How much traffic is needed to make 10K monthly revenue in this niche ?

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How much traffic would be needed to make 10,000 $ a month through adsense and other sorts of advertisements like amazon , etc .. when you're in a niche like directories or classifieds sites ? I know , I know , you can not give me an accurate number , but what would be your guess or estimation as far as monthly traffic goes if you own this type of site ? Please people , DO NOT be rude like some of the users here calling other users stupid .. Please act nice , if you don't know or feel like answering , simply ignore . I've seen some disturbing posts by rude people on this forum . I'm just trying to shoot for a traffic goal in my SEO work .
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr los3
    I would say around 20k page views a day.
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    • Profile picture of the author mase857
      Originally Posted by Dr los3 View Post

      I would say around 20k page views a day.
      would that guess be with adsense alone or combining it with other sorts of monetizing ?
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    Highly depends on the way you monetise your site, the type of audience you attract and the amount of people you bring to the site. Remember a it isn't the people looking for classifieds which make you money, its the people who are posting the classifieds. You will want to add things like, extra 5 pictures for a dollar, your ad will display at the top of the page for x amount etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by mase857 View Post

    I know , I know , you can not give me an accurate number

    Mase,

    What you said above says it all. I don't think it's rude to say that your statement above acknowledges that there are so many variables in the sources and kind of traffic you receive that giving any kind of meaningful answer is just impossible. In addition, there are wide variables in Adsense earnings, the commissions available at Amazon, and the willingness of web site visitors to pay attention to your revenue generating links.

    I'm not trying to be rude . . . it's just that the best and only correct answer is "it all depends" on multiple factors which no one knows at this point. To make $10K/month could take 1,000 or 1,000,000 daily views.

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      If you really need a ballpark figure (and it will be a huge ballpark), see if you can get a handle on the Adsense cost per click in your niche. Multiply it by ~0.67. That's about how much a click is worth to you as the publisher.

      Now take that number and divide it into your $10K. That's about how many clicks you need each month.

      Research to find the average click-through rate for ads on your type of site.

      From that you can swag* how many visitors you need.

      You can do the same with multiple ad sources, like Adsense + Amazon. There are just more terms in the equation.

      * SWAG = Scientific Wild-Ass Guess, similar to a WAG but with some reasoning behind it.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    If you want to make $10,000 per month with Adsense....

    Assumption:
    CTR 3%. EPC $0.2. Language of a website is English. Note: this data is based on my own experience.

    Let do the math:
    $10,000 per month / EPC $0.2 = 50,000 clicks per month.

    50,000 clicks / CTR 3% = 1,666,667 visitors per month
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
      Originally Posted by himanuzo View Post

      If you want to make $10,000 per month with Adsense....

      Assumption:
      CTR 3%. EPC $0.2. Language of a website is English. Note: this data is based on my own experience.

      Let do the math:
      $10,000 per month / EPC $0.2 = 50,000 clicks per month.

      50,000 clicks / CTR 3% = 1,666,667 visitors per month
      sometimes I wonder ...if NO clicks of course will be less earnings isn't
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      • Profile picture of the author mase857
        Originally Posted by Devilfish168 View Post

        sometimes I wonder ...if NO clicks of course will be less earnings isn't
        Well I hear that you also get paid for impressions through adsense .. isn't it right ? I'm working hard on SEO right now to build a that kind of traffic in a year from now .
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        • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
          Originally Posted by mase857 View Post

          Well I hear that you also get paid for impressions through adsense .. isn't it right ? I'm working hard on SEO right now to build a that kind of traffic in a year from now .
          true but clicks is more ..

          Now my adsense earning sucks perhaps i revamp the site ..is "new"

          thus every daily impression only 30++ ....just cents...

          but clicks is more of course encounter last time ...just few clicks already can earn 1 or 2 dollars ..
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      • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
        Originally Posted by Devilfish168 View Post

        sometimes I wonder ...if NO clicks of course will be less earnings isn't
        So, you do experiment few website layouts or few Adsense placement locations. You choose best layout or best Adsense placement for CTR.

        My average CTR is 3%.

        You can make the CTR become better at least 5% if you find a good website layout for Adsense.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rajib882
      Originally Posted by himanuzo View Post

      If you want to make $10,000 per month with Adsense....

      Assumption:
      CTR 3%. EPC $0.2. Language of a website is English. Note: this data is based on my own experience.

      Let do the math:
      $10,000 per month / EPC $0.2 = 50,000 clicks per month.

      50,000 clicks / CTR 3% = 1,666,667 visitors per month
      This is close calculation.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    Approach it from a goal revenue per 1 thousand visitors (RPM). With smart Adsense and Media.net ad placement you may get $10 to $18 RPM. Add some Amazon CPM ads (new ad network) plus some other monetization with testing, you might get to $20 RPM.

    With a $20 RPM you would need 500,000 monthly pageviews to earn $10,000 per month.

    This is obcviously a WAG as John so eloquently puts it.

    I like approaching monetization with goal RPM metric because it forces me to constantly test new monetization constantly incrementally increasing RPM each month.

    Let's say you achieve a $15 RPM and your goal is $20 RPM, that forces you to explore more monetization options... thinking incrementally because every little bit adds up. In this case you might then offer banner ad rentals and paid listings which can add another $3 RPM. Then you need $2 more RPM, so you add images on the site and add in-image ads which can add pay out $2 RPM.

    The point is get your main monetization going and then constantly try new methods always striving to increase RPM.

    Obviously, the other way to earn more is to get more page views, which can be done with website tweaks that encourage more pageviews per visit.

