by JB
8 replies
Hi All,

I've been away from the Warriors site now for about 10 years - I tried logging in with my old id but it's gone, so here I am with a zero post count again! Anyway, it's interesting to note that a lot of people are still coming up with the same make $20K per month or week BS when it seems obvious to me that they aren't. I'm not trying to be argumentative but has anyone here actually MADE it?

It's just that I tried a lot of the big schemes and E-Books while working in marketing and none of it has ever worked for me - or anyone else I know for that matter. Am I wrong in saying that to actually make money online you have to treat it like 'real world' business and actually have a product or service that people genuinely want as opposed to something you think/hope that they want?? Something with real quantitative evidence behind in that it is viable.
Just wondering, how many of the current members are involved in real business that is making real money as opposed to hair-brained schemes? Not putting anyone down, just wondering? If you are actually making a real living from your business online, what kind of business is it? I have my own business so I'm not looking for ideas just trying to get a discussion going with people who are genuine.

I took over a website recently that has 25,000 members but has been going downhill due to a lack of change or activity by the previous owner. Now I am in the process of a major rebrand, redesign, recode and creative redevelopment project which I treat just like a real world exercise. Proper market research, face to face meetings with real industry experts and my own background experience. It took nearly 4 month of analysis of the site before coming up with a firm concept document for the web designers and a further 2 weeks of discussion with them to ensure we were all on the same page. Currently under development with a 12 week project time frame to completion.

Just wondering how many others here treat their business along these lines? I am a firm believer that 99.99% of online marketing theory and Ebooks are complete nonsense and that real business online is based on real marketing principals and business theory coupled with a proper understanding of the forces behind the social networking phenomenon. I would like to think that there are some Warriors who have outgrown the get rich quick approach and are applying real marketing to real online business.

Bit of a rambling intro, not intended to step on any any toes - but if anyone is on the same page I'd like to hear.

Thanks,

Dave
  • Profile picture of the author Pete Egeler
    A lot has changed in the time you've been gone, Dave.

    For example, people have learned how to post with spaces between their paragraphs so that others can more easily read what they've written!

    An old fart like me needs a Seeing Eye dog to make it through your post!

    Pete
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[921591].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author JB
      Not used to making long posts - was typing on automatic pilot, looking back at my post it does look like a bit of a wreck! Will go in and edit if I can;-)
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[921607].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by Pete Egeler View Post

      A lot has changed in the time you've been gone, Dave.

      For example, people have learned how to post with spaces between their paragraphs so that others can more easily read what they've written!

      An old fart like me needs a Seeing Eye dog to make it through your post!

      Pete
      Agreed ...

      Dave - I have only been here since Aug 2008 but I have been online for over 23 years and running my own business for more than 15 years online. Maybe I have not read the correct threads but I have not seen any "Get Rich Quick" threads posted here..

      If anything many of the older members here try to help the newbies and explain to them that there is no magic pill, there is no get rich quick.. Many post valued information to help others here.

      Marketing has evolved way beyond just some ebooks that try to give your broken promises.. There are many that produce "real" tools and services to help in marketing efforts.

      While I will agree many eBooks are nothing more than junk, you also got to understand that there are actually many digital reports that are full of great information, this information may be free someplace else but for someone to do the research it would take them months to obtain the information.

      So again maybe it is just me but I have not seen here what you seem to have seen...

      James
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[921621].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author JB
        I suppose the reason I stopped posting here years back was because at the time I was working a big firm and specialised in Internet research and marketing at bluechip level. I got dissilusioned by the lack of reality in user generated IM - so many people with blogs and sites selling ebooks etc about online marketing, coaching and how to make money from home etc. The fact was that most of these 'experts' had no clue beyond what they read in another ebook from another guy who copied from another guy etc etc. This is still the case I am sure (for the most part).

        I've have read through the first two pages of this forum and my opinion is that there is still a lot of this here. However, I have also come across some posters who I can tell know what they are talking about. It's not so much that the threads are promoting GRQ sites but that some posters ware looking for advice on creating/promoting their own GRQ site - which seems kind of crazy!

        Is it too much to ask for an online expert to actually have proven himself/herself in their field before writing about it? Surely there are better ways to be making a living online than writing about marketing?

        I agree that there are some great resources out there for developing and promoting businesses online it's just hard to cut through the BS and talk genuine business. Anyway, that's why I came back here, to see if I could share and learn with like minded people.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[921659].message }}
  • {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[921905].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    You must be hanging around with the wrong people

    I have quite a few friends who are warriors and make a full time living from IM.

    In different ways, some selling info products, some running memberships, some affiliate marketing, some selling software.

    It's not actually that strange. I personally know at least a dozen warriors like this.

    I keep changing the way I make my money as I get bored easily but I'm still doing nicely too.

    Andy
    Signature

    nothing to see here.

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[921991].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author edman
    Hello Dave,

    In a community you find different kind of people, with different backgrounds, different personalities.. and different businesses too... some are doing quite well, some are not.

    It's a large community and you can find all sorts.

    However I've been around on warrior forum and other forums too for a long time now, and I can tell you that you'll surely find a lot of good folks in here who are genuine and ready to help.

    .. Bottom line.. ask the right questions and you'll get the right answers. You shouldn't bother yourself with who say what.

    Cheers Dave and welcome back !!!!

    and also good luck on your biz too, I had something else to write regarding that but I forgot
    Signature
    Don't Google it... ASK Edward
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[922014].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author JB
      Thanks for the feedback guys, the more I look around the more good posts I find which is encouraging! Looks like I'll be sticking around again:-)
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[923004].message }}

Trending Topics