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Old 07-02-2009, 10:31 PM   #1
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Well about 2 years ago I was reading Cash Flow Quadrants and decided that internet marketing would be a awesome business model. I work in a corporate environment for a telecommunications company. I have been there for 10 almost 11 years now I have been working as a corporate slave and have seen managers come and go.

Since then I have wrote a 800 page manual for the company and a 2 week course along with videos teaching people about voice,Data,Voip and Fiber Optic technology. I won a 3 to 4 company awards over this time for technical excellence.

My point is this means nothing... After I decided to move back into a 10 hour shift position to get more time off to work on my business. It seems everything not only at work but in my personal life has hit me head on. I have been hit with so many constraints and situations in my life after deciding to take this leap.

Not only pissing off my current manager by doing so he and his subordinates have something to prove.

I was written up for the 1st time in 11 years. Everything I was wrote up for was pretty much made up to go on my record. It seems they want me out. They have been firing and writing up everyone who does not show fear. They use words like economy and you should be thankful to have a job.

It disgusts me that people have this control and use it to inflict fear in people and have them fear for their jobs. I am blogging everyday about my internet marketing experiments and adventures problems and real life situations. I haven't hit the golden egg yet but I will not give up.

I have a 2 year old daughter and wife to support. For now I will suck it up. This is not a feel sorry for me rant it is a promise to me and my family and even to you guys that I refuse to give up. No matter what. I have de-friended some of my co-workers due on Facebook and other social media. I get ridiculed for internet marketing a lot of people look at some of my videos and other things and don't get it.

Robert Kiyosaki calls this the Rat Race. Rats will eat each other and don't care about you if you are down and out they will walk over you and eat you.

This post is to motivate me and anyone who reads this to set a goal. I am blogging everyday to success.

I have made possibly 1k in the past year doing CPA,PPC,Bum marketing,Craiglist,video sales you name it but haven't yet found that niche or golden egg. I started my LLC last year to keep me motivate.

The buck stops here. My goal is 10k a month on average this is what I need to make to become free.

I look at this whole thing as like the movie the Matrix everyone in it are like batteries "coppertops". They truly don't know what it is like to become totally free. They don't want the Red pill and only take the blue pill for that sense of security.

I want truth and freedom. 10k a month to get out of the proverbial rat race. It is my goal and hope it motivates you to not fall trap to false sense of security of being overly taxed and over worked as well as under appreciated.

To all the millionaire marketers or the ones who are full time keep the dream alive I will be there to join you soon! Thanks boss for the write up you only make me want to work harder. CPA is where I will start along with my Clickbank Bum Marketing to support it.

I love you guys!

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Hello,
I work for a very large corporation that loves to do write ups to instill fear
that you will do a better job after the write up.
They allow 4 write ups in a six month period and you are out the door,most of the managers that I work with including me are on the third write up.
It is like walking on eggshells while you are at work trying to do the right thing.

Something new soon.
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It really sucks to instill fear in people especially when the economy is down. I remember when they were kissing ass during the dot com boom to keep you from leaving. I had so many offers to go places but stayed dedicated to my company it really sucks when you feel like walking on eggshells all the time. I feel you man.

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Good on you Shane for having the commitment to succeed. Stay focused on why you want to succeed online and you will definitely get there!

If you want to try something that gives fast results (although it requires a LOT of work), look for @barrywalls on the Warrior Forum and click on his sig link.

You're able to write (obviously), so what he's offering might be something you will be interested in.

I was able to give up a $75k a year job on Friday of last week and I'm only 6 weeks into his course.

Good luck, although I don't think you'll need it!

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Wow Michelle awesome advice! Congrats for breaking free! I will check this guy out definitely!

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I feel for you, that sucks bad, I think the corporate world (which I used to be in ) is a form of modern slavery that is widely excepted! Hang in there.

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I feel for you, that sucks bad, I think the corporate world (which I used to be in ) is a form of modern slavery that is widely excepted! Hang in there.
Matt you are right on that man. I saw a guy telling everyone bye after retiring today I related that to someone leaving prison after a long term lol. Got to break out this forum motivates me thanks for your post my friend!

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It is kind of like a prison, that's for sure! Breaking free is an amazing feeling though!

I remember seeing the looks of envy on my coworker's faces as I walked out last Friday too - but the funny thing is, not one of them asked me how I got to where I am or how they could do what I do - except one who offered to be my personal secretary!

