Ray, don't take things to heart in your thread. Bill is a good man too and is a good marketer. If you want to get on Skype tomorrow and have a chat, I may be able to get you in a better frame of mind. I don't sell any make money products so I won't be trying to sell you anything. I'm just offering to give you a hand. Like I said though, don't take anything to heart, you've had a lot of well thought out responses and good advice. If you want to chat, send me a PM and we can swap Skype details.