Do you have what it takes to be crowned the 2014 Warrior Internet Marketer of the Year?

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The Internet marketer who launches a product using Warrior Payments and makes the most in total gross sales by the end of the year will be crowned the 2014 Warrior Internet Marketer of the Year and take home US$10,000 cash!

The affiliate marketer who makes the most in total affiliate commission by the end of the year will be crowned the 2014 Warrior Affiliate Marketer of the Year and also take home US$10,000 cash.

We'll be sending more details about the competition shortly but for now all you need to do is fill in the below form and start using Warrior Payments to launch your products or promote products as an affiliate.
Do you plan on using Warpay to get in the running? Will this make a difference in your decision to use it or not?

Curious times people!

Brent
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    Yes, i got this through as well.

    I think, assuming, that you have to use Warrior payments to be in this.

    Until they have an upsell facility I can't use them.

    Still, not surprised that they are promoting their new platform - surprised it did not happen ages ago.

    Will be hard to gain a footing with all the solutions out there but Bravo for trying and good luck to them!

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author sasuke120
    Sounds like a great opportunity and a nice title
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    They say you can catch more bees with honey right?

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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      I don't think this will drive sales or interest as intended:

      - No reward for finishing 2nd on down, even if just by one sale.

      - Whoever has the biggest list wins. That's not me, so why bother.

      - On December 29th W+ or JVzoo checkout the marketplace stats to see the target number, and then with their mammoth buyers lists aggregated from all their users makes a referral and grabs $10k.

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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        I don't think this will drive sales or interest as intended:

        - No reward for finishing 2nd on down, even if just by one sale.

        - Whoever has the biggest list wins. That's not me, so why bother.

        - On December 29th W+ or JVzoo checkout the marketplace stats to see the target number, and then with their mammoth buyers lists aggregated from all their users makes a referral and grabs $10k.

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        I don't think it will drive more sales but not a bad thing to possibly getting an extra 10k for doing business as usual.

        You never know until you test this stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        The title, 2014 Warrior Internet Marketer of the Year, is certainly misleading.

        Since all Warrior Internet Marketers don't use Warrior payments, and the title and prize money can only be gained by those that do, the potential field from which the winner will be chosen is very limited compared to the 700-800K Warrior members total, whatever that is now.

        Marketers in tiny niches, those with inexpensive products, those that serve larger corporations (where the account is not in their name), those whose funnels are already locked in to other payment transaction companies, and many others have no chance of winning regardless of the fact that they may be the very best marketers on the planet.

        The real name of the contest should be
        The Guy Who Makes the Most Money for Warrior Payments

        There is no disrespect meant to the winner. No disrespect to Freelancer - they are in business to make money and they'll do that however they see fit. I'm just saying . . . let's call this what it really is.

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        • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
          Reflecting on this after breakfast, the contest and reward makes sense from the perspective of the forum. Forget my opinion as a small seller. I'm not the target.

          If you're someone who can drive a ton of sales through the forum, a top 1 percenter, that is who the forum wants to attract and entice away from the ClickBanks, W+ and JVzoos of the world. Warrior Payments needs some whales.

          Good idea to give an incentive for someone in that category to promote here.

          Time to start working on building and improving my list.

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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

          - No reward for finishing 2nd on down, even if just by one sale.

          - Whoever has the biggest list wins. That's not me, so why bother.

          - On December 29th W+ or JVzoo checkout the marketplace stats to see the target number, and then with their mammoth buyers lists aggregated from all their users makes a referral and grabs $10k.
          I'm not sure whether they invalidate the suggestion/plan, but I completely agree with all three of these points.

          Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

          The title, 2014 Warrior Internet Marketer of the Year, is certainly misleading.
          Yes, very much so!

          I think this would be a most regrettable mistake: it really does come across as very misleading. Sorry.

          I have no horse in this race at all, because I don't promote WSO's, but like Steve, above, I say this with absolutely no disrespect at all to the winner, who will be a fine marketer and deserving of a prize, I'm sure. And with no disrespect at all to Freelancer, either ... but this kind of wording certainly isn't how I'd want to promote and present this idea at all.

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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            The seller and the affiliate who wins...will be happy.

            Everyone else won't.

            It's the nature of contests.
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            • Profile picture of the author celente
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              The seller and the affiliate who wins...will be happy.

              Everyone else won't.

              It's the nature of contests.
              hit it on the head, and in one sentence have wrapped it up. Its not for the faint of heart, but its probably a good thing to do.
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              • Profile picture of the author WikiWarrior
                Will the winner get a Warrior-style trophy? And what about all the other marketers, hmm? What about recognising their valiant efforts? How about adding some more categories and make it...The (Annual) Warrior Awards.