    It may well be that display ads perform even better for a classified site. I don't know because I don't publish one. $20 RPM is a WAG, but in my experience very doable. I earn more than that, but it's not a classified site.
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    Your niche is not really a niche. Also people need to stop focusing on 'how much traffic'. There is a big difference between traffic and quality traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author jgant
      Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

      Your niche is not really a niche. Also people need to stop focusing on 'how much traffic'. There is a big difference between traffic and quality traffic.
      This is a very good point. My RPM varies greatly across traffic sources. Test different traffic sources and then obviously focus on the sources that generate a higher RPM.

      I suggest you link you Analytics account with your Adsense account for more in-depth Adsense revenue data.
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  • Profile picture of the author vishwa
    No One can speculate your profits from the number of traffic coming to your site. Its all depends on your content and what you have offer to your users.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    5,548,368 hits per day with or without Adsense.

    That's as accurate as any other number based on
    knowing absolutely nothing about you... your design
    skills... your copywriting skills... your SEO skills or
    basically... anything that actually matters.

    Do you know why people get what you think are rude answers?

    Because they ask ridiculous questions. We can't help you based on what you've asked.

    There's an old, old saying that is absolutely true and is particularly
    relevant to this thread...

    "The successful people aren't the ones with all the
    right answers. They're the ones with all the right questions."

    You need to ask better questions if you hope to become successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    There are too many variables to give you a reliable range.

    I would say in general it takes 1 million+ page views per month to hit the $10,000 figure. It could be lower, perhaps half that, but it comes down to the value of the viewers.

    You mentioned directory and classified sites. Those are both popular entry level projects for newbies. I wouldn't expect to make much of anything from them. They are difficult to get traffic to. Google does not rank directory sites well, so where will you get the traffic? Classifieds sites suffer from the "empty social network" dilemma where nobody wants to be there because nobody else is there (in other words, where will the initial ad placements come from?).
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  • Profile picture of the author BizMath
    Originally Posted by mase857 View Post

    Please people , DO NOT be rude like some of the users here calling other users stupid .. Please act nice , if you don't know or feel like answering , simply ignore . I've seen some disturbing posts by rude people on this forum . I'm just trying to shoot for a traffic goal in my SEO work .
    JUST ONLY ONE TRAFFIC!. I'll teach you how?

    Find an Affiliate product, Price $20,000, Affiliate Commission =50%, CR = 100%
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  • Profile picture of the author SanwalC
    In my opinion, roughly 20,000 views/day is what you should expect. It can be a bit higher or lower depending on your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stilliwander
    Allow my guesstimates.
    Amazon commision will vary too wildly for estimates, Adsense however for 90% of ads (to my knowledge) range in click earning from $0.2 to $0.8 depending on nieche. Conversion rates range from 0.1% to 3% again depending on nieche and page conversion optimalisaion. The only factor left is page views ( not members, since its the pageview event that contain if or not ad is clicked). So with that data:

    Earnings Per Click: 0.2 <= A <= 0.8
    Conversion Rate: 0.001<= B <= 0.03
    Pageviews = P

    A x B X P = 10,000

    Lower Margin ( Worst Case) : 0.2 x 0.001 x P = 10,000
    0.0002 x P = 10,000
    P = 50,000,000

    Upper Margin ( Best Case) : 0.8 x 0.03 x P = 10,000
    0.024 x P = 10,000
    P = 416,666

    So between 416,666 and 50,000,000 pageviews depending on conditions.

    But again im talking average, some niches have $40 per click and others $0.01 per click. But the majority fall between 0.2 and 0.8.
    I understand why you want to know about these things, its good to have somewhere to aim in terms of traffic. But do listen to the 3 star generals, they dont have 1000+ thanks for no reason. You could have 1000 pageviews a month and convert that to $10k, and you can have 1 mil pageviews that convert to loose change. But i know you know that. Hope ive helped
    Dont give up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Originally Posted by mase857 View Post

    How much traffic would be needed to make 10,000 $ a month through adsense and other sorts of advertisements like amazon , etc .. when you're in a niche like directories or classifieds sites ? I know , I know , you can not give me an accurate number , but what would be your guess or estimation as far as monthly traffic goes if you own this type of site ? Please people , DO NOT be rude like some of the users here calling other users stupid .. Please act nice , if you don't know or feel like answering , simply ignore . I've seen some disturbing posts by rude people on this forum . I'm just trying to shoot for a traffic goal in my SEO work .
    Raw estimate

    CPC is $.10
    CTR is 2%
    $10,000 / 30 days = $333.34 per day

    In order to make $333.34 a day you must have 166,670 impressions a day

    166,670 x 2% ctr = 3,333.34 clicks x $0.10 cpc = $333.34 x 30 days = $10,000.2

    Source:
    Data on one of my sites having 10K impressions a day making $20
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  • Profile picture of the author iype
    It depends on lot of factors as pointed out above. The location, CPC determined by the content on your page etc. I have heard of an unbelievable CPC of about $75.
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  • Profile picture of the author anynewsbd
    I saw how comments on that post so i got some good knowledge from that so thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Trujillo
    All have said helpful tips for the original poster. My biggest recommendation is if you want to get to the 10k mark is to study how to build an email list. Study your niche, and build a list of subscribers. Follow up with helpful tips and recommendations and learn how to make profitable sales funnels. If you build a solid list that knows, likes and trust you and you have solid funnels in place, than it is very possible to get to the 10k range if you are really determined.
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  • Profile picture of the author spearce000
    How long is a piece of string?

    How much you make depends on the conversion rate. Start with that number and work backwards.
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  • Profile picture of the author onlineleben
    check out this to find out what is possible (ok, it is more amazon than adsense, but monetization)
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...000-month.html
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