I Didn't Know Porn Is STILL A HOT MARKET...Even Today...

[pavondunbar]

Hi Warriors!

The year: 2009.

I guess porn is still a hot market...even today...

Here's why...

I've been doing affiliate marketing, selling ebooks, etc. for the past 2 years.

I've made some money here and there...go figure...

I create a porn incentive site...it's been in existence for a month and a half...

I already have a check coming in for $1250 on July 15th from the various porn companies I use as an affiliate (lol...since I have no content whatsoever...)

I thought "porn" was liberated years ago...that people would not pay for porn now since they can download it for free...

But I guess I was wrong...

Am I happy...yes...

Porn is so taboo because many people criticize it and talk it down...

But I guess when you are alone and it's just you, your computer, and a closed door...

Well, you know the rest...

Have a good day everyone...and a productive week...

pavondunbar

[AdInventive]

Still thriving as hard as ever. No pun intended. It's a universal constant.

It's probably a lot harder than it used to be though, especially for new people to get into.

Nice idea on the incent site twist.

[steven90210]

I agree. Porn is definitely one of the most lucrative industries online. Plus, that is the only niche i know of where competitors actually help each other by sharing their traffic! (Pls don't ask me how i knew that! )

[NexZone]

porn dating sites are offering one of the Hottest Payouts these days and conversion is yet to be much easier because of the natural attractivness, i can see after Currency Devolution Dating side is still progressing without any decline.

[Tristan Bull]

It's actually getting bigger and bigger with the introduction of all the free video sites these days

[pavondunbar]

Hey Tristan!

How did you enjoy The States...and WrestleMania?

Hope you had a blast here in the good ol USA...

Pavon

[Matt Gannon]

where do you get your backlinks though? porn blogs? lol

[pavondunbar]

Originally Posted by Matt Gannon

where do you get your backlinks though? porn blogs? lol

LOL...

No, Matt, actually...

I get backlinks from this site called findhardlinks.com...it caters specifically to porn backlinks...

Plus, I bought a book from here...a WSO...about getting targeted traffic to your adult site...

The guy selling it is IM Headlines on here...I paid $9 for the WSO...

And that book has helped me out A LOT!!! There are sooo many secrets in there I didn't even know about!

Hope this helps! Have a good day Matt!

Pavon

[Tristan Bull]

Originally Posted by pavondunbar

Hey Tristan!

How did you enjoy The States...and WrestleMania?

Hope you had a blast here in the good ol USA...

Pavon

Hey man,

Yeah had an absolute blast loved every minute of it.

Definitely going to go back soon.

Tristan

[Matt Gannon]

Originally Posted by pavondunbar

LOL...

No, Matt, actually...

I get backlinks from this site called findhardlinks.com...it caters specifically to porn backlinks...

Plus, I bought a book from here...a WSO...about getting targeted traffic to your adult site...

The guy selling it is IM Headlines on here...I paid $9 for the WSO...

And that book has helped me out A LOT!!! There are sooo many secrets in there I didn't even know about!

Hope this helps! Have a good day Matt!

Pavon

Thanks for the info, I know of a fetish niche that could be taped into pretty easily.

[Tracey_Meagher]

For anybody interested in this niche, there a huge demand growing for porn that caters to women ... just something I saw on Oprah a short while ago.

[Tristan Bull]

Originally Posted by Tracey_Meagher

For anybody interested in this niche, there a huge demand growing for porn that caters to women ... just something I saw on Oprah a short while ago.

haha really??? In what way?

[AfteraDream]

I doubt Porn will ever be not hot niche.. Guys will always need to.. relax..

I actually had thoughts like "damn.. if I could get into porn biz..that would be a lot of money"...

[TheNightOwl]

And I quote...

Originally Posted by Tristan Bull

It's actually getting bigger and bigger with the introduction of all the free video sites these days

[jimkirk1943]

Yeah thats interesting about demand for porn catering for woman, anybody got anymore infomation on this one ???

