RANT: suicide

threatlevelorange · 10-24-2009, 03:19 AM

Does anyone here ever think about suicide?

acrasial · 10-24-2009, 03:31 AM

I now have a belief that everyone would love for their LIFE To end at some point and time, but it's not really their PHYSICAL self that they want to end (such as in real death), but rather what is going on around them.

I think then, I am sure that many people would love to end some of the things going on around them, but some resort to "suicide", as a way to stop everything.

People who "think" about that, are simply "thinking" about everything around them. maybe money is tight, or no one likes them, or they can't seem to get ahead. Perhaps they just can't seem to do anything right, and their relationships never work out.

Maybe someone dumped them, and they think life isn't worth living after, because they got so used to leaning onto others for support. All of these reasons don't actually have to do with someone really wanting to kill themselves, but rather just kill whatever is making them really unhappy and stressed out.

threatlevelorange · 10-24-2009, 03:35 AM

Do you think that some people want to stop everything? To me, it seems like some people do.

Shanoa35 · 10-24-2009, 04:28 AM

I think 80% people has got this thought even only one minute
but 79.9% choose to live just like me

whitney01 · 10-24-2009, 04:34 AM

Suicide is not good.. why you should end your life? life in this world is difficult but despite of those hard things there are also happy moments where it can give us hope for new tomorrows..

acrasial · 10-24-2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

Do you think that some people want to stop everything? To me, it seems like some people do.

So are YOU thinking about it?

There comes a time, when those things that the PEOPLE want to stop, can mainly be their own fault anyways.

on a completely different note: Did you know that the suicide rate for police officers and other related public service people are high, when in comparison to the general population?

threatlevelorange · 10-24-2009, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by acrasial

So are YOU thinking about it?

There comes a time, when those things that the PEOPLE want to stop, can mainly be their own fault anyways.

Did you know that the suicide rate for police officers and other related public service people are high, when in comparison to the general population?

I'll spare you the details. Something prompted me to post, not sure if I can explain it.

Yea police have a horrible job. I would never be a police officer.

acrasial · 10-24-2009, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

I'll spare you the details. Something prompted me to post, not sure if I can explain it.

Yea police have a horrible job. I would never be a police officer.

So someone thought about that and just want to understand how it works? or that they are not alone?

KatyaSenina · 10-24-2009, 05:00 AM

Well I had times, but like acrasial said... it's more about wanting to ESCAPE the bad situation you're in and not life itself. People who kill themselves see no other way out and that's why they choose to end their life which I think is never the solution.

It took me years to realize that I'm in control of my life and that I should take responsibility for every situation I encounter, because I created it. We create our lives. If you're experiencing some rough times at the moment...then there are really only two choices that you have right now...You can choose to continue to suffer and complain OR you can choose to do something about it.

Your life can change in an instant and it's up to you.

People create their own misery. And people create their own luck and happiness. I believe there is always a way out in any situation nomatter how bad.

threatlevelorange · 10-24-2009, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by acrasial

So someone thought about that and just want to understand how it works? or that they are not alone?

Not alone, yes.

What if you've never accomplished anything. If you've always fell short and your youth is almost over? Should a person keep trying even though they "missed the boat" so to speak?

acrasial · 10-24-2009, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

Not alone, yes.

What if you've never accomplished anything. If you've always fell short and your youth is almost over? Should a person keep trying even though they "missed the boat" so to speak?

I would suggest a dating book, etc... then for this person. What exactly does this person want? A date? To be recognized? To be rich?

"never accomplishing" something, is this according to this person, or is it their idea after others around them have said they are a loser, are lazy etc...? (you get my drift?)...?

I would also then suggest someone like Tony Robbins, who has the personal power program, and in there he discusses all of the above, regardless of the time, or how many mistakes the person has made.

l23bc · 10-24-2009, 05:07 AM

keep trying until your last breath i say

Kurt · 10-24-2009, 05:21 AM

I just heard a report about those that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and survived...Each and every one of them had the very same thought the instant they jumped: "I wish I didn't do this".

Think about it.

Profit-smart · 10-24-2009, 05:22 AM

Personally, I find suicide to be a completely selfish action.

It inflicts pain on your family, friends, and other associates.

On top of that, its rather pointless. If your so unhappy you feel that suicide is your only escape; Pack a backpack and go somewhere new.

KatyaSenina · 10-24-2009, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

Not alone, yes.

What if you've never accomplished anything. If you've always fell short and your youth is almost over? Should a person keep trying even though they "missed the boat" so to speak?

I know this is not addressed to me, but I want to answer it. I believe that when you think of yourself in terms of 'not being good enough' then you're actually giving yourself a very hard time. And that is exactly the main core of all your problems in life. I advice you to start changing your beliefs and try to maintain a positive frame of mind.

If you've always felt short, then the main cause for your failure is your negative mindset.

We become what we believe!

There is no such thing as being successful and at the same time thinking of yourself in terms of 'not being good enough'.

Also you're never too old to change your life! Change your beliefs about yourself and your life will change. I recommend you check out Stevepavlina.com for free advice on how to change your life and your negative beliefs about yourself.

Karen Connell · 10-24-2009, 07:33 AM

Here in Ireland, sucide is most prevelant in young men. No-one knows why people contemplate suicide but, in my opinion, if they had got help or even just talked to someone then maybe they wouldn't have felt so desperate.

It is the people left behind who are left wondering if they could have done something different, could have helped them etc.

I did say to my sister that it wouldn't be too big a deal if I dropped dead tomorrow then I could have another shot at doing all the things that I'm too old to do now.

I mean, at my age, I'll never be a pop star or a famous filmstar and I'll never be the first to run a 4 minute mile nor will I ever be a supermodel - now will I? But I know that I have made a difference to a lot of people's lives.

Just think how it could change a lot of peoples lives if you were not here. Think how many peoples lives would be different if you had NEVER been born.

My five sons would not be here if I had not been born, my three grandchildren would not be here.

My parents lives would have been different if I had not been born and so on...

