The existence of The Creator Of All Things

Maximillion_Z · 09-16-2009, 07:44 PM

Hi,

Something to think about.

There is a method that will help all who are in any kind of conundrum as to whether God exists or not. I use the word "God" only as a sufficient word. The meaning I try to show is that of "creator of all things".

Try this whenever you can today - it's very easy.

Do whatever makes you comfortable to offer prayer or try to communicate.

As an alternative, simply sit or stand and hold your hands palms upwards.

and ask the question along the following lines:

"please give me a sign that you exist"

I absolutely guarantee that it will be answered.

But please bare one thing in mind. The way that your question is answered is not always the way you think or expect. Please keep an open mind...

Thank-you for reading.

soffell · 09-22-2009, 03:29 AM

Whatever your religion I know ...
GOD is the best to ask ... to praying ...

Thanks to GOD Thanks for your post

Jack Chua · 09-22-2009, 08:39 AM

We should give back the glory to God who created us and gave us the talent in the things we do best. God bless everyone.

socksiong · 09-22-2009, 10:29 PM

God is very near

.

Marklouis · 09-23-2009, 01:02 AM

God persists everywhere around us ..
In the nature
In the heart of kindness
In a baby's smile
In a person who is altruist...
God bless everyone...

zim · 11-09-2009, 07:31 AM

God definitely exists and one does not need to ask him for a sign as a proof of his existence. Instead, signs of God's existence are all around us - but we need a true eye to see these signs. I am an avid watcher of National Geographich where I have seen some amazingly complex ways in which animals hunt. I for one do not believe in the theory that animals have learnt all this through evolution.
Again if we look at the sun, moon and the earth and their complex relationship, I don't think that all this came about as a result of an accident.

MardelInno · 11-09-2009, 07:45 AM

hmm, nothing happened

guess that means there is no creator after all

Ian Jackson · 11-09-2009, 07:55 AM

"god" is just a label or noun that one can apply to anything (hence no upper case "g"); in the usual context - to that (any) entity in which one believes - or otherwise.

I could call my front door "god"; who has authority to say otherwise.

eBizSuccessCoach · 11-09-2009, 09:54 AM

It's not enough to say that God is "the creator of all things." When saying that it implies that something had to create God. Think about that for a moment.

God can never be created nor destroyed. This presence that we call God "is" everything in existance. God surrounds us, flows through us... "is" us!

So God is not the creator of all things. God "IS" creation!

Ian Jackson · 11-09-2009, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eBizSuccessCoach

It's not enough to say that God is "the creator of all things." When saying that it implies that something had to create God. Think about that for a moment.

God can never be created nor destroyed. This presence that we call God "is" everything in existance. God surrounds us, flows through us... "is" us!

So God is not the creator of all things. God "IS" creation!

That's about right but why not just substitute god and say "creator" instead? - and if using upper case "G" for god, why not for Creator?

Anyway, the way I see it, all things originate from THOUGHT, whatever entity created/had the thought in the first place... hmm

An infinite intelligence, yet to be understood by the human race

eBizSuccessCoach · 11-09-2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Jackson

That's about right but why not just substitute god and say "creator" instead? - and if using upper case "G" for god, why not for Creator?

Anyway, the way I see it, all things originate from THOUGHT, whatever entity created/had the thought in the first place... hmm

An infinite intelligence, yet to be understood by the human race

You are right my friend. It's just a westernized term that we associate with this Divine Wisdom or Divine Intelligence or Creator! WE have to place lables upon everything. You are white, I'm black, he is this or that. NO! We are spiritual beings having a human experience and until we seek oneness at the highest level of consciouness we'll continue to divide ourselves and fight wars in the name of Creation.

ZigZag · 11-10-2009, 08:15 AM

I tried something different. I put out my hands and said: "If Maxmillion is correct then show me a sign." Well, nothing happened. So we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's wrong. (Heh.)

My first reaction to this exercise was thinking how silly it is considering that I already believe in God or "An Intelligent Creator." However, I thought I'd try it and something did happen.

A quiet, loving, understated voice said "I'm right here with you now." Then I asked "Are you really God" and the voice responded "I love you" and then "You already know." I asked again and the voice responded. "I am real, I've been here all the time."