[Tristan Bull]

Originally Posted by TheNightOwl

And I quote...

Lol haha I didn't even notice i done that

[Kevin Riley]

Porn has been a hot market since shortly after man started walking around on two legs and using shells or beads to barter. Did you think that sex drive would suddenly go down in the new millenium? It will always be a hot market.

[bronnamdia]

I read somewhere on the net that that for one mainline website that exists, there are about 10 porn sites. If this statistic holds true, then there are many porn sites on the net and there are also many consumers of their product. Otherwise, there would not be many sites promoting porn.

With many producers and consumers, making money with porn will be around for a long time to come.

[yves]

Yes, I think the "adult" industry is stil booming .

Lately, I was socialbookmarking a new page on my site at stumbleupon. I clicked on the adult content button because my site is a health site and mentions various natural and pharmaceutical medications and thought the umbrella of adult included stuff like that.

Anyway once the bookmark was finished I noticed it had in small letters the word porn beside my bookmark. I tried to change it but couldnt find where to do it, so left it until the next day.

When I checked into my google analytics the next day there was over a hundred visitors to my site from stumble upon ha ha.

I did however, grudgingly manage to change the adult to non adult .

[Seoligy]

Go to dogpile.com and go to their "search spy" section.

Unclick the box that says "omit adult terms"

There are many searches, and for things you would never expect. Go Go gadget longtail.

[Sissy76]

No way! You mean sex really sells? Who would've thought ...

[copywarrior]

Haha! Mr. Riley- very well said , I must say.

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

Porn has been a hot market since shortly after man started walking around on two legs and using shells or beads to barter. Did you think that sex drive would suddenly go down in the new millenium? It will always be a hot market.

Porn, dating , relationships are some of the evergreen niches and they will continue to be popular. No doubts we writers get most of the orders in these niches. But it's fun nonetheless!

[Kyrool]

The two biggest money making industries in the world has got to be porn and gambling. As long as there are people who feed on them, these industries will, i dare say, never die. I suppose they have yet to reach a climax with more casinos and porn sites sprucing up. They will just get bigger over the coming decades.

[Shannon Tani]

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Yeah thats interesting about demand for porn catering for woman, anybody got anymore infomation on this one ???

I'm probably going to ruin my good girl reputation on this one but...

I've watched a lot of porn. It's what my friends and I used to do when we were not sober. Not watch it for sexy purposes, but watch it to make fun of and/or critique. I've seen straight porn, gay porn, lesbian porn for lesbians and lesbian porn for straight men (really, it's different), 2nd person porn (shot to appear as though the viewer is the recipient of the action. very cool.), kinky porn, porn that you wouldn't really think is porn (e.g. S&M or other fetish porn that doesn't actually involve sex), and so on.

Now, I'm no expert, but I have talked to a lot of women, either as friends, or through forums, about porn. And this is what I think...

(Follow discusses porn in detail and may not be for everyone)

A lot of mainstream porn goes something like this - Girl is just sitting there. Boy comes along and shows his hard penis. Girl thinks "A penis! Wow! I sure want to suck that!" 15 minutes of BJ, they immediately go to sex, with closeups of genitals, then the guy cums on her face. And boy does she just love that...

Well, that's not very realistic. And to most women, it's not very sexy. Seeing a penis doesn't make most women feel horny. And few women love to have cum on their face. And giving BJs doesn't turn a lot of women on that much, so watching someone else do it isn't all that hot.

Porn that caters to women tends to be more "erotic" rather than hardcore. It focuses more on foreplay than the actual in-and-out of sex. The camera angle is more pulled back, so that you can see all of what's happening. The women in it are more "real" looking -- not overly made up with breast implants.

And so on.

Of course, that's just what a lot of women I've talked to say. There are always exceptions to the rule.

"Romance products" are a good tie in if you're trying to cater to women.

Also, I know a lot of women that think that gay male porn is pretty hot. I guess it just seems more plausible that a hot gay pizza guy shows up and the other hot gay guy wants to do it with him, ya know?