So to anyone contemplating such a drastic solution to their problems -TALK to someone!

Even the Samaritans can help by providing a sympathetic ear - no-one need ever be alone.

Karen

AidanKay · 10-24-2009, 07:57 AM

Most people contemplate suicide.

Whether it be work, financial, social or age related, amongst other things. Most people develope some level of depression.

There is plenty of help out there for pepole with that level of depression, and I do hope they utilize that.

mr2020 · 10-24-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

Does anyone here ever think about suicide?

Been there. If you have been recently thinking about it, get some help, and realize that it doesn't solve anything.

What stopped me was my Grandma. I just couldn't let her suffer. We aren't all that close, but close enough.

Take a walk. No better yet, RUN. get your LUNGS BURNING, and THEN make a list.

Make a list of what you are thankful for, including BURNING LUNGS from running.

Mr Twenty Twenty

Mark McClure · 10-24-2009, 08:12 AM

OP,
I'm deleting my original post and replacing with this:

"If someone you know is thinking about suicide then professional and caring help is quickly and privately available. Phone the national suicide prevention number in your country or region right away. They are there to listen and help."

cclou · 10-24-2009, 08:20 AM

Suicide isn't "selfish." It's a desperate act of a person struggling with a mental illness. Mental illness is just as real as physical illness. Unfortunately, there is still shame and stigma attached to it, which prevents some people from getting the help that they need.

I hope everyone who needs help, gets it.

Kenster · 10-24-2009, 09:28 AM

One thing I learned at Yaniks Underground seminar was from one of his speakers Bob Parsons of godaddy. He said soemthign like this...

think about how unlikely it was for you to be living today. Your mom and dad had to meet when they did and had to pro create at the exact nano second they did. Then you had to race against thousands of others and you had to win. Now take it back one more level...your mom's parents and fathers parents had to meet and procreate at the exact second they did and then each your mom and dad had to race against thousands of others and win

you get the idea. this logic can be taken back forever and the if you really sit down and think about it, its absolutely insane how lucky we are to be living and breathing today.

SOMETIMES ITS EASY TO FORGET HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO BE HERE TODAY

MichelledGrace · 10-24-2009, 09:56 AM

I've been always fascinated about the afterlife. I want to know what happens after I die, and at some point I would like to go right now.

But then again, I still have lots of years left and eventually I'm going to see what happen anyway. So, no suicide for me!

TMG Enterprises · 10-24-2009, 10:19 AM

If you or someone you care about is thinking of suicide, what you need to do is get some help from a professional now. Not the people on this forum who 9 out of 10 times are giving you very bad advice.

If this is you that you are talking about, it is not selfish but it is an act of despair. When someone is that desperate to escape, they don't have the ability to think of the aftermath. But you can change it - get to someone who can help.

This topic is far beyond the scope of this forum.

Tina

dominodivine · 10-24-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

Does anyone here ever think about suicide?

Hey , Hey I hope this is a prank if not you really need to get professional help and fast... there is no one here qualified and if they are they need not discuss it here.

Please go seek help quickly...

samthor · 10-24-2009, 10:43 AM

no.
when i was younger i went through a very self- destructive period. testing the boundaries and punishing myself for this or that. never suicidal, but close.
what i wanted and needed at the time was just someone to talk to.
never underestimate listening skills.... they save lives.

Lady_T · 10-24-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

If you or someone you care about is thinking of suicide, what you need to do is get some help from a professional now. Not the people on this forum who 9 out of 10 times are giving you very bad advice.

If this is you that you are talking about, it is not selfish but it is an act of despair. When someone is that desperate to escape, they don't have the ability to think of the aftermath. But you can change it - get to someone who can help.

This topic is far beyond the scope of this forum.

Tina

Tina is right. If you or a loved one is contemplating suicide, you have go for help outside of this forum fast. In fact here's the number for the National Suicide Prevention Hotline - 1-800-273 TALK if you or a family member needs it.

If you are like most folks, you see this forum as a place of refuge, a place to find like minded individuals going through what you are going through.

So understand that you are not alone. That "thought" of suicide is a "thought" that can be changed.

Here's a technique that helps me...I'm taking it from a book called "The Happiness Trap" and it's called EXPANSION.1. You take 10 full, long deep breaths and just follow the breath. This will allow you to get a handle on the irrational thoughts that are floating in and out of your mind.

2. Now you just allow the feelings to be - without judgment or beating yourself up. Just let them be.

3. Notice where you feel the most emotion the most and make room for the feeling. Do you feel it in your head or a knot in the pit of your stomach? Imagine creating space around that feeling - empty space - giving it enough room to just be without judgment.

You see the more room you make for the feeling the less of a stronghold it has over you.

If you feel like crying - don't hold back - just cry it out. Make room for the tears and don't be ashamed.
Find someone you trust -right now- to talk to. Here's that number for the National Suicide Prevention Hotline one more time - 1-800-273 TALK...

May God send you or your loved one a much needed solution quickly...Lady_T

kimiroger · 10-24-2009, 04:18 PM

Never! I don't know why people suicide. May be because they have too much pain ans suffering. But that is just one of the many challenges in life. By suiciding people not only hurt themselves and the people who love them but also hurt GOD, the person who created us.

AlexPK · 10-24-2009, 04:47 PM

There was a time I was in despair but surrounded myself with proper support structures and people and let go of those that did not help. continued to move forward and failed lots of times before even seeing glimpses of success and just keep moving forward no matter what. day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute, second by second. It is worth ploughing onwards and putting structures to accelerate your growth in place and have the right people around you.

M.Bruso · 10-24-2009, 05:53 PM

My good friend's 17-years-old brother few days ago commited suicide. Umbelievable... I was out of words when tried taking to my friend... And I didn't ask him to tell me more - I think some time should pass... I only heard that boy suicided because of bad luck with a girl or because he lost too much money gambling, but 17-years old? wtf..?

I my self never though about commiting suicide. A person must be strong to commit suicide, but also ignorant to surrounding people. I mean it's selfish. A person chooses the shortest and easiest way out of problems, but what about people who love the person?