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Shane,
I feel for you mate. I too was in a similiar position to you, working a government job, miserable and just over it. I didnt get along with my boss, disliked many of my co-workers and was completely surrounded by this, "You HAVE to have a JOB" mentality. I think the worst part was knowing that there had to be something more to life, than sitting at a desk every day staring out the window, wondering what my 1 hour drive home would be like - stuck in traffic.

Just as you have, I read Cashflow quadrant, amongst numerous other books, including rich dad poor dad, and I can honestly say, that i have changed my life. No longer am I subjected to BS meetings, annoying managers, and office gossip - Im now working from home, running my internet businesses - infact im typing this is my pyjamas! Its 2pm here

Anyway, my point is this, I can relate to your situation, and whilst it will be extremely frustrating for you, it CAN change, and will!

My best advice would be to get your butt to as many IM seminars as possible. Honestly, attending them will accelerate your way forward immensely. Even if you dont learn something from the speakers, you may end up sitting next to someone who makes that $10K a month, and they may just end up showing you how they do it!

Forget about those dumbarse managers - to your success mate!!!

Good luck.

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I feel for you mate. I too was in a similiar position to you, working a government job, miserable and just over it. I didnt get along with my boss, disliked many of my co-workers and was completely surrounded by this, "You HAVE to have a JOB" mentality. I think the worst part was knowing that there had to be something more to life, than sitting at a desk every day staring out the window, wondering what my 1 hour drive home would be like - stuck in traffic.

Just as you have, I read Cashflow quadrant, amongst numerous other books, including rich dad poor dad, and I can honestly say, that i have changed my life. No longer am I subjected to BS meetings, annoying managers, and office gossip - Im now working from home, running my internet businesses - infact im typing this is my pyjamas! Its 2pm here

Anyway, my point is this, I can relate to your situation, and whilst it will be extremely frustrating for you, it CAN change, and will!

My best advice would be to get your butt to as many IM seminars as possible. Honestly, attending them will accelerate your way forward immensely. Even if you dont learn something from the speakers, you may end up sitting next to someone who makes that $10K a month, and they may just end up showing you how they do it!

Forget about those dumbarse managers - to your success mate!!!

Good luck.

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LOL you summed my post up very nicely worded. I want to get to some of those seminars. Being placed on the eggshell factor today. I look at my 2 year old daughter and my wife of 10 years and feel like I can do better. You ship your kids to daycare pick them up only to put them to bed and time flies by so fast you spend your time around people at the office you mentioned above.

It doesn't matter where you go or what you do. You are faced with the same make and mold of people. The backstabbers,The water cooler gossip mongers, and the power hungry ex marine bosses who want you to conform to their fear tirade. I have only one life and I have decided to live it starting today!! Thanks for your post man!

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Dude, seriously its the LEAST I could do!

No joke, I HATED going to work. Honestly, I could write the longest post ever about it! Each day was an absolute drag. I remember getting into trouble one day for being 4 minutes late to my desk - I quit the next day. I also remember that dreaded sit in traffic each and every day. Some days it used to take me 1.5 hours to get to work. I would sit in the SAME section of road, surrounded by the SAME people, infact there were some cars that I began to remember because I KNEW THEIR NUMBER PLATES!!!

How sad is that???

Id look to the left of me at the trafffic lights and to the right, and people would be sitting in their cars with this miserable look on their faces! Oh god, I dont miss that at all! I made a little song about it ...it goes....

"first gear, second gear, yell brake horn, first gear, second gear, yell brake horn..!"

It literally did my head in.

And that was just getting to work! Once there I would be surrounded my small minded, simple people who wanted to whinge about how they had no money, or the bills were mounting up, or even worse, the dreaded "elevator talk"!!!!

"So Jim, how was your weekend..?"

"It was good thanks Sarah, and yours..?"

"Fine thanks..."

Then they stare forward mindlessly, like ROBOTS!!!!!! These people are like SHEEP!!!

I remember seeing two work colleagues actually almost having a fist fight over a parking spot!!

Oh man, seriously - i couldnt think of anything worse than being back at work - I would rather throw myself under a city council bus!

Oh and did i mention annoying managers who follow you around all day, asking "Is there a problem?, when will it be fixed? what time can i expect ....?"

And even worse, when they try and pull the fear factor on you.

"Oh John, you know that so many people are trying to get into IT, and theres just no jobs...infact people are being sacked everywhere at the moment, you really should be grateful that you have a job..."

Grateful?????

Give me financial freedom and choices in life - THEN ILL BE GRATEFUL!!!!

