Is something going on With Click bank again? 553 visits 0 sales

[Christian Fox]

553 Unique visitors to one of my sites and not a single sale in the last 20 days. This is an affiliate site with a simple click to watch video and then they are led to the affiliate site. I had been making decent sales earlier with less traffic.

I have a strong call to action and I am sure my click through rate is quite good.

The attached excel spreadsheet will show the details. The dates of sale from this particular affiliate are highlighted yellow.

I switched my hop link just to see if that changes anything.... This affiliate in particular seems to mask my aff id in their browser. I have never been able to see it anywhere yet have made sales from them.

This is smelling really fishy to me am I paranoid?

The 'hiccup' in traffic on the 13-16 of Jun happened when I switch to canonical url's and finally changed my redirects to 301's instead of 302's

Anyone else having issues?

Any tricks to see my aff ID anywhere? I tried viewing the source...

This is a very well converting sales page and has very high gravity on click-bank... It's NOT their sales copy....

This is all organic traffic, as sad as it sounds I can't afford to mess things up with adwords right now. I know it is hard to learn the ropes and will cost $$ to master.

Excel Spreadsheet Below

[jasonl70]

Originally Posted by Christian Fox

Any tricks to see my aff ID anywhere? I tried viewing the source...

yeah - click on the buy botton, and look for your affiliate id at the bottom of the CB checkout page.

[PrettyJenny]

Maybe it's just some bad time right now. I have been wondering the same question as my sales have gone down a lot the last 2 weeks. But I checked all the affiliate links and they are fine, so I guess it's not clickbank or any hijack stuff then.

[Christian Fox]

Originally Posted by jasonl70

yeah - click on the buy botton, and look for your affiliate id at the bottom of the CB checkout page.

Thanks for that...It's there...

Geeze I just added 20 additional posts all keyword optimized for different keywords. Guess I'll need 350 unique visits a day min before I start making sales on a regular basis...Everyone is broke right now....

Time to think about some hard times niches I think... I can think of a few already.

[patchman]

nah,its a slow period June... but things are starting to pick up again for me, you should try promoting other products too... Diversify is the key!!

[Nisip]

how many times was the affiliat HOPlink clicked?

that you should see in your clickbank statistics/reportings (beta)

For example my hoplinks were accessed 1943 times and i had just 1 sale.

Maybe you can post a screenshot with the numbers of Hops...

[Christian Fox]

Originally Posted by patchman

nah,its a slow period June... but things are starting to pick up again for me, you should try promoting other products too... Diversify is the key!!

I am. this is one of 30 sites....
All have slowed down however.

[Christian Fox]

Originally Posted by Nisip

how many times was the affiliat HOPlink clicked?

that you should see in your clickbank statistics/reportings (beta)

For example my hoplinks were accessed 1943 times and i had just 1 sale.

Maybe you can post a screenshot with the numbers of Hops...

Damn that's rough, I'll look into that beta.





1,385 Hops 2 Sales
In the last month
.14% Conversion on my confirmed hops to their site, and yet their gravity is 473.23

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm....


Wow, thats quite a conversion rate

[rapidscc]

Same thing happening to me. Lucky for you only 553. I had more than 1k and no sales.

from 3 different products of super affiliates.. :-(

[Nisip]

rapidscc 1k of hops (clicks on the affiliate hop links) or just 1k of visits to your blog/site ?

HOPS are what is important!

[rapidscc]

Originally Posted by Nisip

rapidscc 1k of hops (clicks on the affiliate hop links) or just 1k of visits to your blog/site ?

HOPS are what is important!

Hops. I use CB's new feature, analytics..

And that 1k, it's not for all the 3 products it's X 3 products.

What I presume that's happening is, because the sales pages have Free eBook if you sign-up form, it affects the conversion.

I'm giving it a few more days and I will drop the present products I'm promoting..Since all that's earning with my efforts are the site owners who's probably building list instead of selling..

I hope that people who produce products and ask affiliates to sell them will focus more on converting the traffic and not on building their list for their own purposes.

But then who am I to say so...

oMar

[Christian Fox]

Originally Posted by rapidscc

Hops. I use CB's new feature, analytics..

And that 1k, it's not for all the 3 products it's X 3 products.