Love,
Shannon

[Charles Washington]

I wrote an article on EZA a few years back titled something like "Britney Spears Nude?" Anyway, the article wasnt about her being nude. It was actually about the need for her to stop trying to be like the other bad girls of the day: Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, and those girls.

To date it has over 19,000 views!!! Get this. Since it is ANTI Britney nude, I have only had 233 clicks.

I still dont know where the traffic is coming from.

[Ken Strong]

Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery

I still dont know where the traffic is coming from.

Well, I just checked the Google AdWords keyword tool, and it says that "Britney Spears nude" gets about 301,000 searches each month... and it was probably much higher a few years back when she was at the height of her fame and in the news a lot...

[Fernando Veloso]

Thanks for the thread and for remind me that i own a great domain name about dating that i completely missed last 6 months.

[Charles Washington]

Originally Posted by KenStrong

Well, I just checked the Google AdWords keyword tool, and it says that "Britney Spears nude" gets about 301,000 searches each month... and it was probably much higher a few years back when she was at the height of her fame and in the news a lot...

Yea, I wrote it back when I was just a blogger. I didnt know what IM was, nor did I know of keyword tools

[Ray Erdmann]

Originally Posted by pavondunbar

I guess porn is still a hot market...even today...

Guess you never heard the old saying..

"SEX & INFORMATION... are the only 2 things that sell in any economy!"

:-)

I do not for see the 'sex' industry going away anytime soon...just too many horny guys (and girls mind you) out there to turn your back away from a lucrative industry...

[JohnnyPhunk]

I'm surprised people think there isn't money in porn

[madmagician]

Originally Posted by Diggyd

wow, interesting that people still pay for porn.
Im willing to bet its the 40 year old and up generation that are not computer savvy enough to know where they get it for free but want porn and dont mind paying.

there are so many free porn sites like youjizz.com

i heard of some guy making a killing selling penis pumps and viagra online

Computer savvy enough?

There are people who watch it real quick to ...you know. They go to free porn sites.
Then you have ppl who view or watch it as a hobby ...and more. They're your buyers.
Porn'll never die ...etc.

[Joe118]

Hi

Just be careful. You need to find out about the rules for what content you can use on your site. The specific rule is USC 18 Section 2257.

Originally Posted by pavondunbar

Hi Warriors!

The year: 2009.

I guess porn is still a hot market...even today...

Here's why...

I've been doing affiliate marketing, selling ebooks, etc. for the past 2 years.

I've made some money here and there...go figure...

I create a porn incentive site...it's been in existence for a month and a half...

I already have a check coming in for $1250 on July 15th from the various porn companies I use as an affiliate (lol...since I have no content whatsoever...)

I thought "porn" was liberated years ago...that people would not pay for porn now since they can download it for free...

But I guess I was wrong...

Am I happy...yes...

Porn is so taboo because many people criticize it and talk it down...

But I guess when you are alone and it's just you, your computer, and a closed door...

Well, you know the rest...

Have a good day everyone...and a productive week...

pavondunbar

[Alminc]

I always wandered how profitable porn is for the actors.
Not the porn stars, but those unknown ones.
How much are they paid for doing it in front of cameras?

[JohnnyPhunk]

I remember watching a documentary that said male porn stars in straight videos make peanuts compare to the actresses (forget how much).

But it also said that men who make a lot of money in porn are those who perform in gay films.

Originally Posted by Alminc

I always wandered how profitable porn is for the actors.
Not the porn stars, but those unknown ones.
How much are they paid for doing it in front of cameras?

[Slyknight]

"I thought "porn" was liberated years ago...that people would not pay for porn now since they can download it for free..."

Lol. Porn will always be loved. Men, Women, Teens...They all into it. Most people don't know how to get high quality porn for free. That's why it is still been paid for.

[madmagician]

Originally Posted by Razer Rage

I find it deeply disturbing on how casually you all talk about something that is known to destroy a person's life with absurd ease.