I've been to 3 funerals of suicided people. Yeah, I partially knew them all and seeing parents, grandparents, brothers at sisters crying for 17-years-old boy is more then cruel. They don't see the way out of some problem, but that's not the worst thing. Usually they don't talk about that, don't want to share their problems...

tunukwa · 10-25-2009, 01:45 AM

Peace be with you my brother,

The thought of suicide is just that, a thought. Unlike other thoughts one might have, this thought is spiritually unclean. Our lack of true knowledge of who we are and our disconnection from Being is the root cause. When we identify ourselves as the mind, body, ego, senses or intellect, we cut our selves off from the Beyond.

Thoughts are everywhere in the universe and because the mind is magnetic it can pick up thoughts from any place. By going within oneself one is eventually able to know when a thought we may have is really our thought or if it been projected from outside ourself. The materialistic western mind is currently consumed with thoughts of violence, hatred, despair and the like.

The mind is a collection of thoughts, each though opposing the other. When we live in the past thinking the same thoughts over and over, we create grooves in the brain and when a situation arises that effects us emotionally the mind creates the same thoughts by going back over the grooves in the brain. This is sort of like what happens when you walk over a path repeatedly, a pathway will be created.

Live in the present, the past no longer exists therefore do not blame yourself or others, do not criticize yourself or others, do not judge yourself or others. There is only NOW - no past no future. The past is yesterdays NOW and when tomorrow comes it too will be NOW.

Reconnect with your true divine self. When the thoughts arise, call on the Witnessing Presence - and simply look at the thought. Eventually the thought will go away because the mind is a thinking machine and does not like to be caught thinking. It is like a thief in the night when you watch it thinking.

Look at the emotion in the thought with the Witnessing Presence and let the emotions go. Go someplace and learn to meditate. Do this NOW. The world is being bombarded today with dark thoughts, thus all the war and devastation everywhere. Realize that there are consequences for all our thoughts and actions. Make the right decision and know that dark thoughts are the furtherest from the right decision one can make.

Look inside yourself and be grateful for all that you have, two legs, two arms, health, eyesight etc. there are millions of people who do not have what you have and would love to. Forget about what you don't have. Dwelling on thoughts like that creates lack within ourselves. This is a false self - abundance is ours. Humility, gratitude and self acceptance is the beginning path back to Being our essential self.

Jesus gave the world direction regarding suffering, He knew for 3 years before His crucifixion that He was going to be tortured and murdered by His own people - yet He remained focused on God. He did not wallow in self pity - no one loves me, life is so hard - He remained stead fast in the truth. He did this to teach you and me, it matters not whether one is or is not Chrisitian, the message is the same for all.

My dear brother, may you realize your true divinity within yourself and it is precisely at a moment like this - one of great despair that one opens up to this truth. Only you can open yourself. This is the moment you have been waiting for, the moment you turn your life around and enter into your true Being.

I thank you for sharing with us and for the opportunity to speak with you as your sister. While I do not know the particulars of your situation, nor do I need to, I have been where you are now. Knowing and living in the truth has set me free from all suffering throughout eternity. The same opportunity awaits you.

KenThompson · 10-25-2009, 01:50 AM

Hey Justin...

First, to the person who mentioned this, no we are not counselors. But
we are a community of people who care enough to reply and offer what
we can. I agree that someone who is contemplating this, however
fleetingly, could be best served by speaking with someone who is trained
to deal with this.

So, Justin, you mentioned the following:

Quote:

What if you've never accomplished anything. If you've always
fell short and your youth is almost over? Should a person keep trying
even though they "missed the boat" so to speak?

If I may, I'd like to offer some things for you to think about...

Try to find some perspective. Apparently things have not transpired
in the way you would have liked. Things have not turned-out the way
you envisioned, or wanted.

But it's ok. I realize it does not necessarily feel ok, but it is. The thing
to try and keep in your mind, and believe, is that success can still
happen. There are so many things that come into play. But really, in
my mind, the most important is to keep trying no matter what happens.

I could tell you lots of stories about myself and other people I'm aware
of. But I realize all that may not matter to you. So I won't do that.

I'm 51 and have been through a helluva lot in my life. Ok? So at least
try to give me some credit for having passed "similar" ground.

One thing I came to understand and fully realize is this...

In the times when I felt so bad about things, so utterly frustrated that
I cannot describe, and depressed about things in my life... I just
tried digging a little bit deeper. The strength and "hope" really is within
us to uncover and unleash.

I really do know that sometimes it seems so hard, and maybe there is
no hope. But I will tell you a truth. It's a truth that applies to very
many things in life. Trust me, please, because it IS truth.

If you have the tiniest amount of belief and hope, then it will exist
and pull you along. If you "believe" that it does not exist, then it
will not.

That may seem harsh and cruel, maybe, I don't know. But it is the
stark truth.

You may be feeling that you missed the boat. The truth is there are
a thousand boats. You have not missed anything, unless you believe
you have and also believe there was only ONE boat.

I know a little about you, Justin. I do not know your age, but believe
me... youth is a relative thing, and you still retain youth.

If you still have my email address, you are always welcome to contact
me if you want.

Best regards...

Ian25 · 10-25-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

Does anyone here ever think about suicide?

Yeah I thought suicide can be bad for your health.

Matt D. · 10-25-2009, 03:26 PM

I believe everybody has had a though of making a suicide. But majority of people decide to live, like me. I didn't think about suicide until some things that hurt me happened. But at those moments I learned that it is not worth killing yourself because some people don't understand you or don't like you or some things didn't go as you would except. I think that somebody makes a suicide when he or she thinks that his or her life cannot change. And that's the biggest sin people make. I am going on with my life just because I know and believe my life can and will change. Because I have the power to change it and do what I want to do.
I know life can be a beautiful expirience and because I made a great picture of my life in the future and didn't give up. Most of us live in a very demanding societies which sometimes don't support things we would like to do and be.

What helped me a lot too, is the knowledge that I am 100% responsible for what I do and for how I feel about things. I don't control what happens to me, but I don control how I look at it.

