This is how Richers get richer.

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Hi;
How your online business?
Shouldn't be hard to make some money isn't it?

In this thread, I just want to share, something that I learn through almost ten years of experiences in IM.

While making money is fun, there is more fun when the money grow by it self.
Perhaps you've come across the phrase, "Money make money".

It is simple, but can be very dangerous. Especially, when you don't balance the 'fear' and 'greed' emotions.

We are making money from IM. Let say, $1000 from affiliates, $3000 from selling own products and $1000 from other things.
So, in total, we are making $5000 that month.

From the income you make, you've to pay for tax, bills etc.
Let say, you take $4000 home.

Now, the question is, will you spend all $4000, or you'll save some portion of it?

There are few personnel money management technique you can apply.
You can apply Dave Ramsey technique. Or 6 Jars Method and so on.

While you learning the technique, why don't you just spend half of the money only.
The other half, you save it into your bank.

This is temporary.
While you adapt to investment world of course.

When you had learn where and how to invest, don't invest all the savings, instead just half of it.

Let say, you are interested into Stock Investment, so, don't use all the money buying stock.

By doing this, few years from now, you'll see, your money is expanding.
Not only from your active income (IM things and business), but also from investment itself.

ps : when my main income slapped by Google few years ago, my life was saved, by my investment.
While looking for recovery, it really help me.

Regards;
Raja Kamil
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  • Profile picture of the author Gh0zt
    Good advice - ish.

    But let me ask you a question - why would I save 50% of my income when I can spend it on good causes that would have it returned to me ten fold?

    If you are a money maker - you make money, not save money.

    However, I understand saving has it's merits - put away for a rainy day, or for the kids future, or whatever and that is fine - but again: why save money?

    Money, well fiat currency which we use - is one of the worst ways to store your wealth.

    Imagine you lived in Cypres not so long ago when thier banks robbed everybody (essentially) - they said nobody can have the money in thier accounts - then after much controvery they finally allowed thier customers to take out a maximum of £80k.

    I'll be damned if I save half my earnings for my whole life only to have 99% of it robbed from me.

    It would be much wiser to invest - and spread the investments - precious metals are a definate, but other investments too. If you want to store wealth: store it as gold.

    IDK what people say about gold - even if by some miracle mankind discovers the largest mine in history and the price crashes something rotten - it WILL climb again....

    ..Aurum potestas est

    Peace,

    Gh0zt

    Edit - Must have read your post too quickly, just re-read it and your advice is sound: essentially "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" - a nice share of wisdom, thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by Gh0zt View Post

      Good advice - ish.


      Edit - Must have read your post too quickly, just re-read it and your advice is sound: essentially "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" - a nice share of wisdom, thanks.
      The numbers are unrealistic for most people who are doing good to sock away 10% of their gross. But, regarding the STORAGE of money, in any form, it gets beat 7 days a week by CIRCULATION.

      Say for sake of example, you have made an Extra 1000 bux, and you want to let it grow. Yes, you could invest in gold, silver or copper pennies. You could put it into a long term CD or a Christmas Club savings account or a Gov't Bond...safe ways to hold onto your money. Not much better than a coffee can in the backyard.

      But how about USING it to flip some "junk" on craigslist or eBay? Maybe buy an iPhone or notebook and sell it for a small profit. Spend 300 to make 400 and after costs, your 300 made you 50. Doesn't sound like much...but do one 50 dollar profit deal a week for a year...

      You still have your 1000 bux, PLUS 50 x 50 in profit from wheeling and dealing and you have 3500, which beats the heck out of stocks and even gold for a short term investment.

      Better still, take the 1000 bux, invest in a business. I'll give you an absolutely real and verifiable example.

      You purchase two warmers, lets call them nut warmers. You place one at a golf course, the other at a bowilng alley. In North USA, you would move the golf course to a bowling alley at the end of the season.

      These are actual, figures. Your nut warmer, which cost you 350 dollars brings you between 60 and 100 dollar profits a week ea. Let's keep it low.

      60 x 2 = 120 a week x50 = 6,000 dollars.