Frankly, I'm sure those who promote porn couldn't care less about the effects that their product has on their "customers", just like that man who scammed thousands out of their life savings, causing some to commit suicide, didn't care one bit. All he cared about was himself, and how much money he made, and the same can be said about those who promote porn.

A monster is a creature that preys on the weakness's of humans. If you promote porn, then you are a monster. It's a heartless truth, deal with it. If you're ready to throw your morals and the lives of many out the window, then be prepared to answer for it.

All I can say is that it is a pity that promoting porn is not a punishable offense.

Haha, oh my god. Okay.

[AdInventive]

Originally Posted by Razer Rage

I find it deeply disturbing on how casually you all talk about something that is known to destroy a person's life with absurd ease.

Frankly, I'm sure those who promote porn couldn't care less about the effects that their product has on their "customers", just like that man who scammed thousands out of their life savings, causing some to commit suicide, didn't care one bit. All he cared about was himself, and how much money he made, and the same can be said about those who promote porn.

A monster is a creature that preys on the weakness's of humans. If you promote porn, then you are a monster. It's a heartless truth, deal with it. If you're ready to throw your morals and the lives of many out the window, then be prepared to answer for it.

All I can say is that it is a pity that promoting porn is not a punishable offense.

Wait, what? Are you insane?

Replace 'porn' with 'internet marketing' or 'weight loss' or 'whatever it is you're promoting'.

All marketing preys on the weakness of humans, or it wouldn't be marketing.

Give me a break. Your morals aren't my morals. All I can say is that it is a pity that being self righteous is not a punishable offense.

PS. It's a lot tougher to promote porn on the internet then most people believe particularly because of all of the free stuff that is out there. It's actually one market that will teach you how to approach niches correctly, or fail completely.

I am pretty convinced that if you can successfully market niche porn on the internet then you can market anything.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

Porn has been a hot market since shortly after man started walking around on two legs and using shells or beads to barter. Did you think that sex drive would suddenly go down in the new millenium? It will always be a hot market.

What he said.

[Eric Lorence]

Careful, don't trip over the "soap boxes"...

[Learnanew]

It's still quite a profitable market. Competitors are known to fight really dirty though.

[sevenish]

Originally Posted by Razer Rage

I find it deeply disturbing on how casually you all talk about something that is known to destroy a person's life with absurd ease.

"absurd ease"?

I don't sell or monetize porn myself, but I see no reason why others shouldn't.

Me? I'm planning a dinner party for this weekend and I just ordered a case of champagne, a case of red Sancerre and a case of white Sancerre. I'm serving mostly shellfish so hence the Sancerre bias. Alcohol destroys the lives of those who allow it to so, of course, as can many other readily-available commodities. Does that mean I should not pour wine for my guests? Does that mean that the merchant who sold me those cases and delivered them should be ashamed to vend his product?

Look, if a man's life appears to be destroyed "with absurd ease" by the very existence and availability of pornographic media, I'm willing to bet he was looking to be destroyed by any means available.

Don't blame the messenger, and don't fight or ignore human nature.

[pavondunbar]

Originally Posted by Razer Rage

I find it deeply disturbing on how casually you all talk about something that is known to destroy a person's life with absurd ease.

Frankly, I'm sure those who promote porn couldn't care less about the effects that their product has on their "customers", just like that man who scammed thousands out of their life savings, causing some to commit suicide, didn't care one bit. All he cared about was himself, and how much money he made, and the same can be said about those who promote porn.

A monster is a creature that preys on the weakness's of humans. If you promote porn, then you are a monster. It's a heartless truth, deal with it. If you're ready to throw your morals and the lives of many out the window, then be prepared to answer for it.

All I can say is that it is a pity that promoting porn is not a punishable offense.

LMAO...

Whatever.

LMAO...

