cgallagher93

Hey everyone,

Just thought I'd make a quick post about the law of attraction and provide a testimonial - so to speak - about how this stuff really works. In all honesty, I bet there's a ton of non-believers and haters on here so I'm possibly wasting my time.

If on the other hand, you're someone who's willing to give anything an honest try I recommend you get yourself a copy of The Secret. A few months ago I got my hands on the DVD version in which Joe Vitale and a bunch of other cool guys talk about their experience with the law of attraction. I've not read the book but welcome any comments as I absolutely hate reading and probably require a much-needed kick up the ass to get a copy and read it.

It's all about positive thought vibrations and how your mind materializes your thoughts whether you like it or not. In the documentary, they talk about how the universe operates around a famous line from the Disney film Aladdin...

Your wish is my command.

The whole point is that you need to train yourself (believe me it ain't easy) and alter your thought patterns to materialize positive things and achieve the success you've always wanted in life.

If you're thinking about losing your job in these tough times, then sooner or later you'll lose your job. If you're constantly worrying about debt, you'll never get out of debt. If you keep thinking that every Internet Marketing program is like the last, then sure enough it will be.

The universe doesn't give a damn in what context you think about these things. At the end of the day, if you're thinking about getting out of debt, you're ultimately still thinking about debt. Instead of thinking about getting out of debt, think about having $500,000 in your bank account!

Get it?

Believe me it takes time and this stuff isn't easy. I've gotten into the whole world of Spiritualism over the past couple of years and so this all seemed a little more "natural" to me to begin with. Having said that, I was stunned at how negative my thoughts were and to the sheer extent of how absolutely everything you think about has repercussions.

I highly recommend you get your hands on this stuff and give it a try

lakishacopeland

The law of attraction works whether people believe in it or not. If you are attracting not so good people or things to you. Somewhere in your subconscious you believe you don't desere better. If people would just analize their personal relationships, they can see that this stuff works.

Great Post

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cgallagher93

Fully agree with you Lakisha, there's so many people concentrating on slating one another in these forums that they will NEVER get to where they want to be.

Thanks!

Gerardas Norkus

Sure, the law of attraction works. All our thoughts and emotions (our inside world) express our material world.

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Paul M

cgallagher,

You believe the universe actively helps you get what you want?

Can you give one credible example of the "law of attraction" working that would hold up to reasonable scrutiny?


-Paul

RichPirate

I'm also a skeptic when it comes to The Law Of Attraction, but the truth is this works not because of some pseudo quantum science, but because of some well researched psychology. The more you think about something the more it influences the things you pay attention to.

For example, you maybe be thinking about having 500,000 in your bank account, so you will begin to see things in your life that will help you do that, things that you may have missed before (ie. a friend who is working in a business you want to get into, a book sitting on the book shelf you put off reading, a great product idea that comes from reading the newspaper etc...)

it's not magic, it's very simple psychology that works

Paul M

Couldn't have said it better.

Another example would be:

Your researching for answers to a question. Then you login to the warrior forum and quickly see threads that address or answer that question. Those threads would have been present anyway, but you may have otherwise missed them because it wasn't what you were focusing your attention on.

This isn't the universe helping, and those threads are not being attracted to you.

It is your attention that has been attracted to those threads because that's what your focusing on.


-Paul

BKenn01

Tony Robbins tells a story in one of his early tape sets (yes I had the cassette) of a couple who convinced themselves they would win the lottery. Even told people they had won. Sure enough, they won a large jackpot.

I go along with the philosiphy that you will get what you focus your energies on.

SergeyT

Yep! Right you are!

The Law of Attraction says you ATTRACT things you wish. So the universe modifies ITSELF in order to fulfill your wish.

It's a wrong shift of the focus. The universe around lives its own life and doesn't care a bit about our wishes. BUT!

The universe is so enormous that you may find virtually every possibility, every variant of events in it. What you really need to do is "tune" yourself to the right "direction". It's like finding your way in the open sea. You may listen to a number of advices to observe behaviour of fish around or examine the direction of bird fly... And what's interesting, such observations and hard work may and with your luck bring you to the shore, but will that shore be just where you wanted to come?

On the other hand, if you find a current, a stream heading in the direction you need to go it won't cost you an effort to be right where you wanted.

So to my mind the difference between LoA and real life is like difference betwen Ptolemy's system with the Earth in the center of the world and Copernican heliocentric cosmology - both work in their own way, but which one reflects the real state of things?

