If you have read Psycho Cybernetics and understand it ...

TimCastleman · 11-03-2009, 09:43 PM

I need to talk with you. Seriously, if you have gone through the exercises, understand the book and concepts behind it shoot me a PM.

sanjid112 · 11-04-2009, 05:55 AM

Why won't talk here, in your own thread?
Why we should shoot you a PM?
Since in my opinion, post new thread is to share with other and asked for comment about it.

-Malik

Loren Woirhaye · 11-04-2009, 08:05 AM

I think I understand it. I don't do the exercises because I developed
my own methods over many years prior to reading the book.

I consider PC to be a rationalist method for creating change. I've
been influence more by NLP and the practice of making intentional
shifts in my behavior, plus other esoteric and intuitive stuff
I've learned and developed over many years in yoga.

Are you struggling with the method, Tim? or having a crisis
caused by doing the practices? Sometimes these things happen.

GT · 11-04-2009, 11:20 AM

Hi, Tim:

I haven't read Psycho-Cybernetics, Maxwell Maltz, M.D., for quite a few years, so I don't remember any specifics. I do remember enjoying it and benefiting from it. So, I will add it to my reading list and when I can get to it, I will read, review and respond here.

GT

Mr. Goof Off · 11-04-2009, 11:45 AM

Love the case studies in the book ....I wish I had the original unfortunately I got the other one.

I just try and use my brain(remembering the case studies) when I think about its' use.

TimCastleman · 11-04-2009, 04:21 PM

Thanks for the replies. I am a visual and auditory learner and reading it isn't working for me so I want to spend some time with someone on the phone/skype that can walk me through the darn thing to help me stop scratching my head.

Tim

TimCastleman · 11-05-2009, 10:18 PM

Anyone out there actually read this thing?

What I just want is the cliff notes version and say here is the system in the nutshell, here is how you use it, etc.

Nobody?

Tim

Loren Woirhaye · 11-06-2009, 11:38 PM

I'll take another look through the book and get back to you in a
few days, Tim.

I see the psychocybernetics method as primarily willpower driven.
There's not much hocus pocus to that - you sincerely have
to want to make change in your way of being. Personally
diet is a big part of my discipline and Maltz didn't emphasize
food choices much. I feel a lot of foods people like to eat
poison the mind, acid-forming foods mostly.

When the acid-forming foods leave the diet, negative and
repetitive thought patterns are said to decrease. Brian
Tracy has cited this. I don't know if it's true but my own
experiences with diet suggests it may very well be so.

Trying to change the way you feel about yourself when
your blood-chemistry is out of whack is like trying to
make your car go with a flat tire. The basic message of
Maltz is that everbody grows one day at a time and we
all backslide, but you need to learn to separate who you
are - a capable and worthy person deserving of success
and love - from the day-to-day experiences you might
have where things don't go your way; for example, if you
are a salesperson sometimes sales aren't happening, but
you separate the experience of not being in the flow
with sales from your real self-esteem. The way I see
it if you want to be successful you should guard your
inner self and your enthusiasm and virtues. So even if
you go through bad times you can convince yourself you're
okay.

It's all a little touchy-feely and kind of "un-manly" when
you get into it. You have to be cool with opening up
to your inner child to really flower as a whole person -
that's my way of looking at it, but it jibes with Maltz, IMO.

ShaneRQR · 11-07-2009, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimCastleman

Thanks for the replies. I am a visual and auditory learner and reading it isn't working for me so I want to spend some time with someone on the phone/skype that can walk me through the darn thing to help me stop scratching my head.

Tim

There's an audio-book available. Maybe that would help you as an auditory learner.

I never read the book but I listened to the audio-book and I found it very interesting.
It seems like a slightly more rational and less fluffy approach to the whole intention manifestation thing.

Daniel E Taylor · 11-07-2009, 03:34 AM

Yes the basis of Pyscho Cybernetics, NLP, Sedona method, and
all the other similar methods can all be traced back to psychology
and our subconscious mind.

It's reprogramming the subsconscious mind because it's just like
a computer and it's what is shaping your world and controling
your habits.

It's quite simple.

Subconscious pattern ---- > Emotional State ----> Action (Habit)

So if you reprogram the first part in the chain the rest follow.

Your action is what gets your results in life. Many people know WHAT to
do to get the life they want, but fail to act on it. And it can all be traced
back to a subconscious pattern. A thought pattern that's holding you back.

Because you keep having the same reoccuring thought you identify yourself
as that, and your perception literally creates a world around you that
makes it seem real.

Maxwell strongly believed in the metaphysical as well. He even breifly talks
about it in the pyscho-cybernetic book.

I could write a book on it, but just remember the basis of all psychology is
pyscho-analysis then repgrogramming self sabatoging patterns something thats been around for about a century and a quarter.

Daniel

Ian Jackson · 11-07-2009, 04:29 AM

Take the easier route...