Proof that God exist or just ZigZag going off the deep end? Well heck if I know but it definitely was an enlightening exercise. So thank you the posting it. I honestly didn't think anything would happen.

ZigZag · 11-10-2009, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nimpa

It`s only you who is your own god of your existense!

Yeah I've heard similar things which I believe originated in Eastern philosophy. I've been asked before whether I was God (and an angel) and it's something that I don't believe.

Am I "The Creator Of My Life Experience?" Sure. But I'm definitely not on a par with God.

After my first post I remembered where I'd heard that voice before. When I was having trouble with my back I remember something healing me and saying "This is how much I love you." Perhaps it's not God. Maybe it's Jesus.

I suppose it could be something that I'm doing however I don't believe that to be the case.

trumpetblast · 11-10-2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZigZag

Yeah I've heard similar things which I believe originated in Eastern philosophy. I've been asked before whether I was God (and an angel) and it's something that I don't believe.

Eastern religions (Hindu and Buddhism, for instance) generally still believe in the existence of a transcendent creator. They view the human relationship much different than we in the West do because they usually assert that we humans are a part of God, that he is not completely external to us. Though Western religions pay some lip service to this concept, generally they reject it vehemently as pagan and blasphemous, mostly because they don't understand it.

Saying "you are the God of your own existence", to me, puts the emphasis on yourself to the extent that it denies the importance and perhaps even the existence of a transcendent God. If used in that sense, it is far from representative of Eastern religion. Rather, it is more reflective of atheism and/or Anton LaVey's modern branch of satanism.

Not trying to accuse Nimpa of anything here. Just wanted to lend more precision to the beliefs of Eastern religions.

ZigZag · 11-10-2009, 11:36 AM

Well, you just have.

Thanks for the clarification.

mr2020 · 11-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Maximillion_Z,

My wife, a member of this forum photograph's God at iPhotographGod.com

We "pray visually". Seeing what is, reminds us of what we are.

Thank you for the great invitation to enjoy "being".

Mr Twenty Twenty

Daniel-H · 11-11-2009, 12:55 AM

I am glad to see this here. Thank you for your thoughts and sharing. Faith goes along way. If your heart and mind is in the right place you will truly be blessed! Give thanks each and every day and ask for wisdom.

eBizSuccessCoach · 11-11-2009, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trumpetblast

Eastern religions (Hindu and Buddhism, for instance) generally still believe in the existence of a transcendent creator. They view the human relationship much different than we in the West do because they usually assert that we humans are a part of God, that he is not completely external to us. Though Western religions pay some lip service to this concept, generally they reject it vehemently as pagan and blasphemous, mostly because they don't understand it.

This is so true and this is why Jesus was crucified. In the Book of John Jesus says this, and he was referring to a message from the Old Testement, "Is it not written in your law that I said you are gods." And Jesus did not consider it blasphemous to see yourself equal to God. This was the basis of his teachings. Again, his teachings was not received by many and he had to be killed.

By the way Christianity is an eastern religion. I ask where did it originate from? Hmmm...

Mr. Subtle · 11-13-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eBizSuccessCoach

It's not enough to say that God is "the creator of all things." When saying that it implies that something had to create God. Think about that for a moment.

God can never be created nor destroyed. This presence that we call God "is" everything in existance. God surrounds us, flows through us... "is" us!

So God is not the creator of all things. God "IS" creation!

Not sure if you’re aware of it or not, but the only thing you’re stating is the scientific law of the conservation of mass-energy. It’s great that you’ve jumped over the First Cause argument because we know where that would have lead to. Science, with your current argument, would just evoke Occam's razor and say that your God (YHWH) or any of the other 2499 gods in recorded history add nothing to the law and are not needed.

