of statement lead you to cast aspersions upon someone's business integrity? Not that I care, I'm just bemused at how you put 2+2 together and made 45000.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by runfast

OK Warriors I'm putting my Life out here on the Line...but here's something that I noticed on Warrior Forum discussions.

runfast, You are doing just fine! Keep going!

A story I'd like to share...

My daughter called me last night. Bless her heart, she really struggles with math, and wanted to know the answer to 3/4 minus 2/3. She told me she had come to the answer of 5/7.

I didn't ask how she came up with that answer. I didn't ask why she wanted the answer. I was just happy she called.

I helped her come to the answer correctly. She laughed at herself and thanked me while saying good night.

--
None of us have all the answers(smarts). What is important is that we recognize our own limitations. And when we need help with anything, the only 'smarts' we really need is to be intelligent enough to ask someone we already know can best guide us...for some help.
--

If I were to bet...runfast, I would wager people will be asking you for some help in the future.

Doug

[Mark Riddle]

There are a lot of "average and below average" student that succeed in business simply because they don't try to do every thing themselves.

Its very true that a lot of the top students are hired by people who barely got by in school.

Having an education should never be confused with the amount of intelligence someone has.

Mark Riddle

[kadensnga]

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi Kadensnga,

It's only megalomaniacal if you take it totally out of context and reframe it in some bizarre, unrelated way.

If you take in the context it was used, the analogies were wholly appropriate.

You're taking it a lot further there, based on an inaccurate starting point.

Now we've gone all the way to 'selling your soul' based on a misrepresentation of the analogy. Can't you see how bizarre this is?

So because of the language used, someone is a 'predator with a licence'?

If I just say this - 'mlm scams have occurred' - does that language make you think that I have sold my soul and that I am a scammer?

This all started from this post (by me) -

It's actually saying that by default, the majority of humans are nowhere near as brutal towards other humans in their daily actions as the animal kingdom surrounding us.

How can that kind of statement lead you to cast aspersions upon someone's business integrity? Not that I care, I'm just bemused at how you put 2+2 together and made 45000.

You are absolutely right, I was reading your quotes from another persons quotes and taking it out of context. My humble apologies ex rat.

Honestly, I have just been a bit put off today about some things, and I have been directing my energy unproductively.

Once again sorry. Hopefully as hard as we all work you can understand and forgive my stupidity there.

I just need to work hard on my projects, and back off from the forum for a couple of days maybe.

I once said that you were one of the smartest guys in here, still believe that. Have just been kinda swinging at the wind today...yet it continues to blow. A lesson that needs to be learned is looming.

I sometimes tend to fight certain kinds growth at first when I am entering a new level... but now is the time to submit to it, stop swinging at the wind, and receive it.

[scole954387]

Originally Posted by MichaelHiles

The real, core issue with people, smart or dumb, is action.

Spot on! Most people never take the action needed.

[scole954387]

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

Uneducated does not mean that you are dumb.

Tina G

Exactly right Tina! Reminds me of the story about Henry Ford that Napoleon Hill once told.

You can read it here (or at least it sounds very similar to his version).

An educated man is not a man of schooling. It's a man who knows where and how to obtain the information / skills he needs to a task he's trying to accomplish.

Most of the success entrepreneurs in the world do not have formal education.

Shannon

[runfast]

Originally Posted by Doug

runfast, You are doing just fine! Keep going!

A story I'd like to share...

My daughter called me last night. Bless her heart, she really struggles with math, and wanted to know the answer to 3/4 minus 2/3. She told me she had come to the answer of 5/7.

I didn't ask how she came up with that answer. I didn't ask why she wanted the answer. I was just happy she called.

I helped her come to the answer correctly. She laughed at herself and thanked me while saying good night.

--
None of us have all the answers(smarts). What is important is that we recognize our own limitations. And when we need help with anything, the only 'smarts' we really need is to be intelligent enough to ask someone we already know can best guide us...for some help.
--

If I were to bet...runfast, I would wager people will be asking you for some help in the future.

Doug

Thanks for the post about your daughter. I often tell students that I don't look at the numbers when I'm grading someone...I look at the effort they put forth. Someone that that goes out of the way to call their parents has a bit chance at Life. The failures are those that give up trying to find answers. An average 4.0 GPA student tends to take less risks when it comes to starting their own business. However, there's nothing wrong with a 30 year carreer at a good company.

Tell your daughter that I support her efforts...also tell her the secret to success isn't knowing all the answers but where to find them.

[TheNightOwl]

Originally Posted by Keith Kogane

planning will never make profits

Love it. Just love it.

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I'd add... that the more angles you think you need to look at a problem/task from -- or, indeed, that you think you're capable of looking at it from (perhaps more the point) -- the less likely you are to make a move.

I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say that well-educated people do this more often because "analysis paralysis" is certainly not an affiliction reserved for folks who've be awarded a shiny, framed testamur.

However... I'd lean towards strongly suggesting [don't you just love hedging language! ] that the more academic folks are inclined to do this kind of thing.

Gotta get them ducks in a row, dammit.

Never mind that by the time you do, duck season'll likely be over.

Great contributions as always from Keith and Roger.

Actually, this thread made me think of a report that Mark--what's-his-face--Landing-Page-Cash-Machine-guy put out mid/late last year called "Triumph of the Stupid".

@theOP --> Really intriguing post. And it has generated some terrific discussion and points and self-examination. Thank you.

Best,
TheNightOwl

P.S. For the record, like many Warriors, I'm sure, I absolutely do not equate "well-educated" people with "smart" people. And, say, an 8th grade education with being "dumb".

That's a complete crock.

When I went to university, I was horrified to find out how many... (how shall I say this tactfully?) ... um... how many "far, far less than academic" people I met there. Okay, partly due to my own upbringing, where going to university was perceived as being some monumental feat reserved for only the most extraordinarily egg-headed sliver of society.

Now, that perception of university is also a crock. So it's no surprise that what I "saw" once I got there was somewhat distorted.

But that was a long time ago. And I've been back to several more since then. And even with the distance, I maintain that it's true: University is no longer a place (if, indeed, it ever was--And I strong doubt that it was!) exclusively for "intelligent" people.

[dndoseller]

I agree, once I realized that all this IM affiliate marketing stuff came done to this - I am a sales rep for a company and I need to send leads to the businesses I rep for.

All I need is a web page between the buyer and the seller and I can freely post that page almost anywhere.

I tried blogging, article marketing, etc. but my greatest successes are just that simple:

buyer -> my webpage -> CPA offer = money

[runfast]

Great discussion going on here...I feel honored/humbled to see so many veteran IM discussing the issue I started.

Thanks everyone for your comments!