What I presume that's happening is, because the sales pages have Free eBook if you sign-up form, it affects the conversion.

I'm giving it a few more days and I will drop the present products I'm promoting..Since all that's earning with my efforts are the site owners who's probably building list instead of selling..

I hope that people who produce products and ask affiliates to sell them will focus more on converting the traffic and not on building their list for their own purposes.

But then who am I to say so...

oMar

What is the 'gravity' rating for those products on CB?

I've got a .14% conversion rate (2 sales 1385 confirmed hops) on a site with 473 gravity... Something is not adding up.


I had 1421 total visits 1385 clicked through to my affiliate in the last month (confirmed by statcounter) = 97% click through rate from my site (damn that is good )

Problem is NOT on my end...

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by rapidscc

What I presume that's happening is, because the sales pages have Free eBook if you sign-up form, it affects the conversion.

Originally Posted by rapidscc

I hope that people who produce products and ask affiliates to sell them will focus more on converting the traffic and not on building their list for their own purposes.

One can hope.

I'm normally very reluctant to be an affiliate for anything with a "free e-book if you sign up" form on the sales-page, because you have no way of knowing if the vendor will use autoresponder emails to direct such potential customers to another sales-page and/or to his own or his friend's affiliate-link instead and you'll lose the commission.

Affiliates can "vote with their feet", you know?

It seems to me that to become an affiliate for something with a system designed to give the vendor a financial incentive to be less-than-transparent in his dealings with affiliates is in principle something of a second-best choice.

[Michael Franklin]

I never had an issue with Clickbank. Summer seems to be a slower time for affiliate sales as I have seen a drop overall as well.

If you really want to make sure that Clickbank is not hiding sales from you, then throw in some bonuses on your sales page and indicate to your buyer that they need to e-mail you with their Clickbank Receipt Number so that you can e-mail them with your bonuses.

This way you can match the e-mails to the Clickbank sales....It works like a charm!

[Okane]

Originally Posted by Christian Fox

What is the 'gravity' rating for those products on CB?

I've got a .14% conversion rate (2 sales 1385 confirmed hops) on a site with 473 gravity... Something is not adding up.


I had 1421 total visits 1385 clicked through to my affiliate in the last month (confirmed by statcounter) = 97% click through rate from my site (damn that is good )

Problem is NOT on my end...

Same here. I have roughly 1500 hops (clicks to the vendor's sales page) and just one sale. All in the fitness / workout niche.

Then, I started a new campaign for a make-money product few days ago and already made three sales from just 33 hops. So, obviously clickbank works.

Anyone here with good conversion rates in the fitness niche?

[rapidscc]

Originally Posted by alexa_s

Affiliates can "vote with their feet", you know?

Yups, I think I'll give it a few more days and I'm walking away..Will promote instant commissions instead...

[Adrian Cooper]

Originally Posted by PrettyJenny

Maybe it's just some bad time right now. I have been wondering the same question as my sales have gone down a lot the last 2 weeks. But I checked all the affiliate links and they are fine, so I guess it's not clickbank or any hijack stuff then.

Sales always go down in the Summer - generally speaking. People are out enjoying themselves, saving for vacations etc.

Also keep in mind that only a small percentage will click through to the sales letter, and only a percentage of them will buy.

Technically there are many possibilities - tracking cookies etc that can go wrong.

Numerous anti-trojan programs filter out CB tracking cookies - I know that for a fact.

I advise everyone to make a product and sell it on CB or wherever, then the dynamics are totally different.

All that said, you must track visitor activity all the way.

[Christian Fox]

Originally Posted by Okane

Same here. I have roughly 1500 hops (clicks to the vendor's sales page) and just one sale. All in the fitness / workout niche.

Then, I started a new campaign for a make-money product few days ago and already made three sales from just 33 hops. So, obviously clickbank works.

Anyone here with good conversion rates in the fitness niche?

I suspected this, times are hard feed the hungry

[Nisip]

Originally Posted by Christian Fox

What is the 'gravity' rating for those products on CB?

I've got a .14% conversion rate (2 sales 1385 confirmed hops) on a site with 473 gravity... Something is not adding up.


