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I don't have any squeeze pages on my sites, when I put them together I kept thinking I am selling click bank products and have to send visitors to the sellers site to buy anyway and I am supposed to be doing pre sales . Do I still need a squeeze page?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Reed
    Always good to build a list. Is there any reason why you think it's better not to build a good marketing list in this case?
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    Yes you should always collect pople's email address so you can build trust and that's whan you'll make the most sales.

    And sending targeted traffic to a squeeze page is one of the easiest ways to make people opt in to your list, so yeah definately set that up.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    If you want to build a list and generate repeat traffic it helps, but if you are currently making money on your sites and can't be bothered with the extra expense / hassle of creating squeezepages then don't bother.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by marks2424 View Post

    when I put them together I kept thinking I am selling click bank products and have to send visitors to the sellers site to buy anyway
    You do indeed.

    Getting their email addresses is the way of doing that.

    Hardly anyone ever buys a ClickBank product at their first visit to its sales page, so if you don't keep them returning to it, you don't make any money. If you don't send them any email, their first visit will usually also be their last visit.

    Originally Posted by marks2424 View Post

    I am supposed to be doing pre sales .
    Yes, indeed. But by email, if you like money.

    Otherwise how do you even keep them coming back to your own site, let alone to your cookied hoplink sales-page?

    Not even trying to collect email addresses is the same as running the bath without the plug in the hole first: you're losing almost everything.

    (Besides which, most of the long-term money in successful affiliate comes from making repeated sales to the same captive audience who respect and trust you as an information-supplier, and are willing to act on the strength of your recommendations. Try doing that without an email list.)

    Originally Posted by marks2424 View Post

    Do I still need a squeeze page?
    No, not necessarily (I don't use them, myself, but I certainly use other kinds of opt-in pages. Squeeze pages are just one option. Not always the best option.)

    Squeeze pages/opt-in pages:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7939758

    Why you need to build a list:
    Is it a good idea to spend some time on building a mailing list ?
    Without Building a List, How Consistent is Your Income from Affiliate Marketing
    Does anyone even make money online without an email list?


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    • Profile picture of the author cborgrx
      Look at this way. Anybody who buys a clickbank product is going to go on that vendors email list for future promotions and such. Why pass this up. They could be going onto your list for future promotions. Get that squeeze page built and do this affiliate marketing the right way.
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  • Profile picture of the author giulio74
    it is always best to build a list and create a relationship of trust with your subscribers
    then after you can promote your products
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinhy
    Right now what you are thinking is:
    Traffic > your website > click bank buyers website

    A better business model is:
    Traffic > Your Website > Opt-In (Email list) > Follow up (build relationship) > Offer Products (affiliate)
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  • Profile picture of the author Katjomad
    This subject has me very confused also. Is a squeeze page the wordpress blog? Is it an email program like aweber? I'm confused where to even start? Do I start with a wordpress blog? What purpose would that serve? And if I'm marketing a product from clickbank how does that help me build a repoir with the buyer? I get marketing emails all the time. I don't have a personal sales person to go to and get their personal recommendations. If the email is something I'm interested in ill look at it but it's not from anyone marketer in particular so I don't get the whole create a following mentality I keep hearing. I want to start off by promoting clickbank products and take that income and turn it into something bigger but I'm just stuck on where to start. And the whole list building thing vs the blog vs the squeeze page. Which is which and what's the first place to start?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      Is a squeeze page the wordpress blog?
      It can be. It doesn't have to be. It's up to you how you make your pages and what software you use.

      A squeeze page can be made from WordPress. It can be a one-page website on its own. It can be part of another website. It's up to you.

      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      Is it an email program like aweber?
      No. But it's linked to an account you hold with an autoresponder service such as Aweber, so that when people put their email address into it, that automatically adds them to your list held at Aweber (or whichever other autoresponder service you're choosing to use). When you make the squeeze page, Aweber gives you the "code" to add to the page design, to make sure that happens.

      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      Do I start with a wordpress blog? What purpose would that serve?
      It would give you a website, to draw your traffic to, and to collect the visitors' email addresses from. One way or another, you need that. (You don't have to use WordPress. I don't. But most people do - some because they like it and see it recommended in forums like this; others perhaps because they're not really aware of the alternatives).