                Some of the categories could be:

                Best Marketer in a Leading Role (Product Owner)
                Best Sales Page
                Best Marketer in a Supporting Role (Affiliate/JV)
                Best Director of a Product Launch
                Best Foreign Language Product Owner
                Best Graphics in a Sales Page
                Best Animated Video Sales Page
                Best Copywriter
                Most Valuable Poster of the Year (MVP)
                Best Breakthrough Marketer
                Best Customer Support

                And a few fun ones:

                Most Outrageous Sales Page with Absurd Income Claims
                Most Entertaining Sales Page
                Most Cliched Sales Page which Still Made Significant Sales
                Best Rags to Riches Sob Story
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                • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                  Originally Posted by WikiWarrior View Post

                  Will the winner get a Warrior-style trophy? And what about all the other marketers, hmm? What about recognising their valiant efforts? How about adding some more categories and make it...The (Annual) Warrior Awards.

                  Some of the categories could be:

                  Best Sales Page
                  Best Graphics in a Sales Page
                  Best Animated Video Sales Page
                  Best Copywriter
                  This actually wouldn't be a bad idea and members vote for each of the Best in Category. It was increase the overall engagement with WP and give some other people a chance at winning something, even if only recognition.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
                    Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                    This actually wouldn't be a bad idea and members vote for each of the Best in Category. It was increase the overall engagement with WP and give some other people a chance at winning something, even if only recognition.
                    Good idea, but you would have to have some kind of panel, or Warriors with a good list will just send out "Vote for me" emails to their subscribers.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

          The title, 2014 Warrior Internet Marketer of the Year, is certainly misleading.

          Since all Warrior Internet Marketers don't use Warrior payments, and the title and prize money can only be gained by those that do, the potential field from which the winner will be chosen is very limited compared to the 700-800K Warrior members total, whatever that is now.
          Isn't it a necessary requirement given the nature of the prize though? Determining gross (including refunds etc) would be verified how without access to the sales and refund data?
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          • Profile picture of the author Steve B
            I really have no qualms with how Freelancer promotes their payment service and the requirements they set for their own contest.

            The name they have chosen for their prize winner seems to be misleading, IMO, because only a very small percentage of the Warrior community qualifies to even be considered.

            It is certainly skewed toward the big sellers, the folks that have big lists, sell higher priced products, or repeat sales . . . anyway, certain business models that a small niche seller will have a hard time competing against.

            Maybe it's just me . . . but when someone is designated "Internet Marketer of the Year" it suggests the winner was chosen because of outstanding accomplishments in marketing well beyond the norm.

            For all we know, as it stands right now, the title can be won by whoever spends the most money going after it. Or it could be given to a marketer that did absolutely no marketing himself but his 27 VA's won the prize money for him.

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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              I really have no qualms with how Freelancer promotes their payment service and the requirements they set for their own contest.
              Apparently you do as you go on to call it 'misleading'.

              Do you have a problem with the WarriorPlus "WSO of the day?" Isn't that deceptive? How was that fair - you had to use WarriorPlus to get that designation - and W+ doesn't even own the WSO section or the forum it's on.

              FL owns the forum - they own the payment system - they are providing the $20k. I'd say they can name their contest anything they please. It's clearly meant as an incentive for top sellers here to use the new payment system for the next four+ months. Nothing wrong with that.
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                Do you have a problem with the WarriorPlus "WSO of the day?" Isn't that deceptive? How was that fair - you had to use WarriorPlus to get that designation - and W+ doesn't even own the WSO section or the forum it's on.
                I can't stand that WSO of the day crap, it's very misleading for buyers.

                I fell for it once ($$) when I first joined this forum, never again...
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                • Profile picture of the author Alaister
                  We'll be providing more details with specific terms and conditions in regards to the competition shortly.

                  Is that one product or combined products? Brent, I need to know these things!

                  Will the WarriorForum affiliate sales count towards this? Seems unfair for them to pick products based on higher payouts and then reward one of those sellers as the 10k winner.
                  This is for all combined products.
                  All sales for all products will be counted to this minus any refunds that occur.

                  We'll be getting up the full terms and conditions shortly but wanted to announce it and let everyone know about the competition.

                  Would be a bummer too if you ended second with 2 sales less...
                  Even if you came second by 2 sales I think you'll be happy with the performance of your products and the money you would have made overall.
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                • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  I can't stand that WSO of the day crap, it's very misleading for buyers.
                  I agree unreservedly. For too long it's been part of the way that WarriorPlus has openly and deliberately used the imprimatur of the Warrior Forum to promote their own business, knowing full well that huge numbers of people imagine that it's something "official" or "forum sponsored", when it isn't at all.