Pavon

[jimkirk1943]

Hi,
I tried to buy this product yesterday got the download though but couldn`t download it because i was missing the correct zip program on my PC tried afew times and now i`m locked out !!
Anyone help what do i need to download first ??
Jim

[jimkirk1943]

Originally Posted by Razer Rage

I find it deeply disturbing on how casually you all talk about something that is known to destroy a person's life with absurd ease.

Frankly, I'm sure those who promote porn couldn't care less about the effects that their product has on their "customers", just like that man who scammed thousands out of their life savings, causing some to commit suicide, didn't care one bit. All he cared about was himself, and how much money he made, and the same can be said about those who promote porn.

A monster is a creature that preys on the weakness's of humans. If you promote porn, then you are a monster. It's a heartless truth, deal with it. If you're ready to throw your morals and the lives of many out the window, then be prepared to answer for it.

All I can say is that it is a pity that promoting porn is not a punishable offense.

This guys kidding right ???

[pavondunbar]

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Hi,
I tried to buy this product yesterday got the download though but couldn`t download it because i was missing the correct zip program on my PC tried afew times and now i`m locked out !!
Anyone help what do i need to download first ??
Jim

What are you trying to download, Jim?

Pavon

[ken_p]

i guess it will stay for a while. people dont talk about it, but cant deny it. it human nature.

[Jani]

Originally Posted by Shannon Tani

"Romance products" are a good tie in if you're trying to cater to women.

Have to agree with you Shannon.

Around 30 percent of adult mass-market paperback sales are romances, and Harlequin is the dominant publisher of hot-body stories worldwide. According to Harlequin in 2008, it sold more than 130 million books; since its inception sixty years ago, Harlequin has shipped more than 5.7 billion books.

That's a lot of "romance products."

It would almost seem that women would rather HEAR about hot, sexy, action rather than seeing it.

[PaulSchubert]

This is a very touchy subject (no pun intended). I saw this thread yesterday and waited to see what would unfold. It is nice to see that civility maintained the upper hand. That being said...

Looking back over history, if you search the internet and look at some of the most viewed artwork of all time, you will find nudity. And, to emphasize the desire of the masses (ie: the Roman Catholic Church), you will find some of the most valuable and widely viewed nude artwork inside houses of religious worship. One could argue that the churches were responsible for promoting pornography centuries ago before postcards, before magazines, before cable television, before the internet.

Eight years ago I was commissioned to do a six month study of the effects of pornography on the internet from every aspect I could think of. The results were both interesting and impressive from purely a business perspective. I can state without hesitation that it is here to stay. It would be nothing short of impossible to shut down the adult industry on the internet, without crippling a multitude of businesses and forcing countless people to file for unemployment.

It is far-reaching to say the least. You have to consider it is more than just a site you are talking about. A simple adult site is made up of an ISP, a Host, the site owner, site designer, content provider (ie: photographer, videographer, etc.), legal representation, and the list goes on and on. Now, when you commercialize it, the complexity grows proportionally.

Adult-based sites/companies employ some of the most highly qualified and incredibly skilled web designers, photographers, artists, and videographers available. Adult-based sites actually helped lay the groundwork for that which you see every day on the internet. They helped pave the way for high quality graphics which load quickly because of graphic compression software. They helped develop video and audio compression to make streaming audio and video more effective. I could go on, but you get the picture.

Adult-based sites are not for everyone and they are not going to magically disappear. They might not be morally correct for some, but neither are alcohol or drugs. It is an individual decision whether or not to view adult-based sites.

One thing is for certain... it is big business, it is here to stay (as it has been for centuries), and people will still be debating the issue no matter the quantity of facts and figures for or against.

PAS

[Alminc]

I remember watching a documentary that said male porn stars in straight videos make peanuts compare to the actresses (forget how much).

Poor guys, working so hard for peanuts

[MaskedMarketer]

I think i read somewhere 1 in 4 (or maybe 7) clicks was porn/adult related on the internet.

An interesting read about PPC (no not pay per click) its Porn, Pills, and Casinos, is "Click".

The book was written by the guy who runs global research for hitwise. Interesting book.