      So, call me a nut job, but I'll take the 6 grand in passive income (for an hour a week of "work") every day over any precious metals, stones, or bank rigged investments.

      Keep your money in circulation, it's like exercise for money, and it gets stronger and stronger the more it is used. Store it and be happy if you keep up with inflation.

      gjabiz

      The nut warmer is just one of a 1001 ideas for a small from home, passive income business...but, it does require you leave the computer for a few hours a week.

      STORAGE? OR CIRCULATION? YOU DECIDE!!
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      • Profile picture of the author naidyphoon
        Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

        The numbers are unrealistic for most people who are doing good to sock away 10% of their gross. But, regarding the STORAGE of money, in any form, it gets beat 7 days a week by CIRCULATION.

        Say for sake of example, you have made an Extra 1000 bux, and you want to let it grow. Yes, you could invest in gold, silver or copper pennies. You could put it into a long term CD or a Christmas Club savings account or a Gov't Bond...safe ways to hold onto your money. Not much better than a coffee can in the backyard.

        But how about USING it to flip some "junk" on craigslist or eBay? Maybe buy an iPhone or notebook and sell it for a small profit. Spend 300 to make 400 and after costs, your 300 made you 50. Doesn't sound like much...but do one 50 dollar profit deal a week for a year...

        You still have your 1000 bux, PLUS 50 x 50 in profit from wheeling and dealing and you have 3500, which beats the heck out of stocks and even gold for a short term investment.

        Better still, take the 1000 bux, invest in a business. I'll give you an absolutely real and verifiable example.

        You purchase two warmers, lets call them nut warmers. You place one at a golf course, the other at a bowilng alley. In North USA, you would move the golf course to a bowling alley at the end of the season.

        These are actual, figures. Your nut warmer, which cost you 350 dollars brings you between 60 and 100 dollar profits a week ea. Let's keep it low.

        60 x 2 = 120 a week x50 = 6,000 dollars.

        So, call me a nut job, but I'll take the 6 grand in passive income (for an hour a week of "work") every day over any precious metals, stones, or bank rigged investments.

        Keep your money in circulation, it's like exercise for money, and it gets stronger and stronger the more it is used. Store it and be happy if you keep up with inflation.

        gjabiz

        The nut warmer is just one of a 1001 ideas for a small from home, passive income business...but, it does require you leave the computer for a few hours a week.

        STORAGE? OR CIRCULATION? YOU DECIDE!!
        I completely agree with what gjabiz said,

        An exception to the rule IMO is if you've hit critical mass.
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        • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
          Originally Posted by naidyphoon View Post

          I completely agree with what gjabiz said,

          An exception to the rule IMO is if you've hit critical mass.
          Since you mentioned Critical Mass...let's explore what this means, we probably have different takes on it.

          But, in my experience with off line remote direct response marketing, one of the metrics we used to do a Roll Out was when the tests promotions continued to return a similar result, say 3.7% for example. At that point we may go from sending out 5,000 letters to 50,000 and if that returned the same or better, then we'd go to a 100,000 at a time. Some mailings went to millions after it had reached Critical Mass.

          Now, one analyst liked to use CM for when to EXIT the deal, or when the ROI was now on the point of diminishing results. Much of the Stock market trading systems for Day Traders, Forex and Pink Sheets, all the quick buck guys rely on a similar method for LEAVING the party while they are still having fun.

          I think of CM as those examples, as well as when a Hurricane is coming your way. On the high seas, it is necessary to out run one to a safe harbor.

          SAFE Harbors are like the coffee can (savings account) in the backyard.

          And the OP talked about SAVING, and I feel Circulation is the best bet against any and all other forms of "investments", with the caveat re: Critical Mass, if you see it coming. The Spanish fleet lost tons of gold in storms they had no way of knowing about.

          Today, the ships carrying the gold use advanced weather technology to avoid the disasters.

          In my IM business, I reached a personal CM as retirement came my way, so I liquidated almost all my Intellectual Properties, but, I also became and affiliate of the person who bought it. So, I may still get a residual PayPal payment sent for a work I did 15 years ago, no longer sell or promote, just have passive web pages out there that get high Google rankings...and that is true passive income.