Sorry mate, going off on a rant here - I could go on forever, but i wont.

If you want more, let me know, because i HATE WORK!!!

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Dude, seriously its the LEAST I could do!

No joke, I HATED going to work. Honestly, I could write the longest post ever about it! Each day was an absolute drag. I remember getting into trouble one day for being 4 minutes late to my desk - I quit the next day. I also remember that dreaded sit in traffic each and every day. Some days it used to take me 1.5 hours to get to work. I would sit in the SAME section of road, surrounded by the SAME people, infact there were some cars that I began to remember because I KNEW THEIR NUMBER PLATES!!!

How sad is that???

Id look to the left of me at the trafffic lights and to the right, and people would be sitting in their cars with this miserable look on their faces! Oh god, I dont miss that at all! I made a little song about it ...it goes....

"first gear, second gear, yell brake horn, first gear, second gear, yell brake horn..!"

It literally did my head in.

And that was just getting to work! Once there I would be surrounded my small minded, simple people who wanted to whinge about how they had no money, or the bills were mounting up, or even worse, the dreaded "elevator talk"!!!!

"So Jim, how was your weekend..?"

"It was good thanks Sarah, and yours..?"

"Fine thanks..."

Then they stare forward mindlessly, like ROBOTS!!!!!! These people are like SHEEP!!!

I remember seeing two work colleagues actually almost having a fist fight over a parking spot!!

Oh man, seriously - i couldnt think of anything worse than being back at work - I would rather throw myself under a city council bus!

Oh and did i mention annoying managers who follow you around all day, asking "Is there a problem?, when will it be fixed? what time can i expect ....?"

And even worse, when they try and pull the fear factor on you.

"Oh John, you know that so many people are trying to get into IT, and theres just no jobs...infact people are being sacked everywhere at the moment, you really should be grateful that you have a job..."

Grateful?????

Give me financial freedom and choices in life - THEN ILL BE GRATEFUL!!!!

Sorry mate, going off on a rant here - I could go on forever, but i wont.

If you want more, let me know, because i HATE WORK!!!

John
Man it is the same everywhere lol no change in job just scenery haha

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I had similar experiences to yours in the rat race. When I think back I can't believe the life I lived and the crap I put up with. But all of that only helps when you finally get freedom - if you haven't had rat race experiences that resemble prison, you might not have the determination to get through the challenges that arrive once free.

So in other words, all that crap you are going through is not a waste - it's fuel for the engine that will get you somewhere better.

I guess the main thing that I was unaware of at the time, was how the rat race keeps you uninformed, stifles your initiative and sucks away all of your drive and time. If everyone talked seriously at the water cooler about breaking out every day (and meant it) things would be different - but they don't - so they have to justify their decision to be where they are, so what happens is that everyone helps to maintain everyone elses (and their own) employee mindset.

When you are surrounded by sheep, you become one too. It seems like there really is no escape because no-one near you has any hope and those who have freedom and success seem to live in a different world.

Stay as determined as you sound now and you will escape the matrix. It's scary stepping into the unknown, but when you look back, you wonder how you ever survived in that sheep pen.

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The funny thing is, with REAL rats this is an urban myth. Read the lyrics to Rats (caution - profanity) by Pearl Jam and you'll see how it's humans who are the real 'rats'.

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Michelle, I searched for @barrywalls, barry walls and barrywalls - no results... ?

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I found only the signature for Barry Walls myself for strategicoutsourcing.com on Michelle's post.

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I'm sorry Shane, instilling fear at such a time is downright cruel.

The only way to hit back is to work a little hard and become financially independent.

People always say money is evil, and like rich dad I too feel the lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Here's how you deal with the Lumburghs - Damn It Feels Good to be a Gangsta


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I have made possibly 1k in the past year doing CPA,PPC,Bum marketing,Craiglist,video sales you name it but haven't yet found that niche or golden egg.
Can you guess why you made $1K in a year rather than $1K in a week or even a day?

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Here's how you deal with the Lumburghs - Damn It Feels Good to be a Gangsta

YouTube - Office Space Damn It feels good to be a gangsta scene



Can you guess why you made $1K in a year rather than $1K in a week or even a day?
Haha thanks that is just what I needed!! I love that movie!!

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Give 'em hell, brother. I work for Hewlett Packard (an awful employer) and our site finally got chopped by the greedy pocket lining CEO Mark Hurd. (the employees call him Mark Turd)

Anyway, between my severance, unused vacation pay, and stock options cash out, and state unemployment benefits I should be okay for a bit. I have been studying all of these successful people and have a plan that I have already put into practice. My challenge is traffic but I have tackled that.

