I've tried lots of things. But probably need a mentor or coach..

You're a coach? Now it makes sense.

You should really hire a coach yourself . . . to learn people skills. Berating someone for stating what has been said before (even numerous times) is poor form. Often, things are repeated because they encapsulate good advice; it may also be the case that the person repeating these statements is not a regular board member, and is simply trying to impart what he or she believes to be sound advice.

"Coaches offer value that you cannot get free on the Warrior Forum."

Rubbish.

Do you hear that, people? Stop what you're doing right this second. Your posts are inconsequential. Be damned, altruism.

Having worked in this business for 20 years, I can assert with some degree of authority that information equal or greater to that imparted by coaches can be received from people on forums such as Warrior Forum. I receive such information daily, and likewise impart it.

My Advice To Newcomers

There is truly nothing wrong with paying for a coach or mentor. I advocate it. Having spent 7 years in university, I'm nothing if not a strong supporter of education. There is, however, something wrong with paying for the wrong thing or paying for it at the wrong time. In another thread, posted on WF today, a man complains at having spend thousands on such programs and learned very little. The truth is, educating yourself for free, learning the fundamentals, is the best way to go at the outset. Much (perhaps all) of the information a coach will teach you is available online. What isn't available should only be purchased when you know that you want to know it. Think of MMO education as your university career. Learn the subjects and then delve deeper into them. It is the delving deeper where we often need to pay for tutorship; specific information about an area.

I appear to have incensed Ray, but my advice comes from a good place. I want Ray to make money (if he's an honest and ethical coach), I want all worthwhile coaches to make money, but I have a real problem with people wasting money.

I disagree. I found them spurious. If you read what I posted, I was even accused of saying something that I didn't. I didn't mention WSOs. His nitpicking about my mentioning WF being free was likewise unwarranted. My remark was obviously in regard to the free areas of WF.

Thats fine. But your the one asking me to point out the nonsensical reactions you have vented towards another WF Member whose recent posts have been totally benign.