          But, you're idea of Critical Mass may be very different, so, what is it?

          gjabiz
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          • Profile picture of the author naidyphoon
            Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

            Since you mentioned Critical Mass...let's explore what this means, we probably have different takes on it.

            But, in my experience with off line remote direct response marketing, one of the metrics we used to do a Roll Out was when the tests promotions continued to return a similar result, say 3.7% for example. At that point we may go from sending out 5,000 letters to 50,000 and if that returned the same or better, then we'd go to a 100,000 at a time. Some mailings went to millions after it had reached Critical Mass.

            Now, one analyst liked to use CM for when to EXIT the deal, or when the ROI was now on the point of diminishing results. Much of the Stock market trading systems for Day Traders, Forex and Pink Sheets, all the quick buck guys rely on a similar method for LEAVING the party while they are still having fun.

            I think of CM as those examples, as well as when a Hurricane is coming your way. On the high seas, it is necessary to out run one to a safe harbor.

            SAFE Harbors are like the coffee can (savings account) in the backyard.

            And the OP talked about SAVING, and I feel Circulation is the best bet against any and all other forms of "investments", with the caveat re: Critical Mass, if you see it coming. The Spanish fleet lost tons of gold in storms they had no way of knowing about.

            Today, the ships carrying the gold use advanced weather technology to avoid the disasters.

            In my IM business, I reached a personal CM as retirement came my way, so I liquidated almost all my Intellectual Properties, but, I also became and affiliate of the person who bought it. So, I may still get a residual PayPal payment sent for a work I did 15 years ago, no longer sell or promote, just have passive web pages out there that get high Google rankings...and that is true passive income.

            But, you're idea of Critical Mass may be very different, so, what is it?

            gjabiz
            Thanks for the response gjabiz,

            What I actually meant was that OP's strategy is only viable for those that have exponentially increased his/her net worth via businesses,etc.. to a point where wealth preservation becomes his/her ultimate goal, and he/she is able to live off the small returns of those coffee cans, which are typically less prone to disruption. This figure is somewhat arbitrary.

            But like you said most people never ever achieve this stage, so your strategy of cash circulation would be ideal for most of "us".
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            • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
              Originally Posted by naidyphoon View Post

              Thanks for the response gjabiz,

              What I actually meant was that OP's strategy is only viable for those that have exponentially increased his/her net worth via businesses,etc.. to a point where wealth preservation becomes his/her ultimate goal, and he/she is able to live off the small returns of those coffee cans, which are typically less prone to disruption. This figure is somewhat arbitrary.

              But like you said most people never ever achieve this stage, so your strategy of cash circulation would be ideal for most of "us".
              Be the bank.

              No one has protected their wealth better than the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Mellons, etc., etc.

              Be the bank...own the land...control the food... three word formulas for Wealth Preservation which have worked for centuries..

              But, you are right, very few will reach that level, which is why keeping your investment money in circulation, especially for the less than "financially free" is in my opinion the better way to go.

              With IM, this could mean reinvesting profits into your or Someone Else's IM project and then rinse and repeat.

              So save as you go, but with the idea of making your money grow by keeping it busy.

              As the wealthy are apt to say; "Idle money is the Devil's Dance of Delight"

              gjabiz
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  • The more you save the better the economy is, that is not what "reputable" economist will tell you, they say spend it, but what made america great was savings till recently now the east save and west spends. So my advice is do what the first post said save as much as you can later when you know how invest, but if they are "reputable" or on tv be careful just go on youtube and look at their advice from 10 years ago, 99% of them where wrong there are only 1% who where correct. I know people are brainwashed not to save. And you can get wiped out if you save as well so you have to save the safe way not the wrong way like everyone is doing.

    Just my 2 cents.

    PS: Debt is bad (consumer), some investment debt could be good, but even most of that is bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Great advice. It's not wise to invest everything you have until you have enough money to fall back to in case the investment goes awry. Money can produce money, and it's easier to make more money when you have some money than to make money when you have none.
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