                  I find it very unpleasant indeed: it's just downright deceptive.

                  I won't even buy WSO's through them (and I'm far from the only person here who won't, as has become very apparent in earlier discussions of this subject.)

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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  I can't stand that WSO of the day crap, it's very misleading for buyers.

                  I fell for it once ($$) when I first joined this forum, never again...
                  I saw it for over a year before I realized it wasn't officially sanctioned. I'll ask again since no one answered and maybe I don't know the ins and outs - but how could they do a gross revenue based contest without using their payment system? How do they verify the sales (and refund) data with a third party system?
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        On December 29th W+ or JVzoo checkout the marketplace stats to see the target number, and then with their mammoth buyers lists aggregated from all their users makes a referral and grabs $10k.
        I can tell you with 100% certainty that neither JVZoo or Warrior Plus would want to send their buyers list over to purchase a product using Warrior Payments for a possibility of making $10,000. That's chump change to those guys. They can make that in a decent daily promo on their own platform. So it's definitely not going to entice that to happen.

        I can also tell you with 99% certainty that the 'whales' they are trying to attract with a competition like this will not bite. I have a buyers list of over 28,000 people and would never send them over to a forum offer where they end up on the Warrior Payment list getting sent daily emails about new products. Not even $10,000 would entice me to do that because the damage that would do to my list of buyers would be worth wayyyy more to me than $10,000. Besides, I can make that money in a decent weekly promo to my list so it serves no purpose for me to do that.

        I remember reading somewhere from Frank Kern where he said the exact same thing. We all know he has lists of hundreds of thousands of people and he always said that he never ever promoted ANY forum offers, no matter how good the product was. He said the damage done to his list by promoting such an offer makes any money earnt from the promotion totally insignificant.

        Sure, they might attract some new sellers to start taking a bit more action but this type of thing won't really attract the big sellers back into promoting forum offers like this. It just makes no financial sense to those guys.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          I can also tell you with 99% certainty that the 'whales' they are trying to attract with a competition like this will not bite. I have a buyers list of over 28,000 people and would never send them over to a forum offer where they end up on the Warrior Payment list
          It just wouldn't be a successful product , service or contest launch for anything WF does now without you indicating how bad it is. All check list launch items have have been ticked and we now have lift off.
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        • Profile picture of the author ddev
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          ... I have a buyers list of over 28,000 people and would never send them over to a forum offer where they end up on the Warrior Payment list getting sent daily emails about new products.....
          Interesting but JVZoo, W+ etc...they all send emails to buyers (as far as i know).

          Unless you only promote your own products, there's always a risk when promoting affiliate stuff (once the visitor goes to another site, the vendor is the boss).

          Just some thoughts.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
            Originally Posted by ddev View Post

            Interesting but JVZoo, W+ etc...they all send emails to buyers (as far as i know).

            Unless you only promote your own products, there's always a risk when promoting affiliate stuff (once the visitor goes to another site, the vendor is the boss).

            Just some thoughts.
            But JVzoo and W+ has given him something the WF Payment's has not. WSO of the day
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          I can tell you with 100% certainty that neither JVZoo or Warrior Plus would want to send their buyers list over to purchase a product using Warrior Payments for a possibility of making $10,000. That's chump change to those guys. They can make that in a decent daily promo on their own platform. So it's definitely not going to entice that to happen.

          I can also tell you with 99% certainty that the 'whales' they are trying to attract with a competition like this will not bite. I have a buyers list of over 28,000 people and would never send them over to a forum offer where they end up on the Warrior Payment list getting sent daily emails about new products. Not even $10,000 would entice me to do that because the damage that would do to my list of buyers would be worth wayyyy more to me than $10,000. Besides, I can make that money in a decent weekly promo to my list so it serves no purpose for me to do that.

          I remember reading somewhere from Frank Kern where he said the exact same thing. We all know he has lists of hundreds of thousands of people and he always said that he never ever promoted ANY forum offers, no matter how good the product was. He said the damage done to his list by promoting such an offer makes any money earnt from the promotion totally insignificant.

          Sure, they might attract some new sellers to start taking a bit more action but this type of thing won't really attract the big sellers back into promoting forum offers like this. It just makes no financial sense to those guys.
          Doesn't jvzoo and w+ send out emails to the people on your list?
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            Doesn't jvzoo and w+ send out emails to the people on your list?
            In his supportive zeal he forgot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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    Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

    Did you get this email?