It's better to speak about intentions, cause the process of building an intention and its fulfillment resembles the way LoA works, but fully depends on you, your focus and your spare energy.

Best wishes,
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lakshaybehl

Now all of a sudden Quantum science is a pseudo science?

A real thing that can be verified is pseudo.

Wow!

Just wow!

Just FYI: Psychologists consider Law of Attraction as a pseudo law.

Quantum physics has some concrete material, but research still is far away from the order of dimension.

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STKING

Whether you are a skeptic or not on the Law of Attraction, it is definitely a real thing. How can you say that your attitude does not determine how your life is going to play out and how you will react to it? Of course it does. That is the essence of the Law of Attraction.

You ask for hard evidence, but how many things can be explained.... haven't we seen that our beloved "scientific thinking" cannot explain everything?

There have been many paradigm shifts in thinking and logic over the centuries both"proving" and "disproving" truth and fiction...it keeps flipflopping all the time. We just happen to live (in the U.S) in a culture that holds our 'scientific studies' to the nth degree. Whereas Asian cultures do not focus solely on science, but more essence and energy.

My experience comes from a recent visit to an Energy Healer. It was a profoundly weird and amazing and shocking and calming.

Energy is real and the Law of Attraction is Energy. This entire world is just a bunch of vibration.

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I believe it all starts with self belief.

As a great man taught me years ago, "It's what you say to yourself, about yourself while you are by yourself that makes the difference".

cgallagher93

Well said.

I think too many people are getting carried away with the reason "why" the law of attraction works. The real thing you should be focusing your attention on here is not who, what, where, how or why but the fact that it just is.

The bottom line is the law of attraction works. I'm a 16 year old kid. If you knew me personally you'd probably say I was the last person on earth to believe all this weirdo-techy-science-spirtual stuff...

The point is, since I've started applying the laws I've started noticing fundamental shifts going on around me. The birth of new ideas, situations that people might call "coincidence" or heck, luck.

Different cultures teach similar concepts in different ways, much like in the way religion is preached. Catholics believe in God, Muslims believe in Allah and Spirtualists believe in an Energy Source. Call it what you will, they're all based on a similar concept - energy.

Instead of fighting over what each other should believe in, we should focus on appreciating the fact that our perception of things is variable. We're all different and we all think differently. Cool!

So why the heck should we worry about the fact that someone "sees" something in a different way to ourselves? Because ultimately, we all believe in a similar concept that is an energy source. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what name tag we attach to it...

Whether its psychological science or spritual theory, the law of attraction exists and it works. Whether the universe has the power to move and alter your fate or whether what you think materializes what you want because of some sub-conscious brain patterns, who on earth gives a damn?

Think about what you want long enough, believe it and you will ultimately materialize it!

SergeyT

Once upon a time... I heard such a story...

In fact it was not just a story but an exercise in attempts to understand what we all are.

So, imagine the following artificial situation:

Given: a large room or rather a cellar - lower the ground level - with a raw of windows just under the ceiling on one side and an empty wall on the opposite side. And it is the world for those who live in this room.

There are several primary restrictions for this situation:
- everyone in the room can look only in one direction, namely see the empty wall (they cannot turn their heads or body to look at each other or outside the windows)
- the sun (or just light) shines all the day round, and on the wall there can be seen shadows of people, animals and things moving outside the room
- sounds can be heard
- people outside are not aware of those inside

The question: what do those living in this room know about themselves and about the outside world? In general - what is their world like?

You may try to speculate on this and apply your conclusions to the world we all live in...

And another "story":

A mom asks her 3-year old daughter:
- Why do you think the wind bolws?
- Because the trees are swinging.

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RichPirate

Quantum physics is not a pseudo science. The "quantum physics" presented in "The Secret" are. Is it true that scientists have seen light act as both a wave and a particle. The observer does indeed affect what is observed. For example, you change everything you look at because light bouces off your eyes and back in to the enviornment.

To make the leap from that to the conclusion that our "consciousness" changes our environment is unfounded at best and really completely ridiculous.

Psychologists have said for a long time that what we pay attention to has a lot to do with what we are thinking about. We can in fact completely delete things from our awareness if we are not looking for them.

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Daniel E Taylor

You guys throw around the law of attraction like
it's some kind of toy we can choose to use or not.

It goes much deeper than that.

Most of the "Skeptics" are only that because of pure ignorance
(The act of ignoring).

If someone would stop thinking for a minute and payed undistractable
attention to reality and not to their perception of reality they could
easily see the universal laws at work.