JUST STAY POSITIVE. Screw these corporate assholes. Watch the movie Office Space for motivation to get out. I am sick of the wage slave lifestyle too. You can work your ass off and you get nothing for it but fear and brow beating. At least with this stuff you work hard and once you figure it out the harder you work the more you make.

I can say this. Even with the uncertainty and the idea of being "unemployed", I am relieved that it's over and I no longer have to work for an evil company like HP and that I am not going to be doing the job interview jump through flaming hoops. I am a technical guy and job interviews are awful. They give you all sorts of tests and oral exams. It's horrid.

I have taken not to telling people that I am heading for "unemployment", but that I am going to be self employed. I even tell the pointy headed managers where I work that I am happy to be heading out for self employment. They roll their eyes but I don't care. Screw 'em.

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There is the corporate world, then there is our own corporate world.

Which would you rather choose???

It's the same thing with the economy.

There is the world's economy, then there is your own economy.

Sounds better, feels better, works better when you own it yourself.
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I imagine that many of us also hold down jobs, while trying to IM. I keep myself motivated by reminding myself that I reason I work is not for my boss, but is for my family .

Hang in there man. No matter how bad it gets, remember the important things in life are outside of your workplace.
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Shane,

I wish you the best in your endeavors to free yourself from the corporate rat race.

I have not yet entered this corporate world, so I want to liberate myself right now, not later.

You should not take this as a setback, but as more motivation to dedicate yourself to IM.
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In my case, I was a contractor/comsultant, and I got to see a lot of this crap from the inside, but as an outsider. It always amazed me.

Every team I managed always kicked ass, even when it was staffed with the corprorate guys.. and that's because my loyalty went DOWN the ladder, not up.

I wasn't liked by the other managers, and they always insisted my teams success had to be because I was getting the talent.

Well, they were right in some aspects - but unlike them, I nurtured and enabled the talent instead of stiffeling them and managing them like I was the shift manager at the local McDonalds. Hire good people, stay a few steps ahead of them to clear any hurdles from their path, let hem share the spotlight and glory, and otherwise stay the hell out of their way - that was my approach.

I realized that people are naturaly motivated and want to do a good job, and that it's crappy managers and ****ty work environments that crush the excellence out of people.

nope - I wasn't liked by other managers at all

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Marc, did you find his profile? If not, here it is: www.warriorforum.com/members/barry-walls.html

I only got rid of my boss (who was actually quite a good one!) last Friday, and being in total control of my income is kind of scary but it's also extremely empowering!

For a long time now I've read posts on the WF of people who had the luxury of working for themselves and I always said I would be just like them one day. Focus and commitment is the key to success IMO.

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Sounds like you are taking the right steps to move towards a better future for you and your family.

In the corporate world you are dealing with egos and politics. You work and build and make the company money and they show their appreciation by giving you a pink slip. You leave with only whatever income you generated.

When you work for yourself you have your own assets that you have developed.

I wish you well as you transition into a more autonomous state. I gave up on the corporate life to many years ago to even care.

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Shane, it's good to see that you woke up from the zombification of modern society. I suggest you read some Freud and Fromm.

I have felt the same way for a long time. I'm in the public sector (as you can infer from my handle) and I can empathize with you.

I have built up a successful site thus far (I'm always driving myself to improve and build). I'll tell you what has been a helpful motivator...

Every time you sit down to your computer, think back to your job, your boss, the monopolization of your mind, and making life better for your family.

It helped me, I hope it will help you.
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Lily Tomlin once said "Even if you win the rat race, you are still just a rat."

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Just got back to computer and saw all these replies, this is why I love this forum it seems we all kind of understand each other! We get it ! Thanks guys for the motivation!

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I was once an outside salesrep for a major plantation shutter manufacturer. During my one week training, the other sheep in the class hardly asked ANY questions.

I, however, wanted to know every detail so that I wouldn't run into any obstacles in the field. Well, my LOVELY manager did not like that and she started watching me like a dog.

I worked there for 6 months until she finally managed to get rid of me. How did I do in sales? Sold MORE than average and got a BONUS every month. Come January, I only sold for $33,000 (40k was the average) and she let me go. Still can't forgive the f****n bitch, lol!