    The Internet marketer who launches a product using Warrior Payments and makes the most in total gross sales by the end of the year will be crowned the 2014 Warrior Internet Marketer of the Year and take home US$10,000 cash!
    Is that one product or combined products? Brent, I need to know these things!

    Will the WarriorForum affiliate sales count towards this? Seems unfair for them to pick products based on higher payouts and then reward one of those sellers as the 10k winner.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Originally Posted by AmericanMuscleTA View Post

      We all have what it takes to win!!!

      LOL. Zippa-de-do-dah, Zippa-de-ay, my oh my what a wonderful day!
      (butterflies flitting, birds singing, bees humming in the background)

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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    People who have large lists and want to earn that CASH and RECOGNITION, will go for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    Too many people will realize it's not possible for them and disregard the entire contest.

    Would be a bummer too if you ended second with 2 sales less...
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by JensSteyaert View Post

      Would be a bummer too if you ended second with 2 sales less...
      Yes, it would be a bummer that you didn't win. However, all the money you made along the way would ease the pain a little.

      Anyway, it might be interesting to witness all of the sales tactics that could be employed over the final days or hours of the competition.
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      • Profile picture of the author michaeloslier
        Yeh it will be interesting to see everyone's tactics.

        Alaister has said that the competition includes all sales of all products not just one so the biggest marketers who are able to get in early and start pumping out awesome products will have the best chances.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    I have no problem with the name. It's the Warrior Forum and it's their contest.

    Just because you win the WSOP main event or a WPT event doesn't mean you're the best or highest earning poker player that participated. It just means you won that one event. And how many American sports teams are referred to as "World Champions" when they win their respective league championships? How about "best picture" or "best actor/actress"? I guess my point is that most titles are arbitrary. It's just a contest.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Well, I don't have a big list so I wouldn't win, but I do think this is a nice way to incentivize using the system.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alaister
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Well, I don't have a big list so I wouldn't win, but I do think this is a nice way to incentivize using the system.
      Hi Suzanne,

      Perhaps you could use Warrior Payments to launch some products and start building a bigger list.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Alaister View Post

        Hi Suzanne,

        Perhaps you could use Warrior Payments to launch some products and start building a bigger list.
        Here's the biggest reason why I don't at this point. I've worked very hard for my reputation as a seller here. Never mind that I'm sometimes too opinionated yada yada yada. My reputation as a seller is sterling. I take care of my customers and I don't ever launch half baked shoddy products and I always overdeliver.

        Every now and then a troll will hit my threads, as they do everyone else's. These are obvious trolls and mods remove them fairly quickly.

        Your rating system gives the trolls the tools to damage a reputation that I've worked very hard on. I've been monitoring the rating system carefully and it is as I expected it to be. I'm not a newcomer to rating systems. One jerk in Flippa gave me a bad rating because he asked me to do something for him and I tried to explain that I need his password to his cpanel to do that. He refused to give it to me and gave me a bad rating. So I've had to tolerate a 99% rating on Flippa for years now because of one assmonkey. Same with Elance. My rating was at least 98% and it was one or two customers who wanted to hold me hostage to give them extra service without paying for it. I know they are still great ratings, but I'm anal like that. It irks me to this day.

        Here's an example I see today:

        Seller now has a 0 rating because of:
        "so how do you implement this plug, how do you use this software. I need help configuring."

        Obviously, they should have asked the seller this question rather than rate 0 and type that in the rating system.

        Here's another one
        "product link does not work"

        This again is a technical thing that is easily fixed and should be addressed in the thread, not the rating system. This is a well known seller that now has a 0 rating.

        Another one who brought overall score down by a technical question
        "I cant install this program i dont know why , it just shows message like "The parameter is incorrect".. ;/"

        Another jerk who gave a 0 rating
        "to good to be true, I rather wait to see the reviews!"

        Obviously the above rater hasn't even reviewed the product himself.

        Two more technical glitches that weren't discussed in the thread, resulting in a 0 and 1.0 rating

        "Hi I have not received the download ;link?"
        "Erros is what I am getting"
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I think the $10K is a very generous promotion. Whoever wins is buying everyone else pizza, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Human nature is a feakin' hoot to observe... I hope some of
    you are paying close attention to what you're seeing in this thread.

    It could be worth a fortune to you.