When someone says "Well prove it to me", it only shows their ignorance.
It's not something that needs proving. Just open your eyes and shut your
mouth for a second and begin to really take a REAL look at reality and not
the societal roles which keep most people blind to the depths of their
own soul.

All one would have to do is the spiritual work to get to the level of being
able to see the "Law of attraction" at work all the time.

I just finished a 2 MONTH meditation retreat over the summer so I don't
need science or anyone to "Prove" anything.

I'm smart enough to just look for myself instead of looking to outside opinions
of what is real. Because the person your asking is still just that. Another person
looking for answers.

Look into the depths of your own soul, and don't worry about convincing
others. That's not your job. Everyone has their own path.

The truth is you really don't want to convince others, you are still trying
to convince yourself so you want others to agree with you and if they don't
it starts to give you doubt.

Again law of attraction is just one law of the universe, but provides the moment
by moment mirror to show you exactly what your current vibrational level is.

Daniel

Self Actualization is one's true purpose. Everything
else is an illusion.

Daniel E Taylor

Is it completely ridiculous because you haven't experienced it?

Do a meditation retreat for 2 months and come back and tell me
what is utterly ridiculous.

I feel for you because your blindness will can only lead
to suffering. Which is what you experience during most of
your existence, whether you admit it or not.

Daniel

Self Actualization is one's true purpose. Everything
else is an illusion.

loenex

law of Attraction works for people whether consciously or in our subconscious mind. People tend to know what they want, then they ask , they visualize and they are open to receive or let go of of the things they want.

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The law of attraction

ugh

How I *hate* drivel like that.

Listen, its TRUE. Buts its silly to make it complicated and right an entire book on it.

I mean, Napolean Hill did; and we've all read think and grow rich.

But do you want to know the secret? The law of attraction, and all of that nicely packaged self help stuff?

Your *are* what you think ABOUT.

Not *what* you think.

Not what you *think* about DOING.

What your doing, because of what you think.

Its a double edged sword. Simply combined action, with a persistent thought process on why your taking those actions; and how you can make them more effective and of course youll succeed. You'll keep trying and failing until you figure out the solution!

And of course, putting your subconscience to work on a task always helps.

ddistco

The law of attraction is real. I agree with Lakisha. Whether you believe it of not you attract what you believe and what you think about based on your intention of a thing, circumstance or situation. If you intent is to be unsure the law of attraction will just say OKAY to that thought and bring it right to you served on a silver platter. ~ NO PROBLEM!

We have the power to attract what it is that we want in our lives simply by speaking to it backed by our belief that it is there and will reveal itself to us.

I believe that...

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pierro

I totally agree, I have the book and as well the ebook.
That's why I don't believe in "good luck"
good one CG93
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Chrissy Allen

Hi Guys,

For me the law of attraction is an every day part of my life, ive used it since i was very young and it makes me smile when people call it crap or say it doesnt work etc...
I have to say though i never really talk to anyone about it or try to persuade people that it works. Ive got it and use it and use it very well but i just dont advertise it, it is my little secret in someways.
Its good that it is being brought up in these forums though, because eventually everyone will know its very useful and wont be able to deny it (like a lot of people do) anymore.
The shift in our thoughts and beliefs is happening fast and picking up pace almost daily. I do know whats happening and i am very switched on with regard to the future and the earth shattering truths that will change our world for the better.

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cgallagher93

John, I'll send you a PM.

Seems like we're actually getting some like-minded people in this thread now! It's great to see I'm not the only one who thinks like this...

To be honest, I think you are right. We shouldn't be trying to convince people but rather share our thoughts with each other to learn and grow both as Internet Marketers and individuals.

Great meetin you guys

Connor

zenmack

Original Poster and others, I have been teaching the principles for over 5 years now. I have seen it work in my own life and I have helped many men discover how they were killing their dating lives from not applying the law of attraction and vibration.

I have done over 700 podcast shows and my main theme has been so it is within so it is without.

I know have a 15 day ecourse with videos and podcasts and articles that I am putting guys through and ALL of them have come out awakened to the matrix individuals.

The problem is that people think that sitting back and wishing for something is all that it takes. For a man looking for love it certainly is not going to knock on his door and move right in.

I used to go to the Unity Church and I would notice a room full of well wishers. People who sat back wishing for success to drop out of the sky instead of getting out there and applying the law of action to their lives.

"He helps those who help themselves"

And as one wise man once said "seek and ye shall find." That man did not say sit on your buns and it shall find you.

