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Old 09-22-2009, 11:15 AM   #1
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I was just wondering that many people start out with goals that make them feel good but become discouraged when they are no where close when many days pass by.

E.g.

Make $1,000,000 in 1 year.
Get 100,000 visitors to their website in 1 month.
Lose 10 pounds in 1 week.

Do you think it is okay or practical to set goals like this for somebody that is starting from nothing? Or do you think it is more practical to set smaller goals? Have you ever had a discouraging experience from setting a goal to big?

Please share your thoughts on this.

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I think it's best to create goals based on your performance rather than on the result you hope for. If your goals is to make $1,000,000 in a year, you could fail even though you worked hard and smart if events conspire against you.

There may be some advantages to creating result-based goals, but you do open yourself up to failure even though you performed well. With performance-based goals, your ability to meet goals is based on you, not outside factors.

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Personally i set multiple goals in a step up ladder type of organization and then split into short-term and long-term.

For example here are/were some of my goals!

$100 a week
$100 a day
A $1000 day
$10,000 a month
$1,000 a day
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Some of these i have achieved and others i have not... but they progress further each time.

Then i feel as though i am achieving my goals and working towards my next goals too and have them set as milestones.

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When setting goals you look at what you want to achieve and the time frame you want to achieve it in. Then you work your way backwards and figure out what you need to do each year, month, week and day to achieve your goal.

Someone once said: There's no such thing as an unrealistic goal, just unrealistic expectations.

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Big goals are necessary but also good to keep them just big enough so you don't think they're achievable but still maybe you could.

SMART goal setting:

Specific
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They should be "REALISTIC" but sometimes you have to stretch your brain to find out what real really is. For most people going from zero to 5k a month passive income is impossible but it is actually very realistic. So it's important to be realistic from an optimistic person's standpoint.
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When setting goals you look at what you want to achieve and the time frame you want to achieve it in. Then you work your way backwards and figure out what you need to do each year, month, week and day to achieve your goal.

Someone once said: There's no such thing as an unrealistic goal, just unrealistic expectations.
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When setting goals you look at what you want to achieve and the time frame you want to achieve it in. Then you work your way backwards and figure out what you need to do each year, month, week and day to achieve your goal.

Someone once said: There's no such thing as an unrealistic goal, just unrealistic expectations.

I like this concept, it reminds me of "THE DASH" concept where you think about what you would like to have accomplished at the end of your life, and the most important part is what happens between when you were born, and when you pass on.

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Plan with your end goal. Build your blueprint from to end to the start, then start taking small steps. You'll get there if you enjoy what you are doing.

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Setting unattainable goals can demoralize you - it's the different between a goal and a daydream.

I use the "steps" method, too. Even reaching a small goal is motivating.

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Aim a mountain..Atleast you will achieve a tree...
This is my concept..

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Yes, I agree with that. There was a time, my goal for adsense i s $1 a day, then $10 a day, then now my goal is $100 a day. make it SMART. Specific, Measurable,Attainable,Realistic and Time Bounded. Good luck!

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Default Re: Is it practical for somebody to have too big of a goals?

Make $1,000,000 in a year from nothing is a great thought to have, but it's sure as hell not going to fall in your lap.

How exactly do you plan to achieve this? Start small and work your way. First, pay off all your debt (like me). Then secure your savings. Keep building. Build build build, a little each day. If you need inspiration or ideas, join the War Room if you haven't already. Etc. etc.

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There's no such thing as goals that are too big or too small.
It all depends how big or small they seem to you and whether
or not you believe you can achieve them.

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Igor talked about belief and belief is the most important aspect, in my opinion.

When you visualize your goal and you are thinking, "sheesh, I don't see how that can be possible", that is what your conscious mind will be working on.

When you visualize your goal and you are thinking, "that feels great, doable and a fun game to play", that is what your brain will go to work on.

All of life is a game and we are here to have fun!

So, have fun with all of this!

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It would depend on the what type of person you are. There are those who get discouraged easily so setting big goals is not appropriate at all for failing to achieve it will just make them disappointed.

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Thanks for everybody's responses so far.

Some people have said to set goals that are realistic.

Others believe that there are no goals that are too big.

Where is the fine line between what goals are realistic versus goals that are too big.

As for goals that are too big, can people who are advocates of the Law of Attraction use this method to solve goals that are too big, for example making $100,000 in a month?

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Stephen Covey in "7 Habits of Highly Effective People" has a chapter entitled 'Begin With the End in Mind' - Covey then goes on to talk about his principle that all things are created twice - first in your mind and then in reality. Although I don't recall that he specifically goes on to talk about setting goals as such, his principle is clearly related to this subject and it could be instructive to read it.

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Where is the fine line between what goals are realistic versus goals that are too big. As for goals that are too big, can people who are advocates of the Law of Attraction use this method to solve goals that are too big, for example making $100,000 in a month?
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All of the responses you've had contain good advice, and all the elements that you need. They are ALL true. Glengarry Leads reminder of the SMART acronym conatins almost all you need, but in 'Goal Getting' I have made it SMARTER - the E standing for Emotional and the final R for Recorded.

You must have some passional and emotional attachment to what you desire. You must have ownership of it, be doing it for you and not for anyone else. And by writing it down, and perhaps telling one or more trusted people, you make a 'published' commitment that acts like a magnet.

If you follow SMARTER, it answers your other questions. The A and R ensure that the goal is not too big!

I'm uncertain what you know about or think of The Law Of Attraction, but it isn't a Magic Wand! It does work, but perhaps not in the way you are thinking. It's not merely wishing and it happens .... just like goals do not happen without action. 'Attraction' is more about mindset, possibilities, being open to and taking opportunities that surround us and you'll begin to see.

