100k/month traffic for a localized online magazine/blog - how much effort?

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I started an online magazine back in January and since then traffic has grown but not as much as I had hoped it to be. Been thinking of advertising but that means allocating budget which I do not have.

The site is localized, which I had hoped would make it a good niche. It has 3 sections - Entertainment, Lifestyle, and Technology.

Should I focus on just one topic? How much effort would it take for me to get 100k visitors / month? Is there something I can do better?

The site is The hottest news and the coolest reviews for the modern Pinoy! - ASTIG.PH

Also what is an acceptable bounce rate for such a site?
#100k or month #blog #effort #localized #magazine or blog #online #online magazine #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author nouamn
    same situation on this site Tips and Tricks i make backlinks and make blog comments but still no any effect on traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author dennisonuy
    nouamn did you write all that content by yourself?
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    It will take a lot of effort to increase your traffic to that level. Just keep publishing articles and building links. Also, you may consider widening the scope of your online mag as well so you can publish articles on more topics.
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  • Profile picture of the author cyberzolo
    How much effort would it take for me to get 100k visitors / month?
    What kind of question is that? This question is undefinable, that is entirely up to you. How can anyone in this forum gauge how much effort is needed? 100k visitors a month will take ALOT of effort, I will say that.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlexanderMedia
    How localized are you? Realistically, how many readers are in your coverage area?

    My background: I'm the publisher of a local newspaper in Oklahoma that publishes about 7,000 copies per week and has about 18,000 readers. We have struggled with growing our paper's website traffic. We used to get only about 20,000 uniques per month. I've been able to raise that to about 60,000 per month. There are approximately 90,000 people in my coverage area. We have an older demographic, but that's changing.

    I'm NOT an internet marketer but am trying to learn every trick in the book. Our advertisers would be willing to pay more and we would have more of them if our UVs were up to 100,000 per month. Here is how I tripled our UVs, again, bearing in mind that I'm NOT an internet marketer so what I did will probably be laughed at by the experts on here ("OMG! That is soooooooo 2012!" HA!)

    I built up our Facebook page. That's it in a nutshell. We only had about 600 followers when I bought the company and the page wasn't being updated worth a damn. I spent $100 to promote our page on FB and targeted only those cities in our coverage area. Followers went from 600 to about 1000. Remember, these were ONLY folks from our coverage area. I did not want to pay a tiny bit of money for a ton of "likes" that have absolutely no connection to our market. A high number might look good, but what in the world does a person in Truth or Consequences, New Mexico care about eastern Oklahoma County?

    After we raised our "likes", I directed the editorial, news and sports staff to try to "tease" one story per day on Facebook. What I mean by that is that we would only post teaser text for the posted story along with the link to the story itself on our main website. Apparently, it's working because our traffic tripled in less than a month of this strategy. It's not quite 100K, but I think this tactic along with other traditional, off line marketing in our market will get us there.

    Hope this is helpful.

    Thank you for the opportunity to share.

    Shawn Garza
    Alexander Media Group, LLC / EastWord News
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    • Profile picture of the author dennisonuy
      Originally Posted by SEO Power View Post

      Also, you may consider widening the scope of your online mag as well so you can publish articles on more topics.
      Are you sure about this recommendation? Shouldn't I focus on a smaller niche - i.e. Just do "Theater"? Wouldn't I get more hits by becoming more "specialized"? Apologies if this is a stupid question, but this is what my editors are telling me and you are telling me the opposite

      Originally Posted by cyberzolo View Post

      What kind of question is that?
      I guess my question is, based on experience, is it faster to grow a site that targets a big market i.e. the USA vs the Philippines? I feel that we made the wrong move by having a .ph domain because there are more advertisers and more chance to rank on search if we targetted the USA with a .com domain and more "generalized" topics".