The law of attraction bought me to the internet. I own a offline business but now the majority of my income is coming from the internet since I put it into my head to fire my offline clients.

Again and again I have seen these laws of the universe active in my life.

For the naysayers who have taken the blue pill I have no issues with. I will keep on doing me while I hope they keep on doing what they do.

I realize many are those left brain types whom need for it to be written in stone by the world most famous and smartest scientist then it will become true.

What they don't realize is that the smartest people in the world have been working on it since Einstein. Too bad he died before he could solve the problem.

I invite those people to check out the current brain trusts information that is available out there and their new theory called Quantum Entanglement.

vc2008

"Focus on what you want and not what you don't want" is the mantra I learnt from my Hindu Spiritual gurus. This has really worked for me.

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GrantFreeman

Watched WTBDWK- "Down the rabbit hole"

The entanglement topic, once you open your mind to it, gets addictive. It's complicated, fun, fascinating, mysterious but simple at the same time. Mind blowing.

I find myself asking some of the most outlandish but intelligent questions. I'm also amazed at the potential of what's to come in the future. Here's the latest..

"Why is it that when researchers "observe" an electron particle it's form changes from a "particle" to a "wave?"

A) Is it because we simply are not suppose to see it's true nature- or
B) is it because our own "intention" energy is causing it to change?

For the op:

I agree it works, but not in the way you might be thinking it works. It works because you might have realized that you are actually greater than what others or yourself has led you to believe. It works because you decided it works.

You chose not to conform to the "herd" mind of thinking and doing, and search for deeper meaning. Maybe.

"Blah! This whole subject is stupid" Guess what? You're right.

"People are dumb if they think the law of attraction is "real! Ha-ha"- Right again! Sometime in the future, maybe you open yourself up to accepting better opinions of the potential of others.

Grant

RichPirate

How about it's because the measuring device interferes with the wave? This is really the accepted conclusion. WTB is trying to sell you a fringe idea as if it is mainstream and then sell you more products.

Aronya

What you want is irrelevant.

What you focus your attention on is what you will receive more of. Money problems bothering you? Keep worrying about them and guess what? You'll have more of them.

LOA is at work in all of our lives, from the moment we are born, whether we are aware of it or not. You cannot exist without using it, just as you cannot exist without using other natural laws, like gravity.

You do not need to believe in it. It is in action in your life anyway, just like the other natural laws. You don't have to believe that the earth is round (there are people who don't), but you will never find the edge.

Test it. Pick a small goal. Something that you would LIKE to have happen in your life. Something believable for YOU. Then, every day for 30 days, write down the goal 10 times. Afterward, spend just 5 minutes quietly thinking (meditating) about how you will feel when this goal is achieved, and give thanks to yourself for creating the outcome. Then, just forget about it for the day, and go about your life.

Rules:
1. Be specific about the goal.
2. Be specific about the deadline.
3. If you miss a day, you must start over.
4. Do not worry about whether it will work.
5. Do not worry about HOW it will work - it is not your job.
6. Do not worry about whether or not you believe in it.
7. Do not dwell on the reasons why it can't/won't/shouldn't work.

I used a system very much like this when I was going to go to South America on a vacation, about 20 years ago. Thru a complicated series of events, I was given a plane ticket, and decided that I wanted to have $1000 to spend on my trip. I had never had ANY success with positive affirmations, visualizations, etc. Also, I had never had $1000 in my hand (or my bank account) in my life. But, the day I stepped on that plane, I had it in my pocket.

I had never heard of LOA then, but I had demonstrated it to myself. You can do the same. Start with small things. As you begin to believe that you did actually have something to do with creating these things, you can start to expand the scope of what you create. As your successes become larger, so will your belief.

GrantFreeman

RichPirate,

Good question. No answer I'm wondering why it didn't effect the particle too.

Watching the movie, it sounds like they use a recording device that is separate of human interaction. Or is it?

(a sidewalk is a sidewalk until a human body walks across it. Ten minutes later you can see the footprints of a person on the sidewalk with an infared camera)

Then they play back a tape and observe that? That's where it gets mind boggling to me.

If it's true that we are all connected, there are many variables to consider. Too many to list without feeling nutty

If one spins a particle, the one thousands of miles away spins. But what is really the essence of a mile? We are conditioned to believe and accept that there is nothing between the space between you and I.

In reality, there are millions of different types of atoms like oxygen, carbon dioxide and others. All forms of some type of energy.