Read/apply the "The Master Key" (ISBN 0900 604 050) by Charles F Haanel. You can get an "original" copy by phoning R & W Heap Publishing at this number - even if you're not in the UK:
+44(0)161 427 3513.

And, see if you can get a copy of the twin CD set "The Cosmic Ordering Service" by Barbel Mohr (ISBN is 1-84456-396-0)

Loren Woirhaye · 11-07-2009, 08:15 AM

I wouldn't put PsychoCybernetics and Charles Haanel in the same
category. Haanel is basically metaphysical, which is not
how I would describe Maltz at all.

A person who hadn't read Maltz wouldn't know this however.

TDE · 11-07-2009, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye

I'll take another look through the book and get back to you in a
few days, Tim.

I see the psychocybernetics method as primarily willpower driven.
There's not much hocus pocus to that - you sincerely have
to want to make change in your way of being. Personally
diet is a big part of my discipline and Maltz didn't emphasize
food choices much. I feel a lot of foods people like to eat
poison the mind, acid-forming foods mostly.

When the acid-forming foods leave the diet, negative and
repetitive thought patterns are said to decrease. Brian
Tracy has cited this. I don't know if it's true but my own
experiences with diet suggests it may very well be so.

Trying to change the way you feel about yourself when
your blood-chemistry is out of whack is like trying to
make your car go with a flat tire. The basic message of
Maltz is that everbody grows one day at a time and we
all backslide, but you need to learn to separate who you
are - a capable and worthy person deserving of success
and love - from the day-to-day experiences you might
have where things don't go your way; for example, if you
are a salesperson sometimes sales aren't happening, but
you separate the experience of not being in the flow
with sales from your real self-esteem. The way I see
it if you want to be successful you should guard your
inner self and your enthusiasm and virtues. So even if
you go through bad times you can convince yourself you're
okay.

It's all a little touchy-feely and kind of "un-manly" when
you get into it. You have to be cool with opening up
to your inner child to really flower as a whole person -
that's my way of looking at it, but it jibes with Maltz, IMO.

i agree, i've been following a raw food diet and am finding i have more energy.

Daniel E Taylor · 11-07-2009, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye

I wouldn't put PsychoCybernetics and Charles Haanel in the same
category. Haanel is basically metaphysical, which is not
how I would describe Maltz at all.

A person who hadn't read Maltz wouldn't know this however.

Then you obviously haven't read MALTZ. Even in PsychoCybernetics
he talks about his strong belief in the metaphysical.

Loren Woirhaye · 11-07-2009, 02:49 PM

you're out of line, dude.

kennethtang · 11-07-2009, 03:58 PM

Tim,

I'd characterize PsychoCybernetics' major premise as Rational Imagination. Maxwell Maltz was a scientist first of all, with a "religious" or metaphysical bent (although not strictly in the mainstream Judeo-Christian sense).

He believed (and rightly so, in my view) that Imagination rules where Will fails to move. However, whatever else he posited about Imagination, Will, the subconscious, etc was based firmly on the fundamental functionality of the human brain as a goal-striving mechanism.

Imagination provided the "code" (the mental pictures) that "programmed" the brain-computer while Will (or Rational Thought) provided the guidance on WHAT to code. In other words, Will was the Guidance Mechanism while Imagination was the Power Mechanism.

Both had to work together in order to (re)programm the brain for better performance or a change of habit or to instil winning attitudes.

Maltz also believed that, much like the human body has its own healing force, the human brain has its own creative force and if left to its own devices and without interference (after some initial preparation) will come up with just the right answers to questons asked of it or a course of action to take.

Much of the interference comes from overly critical judgment of performance, inappropriate self-image concepts, inappropriate worry, taking things too seriously, etc.

His premises make a lot of sense and are, above all rational. While he was of a religious bent, his metaphysics was not that of "The Secret" or "The Master Key" whereby human beings affect reality via vibratory emanations from their minds or thoughts. His was a metaphysics of rationality whereby we change our "brain-paths" and thereby our attitudes and actions, and thence events and realities of our world via our actions.

A lot of applications can be found for his methods/theories. Some obvious areas include sports psychology and sales. PscyhoCybernetics can be put to great use here. Heck, all the principles, strategies, methods found in sports psychology can be found in PsychoCybernetics and vice versa.

For obvious reasons, there isn't enough time and space to go into all that PscyhoCybernetics contains, but I hope that the above has been of help.

Kenneth

JohnB23 · 11-08-2009, 02:07 AM

I'm not really into books like Psycho Cybernetics anymore (or nlp, or tony robbins).

But one part about Pyscho Cybernetics that sticks out for me is a passage about identity. I'm paraphrasing, but he said, "your identity is rock solid. Violating what you think your identity is, would be like a law abiding citizen becoming a criminal and violating the law". That was very powerful for me.

You think about the line between a law abiding citizen and a criminal. That's a very clear line. So you better know what your identity is. Because you'll act in ways to support your identity.