      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      And if I'm marketing a product from clickbank how does that help me build a repoir with the buyer?
      You build rapport with the subscriber by sending them valuable content in the emails you send every few days, so that by the time you promote the ClickBank product to them, they feel they know and trust you, and they're willing to follow your recommendation to visit the ClickBank product's sales page because you advise it. But understand that you're not selling the product. The vendor does that. All you do is "recommend" it.

      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      I get marketing emails all the time.
      Then you've probably seen hundreds of really bad ones, and will know some of the things to avoid, if you decide to send your own?

      The "general standard" is appallingly bad. That's one of the reasons why so few people are successful at affiliate marketing. They're often trying much too hard, sending too many emails, and making them sound like they're selling. Those are really bad ideas that don't work well, for most people, in spite of the fact that they're also "what most people do".

      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      I don't get the whole create a following mentality I keep hearing.
      That's because the emails you're looking at are sent by marketers who aren't very good at what they're doing.

      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      I want to start off by promoting clickbank products and take that income and turn it into something bigger
      That's ambitious.

      It's not easy, for most marketers, to get a lot "bigger" than the money you can make by promoting ClickBank products successfully. There are people earning 7 figures per year just from doing that. (But there are a whole lot more barely even earning 5 figures per year, and those are the ones whose emails you're currently receiving, I'm guessing, from what you say).

      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      And the whole list building thing vs the blog vs the squeeze page. Which is which and what's the first place to start?
      A squeeze page is a type of opt-in page.

      There are other types of opt-in page.

      I advise you not to try to sell ClickBank products without list-building, whether you use a squeeze page or some other type of opt-in page to build the list.

      These two posts might help you ...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9319964

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523


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  • Profile picture of the author Katjomad
    First off I feel I need to apologize for possibly hijacking the OP message. This subject has really frustrated me and I didnt think about that before I replied. I probably should have started my own thread with so many questions.

    secondly, thanks for the detailed response. This has been my biggest roadblock so far. Just trying to sort out the TON of info I have read and listened to. Although your information helps. I still have no real clear understanding where to start. ill get there eventually and surely didnt mean to insult other clickbank promoters saying I plan to go bigger. I just simply meant that in the beginning I just want to see something happen and then take that and make it better. I do know you can make a living on CB products I met someone that made over 6K a month doing it. I just have not figured it out yet. Its frustrating.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      surely didnt mean to insult other clickbank promoters saying I plan to go bigger.
      Don't worry - I'm sure nobody will have taken you that way (I just wanted to mention to you that you can build a really big, solid, reliable, asset-based business "just" being a CB affiliate, if that's what you want to do - by using email marketing, by not depending on SEO for traffic, and by promoting multiple products across multiple niches ).

      Originally Posted by Katjomad View Post

      I just have not figured it out yet. Its frustrating.
      We've all "been there". Nobody was born knowing how to do any of this stuff. It's that kind of "confusing area" in-between "information overload" and not always being able to formulate questions whose answers will necessarily be all that helpful? There's an enormous amount of "information" in forums, certainly. Unfortunately, there's also quite a lot of "misinformation", too. The time that you most need the judgement to distinguish between the two is also the time, inevitably, through inexperience, that you have least "judgement". It isn't easy. Good luck and good wishes to you.

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  • Profile picture of the author imogenhobbs
    A shorter way would be set it up like this:

    Offer a supplementary guide on how to increase the effectiveness of whatever you are selling. (your personal experience)

    This will go on your squeeze as the "bribe".

    You send an email giving this bribe... and then tell the prospect where to get the product within the pdf document or email (click this link - make it a tracked link so you know where they are coming from). Also remind her that you are going to be sending a newsletter series to increase the effectiveness of whatever you are promoting, etc.

    What this also does is pretty nifty... It opens that loop and activates the Zeigarnik effect. The prospect is most likely being pre-sold and I find that it increases conversions in the product page.

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  • Profile picture of the author LuckyIMer
    If you’re not building an email list, you’re making a HUGE mistake. Definitely use a capture/squeeze page
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  • Profile picture of the author NatWil00
    Over the years the internet marketing has changed , before you could even use a sales page to sell direct, but now things have changed. To sell without a squeeze page is always an error, but some years ago many people don't knew it.