Like that one Doctor says. It's like asking about the political strategy of a tuna sandwich- does it even make sense to ask the questions.

By the way, I don't think it's wrong to sell an idea, if I understand you correctly. I like the fact that there are so many ways of approaching the idea of LOA or "The Secret" or "You get what you focus on". Why?

A person in a room full of 1,000 people can say a thing and it might make sense to only 5 of them. Another person can say the same thing in a different way, and 500 will think it makes sense. That's only your perception.

That perception or opinion you have is not "wrong" it's simply "yours"

Grant

Paul M

So what your saying is people should just blindly believe what they're told by a few marketers who have spun an old idea, added in some pseudo quantum physics and new age thinking, and repackaged it as a secret? The 'law of attraction' isn't even a law. It's a theory at best. Only this one slants more towards personal (material) gain which especially appeals to the entitlement crowd.

Not saying you're part of the entitlement crowd or it's wrong to believe in it. It's your choice, however I just don't agree we should suspend critical and rational thinking in exchange for just believing blindly.

The law of attraction seems to work because you've chosen to make a commitment in believing it. And since then you've probably been attributing events in your life to the law of attraction. In reality, and all else being equal, those events would have happened anyway. You've just chosen to attribute them to law of attraction IMO.

No ones fighting. Just expressing different views. Looking at things from different perspectives can be a good thing. It allows people to make a more balanced or informed judgement when choosing what to believe. That's also one reason why forums can be of great benefit.

Daniel,


That's the typical narrow-minded response i've seen before from some believers when presented with either questions they cannot answer or non-believers.

Again, blind belief seems to be the order of the day. If you choose to blindly believe what you're told by some new age marketers and there films and books. Fine. However, some of us choose to acknowledge and question things that clearly don't add up or don't make any logical sense. That's not ignorance.

How's your credit card feeling after open wallet surgery? j/k

You mean what's real to you. Tell me, did you just look within yourself one day and found the LOA? Or did someone else introduce the idea to you?



Just my 3 cents.

-Paul

RichPirate

Well look at it this way, as long as there are true believers the new age niche well keep going strong

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cgallagher93

Paul M,

To be honest pal I think you made some perfectly valid points. I agree that forums are great places to share opinions and empathise with other people's perspectives on things.

What I don't agree with, however, is the way you put your point across. I felt as though you were just going to go out of your way to disagree with everyone in this thread who said something you didn't like... and you're talking to us about taking other people's views into consideration?

I don't really care if you believe in the Law of Attraction or not. I'm not trying to create some weirdo cult group to turn everyone on the Warrior Forum into Bible Bashers and crazed Spiritualist Leaders...

In MY opinion, you could have put your post across in a much nicer manner had you taken a little more time to think it through. Instead, you half-heartedly made an effort to openly disagree with people and p*ss them off in the process.

Besides, if you don't believe in it, why waste the time to go posting about it?

Oh... and I'm not trying to sell nothing to nobody...

SergeyT

Dear cgallagher93, please do not feel offended by paul m!

It is so human to firmly stick to ideas in your age but there are a lot of people and there are a lot of opinions.

The posts in the forum are not only for supporting what the initiator said, the forum itself is the "place for public discussion", so any opinions are welcomed here.

"For, in this case, the danger is not that of being refuted, but of being misunderstood." (Immanuil Kant)

Sometimes it happens in life that you do things, encounter events and feel that there is something behind those fortuities, something connects cause and outcome. You begin to notice that when you do certain things or use certain methods the result is favorable and vice versa. And suddenly - wow! - you come across a profound explanation as to why this happens.

For you (by the moment) it doesn't matter whether this explanation is full or partial, scientific or mistic, or whatever it may be... The most important for you is that it explains what you were interested in, and in the way close to what you're already prepared yourself for. For sure such explanation becomes a sacred one to you and every argument against it makes you feel at least uncomfortable.

But think a bit, aren't there many cases in human history when generally acepted (and worshiped) concepts with time become false ones or parts of more general ones?

You see, unfortunately all human beings (well, almost all ) are INTERPRETERS. We perceive, "sense" the world around as it is (really is) but filter it through our consciousness, our experience, our mindset... so we interpret everything in our life instead of just perceiving it. As a result the world of energies (not three-dimensional) becomes subjective 3D surrounding. More than that - in fact we all live in 2D world (not in the terms of physics). Practically all by what we operate has two opposite ends: up-down, good-bad, plus-minus, etc. It's a DUAL world of ours.