Daniel E Taylor · 11-08-2009, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennethtang

Tim,

I'd characterize PsychoCybernetics' major premise as Rational Imagination. Maxwell Maltz was a scientist first of all, with a "religious" or metaphysical bent (although not strictly in the mainstream Judeo-Christian sense).

He believed (and rightly so, in my view) that Imagination rules where Will fails to move. However, whatever else he posited about Imagination, Will, the subconscious, etc was based firmly on the fundamental functionality of the human brain as a goal-striving mechanism.

Imagination provided the "code" (the mental pictures) that "programmed" the brain-computer while Will (or Rational Thought) provided the guidance on WHAT to code. In other words, Will was the Guidance Mechanism while Imagination was the Power Mechanism.

Both had to work together in order to (re)programm the brain for better performance or a change of habit or to instil winning attitudes.

Maltz also believed that, much like the human body has its own healing force, the human brain has its own creative force and if left to its own devices and without interference (after some initial preparation) will come up with just the right answers to questons asked of it or a course of action to take.

Much of the interference comes from overly critical judgment of performance, inappropriate self-image concepts, inappropriate worry, taking things too seriously, etc.

His premises make a lot of sense and are, above all rational. While he was of a religious bent, his metaphysics was not that of "The Secret" or "The Master Key" whereby human beings affect reality via vibratory emanations from their minds or thoughts. His was a metaphysics of rationality whereby we change our "brain-paths" and thereby our attitudes and actions, and thence events and realities of our world via our actions.

A lot of applications can be found for his methods/theories. Some obvious areas include sports psychology and sales. PscyhoCybernetics can be put to great use here. Heck, all the principles, strategies, methods found in sports psychology can be found in PsychoCybernetics and vice versa.

For obvious reasons, there isn't enough time and space to go into all that PscyhoCybernetics contains, but I hope that the above has been of help.

Kenneth

MALTZ DID believe in a universal mind (God, source energy, etc...),
and that we are all connected just like what the "Secret" talks about.

Not just in "rational" metaphysics as you put it.

The reason is because a man as intelligent as MALTZ understood
that obviously we use the imagination to reprogram our brain,
but that doesn't explain what the imagination is or how it was
created.

So he realized there was another aspect to this than just
plain pyschology.

aniel

Rachel Rofe · 11-08-2009, 11:32 AM

Tim,

I'd get the audio version.

I listened to it and tried to read the book after, and found the audio to be 100x better (and I'm usually the opposite).

The narrator on the audio has lots of enthusiasm and it comes across much less dry than the book.

griswold · 11-08-2009, 05:13 PM

Dude, I've read Psycho-Cybernetics about 5 times. Awesome. I'd gladly talk to you about it. I understand how talking things through (with feedback) helps to enhance learning.

You can skype me: michaelgriswold

Once you get it, you'll love it. And, instead of feeling like its some sort of magic trick, you begin to understand that it's simply learning to take control of your thoughts.

As Winston Churchill said,

"The price of success is taking responsibility over each one of your thoughts."

Michael

John Henderson · 11-09-2009, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimCastleman

Anyone out there actually read this thing?

What I just want is the cliff notes version and say here is the system in the nutshell, here is how you use it, etc.

Hi Tim,

I don't know whether you already know about this, but there's an updated version of PC called "Psycho-Cybernetics 2000". It's been re-written by Bobbe Sommer in a much more up-to-date and approachable style. On Amazon.co.uk, you can pick up a used copy for £0.13, so I'm sure it'll be just as cheap wherever you are. Hope this helps.

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Loren Woirhaye gypsy accordion menace War Room Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amherst, Massachusetts Posts: 3,157 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 75 Thanked 489 Times in 354 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: If you have read Psycho Cybernetics and understand it ... I'll take another look through the book and get back to you in a few days, Tim. I see the psychocybernetics method as primarily willpower driven. There's not much hocus pocus to that - you sincerely have to want to make change in your way of being. Personally diet is a big part of my discipline and Maltz didn't emphasize food choices much. I feel a lot of foods people like to eat poison the mind, acid-forming foods mostly. When the acid-forming foods leave the diet, negative and repetitive thought patterns are said to decrease. Brian Tracy has cited this. I don't know if it's true but my own experiences with diet suggests it may very well be so. Trying to change the way you feel about yourself when your blood-chemistry is out of whack is like trying to make your car go with a flat tire. The basic message of Maltz is that everbody grows one day at a time and we all backslide, but you need to learn to separate who you are - a capable and worthy person deserving of success and love - from the day-to-day experiences you might have where things don't go your way; for example, if you are a salesperson sometimes sales aren't happening, but you separate the experience of not being in the flow with sales from your real self-esteem. The way I see it if you want to be successful you should guard your inner self and your enthusiasm and virtues. So even if you go through bad times you can convince yourself you're okay. It's all a little touchy-feely and kind of "un-manly" when you get into it. You have to be cool with opening up to your inner child to really flower as a whole person - that's my way of looking at it, but it jibes with Maltz, IMO.
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