      Originally Posted by AlexanderMedia View Post

      How localized are you? Realistically, how many readers are in your coverage area?
      I appreciate your inputs. The Philippines is ranked #14 with 37 Million Internet users based on this Wiki page: List of countries by number of Internet users - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      In essence, we wanted our niche to be "Philippines news" vs being just another tech/lifestyle/entertainment site. However, am worried this is going to be more difficult as opposed to just creating a .com that targetted the world, or USA, in general.

      Also we are just discovering that advertising opportunities seem less in the PH vs the USA, i.e. with non-Adsense networks there is a better fill rate with USA ads vs PH.

      We do not have print publication unfortunately, we are online-only as pposed to yours. I really appreciate your input - with 18k readers I was hoping it went easier for you.

      How long did it take you to go from 0 to 20k uniques/month? How about getting to 90k/month?

      Originally Posted by AlexanderMedia View Post

      I built up our Facebook page. That's it in a nutshell.
      YES! How much interaction are you getting? We are going this direction, trying to build our social networks. Currently at 3.7k+ FB followers HOWEVER the major problem we have is engagement. The reach is so low per post around it averages only 1-2%. What is your average reach per post?

      Originally Posted by AlexanderMedia View Post

      After we raised our "likes", I directed the editorial, news and sports staff to try to "tease" one story per day on Facebook.
      Currently we post everything onto our Facebook page.What is your take on this? Is this good or bad (i.e. spammy?) Would you suggest we limit our posting to something like once per day?
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      • Profile picture of the author AlexanderMedia
        Originally Posted by dennisonuy View Post

        I appreciate your inputs. The Philippines is ranked #14 with 37 Million Internet users based on this Wiki page: List of countries by number of Internet users - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        In essence, we wanted our niche to be "Philippines news" vs being just another tech/lifestyle/entertainment site. However, am worried this is going to be more difficult as opposed to just creating a .com that targetted the world, or USA, in general.

        How long did it take you to go from 0 to 20k uniques/month? How about getting to 90k/month?



        YES! How much interaction are you getting? We are going this direction, trying to build our social networks. Currently at 3.7k+ FB followers HOWEVER the major problem we have is engagement. The reach is so low per post around it averages only 1-2%. What is your average reach per post?



        Currently we post everything onto our Facebook page.What is your take on this? Is this good or bad (i.e. spammy?) Would you suggest we limit our posting to something like once per day?
        Not sure how to do these multiquote things, so bear with me.

        The newspaper's site had been in operation for about 2 years before I took over and was sitting at around 20K per month at that point in time. It took me about 2 months to get it up to 60K. We have plateaued there because we are currently in the middle of a website CMS upgrade, so I haven't been pushing it as much.

        We too have a rather apathetic readership, but our post reach is running at about 10 to 15%. I've learned with our readers that they won't often engage positively, but they sure as hell will let you know when they don't like something!

        Remember that we are VERY local, so my experience does not include covering news of a national scope. That being said, I would not worry too much about how many posts per day you are putting on Facebook, but I would worry about the content you are posting. Ask yourself: Is the corresponding photo a good one? Is the headline catchy and does it make one want to read more? Do people care about what you're writing? I don't think actual news can ever be considered "spammy," quite frankly, but there is a fine line between being interesting and being annoying. We have a rule of thumb of posting one news and one sports story per day, but that number can go up if there is breaking news. Things like election night updates, bad weather and emergencies can generate a large number of posts in a short amount of time as we attempt to keep our readers up to date. In our coverage area, these things don't happen very often.

        One other thing I would bring up that helps us on a local level: Names. We try to fill our publication with names whether they are of each player on a certain high school's sports team or who won what prize at a fair, or even the names of every graduating student at the 10 high schools we cover. Names, names, names. It makes people pick up our paper. They may even pick up numerous copies to share with friends and family members. This is the hard copy version of "Sharing" on Facebook. People will share a Facebook post with friends if their name is in the story. Doing this same thing on a national level may be tough, but I would look for some way to implement it. Perhaps the names of the graduating classes at the various universities in the Philippines. If you happen to get some of the emails of those graduates, you could shoot them a friendly email letting them know their name is in the story and give them the link to the Facebook page (increasing the number of followers) or directly to the story. I would be inclined to send them to the FB page so that you have a follower for longer than the duration of the story itself.