Exceptions are so rare that we don't put much attention to them, e.g. three primary colours mixed result in white (or black if painted), the concept of Trinity in religion - a unity of three results in whole different quality.

What I want to say...

You should never put aside any opinion you come across (or as you may interpret it - opinion that you attracted into your life ), but instead look at it as a filed for thinking, learning something else, something that may (and will) broaden your own view. You'll only benefit form it.

Best regards,
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Of course it works.

A few years ago I was working full time as an investment banker in a job I hated. It took me almost an hour of driving in heavy traffic to get to the office before working 10 hours in a stressful, fast-paced job before driving home in even heavier traffic.

All I wanted in my imagination was to write. I couldn't think of anything else in the world that I wanted to do more, but deep down inside I didn't think I could match the amazingly high income I was earning as an investment banker.

Then one day a friend told me off properly. She said that my own thoughts were holding me back. I was thinking negative things about working at home full time and it was my own fault I hadn't gone full time with my true passion. She gave me a copy of 'The Secret'. I thought it was a weirdo hippie thing and ignored it for a while. She sat with me one day and made sure I watched it.

I thought about this long and hard. I wanted to believe I could match my income by sitting at home with my daughter. A month later, I quit my job as a successful, highly paid investment banker. I've been working full time as a freelance writer since.

I'm a single mom with a 4 year old daughter and a very large mortgage to pay and I do it comfortably each month with wonderful clients and plenty of opportunities open to me now.

I understand that these opportunities to work from home only opened to me when I opened my mind to the possibilities. I manifested the opportunities and then I worked hard to make good on those opportunities. My clients keep coming back, so I must be doing something right - but the most important thing is that I get to spend more time with my precious daughter.

to Paul M: Have you ever heard the saying "Whether you think you can or not, you're right"? Henry Ford is attributed to saying this and he's so right. I didn't believe it was possible to match a six figure income as an investment banker by sitting at home, so it didn't happen. When I chose to change my beliefs, I benefited by not only matching, but exceeding my previous income, yet I get to spend far more time with my daughter than I ever would have while working at a bank. It came down to my beliefs about what was possible and of course I took positive action to make it my reality.

My only wish is that I'd known about the law of attraction years ago!

Bianca

John Rogers

It does indeed work, often in most unexpected ways.

Here's a copy and paste of a story I posted to this board awhile back.


Every once in awhile I hear a word used in a context that sets a little light off in my head. My wife's acupunturist who has become a friend over the years is probably our only new thought friend. I was talking to her yesterday while my wife sat impersonating a pin cushion, and she used the word attract in a context that I previously likely would have used the word manifest.

I had a similar experience years ago with the word intend. I'd read it in the Castaneda books a number of times, but I think it was a Deepak Chopra audio that sparked the aha moment for me and caused me to think deeply about the act of intention.

I haven't actively practiced LOA type stuff since long before law of attraction became the buzzword it is now, but I have manifested things in the past with incredible results.

Anyway, here's the the story...

About four months ago my wife acquired a tortoise for our grandkids. Someone who owed her some money had two and was trying to sell them. It wasn't likely that my wife was going to get paid, so she took one of the tortoises as partial payment. The tortoise had a runny nose, so we took it to the vet, found out that it was getting about zero nutrition from what it was being fed, so we educated ourselves on tortoise care and passed the information on to the lady who we got the tortoise from.

About a month later my wife discovered that the lady who still had the other tortoise hadn't changed it's diet, so my wife took that one in trade against the debt as well to prevent her from killing it.

We had the first tortoise at our house for awhile before the kids were ready to take it, and became somewhat attached to it. We decided that tortoises were pretty cool pets. When we gave them the second one, it was with the understanding that when the kids decided they no longer wanted two, or when they grew so big that caring for two became overwhelming (this variety gets BIG), we would take one of them.

I got swept up in the whole tortoise thing, and began looking for a large used aquarium to keep one in. I found one rather quickly, bought it, and put it in the garage. I suppose this is the point where you can say I truly intended to have a tortoise.

Fast forward a month or so after I bought the aquarium...

I was home alone one weekend, had fired up the grill, and was waiting for the coals to ash over. I heard our dog barking and looked out the slider into the back yard to see what she was barking at. She was in the near corner of the yard barking and scratching the ground at the base of the fence. I figured she had chased a garter snake or something to the fenceline, and it had escaped under the fence. I told her knock it off and returned to the kitchen to finish getting the meat ready to put on the grill.