    I also believe that not having a squeeze page is a huge mistake, because with the squeeze page, you can create your own list of people to whom you can sell with email marketing. You need to have a capture page, or you will lose many potential buyers and you will never have a list of people to whom you can offer also your product in the future.

    You can use also leadpages.net if you don't know how to create a squeeze page. Or you can pay someone that can it for you, but you need to have a squeeze page :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by NatWil00 View Post

      I also believe that not having a squeeze page is a huge mistake
      I believe that not having an opt-in page is a huge mistake (but it doesn't necessarily have to be a squeeze page, and squeeze pages are often not optimal - I don't actually use squeeze pages at all, for all these reasons: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7939758 ).

      Originally Posted by NatWil00 View Post

      with the squeeze page, you can create your own list of people to whom you can sell with email marketing.
      You can do that (and perhaps more profitably) with other types of opt-in page, too.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982



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  • Profile picture of the author James1212
    Yes you should have one for sure, It helps build list.
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  • Profile picture of the author samellis12
    A squeeze page is essential for anything that you promote, you want to be collecting leads so that you can re advertise similar products to them in the future!

    It means that your advertising dollar will go further for you in the long run!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by samellis12 View Post

      A squeeze page is essential for anything that you promote
      No - this isn't necessarily right, Sam.

      An opt-in page is certainly a very good idea, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a squeeze page. Sometimes other types of opt-in page are better. It's something to test (and by monitoring income, not just numbers of subscribers). This is more fully explained in some of the threads linked to just above.

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  • Profile picture of the author natas105
    Absolutely! You should always build your own list to promote similar products to or your own.

    Look at the sales page of the offer you're promoting and add value to that product by creating a freebie that will help your potential buyer even more. You can offer a worksheet, action plan, journal, mindmap, etc.
    If you have personally experienced the problem at hand OR have gone through the product you're promoting, you can also add a freebie about what you think is the missing link in the actual product itself.

    In short: yes, you need a list.
    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by natas105 View Post

      In short: yes, you need a list.
      Nobody's questioned that, at all - that isn't what the thread's about.

      The OP is asking whether he needs a squeeze page. And the answer is "not necessarily", because there are plenty of other ways of building a list, without using squeeze-pages.

      Indeed, as specified in the first post, the OP is planning to sell ClickBank products: some of us doing so have split-tested extensively, across a range of niches, and have found that squeeze pages aren't actually the best listbuilding method for that purpose.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7939758

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  • Profile picture of the author Angshuman Dutta
    Its a good idea to have a squeeze page even if you are selling as an affiliate. Here's why:

    1. You can mail out similar affiliate offers to people you know are already buyers and make money.

    2. If someday you come up with your own product you can sell it to your list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Angshuman Dutta View Post

      Here's why:

      1. You can mail out similar affiliate offers to people you know are already buyers and make money.

      2. If someday you come up with your own product you can sell it to your list.
      You say "here's why", Angshuman, but in fact you're making exactly the same mistake as many of the posters above, and not appreciating that you can do those exact, same things if you build your list from other types of opt-in pages that aren't squeeze pages, as well.

      Originally Posted by Angshuman Dutta View Post

      Its a good idea to have a squeeze page even if you are selling as an affiliate.
      It isn't for me, and I've been making my full-time living as an affiliate for over 5 years, and I've split-tested it extensively to find out what works best, for me, and why.

      You should try doing the same, some time: you might get a surprise or two, and learn some very valuable things, along the way.

      It's perfectly possible (and sometimes very beneficial) to build your lists without using a squeeze page to do so: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7939758
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982


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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by marks2424 View Post

    ...I kept thinking I am selling click bank products and have to send visitors to the sellers site to buy anyway and I am supposed to be doing pre sales . Do I still need a squeeze page?
    Good question. You can always do pre-selling in your email newsletter. Me personally i would gather the lead and give them some good info, and at the same time... promote the affiliate product. Just make sure you mask the link. Do you need a squeeze page? Yes. This is the most reliable way to get sales online - no matter what you're selling. No matter if you're ebay or amazon... or even microsoft.
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  • Profile picture of the author nasstar
    i agree that you need to have a squeeze page, you can collect emails and be able to further market other offers to them at a later date.
    its more like killing two birds with one stone.
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