Carl Sagan once said: “We are made of star stuff.” In other words, we are made of atoms that have been around since the Big Bang and our atoms will continue to live eternally after our passing. (Please don’t confuse this with the myth of an eternal conscious life.)

moneycoach123 · 11-13-2009, 03:58 PM

I like where you are going with this...we don't praise the creator enuf!

eBizSuccessCoach · 11-17-2009, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Subtle

Not sure if you’re aware of it or not, but the only thing you’re stating is the scientific law of the conservation of mass-energy. It’s great that you’ve jumped over the First Cause argument because we know where that would have lead to. Science, with your current argument, would just evoke Occam's razor and say that your God (YHWH) or any of the other 2499 gods in recorded history add nothing to the law and are not needed.

Carl Sagan once said: “We are made of star stuff.” In other words, we are made of atoms that have been around since the Big Bang and our atoms will continue to live eternally after our passing. (Please don’t confuse this with the myth of an eternal conscious life.)

Yes I'm fully aware of my statements and again, you or a quantum physicist (which I too am familiar with the many different theories of quantum physics) may call this Divine presence "Mass Energy" and a theologian may call it "God". Personally, I don't care what you call this Divine Wisdom just know that it is real and in constant operation and in constant seek of peace.

Every holy book that I have read has made the statements that God says that "he" is everything in existence. Well if God is everything in existence according to the holy texts and a scientist says that energy is everything in existence and we are made up of atoms (which we are) then my friend ... again... it all comes down to labels.

You see, I believe that I can never die because of my physical body being made up of "atoms" and the spirit that drives the body is pure consciousness and is the spirit of God, which is everything in existence along with the physical "stuff" that the world of form is made up of. So if God says that it is everything then I must ask the question, "Who am I?"

Am I and are we God manifested in physical form?

I AM THAT I AM

You may believe how you wish and judgment of you will not come from me. Again, our sole purpose is to seek oneness which leads to peace and if I cast judgment upon you then I’m not living my purpose. You see life how you see it and that is cool with me. You are right by your statements because it resonates with your own common sense. And I am right with mine because it resonates with my own common sense and we are on separate paths towards the right truth but we are still one in the same.

Blessings!

Mike Anthony · 11-17-2009, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Subtle

Science, with your current argument, would just evoke Occam's razor and say that your God (YHWH) or any of the other 2499 gods in recorded history add nothing to the law and are not needed.

No. Science doesn't say anything about God or make any arguments against God and since it doesn't go beyond the present universe it can't say what is needed or isn't. Cosmology goes back as far as the singularity and then stops. Imagination now takes over to talk about "many worlds" and Multiiverses. Occam's razor is a philosphical premise that does not necessarily lead to the right result. Its more for guidance not for etablishing facts

BUt before we go too far down this road I think there is a good reason why religious issues and politics are two subjects to avoid getting too deeply into on Warriors.

Anything that centers you and motivates you will be good for IM but beyond IM thats another whole ball game.

Paul McQuillan · 11-17-2009, 09:11 AM

I find the this the OP initial post to be a bit silly. That will not happen
unless we make it happen. (imagine it)

I just did it, nothing happened.

This is not about being religious or non religious, it's just silly.

If we believe in God we communicate in our own way. I have
yet to see anyone get a direct response (if so Christianity
would not be in question)

I truly believe that people need to put more faith in themselves
(I am not saying have no faith in a God, just include yourself).

Being the subject matter of this is on a hair trigger, this thread
will explode and get locked.

Take heed on what you say. The internet does not forget and it could
come back to bite you later.

Mike Anthony · 11-17-2009, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul McQuillan

.

If we believe in God we communicate in our own way. I have
yet to see anyone get a direct response (if so Christianity
would not be in question)

OP doesn't mention a single thing about Christianity. Thats just his own experience of what he did. I agree with you about debating things like this here. I probably have an entirely different idea about Christianity being in question that would upset those who find it is.

and with that I'll bow out

Will Edwards · 11-18-2009, 01:01 PM

Here are my thoughts on the subject ...

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Mr. Goof Off · 11-18-2009, 01:05 PM

Let god, universe, or, whatever you want to call it, do what it do. Your job is to deal with what you can control. The other stuff is just subliminal.