After I went back outside, the dog was gone. I put the meat on the grill, grabbed a beer, and sat down in a lawn chair. As I began relaxing, I looked across the yard to my left, and saw the dog had something between her paws that she was gnawing on. It didn't look like one of her toys, so I walked over to see what it was.

It was a tortoise!

I snatched it away from the dog and inspected it. It must have been quick to retract into it's shell because it didn't appear that the dog had done any damage. After looking at the spot on the fenceline where I saw her barking earlier, it appeared that the tortoise may have been burrowing under the fence.

I live in western Washington state. Tortoises don't live in the wild here. An escaped or abandoned pet tortoise very likely wouldn't survive the wet weather for long. We live in a development of about 70 homes just past the edge of town. The closest home outside the development is probably at least half a mile. We were unable to find anyone in the development missing a tortoise. We have no idea where it came from. Wherever it came from, it is well cared for now.

Fast forward again to yesterday...

We were at the acupuncturist's house. My wife was getting her treatment and asked if we had told her about the tortoise. She said no, and I basically just told her that the dog found a tortoise in the yard, and I rescued the tortoise from the dog. She chuckled and said, "John attracted a tortoise."

I hadn't considered it in those terms. The synapses started firing and in that moment I came to truly understand the meaning of attraction.

John

cgallagher93

What a small, small world...

My mother has this book. Everything I mention to her about the law of attraction she comes up with a quote from the book lol!

Aronya

cgallagher93;
Look for a video called "The Secret Behind The Secret". It's about Jerry & Esther Hicks. It will blow your socks off.

don21stc

Hi,
I've read a lot of the posts and as far as I'm concerned the LoA jury is still out.
There are people who say that homeopathic medecine works - I presume it's because they believe strongly enough in it so that it works for them, or is it that they are desperate for it to work, so therefore it works?
The same could be the case for LoA.

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GrantFreeman

Do you mean that you haven't gathered enough positive opinions yet so you can feel comfortable enough to join the crowd of believers? If that's the case, you're way off base..

The LOA, Quantum Physics, Personal Power, whatever you choose to call it is "working". It's working weather you believe it does or not. It works best for the people who let it work in their lives.

It's not some kind of natural medicine. Not a placebo. Not a religion. It's a matter of a person "waking up" to the fact that the world is bigger and much more spectacular than what you were conditioned to see. Most people prefer to live in a bubble. They never allow themselves to experience anything greater to what's going on inside them or around them.

It's about you realizing that you are greater than, and have far more potential than what you were conditioned to believe since you were in grade school.

It's about loving yourself more. Accepting people for who they are. It's about loving other people more. It's about seeing the big picture. Letting go. Not owning other people's problems. Removing limitations that keep us down. You allow it or you don't. Whatever you choose is your own doing. It's taking responsibility for you. Making your own choices based on what it is that you truly want to do.

Reminds me of the movie The Matrix. Only there is no evil machines that use us as batteries, and we don't have to be asleep and dreaming to do great things.

There are no coincidences. No accidents. No worrying about what other people think. No struggling or wondering if it "works" or not. No more making excuses. Everything happens for a reason, and it's usually to get our attention about something. It's so simple it's complicated.

That's what the "LOA" is about for me. it's about remembering who I really am. Not about beliving what other people expect me to become. Their expectations don't mean squat.

My suggestion to you, is to think about thinking for yourself. You already know the answer to your question. You just haven't allowed yourself to realize it.. yet.

Grant

Daniel E Taylor

*Shrugs*

Daniel

Self Actualization is one's true purpose. Everything
else is an illusion.

SergeyT

Well, it's not the same case It's more about interpretation or approach of people.

You see, the effect of homeopatic is proved by science - the organizm (not only human, but that of animals and plants as well) gives a strong reaction to a tiny portion of particular substances, e.g. poisons. Such quantity of poison doesn't really harm the organism but the organism gathers inner resourses and tries to overcome possible threat. The effect is positive for health.

As for the Law of Attraction...

In a few words it can be defined as "what you think you attract": "Whatever is going on in your mind you are attracting to you" (Bob Proctor - The Secret)

The main word here is "attract". "ATTRACTION implies the possession by one thing of a quality that pulls another to it" (attraction - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary)

You see the approach here? One thing (a person) posesses a certain quality that pulls another thing (events, things, everything in life) to it. Is such quality universal? If yes, then everything in the universe has it. A deer magnetizes a hunter's shot (not only the hunter attracts the meat to feed his family), a pine magnetizes being cut down (not only the logger attracts timber to build his house or sell it), a cockroach magnetizes being poisoned (not only a housewife attracts a house "clean of insects") and so on and so forth.