Take care

mobiusman · 10-26-2009, 01:06 AM

I think you’re just asking about this subject and not actually contemplating anything. (At least I hope not.)

This post then is for anyone seriously thinking along these lines.

Question: What if It doesn’t end when you think it ends?

Consider this: Thoughts are things but they exist in the ethereal not the physical. Humans are a binary system, that is, we’re composed of two distinct natures:
· Physical nature
· Ethereal nature

We all know the physical nature has a way of repairing itself when its injured. It’s called the immune system and it begins its work the minute the damage happens or the minute it detects a pathogen that tries to invade. It maintains us in health.

The ethereal nature must have an immune system too but unfortunately the speed at which it works (in most people) is extremely slow. That’s why you hear of folks still in therapy years after the fact.

Often they never completely heal. Bruises are left behind.

So, now they turn to thoughts of self-destruction.
If they should they follow through with it they cut off any chance of the natural healing process to take place at all.
Because we're a binary the immune system in the ethereal is tied up with the physical and cannot function by itself. (it's hardly functioning as it is.)

If we can accept the idea that we are half-ethereal and we kill off the physical meat then don’t you think the other half goes on?

If it does (I can’t prove that it does but indications are that it does) then that means the state that it (the mind and its awareness) is in at the time of the physical death cannot ever be corrected because its immune system is disabled.

In other words, the pain and misery that one feels in the thinking mind at the time of death is what they will most likely take with them forever. The saddest truth I can ever imagine is that this would be the depiction of the classical hell.

It had to be said.

You don’t need more advice just more immunity.

More power and love to all.

…David

guitarpw · 10-26-2009, 01:09 AM

Nope never thought of suicide before

antiquenh · 10-26-2009, 01:58 AM

Suicide is a pretty serious concern. I think that you should always have to surround yourself with people who love you so that you have people to talk to. Spiritual guidance may also help. I always think that the obstacles in life exist to make you a stronger person.

Mari Raven · 10-26-2009, 02:50 AM

I can kill myself at any time.
But I can not revive even at a time.

skeedio · 10-26-2009, 03:00 AM

I think it's normal to consider suicide when things in life don't go the way you planned, but it's important to keep in mind that suicide attempts fail most of the time and people are left in a state worse than they were in before. I won't risk inflicting serious brain damage or getting paralyzed unless I were terminally ill and in a lot of pain. Reading about suicide attempts that went wrong is the best way to prevent suicidal thoughts.

Rachel Zaouche · 10-26-2009, 03:16 AM

Suicide is NOT selfish - it is an act of desperation. Like others I have known people who committed suicide. One little boy was only 11 and no I don't believe he was selfish.

Come on people - think about what other people have done to survive. Just read a couple of the survivors stories from the concentration camps, read the story of the plane crash where they became cannibals to SURVIVE. Go visit a cancer ward and see how many brave people allow themselves to be injected with horrific chemicals i.e. chemotherapy knowing they may suffer horrible side effects but it may just let them live a while longer. Seriously, having watched my fantastic mum battle cancer for 13 years I KNOW exactly how much pain and suffering people will endure to live for that extra month or so. People will do almost anything to live. But only if they feel they have something to live for and that, I believe, is the crucial difference. When you have lost all hope you are in danger of losing the will to live.

It is extremely hard to kill yourself particularly by hanging or stabbing. As Karen said we have a lot of suicides in Ireland - one particularly unpleasant recent one involved the guy stabbing himself to death. Now most people wouldn't be able to inflict that type of pain on themselves and it is definitely proof that their mental capacity is impaired.

If someone has lost the will to live and are going to kill themselves, they have become incapable of thinking properly. To be selfish you dont care what the impact is on others. If you are suicidal you have lost that ability to care. To say these people are selfish is a sign of lack of understanding of others and to be frank immaturity.

Even most religions have finally become enlightened enough to understand that these people need help not judgement. It is not our place to judge others - only God can do that and personally I don't believe in a God who would be so cruel as to turn his back on someone who is desperate.

Like others above have said, people who are having suicidal thoughts need professional help and advice. Get it for them or you may live to regret it. They may end up committing suicide anyway but at least you will have tried. Sometimes people are so broken inside that you just cannot help them.

We all need to help each other out through the dark phases in life. We can do this by reminding them that simply their presence on this planet has been a blessing to those around them. Watch Frank Capra's Christmas film Its a Wonderful Life to see this in action - the guy is going to commit suicide but God shows him how bleak his family and friends lives would have been had he not been around. Karen put it so nicely - she may not be a supermodel (I have never met her so will take her word on that) but she has brought three sons and grandchildren into this world. To me that is much more important than being a clothes horse.

I hope that the OP has got some help/hope from this thread and is now better able to provide assistance to whoever needs it.

ZigZag · 10-26-2009, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by threatlevelorange

Does anyone here ever think about suicide?

Nope.

I would never, as in absolutely never, think about committing suicide. Because I'm very lucky. Some people say they're blessed. Other people say they're high on life. One thing's for certain, I'm a lot more grateful and appreciative than I used to be.

I think that sometimes a person has to go through a certain amount of pain, struggle, and frustration before they understand the deeper meaning of life and what they're supposed to do.

Personally, I don't believe in death. My opinion is that a person's spirit or soul lives on forever. (I could be wrong but that's what I believe at this moment in time.) It's easy for me to say all of this because I'm "Jonathan 2.0." The younger, less evolved version of myself thought about suicide on more than one occasion.

For example, I remember being slouched in my armchair one night with my head in my hands crying. "I'm sorry. I've let everyone down" I said silently. I had given up hope. I was thinking about committing suicide. Then I felt warm tingling in my body that soothed me and a sweet, comforting voice that sounded like an angel said: "You've lived an amazing life."

What happened over the next few days was nothing short of a transformation. My depression lifted and I had a newfound optimism for life. That experience (and a few more) changed my belief about "God."