Yep, work hard at your online biz and you WILL succeed, best of luck, Eva
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Here's how you deal with the Lumburghs - Damn It Feels Good to be a Gangsta

YouTube - Office Space Damn It feels good to be a gangsta scene



Can you guess why you made $1K in a year rather than $1K in a week or even a day?
Great Movie and great that you put the YouTube clip! I had watched the DVD something like 4 times or so and I still will enjoy it another time.
I am also a wage slave at the moment and have a side business, which I hope to grow into something that is sustainable. I only hope it happens faster than what it is now....
I think, for all you warriors out there who are ex-corporate type wage slaves, it would be interesting if you could compile your success stories of how you broke free from the rat race-would an inspiration to all of us here, who are on the fringes- out of the rat race mentally, but physically still present in their offices.
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Can you guess why you made $1K in a year rather than $1K in a week or even a day?
Can you give us the answer-is it mindset? Or something else?
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Can you give us the answer-is it mindset? Or something else?
He said, "I have made possibly 1k in the past year doing CPA,PPC,Bum marketing,Craiglist,video sales you name it but haven't yet found that niche or golden egg."

Two potential problems I see.

First, is lack of focus. It's OK to try out different business models if you have the luxury of time and money. If you don't, it's best to focus on one model of making money online and work it unless it's successful.

Second, is looking for "that niche or golden egg" when the real answer, an unexpected answer, might be close at hand.

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Second, is looking for "that niche or golden egg" when the real answer, an unexpected answer, might be close at hand.
Wow! Excellent speech at that link above, everybody should read it, has a moral in it for all of us who are chasing the "pie in the sky"!
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@Shane - yes, as bgmacaw notes, maybe your next challenge is to figure out where/how $1k p.a. becomes per month then per week...set a new goal, and off you go again.

I guess you're unlucky with the less than stellar line managers you have right now - but then again, nothing's for sure these days, and those guys/gals could be out before you??

As far as motivation goes IMHO - Here's one of the best songs Tears For Fears ever did - music, lyrics, video - seems just right for what's being discussed here.

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People will always use fear to try and pull you back into line when you start to threaten them in some way. Your desire to change your life and that of your family's is threatening to your co-workers because in actual fact, they would LOVE to be doing what you're doing. Following your dream and making it work.
They're projecting their own frustrations onto you because your deisre and action for another way of living highlights the drudgery of their own lives and their inability to create the life they want.
You don't have to absorb these projected frustrations. They probably aren't going to stop until you leave your work, but only you can choose the effect that these projections have on you.
This is where your roadblocks are coming from. You're absorbing the negativity from these co-workers and you're sabotaging yourself. Getting to your goal will take as long as you truly BELIEVE it will take. You may WANT it tomorrow, but your internal belief system is probably saying something like "Yeah, but, it's going to be a hard slog and take at least 6 months to get there".
You will produce the reality you believe you deserve.
Change can happen VERY quickly if you believe it can.
Whatever your co-workers throw your way, let it pass you by. Accept it as their issues and not yours. You don't have to prove anything to them or anyone else, just to yourself.
In 10 years time, you probably won't even remember their names, so why do their actions and words matter so much today? They don't.
So, worst case scenario is losing your job? Is it going to kill you? If you lost your job today, you would still have your family, you'd still be living in a free and democratic country, you would be ok. You'd also have one hell of a motivator to start making your goal money NOW!
This life you have is a precious thing, let the nay-sayers be, don't waste your energy on them.
Focus on how many helpful people there are in your life now and those waiting to come into it. I promise, you'll be having a beer on the porch and laughing at your old job in no time.

Take care,
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It is kind of like a prison, that's for sure! Breaking free is an amazing feeling though!

I remember seeing the looks of envy on my coworker's faces as I walked out last Friday too - but the funny thing is, not one of them asked me how I got to where I am or how they could do what I do - except one who offered to be my personal secretary!
Bravo to you Michelle!!
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There was a woman who worked as the big bosses receptionist during my time at local government. After 27 years of working there, she resigned, and in thanks they held a small morning tea, to which they gave her a $12 pot plant.

I kid you not. 27 years, for a pot plant.

Seeing that frightened the hell out of me.
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There was a woman who worked as the big bosses receptionist during my time at local government. After 27 years of working there, she resigned, and in thanks they held a small morning tea, to which they gave her a $12 pot plant.

I kid you not. 27 years, for a pot plant.

Seeing that frightened the hell out of me.
A local shoe store had a sales assistant work for them for 25 years, small family business - she no longer receives a discount of ANY kind.
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