        These are just some random thoughts. If I think of any others, I'll pass them along.

        Shawn Garza
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  • Profile picture of the author Ant Marshall
    How did you create your content?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      In essence, we wanted our niche to be "Philippines news" vs being just another tech/lifestyle/entertainment site.
      You've done a good job of that.

      Excuse me if I sound crazy - this is not a niche I'm familiar with....however...
      I could be wrong here, but, isn't "pinoy" used to refer to Filipino communities no matter where they are? The census lists about 3.5 million Filipino Americans in the US. Chances are many of them would have an interest in a site that featured THEIR local interests as well as current news, foods and fashion from 'home'.

      Could you expand by adding defined sections to your site that target the pinoy communities in other specific countries? You might do this by outsourcing some of the content (local restaurants - where to find Filipino items or gatherings, etc) to a local person that could highlight Filipinos in that "other" country or island.

      Could be a crazy idea - or could expand your readership quite a bit if it works.

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      • Profile picture of the author dennisonuy
        Originally Posted by Ant Marshall View Post

        How did you create your content?
        Not sure what you mean by this question, but they come from two sources. One is press releases coming from agencies or the marketing group of the companies themselves. We either post the content verbatim or make some modifications to it.

        Another source is topics that we come up with ourselves. If we see something newsworthy, or we get invited to review a product/service, or we see something we want to write about that is related to the subjects covered by the site.

        Did I answer your question?

        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        You've done a good job of that.

        Excuse me if I sound crazy - this is not a niche I'm familiar with....however...
        I could be wrong here, but, isn't "pinoy" used to refer to Filipino communities no matter where they are?
        Not sure if I have done a good job, so far it's still tough to sustain traffic without fresh, really good content. Yes Sir you are correct about the term "pinoy"

        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        The census lists about 3.5 million Filipino Americans in the US. Chances are many of them would have an interest in a site that featured THEIR local interests as well as current news, foods and fashion from 'home'.

        Could you expand by adding defined sections to your site that target the pinoy communities in other specific countries? You might do this by outsourcing some of the content (local restaurants - where to find Filipino items or gatherings, etc) to a local person that could highlight Filipinos in that "other" country or island.

        Could be a crazy idea - or could expand your readership quite a bit if it works.
        Not crazy at all! Never would have thought of this. It is going to take a bit of work but I really like this idea. Thank you so much
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  • Profile picture of the author jason19
    i own a entertainment/movie review/ general rant style site that is over a decade old. 80% of our traffic is US based.

    it took us a few years to get to about 30k a month , a few more years to double that and then a bit longer . i think we got to about 100k or so in 6th year.

    for us , we have some "signature" sections that provide a base of visitors every month, hundreds of pages that get 20+ visits a day and then the cream on top with new stuff being posted at a rate of about 3-4 a week.

    you'll just need to develop your brand, develop your twitter/facebook following (not just linking articles on them, but added stuff be it pictures or quick notes etc thats not on your main site) and build a list of subscribers. we send a weekly email summarising the week on our site and it obviously helps keeping our name in front of our traffic.

    Its a long haul
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    • Profile picture of the author dennisonuy
      Originally Posted by jason19 View Post

      it took us a few years to get to about 30k a month , a few more years to double that and then a bit longer . i think we got to about 100k or so in 6th year
      wow I wouldn't want to take that long how often do you post new content? quality of the content posted and subject/niche?

      how many subscribers do you have and how did you get them to sign up?

      would you be willing to share the link or could you PM the site? thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author dennisonuy
    Nevermind, found it on your sig
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  • Profile picture of the author alimoslehi
    95% of online business can't be successful , because only they don't have any plan. i suggest to you "write your business plan". before you start, if you have your own business plan, you never lose. business plan will tell you : your niche can be successful or not and what is your road map
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