I had 1421 total visits 1385 clicked through to my affiliate in the last month (confirmed by statcounter) = 97% click through rate from my site (damn that is good )

Problem is NOT on my end...

Can I see your website?

Yes there is a huge problem with Clickbank!

[Christian Fox]

Originally Posted by Nisip

Can I see your website?

Yes there is a huge problem with Clickbank!

Not to be an ass, but I'd rather not post it here considering the smart and motivated members that are here.

I've worked hard to find niche keywords that work and the last time I did that competitors started popping up like mushrooms. It took me some time to outrank a few of them.

I have also worked hard to get a 97% click through rate on this page and I'd rather not show that method to everyone either...

I have confirmed the numbers. I did change the aff links to a version without a virtual 'sales person' blabbing away. I think they (virtual sales people) may spook out some potential customers, especially if their volume is cranked. I am sure they can't find the back button fast enough....

I'll see if that improves my numbers.

There is no way the problem is on my end I have confirmed the rates with stat counter and clickbank analytics.

[taraff1]

My sales are ok...however I do from time to time has unexplainable downturns.

The best advice I can give is to TRACK everything. Sometimes you can find problems easily that way.

For example, I have had a site suddenly rank very high in google for a term that really had NOTHING to do with my product, while at the same time, my site's ranking for a keyworkd that genrated a lot of my sales went WAY down. Ultimately, my site had the same, or more, visitors, but VERY few conversions, even though the hops (curiosity I suppose) were still there.

To the naked eye, my stats looked like nothing had changed, once I dug deeper, I uncovered this problem!

I have also confirmed that from time to time, Clickbanks "Fraud system" may temporarily restrict payments to specific products - this meaning very few Credit Cards are accepted. Sucks, but part of doing business with CB I suppose.

Another thing to check - that many people forget - your competitiors! You may still rank the same, but perhaps your competitors are offering bonuses, have a more convincing sales page, etc. Also check to see that there hasn't been a sudden surge in PPC advertisers. I have had this affect me greatly!

One very simple and critical thing that I think may affiliates forget, or are too lazy, to do - search your OWN keywords at least once a month - the more the better. This way you can monitor changes, and your competition! Find a new Hubpage suddenly ranking high for your term - there's a good chance you can build one and out rank them!

Just some thoughts- Hope it works out for you!

Jim

[Nisip]

I also track everything. But the sales on Clickbank are lowest than any expectance... 0.03% conversion rate? Oh oh

[VeitSchenk]

Originally Posted by taraff1

One very simple and critical thing that I think may affiliates forget, or are too lazy, to do - search your OWN keywords at least once a month - the more the better. This way you can monitor changes, and your competition! Find a new Hubpage suddenly ranking high for your term - there's a good chance you can build one and out rank them!

Just some thoughts- Hope it works out for you!

Jim

great tip, thanks!

I really hope it's just a "slow summer" thing, as I'm just getting started with doing affiliate promotions on clickbank....

Veit

[Nisip]

slow summer it means let's say drop from 3% to 1%... a 66% drop

but NO, this is really something catastrophic... drop from 3% to 0.03%...
it's a 100 times drop...

[Allen Lewis]

Summer + MJ's death + Recession + Sales not tracked = poor sales

The more attention that people are paying to other stuff, means people aren't paying much attention to yours.

Next year's soccer World Cup in June will bring even lower sales for many businesses, because the attention and the money is going to be spent on activities and things related to the World Cup.

Go to where the money is flowing to.

Allen

[Nisip]

preselling = you mean sending them 3 emails in advance about how good it will be a product that will be launched and it will be online just for 2 days and they should buy it or it will be closed the oportunity forever? this is what you mean?

[Harvey Segal]

Originally Posted by Nisip

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[mylelo]

I have to agree with many of the ones posting a response about how slow is in the summer besides that many people is broke, many of them had lost their jobs and are hesitant to spend any money right now, so I do believe the economy downturn has something to do with it. If you create your own product you have more chance of success as your own product will be unique, instead of promoting a product that many others are promoting. I have created my own and it's not as hard as you may think, and then you will have more affiliates promoting your own product thus making you more profits.

[Steven Carl Kelly]

If affiliate marketing isn't working as well as you'd hoped, you may want to consider selling your own product over selling someone else's.