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There is nothing wrong with setting lofty goals, as long as you keep a sober head and are realistic about the goal and your particular circumstances as they relate to the goal.

For example:

If I'm an ambitious graduate student fresh out of college with no investment capital, no work experience and no resources, and I set a goal to make $1,000,000 in 1 year, what's wrong with that?

Nothing really, except that realistically I'm not going to accomplish that in the next 52 weeks.

But, if I altered that goal to say: Make $1,000,000 in 1 year, 10 years from today. That's different. It's probably more doable and I've got 9 years to prepare for it.

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There is nothing wrong with setting lofty goals, as long as you keep a sober head and are realistic about the goal and your particular circumstances as they relate to the goal.

For example:

If I'm an ambitious graduate student fresh out of college with no investment capital, no work experience and no resources, and I set a goal to make $1,000,000 in 1 year, what's wrong with that?

Nothing really, except that realistically I'm not going to accomplish that in the next 52 weeks.

But, if I altered that goal to say: Make $1,000,000 in 1 year, 10 years from today. That's different. It's probably more doable and I've got 9 years to prepare for it.

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I agree with Hermas. It's not a matter of how big the your goal is and whether it's realistic or not. Every big goal is achievable. It's just a matter of whether the timeline you've set to achieve the goal is realistic. If you're fresh out of college and you aim to earn $1 Million a year in 3 years time, then that goal is probably unrealistic. But if you aim to make $1 Million a year in 10 years time, then that may be more likely to happen if you have a plan and you persevere through all challenges to achieve your goal.

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It is important to set short term and long term goals.

For example here are my goals

5 leads by this date
10 leads by this date
100 leads by this date
10 leads a day by this date
100 leads a day by this date

Then I work on ways to accomplish these goals by the date. I also agree your goals should be realistic. If you never made a dime on the internet and you do not have any capital, you shouldn't have goals stating you want to make 6 figures in 30 days.

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Igor hit the nail on the head. A goal is only too big if you don't believe you can ever achieve it.

As long as you believe you can accomplish something, want it badly enough and never give up, success is inevitable.

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My final goal is to retire to Tahiti and run a resort (that I own), at the moment I am focusing on the $100/day goal!

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I have always believed that it is all in your mindset, If you can believe it, you can achieve it!

I also plan like I am taking a trip aka from the east coast to the west coast. There are many different routes or states I could take to get there. So what I have to do is study what lies between point a & point b and choose the options that suit me best and always allow room for the unexpected delays that pop up along the way! (trust me on this one, I've just encountered 5 unexpecteds in the last week!)

My goals have not changed, I will achieve what I perceive to believe! Don't let unexpected glitches disenhearten you, have a nice trip and enjoy the beautiful scenery while you're there and forget the ugliness you may encounter along the way!
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Hi Tristan,
Most people have never set a goal in their life; so I believe starting out small and getting some achievable success is better. Goal-muscles are like any other muscle, if you use it with too heavy a load too quickly, you’ll damage it, and will be less likely to want to keep using it.

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Great discussion here. As for me, I agree with the above posts that says "just look on what you can do". It is really not a big deal for me to have great goals but also place in your mindset that no matter what happens, you still keep looking on the positive side. Don't let failures linger your mind that much. It is your life anyway so you better live the most of it.

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I think it will be more effective if we had "realistic big dreams". Things we believe we can achieve, even though we don't know yet how to get there.

It has to be believable for us.

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Was it practical/realistic for a couple of bicycle manufacturers like the Wright Brothers to set a goal to build a machine that would carry humans into the air? Remember, when they set that goal, no one else in the world achieve such a goal before?

Was it practical/realistic for someone to set the goal of building a spaceship that would carry us to the moon and back back in the 1960's

Was it practical/realistic for someone to set a goal to be worth at a minimum of 400 million dollars with in 5 years, when in fact they were in bankruptcy and a million dollars in debt at the time they set the goal? (this was Bill Bartman)

My point is to prove that setting high goals for yourself while your current circumstances would prove otherwise is quite achievable. The above examples were achieved.

Set the goals based on what you want and what you believe is possible and through away. don't pay attention to the nay sayers.
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I just wanted to say thanks for everybody's input here so far. You guys all have great ways of thinking in terms of goal-setting and so far we have had a positive discussion about this subject.

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I like this concept, it reminds me of "THE DASH" concept where you think about what you would like to have accomplished at the end of your life, and the most important part is what happens between when you were born, and when you pass on.
I have never heard of the "The Dash" concept. But I like it!

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Great topic and one that I always promote to my list when they 1st start learning with us.
I always promote self help and strong attitude builders like Jim Rohn or an Anthony Robbins video on modelling.
Some folks repsond to me by saying "yea yea Nicholas but when do I make money?"
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This may be the most important step since if you are working the IM process it can challenge you big time.
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I think it will be more effective if we had "realistic big dreams". Things we believe we can achieve, even though we don't know yet how to get there.

It has to be believable for us.
I agree. You really said it right. "Realistic big dreams" are what we should have..

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I agree to have an realizable goals instead of assuming too big goals.In order to not be frustrated from our unability to reach them.

I found some tips for goal setting as follow:-

1- What don't you want in your life? At work? At home? If you take the opposite of these, then you have got a list of goals.

2-Instead of saying goals, say results. What results do you want from your life? Does changing that one word make a difference? Can you think of another word more suited to you? For some of us it makes a big difference! Make a list!

3-Suppose you had all your concerns met. Imagine this now. What would you do in your life different from what you do now? Write these down as your list of goals, or results.

4-Think of areas of your life you might consider. For example, health, wealth, love, relationships, work, education, spiritual, etc. Use all the above techniques (1 to 3) in these areas and write down your list.

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Tristan as long as your Desire matches your Goals there is no such thing as too big.
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