Michael Thai · 11-18-2009, 08:27 PM

I did not knwo we can discuss such thing in the Warrior Forum but i do believe God exists

09-16-2009, 07:44 PM	#1
Maximillion_Z Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 29 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	The existence of The Creator Of All Things Hi, Something to think about. There is a method that will help all who are in any kind of conundrum as to whether God exists or not. I use the word "God" only as a sufficient word. The meaning I try to show is that of "creator of all things". Try this whenever you can today - it's very easy. Do whatever makes you comfortable to offer prayer or try to communicate. As an alternative, simply sit or stand and hold your hands palms upwards. and ask the question along the following lines: "please give me a sign that you exist" I absolutely guarantee that it will be answered. But please bare one thing in mind. The way that your question is answered is not always the way you think or expect. Please keep an open mind... Thank-you for reading.

09-22-2009, 03:29 AM	#2
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Marklouis Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London, UK Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: The existence of The Creator Of All Things God persists everywhere around us .. In the nature In the heart of kindness In a baby's smile In a person who is altruist... God bless everyone...
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11-09-2009, 07:31 AM	#6
zim HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 107 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The existence of The Creator Of All Things God definitely exists and one does not need to ask him for a sign as a proof of his existence. Instead, signs of God's existence are all around us - but we need a true eye to see these signs. I am an avid watcher of National Geographich where I have seen some amazingly complex ways in which animals hunt. I for one do not believe in the theory that animals have learnt all this through evolution. Again if we look at the sun, moon and the earth and their complex relationship, I don't think that all this came about as a result of an accident.

11-09-2009, 07:45 AM	#7
MardelInno Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The existence of The Creator Of All Things hmm, nothing happened guess that means there is no creator after all

11-09-2009, 07:55 AM	#8
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eBizSuccessCoach Judah Swagerty Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 74 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking	Re: The existence of The Creator Of All Things It's not enough to say that God is "the creator of all things." When saying that it implies that something had to create God. Think about that for a moment. God can never be created nor destroyed. This presence that we call God "is" everything in existance. God surrounds us, flows through us... "is" us! So God is not the creator of all things. God "IS" creation!
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11-10-2009, 08:15 AM	#12
ZigZag Spiritual Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 544 Blog Entries: 7 Thanks: 95 Thanked 68 Times in 45 Posts	Re: The existence of The Creator Of All Things I tried something different. I put out my hands and said: "If Maxmillion is correct then show me a sign." Well, nothing happened. So we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's wrong. (Heh.) My first reaction to this exercise was thinking how silly it is considering that I already believe in God or "An Intelligent Creator." However, I thought I'd try it and something did happen. A quiet, loving, understated voice said "I'm right here with you now." Then I asked "Are you really God" and the voice responded "I love you" and then "You already know." I asked again and the voice responded. "I am real, I've been here all the time." Proof that God exist or just ZigZag going off the deep end? Well heck if I know but it definitely was an enlightening exercise. So thank you the posting it. I honestly didn't think anything would happen.
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11-10-2009, 11:36 AM	#15
ZigZag Spiritual Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 544 Blog Entries: 7 Thanks: 95 Thanked 68 Times in 45 Posts	Re: The existence of The Creator Of All Things Well, you just have. Thanks for the clarification.
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11-11-2009, 12:55 AM	#17
Daniel-H Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The existence of The Creator Of All Things I am glad to see this here. Thank you for your thoughts and sharing. Faith goes along way. If your heart and mind is in the right place you will truly be blessed! Give thanks each and every day and ask for wisdom.

11-13-2009, 03:58 PM	#20
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Paul McQuillan Sales Page Writer War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Minnesota USA Posts: 806 Thanks: 98 Thanked 208 Times in 134 Posts Social Networking	Re: The existence of The Creator Of All Things I find the this the OP initial post to be a bit silly. That will not happen unless we make it happen. (imagine it) I just did it, nothing happened. This is not about being religious or non religious, it's just silly. If we believe in God we communicate in our own way. I have yet to see anyone get a direct response (if so Christianity would not be in question) I truly believe that people need to put more faith in themselves (I am not saying have no faith in a God, just include yourself). Being the subject matter of this is on a hair trigger, this thread will explode and get locked. Take heed on what you say. The internet does not forget and it could come back to bite you later.
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Michael Thai Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The existence of The Creator Of All Things I did not knwo we can discuss such thing in the Warrior Forum but i do believe God exists