Something to keep in mind is that you're lucky as well. You've been given this wonderful gift of life. And all you have to do is change your thinking. Concentrate on what you have, not what you don’t have. Don't be fooled by the simplicity of this exercise - it's very effective.

Start now by making a list of everything that's important to you and everything that makes you feel good. Ask yourself the question: "What, for me, makes life worth living?" Now, to really put things into perspective, think about how lucky you are to have all of these things.

You're surrounded by countless opportunity. And you have many freedoms. For instance: You're alive. You're healthy. You live in a free country. You have a good family. You have nice food and clean water. You have all of your limbs. Plus a whole lot more that would fill a book the size of The Bible. More specifically, you can accomplish anything and everything that you set your mind to. No one and nothing can stop you from achieving your dreams... Including your age.

Colonel Sanders got into business when he was 75. Today Kentucky Friend Chicken is a house hold name. Neil Strauss was over 30 when he began to improve his dating and relationships skills. He went on to become the World’s greatest "Pickup Artist" and wrote the book about it.

And there’s no reason why you can’t have everything you want either. Make the most of everything. Because life is precious. Just ask Brendon Foster. As he would say:

"What makes me sad is when people give up."
youtube.com/watch?v=je66DZHqtPQ

That makes me sad too. So I hope that you're not having thoughts about suicide anymore. (Just in case you were.)

zim · 11-08-2009, 10:46 AM

NO, I have never contemplated suicide because I consider life to be sacrosant and a beautiful gift of God. In addition, I have always had something good to look forward to. Whenever I have had tough times, my belief in God and his promise that there are good times after bad, has kept me going.
If I may ask, what has made you ask this question. In case you are thinking about it, you must talk to a professional or a friend or family.

ryanman · 11-08-2009, 12:07 PM

Everyone goes through this once in a while and it only happens when the fear of living becomes far more than the fear of death.

cosmolito · 11-08-2009, 10:46 PM

Life is hard - I ain't gonna sugar coat that one! It's literally filled with suffering - and in general, even when we're feeling good, any little thing can knock us down.

And we all feel alone at some point and that can be a killer. Alone in our suffering - alone in our thoughts. I can totally understand why someone might want to just end it all. I have never been in danger of this because my remedy is going to sleep LOL, it's like a mini-suicide in a way

That is what suicide is anyway, you wake up but in a different life! But the karma remains with you whether in this life or the next, so it is worthwhile to deal with the issues here and now. (in my opinion)

And I want to say one more thing, everybody has somebody that is going to suffer by the loss of someone during a suicide. I know several people who have done so and they left a wreckage behind them. Family members and friends all bereft.

I truly believe suicide happens because of a lack of communication skills. We just want to know that we are loved and thought about in a positive light. And many of the other hardships can be coped with. (in my opinion) But if we could reach out to our friends and family and tell them we aren't doing so good and begin a dialogue to put us on the road to recovery, I think we could do away with the urge to commit suicide.

And trust me as a practicing Buddhist, you don't want to waste a human life! We are in a unique position to do a lot of good in this life. We all have enlightenment potential but some beings have it waaaay easier (such as human beings). And we as humans have many good things in place for us to do so much good not only for others but for ourselves as well!

Karma works like this, if we practice loving kindness for all others, it become a habit ingrained in our subconscious mind and this is cause for positive experiences to show up in our lives AS A SIDE EFFECT! You want to change your life? Start volunteering somewhere to help others - or get paid to do it, it's all the same if you approach it with a pure heart.

We do our best when we look for ways to better ourselves. We are at our best when our natural state of mind is to cause others to be comfortable, safe, and happy

Cheers!

cosmolito · 11-08-2009, 10:48 PM

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I'm "Jonathan 2.0."

I love this! Nice one

MissTerraK · 11-08-2009, 11:20 PM

Are you kidding me? Heck NO! I like myself too much for that, I was created in His image, He knew me before I was a physical substance, He weaved me together while still in my mother's womb! He has a purpose for my life here!

Throw that away because it seems the world is crumbling all around me? No way, let the steam off and go and play, have some fun, accomplish something even if it is in very small steps!

But keep on living, for this too shall pass!

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RickFinney · 11-08-2009, 11:30 PM

I can personally say that I have thought of suicide, but never my own. I have had a few friends attempt it (never succeeding thank goodness) and I find myself thinking what could be so bad that you want to end it.

10-24-2009, 03:19 AM	#1
threatlevelorange Offline Trailblazer War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 753 Thanks: 15 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Contact Info	RANT: suicide Does anyone here ever think about suicide?
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10-24-2009, 03:31 AM	#2
acrasial I Know You Want Me Banned War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 385 Thanks: 105 Thanked 79 Times in 44 Posts Contact Info	Re: RANT: suicide I now have a belief that everyone would love for their LIFE To end at some point and time, but it's not really their PHYSICAL self that they want to end (such as in real death), but rather what is going on around them. I think then, I am sure that many people would love to end some of the things going on around them, but some resort to "suicide", as a way to stop everything. People who "think" about that, are simply "thinking" about everything around them. maybe money is tight, or no one likes them, or they can't seem to get ahead. Perhaps they just can't seem to do anything right, and their relationships never work out. Maybe someone dumped them, and they think life isn't worth living after, because they got so used to leaning onto others for support. All of these reasons don't actually have to do with someone really wanting to kill themselves, but rather just kill whatever is making them really unhappy and stressed out.