    Think about this long and hard... an offer is made giving members the
    opportunity to earn an additional 10 large and what do you see? Lots of
    pissing and moaning about this and that.... LOL

    What does this tell you and how would you use this knowledge to increase your income?
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Human nature is a feakin' hoot to observe...
      That it is. I can tell you that this type of promo works though. It did for Jib Jab when they launched their Joke Boxes. Everybody had a joke box and put jokes in it and other members who didn't want to enter the Joke Box contest voted on the best Joke Box and the one with the most votes at the end of a month, won $5K.

      I can tell you this ... it got ugly. I won the money, but before I did, several contenders sent lies to admin. I was halted from promoting for 2 days before admin figured out what was going on and reinstated me. lol. Good times.

      But it increased membership and it certainly got their Joke Boxes filled up.
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      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Think about this long and hard... an offer is made giving members the
      opportunity to earn an additional 10 large and what do you see? Lots of
      pissing and moaning about this and that.... LOL

      What does this tell you and how would you use this knowledge to increase your income?
      Invest in the adult pampers business?

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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Do you have what it takes to be crowned the 2014 Warrior Internet Marketer of the Year?
    It's nothing more than a gimmick, than an actual award. Simple promotion to get people to use their payment system, and if they make boat loads of sales, they will pay them 10 grand of their own money collected from the fee's

    I can also tell you with 99% certainty that the 'whales' they are trying to attract with a competition like this will not bite.
    It would take one of those "whales" to win the 10k for sure.

    Doesn't jvzoo and w+ send out emails to the people on your list?
    Not only that, they beat your affiliates and even the seller to the commission. You have to send the "it's live" email first, then have it go live
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post


      Not only that, they beat your affiliates and even the seller to the commission. You have to send the "it's live" email first, then have it go live
      Thanks Alex, I wasn't sure since I never used either of them. That was the reason I never used them. Will's post made me think I had it wrong.

      I don't see a problem using the payment platforms on the forum. I just wouldn't drive traffic to those platforms.

      Why pay transaction fees/listing fees just to build their lists? Get your moneys worth and use them to build your list.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        Thanks Alex, I wasn't sure since I never used either of them. That was the reason I never used them. Will's post made me think I had it wrong.

        I don't see a problem using the payment platforms on the forum. I just wouldn't drive traffic to those platforms.

        Why pay transaction fees/listing fees just to build their lists? Get your moneys worth and use them to build your list.
        If you'd asked me if I would want Frank Kern's or W+/JVzoo list, I'd take the W+/JVzoo list every time, full of proven shiny object seekers and no tire kickers. Pure buyers list

        If you never promote products, you are still building them a buyers list just by using them. Most of the big vendors drive their own traffic, so JVzoo/W+ conveniently checks the subscribe box for them. We know how well automatically checking boxes for people, works.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Guys. I wasn't looking for an argument or fight. I won't bite. Unlike you guys I have better ways to spend my time -- you know, like helping people and making money.

    My point of view was given, based on fact. Take it or leave it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    And a few fun ones:

    Most Outrageous Sales Page with Absurd Income Claims
    Most Entertaining Sales Page
    Most Cliched Sales Page which Still Made Significant Sales
    Best Rags to Riches Sob Story
    Most ridiculous excuse for a "product."
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  • Profile picture of the author internetmarketer1
    I didn't know there was a contest like this.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficExpert
    To be honest $10k is nothing to the person who will be on the top of that list. Some people are probably breaking a million in sales with their launches in half a year. So although I like the idea of having a contest, I don't think this is the right way to go about it if you want to get the little guys involved.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
      Originally Posted by TrafficExpert View Post

      To be honest $10k is nothing to the person who will be on the top of that list. Some people are probably breaking a million in sales with their launches in half a year. So although I like the idea of having a contest, I don't think this is the right way to go about it if you want to get the little guys involved.
      But... but... but... everyone else said the big players won't play in
      this game for a variety of reasons so doesn't that almost guarantee
      that one of the "little guys" will win?

      Given that, wouldn't this be the time to start cranking it up instead
      of thinking up reasons why you can't win?

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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

        But... but... but... everyone else said the big players won't play in
        this game for a variety of reasons so doesn't that almost guarantee
        that one of the "little guys" will win?
        I think his point is...

        1. The big guys won't bother because it's chump change to them. It's not worth the damage to their list sending them to a forum offer.

        and

        2. The little guys won't bother because they will assume one of the big guys will take it out... as usual.

        If they want to get action in the WSO forum, they should instead do a contest based on sales. Any seller who makes 1,000+ sales before the end of the years gets a $1,000 bonus. Any seller who makes 2,000+ sales gets a $2,000 bonus, etc. This way each individual seller has a reason to ramp up sales... rather than just having the one prize that most people will assume is well out of their reach.
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