The LoA strangely concerns only human beings as those posessing such quality. All the rest of the world seems to be a mere "responder" to our thoughts.

So the picture is as follows: a human being is in the center of universe with its unique magnetizing quality and all the rest of the world serves this King of nature. Resembles something, doesn't it?

Another apporach you may find in different kinds of religion. They say that everything that happens in our life is the will of God (or Gods - depending on the belief system). This approach says that you should follow some basic principles to be in line with the God's will and as a result your life (or your afterlife) will be happy. (By the way, such basic principles vary so much from culture to culture that those deemed to be mortal sins for some followers are believed to be great virtues for other ones).

The picture here (very much simplified) is as follows: in the center there is God who governs all the rest of the world (including humans, animals, plants and not living beings). If you are in accord with the God's will - everything is OK, if not - get ready for punishment.

Yet another approach you find with science. It says that there are laws, rules that we know and there are laws and rules that we don't know yet. In the center there is universe, and all the rest - being part of it - follows the laws (whether known or unknown) valid for more general system.

So you see, one and the same event, thing or process in life may be explained from different points of view. Which explanation is "true" or "working" or "real" depends on the base used for the explanation.

Best wishes
Sergey

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RichPirate

Actually that's just what practitioners of homeopathy say. The truth is that there is no scientific evidence for the effectiveness of homeopathic remedies:

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Michael Townsend

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cgallagher93

Probably because James Arthur Ray wasn't determined enough. Don't get me wrong, this stuff isn't easy. It takes time to truly alter your thoughts and not think about anything negative. I'm probably only 20% of the way there at the moment but it's already working for me!

You also need to believe in it. If you try it and yet have a niggling doubt in the back of your mind it won't work. Well, I don't think so anyway. Refering to the Simpsons example, one person can't change things for an organization. Did you ever stop to wonder that just maybe the other 50 people used the Law of Attraction to make the Simpsons a successful and long-lasting TV show?

My opinion is that you can either go on living your life like everyone else, basically on a one-dimensional route to death, or you can try to understand the universe and make changes in your life for the better. Call it sprituality, call it psychology call it energy, call it whatever the heck you like... it's gotta be worth a try, hasn't it?

Aronya

Belief is irrelevant. Believing in laws of physics doesn't make them any more real or powerful. Not believing doesn't make them any LESS real or powerful, either.

The REASON to think positive thoughts is for the way they make you feel. The way you FEEL about what you are thinking is a guide to using LOA effectively. When you feel strongly about something, and make an effort to hold onto those feelings, you begin to see more manifestations of similar things in your life. Positive or negative, it makes no difference.

A baseball player hits a home run in a critical situation. He feels great about it. Next at-bat, he is still feeling the effects of that home run. Does he hit another? It's happened. But, more likely, he just gets another hit. The good feelings are reinforced. Pretty soon, he's really in the zone, and seems not to be able to do anything wrong.

Is this an example of LOA? Not exactly. More correctly, it's an example of someone allowing LOA to bring them what they want. They always wanted success as a player, and always had some level of it; it's inevitable. But, the biggest, most consistent successes come when we don't focus on creating them, but rather on allowing them to happen.

A lot of what's being talked about here is positive thinking, not LOA. There is a difference. Think whatever you like; LOA will still be doing its best to deliver to you things and experiences that resonate with your feelings.

"the secret didn't work to well for james arthur ray." This statement comes from someone who either hasn't seen or read The Secret, or didn't understand it. To me, that's not surprising. I've seen bits and pieces of the movie, and it doesn't do a very good job of laying out the concept in simple terms. They seem to prefer to let the viewer piece it all together.

I'd like to hear from the naysayers what they think LOA is, and how it is supposed to work. Anybody care to give an honest explanation of their understanding of it?

Aronya

Great attitude! Whether you think you volunteered for it or not, we're all on this bus together. You might as well make an effort to enjoy the trip, right?

GrantFreeman

See what you did here?

The words you've chosen seem to suggest that the universe/energy/high power/whatever must punch a time-clock for Mr. Ray.

Are you suggesting that it's the Universe's job to take responsibility for his success or demise?

-Grant

doctfeelgood

What wise words that actually sums up the Law of Attractions principles. Thoughts become things? What you perceive is what you get.