10-24-2009, 03:35 AM	#3
threatlevelorange Offline Trailblazer War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 753 Thanks: 15 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Contact Info	Re: RANT: suicide Do you think that some people want to stop everything? To me, it seems like some people do.
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10-24-2009, 04:28 AM	#4
Shanoa35 Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide I think 80% people has got this thought even only one minute but 79.9% choose to live just like me
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10-24-2009, 04:34 AM	#5
whitney01 Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide Suicide is not good.. why you should end your life? life in this world is difficult but despite of those hard things there are also happy moments where it can give us hope for new tomorrows..
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10-24-2009, 05:00 AM	#9
KatyaSenina HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 196 Thanks: 59 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Contact Info	Re: RANT: suicide Well I had times, but like acrasial said... it's more about wanting to ESCAPE the bad situation you're in and not life itself. People who kill themselves see no other way out and that's why they choose to end their life which I think is never the solution. It took me years to realize that I'm in control of my life and that I should take responsibility for every situation I encounter, because I created it. We create our lives. If you're experiencing some rough times at the moment...then there are really only two choices that you have right now...You can choose to continue to suffer and complain OR you can choose to do something about it. Your life can change in an instant and it's up to you. People create their own misery. And people create their own luck and happiness. I believe there is always a way out in any situation nomatter how bad.
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10-24-2009, 05:07 AM	#12
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10-24-2009, 05:21 AM	#13
Kurt Boom Boom Boom Boom! War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 4,632 Thanks: 159 Thanked 460 Times in 237 Posts Social Networking	Re: RANT: suicide I just heard a report about those that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and survived...Each and every one of them had the very same thought the instant they jumped: "I wish I didn't do this". Think about it.
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10-24-2009, 05:22 AM	#14
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10-24-2009, 07:33 AM	#16
Karen Connell I CAN do this... War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 426 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 67 Thanked 49 Times in 39 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide Here in Ireland, sucide is most prevelant in young men. No-one knows why people contemplate suicide but, in my opinion, if they had got help or even just talked to someone then maybe they wouldn't have felt so desperate. It is the people left behind who are left wondering if they could have done something different, could have helped them etc. I did say to my sister that it wouldn't be too big a deal if I dropped dead tomorrow then I could have another shot at doing all the things that I'm too old to do now. I mean, at my age, I'll never be a pop star or a famous filmstar and I'll never be the first to run a 4 minute mile nor will I ever be a supermodel - now will I? But I know that I have made a difference to a lot of people's lives. Just think how it could change a lot of peoples lives if you were not here. Think how many peoples lives would be different if you had NEVER been born. My five sons would not be here if I had not been born, my three grandchildren would not be here. My parents lives would have been different if I had not been born and so on... So to anyone contemplating such a drastic solution to their problems -TALK to someone! Even the Samaritans can help by providing a sympathetic ear - no-one need ever be alone. Karen
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10-24-2009, 07:57 AM	#17
AidanKay is Thankful to Bob Silber War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 229 Thanks: 27 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: RANT: suicide Most people contemplate suicide. Whether it be work, financial, social or age related, amongst other things. Most people develope some level of depression. There is plenty of help out there for pepole with that level of depression, and I do hope they utilize that.
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10-24-2009, 08:12 AM	#19
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10-24-2009, 08:20 AM	#20
cclou Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 87 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 21 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide Suicide isn't "selfish." It's a desperate act of a person struggling with a mental illness. Mental illness is just as real as physical illness. Unfortunately, there is still shame and stigma attached to it, which prevents some people from getting the help that they need. I hope everyone who needs help, gets it.

10-24-2009, 09:28 AM	#21
Kenster Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United States...NJ Posts: 532 Thanks: 20 Thanked 62 Times in 54 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide One thing I learned at Yaniks Underground seminar was from one of his speakers Bob Parsons of godaddy. He said soemthign like this... think about how unlikely it was for you to be living today. Your mom and dad had to meet when they did and had to pro create at the exact nano second they did. Then you had to race against thousands of others and you had to win. Now take it back one more level...your mom's parents and fathers parents had to meet and procreate at the exact second they did and then each your mom and dad had to race against thousands of others and win you get the idea. this logic can be taken back forever and the if you really sit down and think about it, its absolutely insane how lucky we are to be living and breathing today. SOMETIMES ITS EASY TO FORGET HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO BE HERE TODAY

10-24-2009, 09:56 AM	#22
MichelledGrace Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 30 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide I've been always fascinated about the afterlife. I want to know what happens after I die, and at some point I would like to go right now. But then again, I still have lots of years left and eventually I'm going to see what happen anyway. So, no suicide for me!

10-24-2009, 10:19 AM	#23
TMG Enterprises Tina Golden War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 1,995 Thanks: 808 Thanked 452 Times in 333 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: RANT: suicide If you or someone you care about is thinking of suicide, what you need to do is get some help from a professional now. Not the people on this forum who 9 out of 10 times are giving you very bad advice. If this is you that you are talking about, it is not selfish but it is an act of despair. When someone is that desperate to escape, they don't have the ability to think of the aftermath. But you can change it - get to someone who can help. This topic is far beyond the scope of this forum. Tina
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10-24-2009, 10:43 AM	#25
samthor robust Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: pgh, pa Posts: 27 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: RANT: suicide no. when i was younger i went through a very self- destructive period. testing the boundaries and punishing myself for this or that. never suicidal, but close. what i wanted and needed at the time was just someone to talk to. never underestimate listening skills.... they save lives.
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10-24-2009, 04:18 PM	#27
kimiroger Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide Never! I don't know why people suicide. May be because they have too much pain ans suffering. But that is just one of the many challenges in life. By suiciding people not only hurt themselves and the people who love them but also hurt GOD, the person who created us.

10-24-2009, 04:47 PM	#28
AlexPK Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Former Adelaidean now working out of North Borneo Posts: 38 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: RANT: suicide There was a time I was in despair but surrounded myself with proper support structures and people and let go of those that did not help. continued to move forward and failed lots of times before even seeing glimpses of success and just keep moving forward no matter what. day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute, second by second. It is worth ploughing onwards and putting structures to accelerate your growth in place and have the right people around you.

10-24-2009, 05:53 PM	#29
M.Bruso Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Lithuania Posts: 25 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: RANT: suicide My good friend's 17-years-old brother few days ago commited suicide. Umbelievable... I was out of words when tried taking to my friend... And I didn't ask him to tell me more - I think some time should pass... I only heard that boy suicided because of bad luck with a girl or because he lost too much money gambling, but 17-years old? wtf..? I my self never though about commiting suicide. A person must be strong to commit suicide, but also ignorant to surrounding people. I mean it's selfish. A person chooses the shortest and easiest way out of problems, but what about people who love the person? I've been to 3 funerals of suicided people. Yeah, I partially knew them all and seeing parents, grandparents, brothers at sisters crying for 17-years-old boy is more then cruel. They don't see the way out of some problem, but that's not the worst thing. Usually they don't talk about that, don't want to share their problems...
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10-25-2009, 01:45 AM	#30
tunukwa Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide Peace be with you my brother, The thought of suicide is just that, a thought. Unlike other thoughts one might have, this thought is spiritually unclean. Our lack of true knowledge of who we are and our disconnection from Being is the root cause. When we identify ourselves as the mind, body, ego, senses or intellect, we cut our selves off from the Beyond. Thoughts are everywhere in the universe and because the mind is magnetic it can pick up thoughts from any place. By going within oneself one is eventually able to know when a thought we may have is really our thought or if it been projected from outside ourself. The materialistic western mind is currently consumed with thoughts of violence, hatred, despair and the like. The mind is a collection of thoughts, each though opposing the other. When we live in the past thinking the same thoughts over and over, we create grooves in the brain and when a situation arises that effects us emotionally the mind creates the same thoughts by going back over the grooves in the brain. This is sort of like what happens when you walk over a path repeatedly, a pathway will be created. Live in the present, the past no longer exists therefore do not blame yourself or others, do not criticize yourself or others, do not judge yourself or others. There is only NOW - no past no future. The past is yesterdays NOW and when tomorrow comes it too will be NOW. Reconnect with your true divine self. When the thoughts arise, call on the Witnessing Presence - and simply look at the thought. Eventually the thought will go away because the mind is a thinking machine and does not like to be caught thinking. It is like a thief in the night when you watch it thinking. Look at the emotion in the thought with the Witnessing Presence and let the emotions go. Go someplace and learn to meditate. Do this NOW. The world is being bombarded today with dark thoughts, thus all the war and devastation everywhere. Realize that there are consequences for all our thoughts and actions. Make the right decision and know that dark thoughts are the furtherest from the right decision one can make. Look inside yourself and be grateful for all that you have, two legs, two arms, health, eyesight etc. there are millions of people who do not have what you have and would love to. Forget about what you don't have. Dwelling on thoughts like that creates lack within ourselves. This is a false self - abundance is ours. Humility, gratitude and self acceptance is the beginning path back to Being our essential self. Jesus gave the world direction regarding suffering, He knew for 3 years before His crucifixion that He was going to be tortured and murdered by His own people - yet He remained focused on God. He did not wallow in self pity - no one loves me, life is so hard - He remained stead fast in the truth. He did this to teach you and me, it matters not whether one is or is not Chrisitian, the message is the same for all. My dear brother, may you realize your true divinity within yourself and it is precisely at a moment like this - one of great despair that one opens up to this truth. Only you can open yourself. This is the moment you have been waiting for, the moment you turn your life around and enter into your true Being. I thank you for sharing with us and for the opportunity to speak with you as your sister. While I do not know the particulars of your situation, nor do I need to, I have been where you are now. Knowing and living in the truth has set me free from all suffering throughout eternity. The same opportunity awaits you.

10-25-2009, 03:26 PM	#33
Matt D. Super Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 54 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide I believe everybody has had a though of making a suicide. But majority of people decide to live, like me. I didn't think about suicide until some things that hurt me happened. But at those moments I learned that it is not worth killing yourself because some people don't understand you or don't like you or some things didn't go as you would except. I think that somebody makes a suicide when he or she thinks that his or her life cannot change. And that's the biggest sin people make. I am going on with my life just because I know and believe my life can and will change. Because I have the power to change it and do what I want to do. I know life can be a beautiful expirience and because I made a great picture of my life in the future and didn't give up. Most of us live in a very demanding societies which sometimes don't support things we would like to do and be. What helped me a lot too, is the knowledge that I am 100% responsible for what I do and for how I feel about things. I don't control what happens to me, but I don control how I look at it. Take care
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10-26-2009, 01:06 AM	#34
mobiusman Mindset Immunity Mentor Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: British Columbia, Canada. Posts: 101 Thanks: 41 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking	Re: RANT: suicide I think you’re just asking about this subject and not actually contemplating anything. (At least I hope not.) This post then is for anyone seriously thinking along these lines. Question: What if It doesn’t end when you think it ends? Consider this: Thoughts are things but they exist in the ethereal not the physical. Humans are a binary system, that is, we’re composed of two distinct natures: · Physical nature · Ethereal nature We all know the physical nature has a way of repairing itself when its injured. It’s called the immune system and it begins its work the minute the damage happens or the minute it detects a pathogen that tries to invade. It maintains us in health. The ethereal nature must have an immune system too but unfortunately the speed at which it works (in most people) is extremely slow. That’s why you hear of folks still in therapy years after the fact. Often they never completely heal. Bruises are left behind. So, now they turn to thoughts of self-destruction. If they should they follow through with it they cut off any chance of the natural healing process to take place at all. Because we're a binary the immune system in the ethereal is tied up with the physical and cannot function by itself. (it's hardly functioning as it is.) If we can accept the idea that we are half-ethereal and we kill off the physical meat then don’t you think the other half goes on? If it does (I can’t prove that it does but indications are that it does) then that means the state that it (the mind and its awareness) is in at the time of the physical death cannot ever be corrected because its immune system is disabled. In other words, the pain and misery that one feels in the thinking mind at the time of death is what they will most likely take with them forever. The saddest truth I can ever imagine is that this would be the depiction of the classical hell. It had to be said. You don’t need more advice just more immunity. More power and love to all. …David
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10-26-2009, 01:09 AM	#35
guitarpw Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide Nope never thought of suicide before

10-26-2009, 01:58 AM	#36
antiquenh Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: RANT: suicide Suicide is a pretty serious concern. I think that you should always have to surround yourself with people who love you so that you have people to talk to. Spiritual guidance may also help. I always think that the obstacles in life exist to make you a stronger person.
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10-26-2009, 02:50 AM	#37
Mari Raven Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide I can kill myself at any time. But I can not revive even at a time.
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10-26-2009, 03:00 AM	#38
skeedio Warrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: RANT: suicide I think it's normal to consider suicide when things in life don't go the way you planned, but it's important to keep in mind that suicide attempts fail most of the time and people are left in a state worse than they were in before. I won't risk inflicting serious brain damage or getting paralyzed unless I were terminally ill and in a lot of pain. Reading about suicide attempts that went wrong is the best way to prevent suicidal thoughts.

10-26-2009, 03:16 AM	#39
Rachel Zaouche HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 305 Thanks: 31 Thanked 31 Times in 21 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide Suicide is NOT selfish - it is an act of desperation. Like others I have known people who committed suicide. One little boy was only 11 and no I don't believe he was selfish. Come on people - think about what other people have done to survive. Just read a couple of the survivors stories from the concentration camps, read the story of the plane crash where they became cannibals to SURVIVE. Go visit a cancer ward and see how many brave people allow themselves to be injected with horrific chemicals i.e. chemotherapy knowing they may suffer horrible side effects but it may just let them live a while longer. Seriously, having watched my fantastic mum battle cancer for 13 years I KNOW exactly how much pain and suffering people will endure to live for that extra month or so. People will do almost anything to live. But only if they feel they have something to live for and that, I believe, is the crucial difference. When you have lost all hope you are in danger of losing the will to live. It is extremely hard to kill yourself particularly by hanging or stabbing. As Karen said we have a lot of suicides in Ireland - one particularly unpleasant recent one involved the guy stabbing himself to death. Now most people wouldn't be able to inflict that type of pain on themselves and it is definitely proof that their mental capacity is impaired. If someone has lost the will to live and are going to kill themselves, they have become incapable of thinking properly. To be selfish you dont care what the impact is on others. If you are suicidal you have lost that ability to care. To say these people are selfish is a sign of lack of understanding of others and to be frank immaturity. Even most religions have finally become enlightened enough to understand that these people need help not judgement. It is not our place to judge others - only God can do that and personally I don't believe in a God who would be so cruel as to turn his back on someone who is desperate. Like others above have said, people who are having suicidal thoughts need professional help and advice. Get it for them or you may live to regret it. They may end up committing suicide anyway but at least you will have tried. Sometimes people are so broken inside that you just cannot help them. We all need to help each other out through the dark phases in life. We can do this by reminding them that simply their presence on this planet has been a blessing to those around them. Watch Frank Capra's Christmas film Its a Wonderful Life to see this in action - the guy is going to commit suicide but God shows him how bleak his family and friends lives would have been had he not been around. Karen put it so nicely - she may not be a supermodel (I have never met her so will take her word on that) but she has brought three sons and grandchildren into this world. To me that is much more important than being a clothes horse. I hope that the OP has got some help/hope from this thread and is now better able to provide assistance to whoever needs it.

11-08-2009, 10:46 AM	#41
zim HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide NO, I have never contemplated suicide because I consider life to be sacrosant and a beautiful gift of God. In addition, I have always had something good to look forward to. Whenever I have had tough times, my belief in God and his promise that there are good times after bad, has kept me going. If I may ask, what has made you ask this question. In case you are thinking about it, you must talk to a professional or a friend or family.

11-08-2009, 12:07 PM	#42
ryanman The Ultimate Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 830 Thanks: 19 Thanked 151 Times in 66 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide Everyone goes through this once in a while and it only happens when the fear of living becomes far more than the fear of death.
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11-08-2009, 10:46 PM	#43
cosmolito Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: RANT: suicide Life is hard - I ain't gonna sugar coat that one! It's literally filled with suffering - and in general, even when we're feeling good, any little thing can knock us down. And we all feel alone at some point and that can be a killer. Alone in our suffering - alone in our thoughts. I can totally understand why someone might want to just end it all. I have never been in danger of this because my remedy is going to sleep LOL, it's like a mini-suicide in a way That is what suicide is anyway, you wake up but in a different life! But the karma remains with you whether in this life or the next, so it is worthwhile to deal with the issues here and now. (in my opinion) And I want to say one more thing, everybody has somebody that is going to suffer by the loss of someone during a suicide. I know several people who have done so and they left a wreckage behind them. Family members and friends all bereft. I truly believe suicide happens because of a lack of communication skills. We just want to know that we are loved and thought about in a positive light. And many of the other hardships can be coped with. (in my opinion) But if we could reach out to our friends and family and tell them we aren't doing so good and begin a dialogue to put us on the road to recovery, I think we could do away with the urge to commit suicide. And trust me as a practicing Buddhist, you don't want to waste a human life! We are in a unique position to do a lot of good in this life. We all have enlightenment potential but some beings have it waaaay easier (such as human beings). And we as humans have many good things in place for us to do so much good not only for others but for ourselves as well! Karma works like this, if we practice loving kindness for all others, it become a habit ingrained in our subconscious mind and this is cause for positive experiences to show up in our lives AS A SIDE EFFECT! You want to change your life? Start volunteering somewhere to help others - or get paid to do it, it's all the same if you approach it with a pure heart. We do our best when we look for ways to better ourselves. We are at our best when our natural state of mind is to cause others to be comfortable, safe, and happy Cheers!
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11-08-2009, 11:20 PM	#45
MissTerraK HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 110 Thanks: 89 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: RANT: suicide Are you kidding me? Heck NO! I like myself too much for that, I was created in His image, He knew me before I was a physical substance, He weaved me together while still in my mother's womb! He has a purpose for my life here! Throw that away because it seems the world is crumbling all around me? No way, let the steam off and go and play, have some fun, accomplish something even if it is in very small steps! But keep on living, for this too shall pass! MissTerraK
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11-08-2009, 11:30 PM	#46
RickFinney Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: RANT: suicide I can personally say that I have thought of suicide, but never my own. I have had a few friends attempt it (never succeeding thank goodness) and I find myself thinking what could be so bad that you want to end it.
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