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Old 11-12-2009, 03:37 PM   #1
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.... I recently did an article campaign of over a dozen articles in one particular niche, and another dozen in another niche.

I wrote and submitted these to EZA.

However one of them only made me $25-$50, and the other did jack squat. Nothing.

I did submit them all in the same day though I'm not certain if that matters or not.

These were for high-converting products too.

One of them sends people to a lead capture page so I get sales from the list funnel, the other is just a sales page (albeit a good one), for a high priced product.


I poured a ton of energy into this but got nothing out of it and gave up because I was drained.

Still, I know the money is there. I've had OCCASIONAL huge bursts of sales, but it's inconsistent.

My question is this:

What kind of strategy do you recommend for dealing with this, dealing with discouragement, and managing my energy more effectively to "weather the storms" and keep going?

Thanks warrios.

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HEY man as Jim Rohn would say -When the final book is written on your life, let it show your wins and your losses but don't let it show that you didn't play.

The fact that you tried something and failed doesn't mean the end of the world cause there is no such thing as failure, there is only feedback. Try to find out the lesson from this experience and learn from it.

You learnt what not to do. Try to find out what to do now. IT MAY mean having to invest in a coach or get advice or something. The key is to not quit for once you quit, THE DREAM ENDS!!!

Take care my friend!!!

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Never, ever, ever give up.

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Default Re: Discouraged by results.....

You are looking at your situation
in the wrong way.

Here's a way to look at it...I borrowed
this from "Be Who You Want Have What
You Want" by Chris Prentiss:

"The events that occur in your life are
workout situations. They are there for
YOUR BENEFIT so you can become strong
and gain wisdom and information by
working your way through those situations."

Instead of feeling like you've lost, think about
how this has benefited you.

Some people would kill to have that $25 or $50
just one time.

But that happened to you for a reason. There's
something you are to learn from that.

Ask for revelation knowledge and I bet you'll get
an "ah ha" moment.

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I totally Agree with everyone's suggestions, Keep Positive and Look at everything as a Learning Experience or just a stepping stone instead of a stepping block. Simply a part of the process to success!

Have a AWESOME Day on Purpose!

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.... I recently did an article campaign of over a dozen articles in one particular niche, and another dozen in another niche.

I wrote and submitted these to EZA.

However one of them only made me $25-$50, and the other did jack squat. Nothing.

I did submit them all in the same day though I'm not certain if that matters or not.

These were for high-converting products too.

One of them sends people to a lead capture page so I get sales from the list funnel, the other is just a sales page (albeit a good one), for a high priced product.


I poured a ton of energy into this but got nothing out of it and gave up because I was drained.

Still, I know the money is there. I've had OCCASIONAL huge bursts of sales, but it's inconsistent.

My question is this:

What kind of strategy do you recommend for dealing with this, dealing with discouragement, and managing my energy more effectively to "weather the storms" and keep going?

Thanks warrios.
Go with the positive. The campaign that made $25-50 needs to be split tested, to refine it. Continue doing what ever you did. Split testing fine tunes a campaign. It takes months of testing and testing and then still more tests. We are always split testing. Split test everything from your titles to your call to action. You'll find out interesting things. It's great that you understand list building. It Looks like you have a winner. You just need to continue. It takes stamina.

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HEY man as Jim Rohn would say -When the final book is written on your life, let it show your wins and your losses but don't let it show that you didn't play.

The fact that you tried something and failed doesn't mean the end of the world cause there is no such thing as failure, there is only feedback. Try to find out the lesson from this experience and learn from it.

You learnt what not to do. Try to find out what to do now. IT MAY mean having to invest in a coach or get advice or something. The key is to not quit for once you quit, THE DREAM ENDS!!!

Take care my friend!!!
Amen to that, Brother!

Out of interest...

What did you do for your campaign? Have you been following Terry Kyles 60 day experiment?

Terry Kyle’s Big 60-Day Backlink Experiment

You got something back, so I would call that a success, as many people make nothing at all. Just keep at it, rinse and repeat!! Don't forget that the work that you have done will remain, keep building links and over time you will up your earnings.

If it is not working for you, try some easier keywords. Find another niche, do more articles and go again. That's my advice.

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Still, I know the money is there. I've had OCCASIONAL huge bursts of sales, but it's inconsistent.

My question is this:

What kind of strategy do you recommend for dealing with this, dealing with discouragement, and managing my energy more effectively to "weather the storms" and keep going?
The cure for such advertising woes lies in your creative mind. You are
advertising, but the problem is your advertising is, while not totally
useless, much less effective than you would like.

Understandably that stresses you out a bit.

See - there's three big things that have to match-up for effective
advertising: message, market, and media. Those three factors
have to synch-up for good advertising to happen. With ezinearticles
you're dealing with a media channel that is... um... not ideal.

That's the major problem actually.

Then you have to look at whether your message synchs-up with
the media you are using. I'll assume you wrote some decent articles
and your resource box, headline and so forth are quite good.

Then there's the market. Are people looking to buy what you want
to sell in the media you are using?

With articles, often the answer is no.

Which is why you're getting burned out. Stop focusing on the
"easy" channel of articles. You've now discovered that writing
articles is burn-out city. While the benefit is you can stay in
your house and eat Cheatos while writing, the reality is you're
thinking you're "in the game" of marketing, but you really aren't.

It is easy to say "well, I'm comfortable writing and I don't have
to get off my ass and go talk to people, or pick up the phone,
or put-up flyers" - and what really is happening is you staying
within a "safe" comfort zone and not putting major energy out
in the marketplace through the media that are likely to get you
the results you want.

If you were you'd be doing a lot of other things besides writing
articles hoping for affiliate commissions.

Now - think about this - how often do you look at local bulletin
boards and see and ad promoting an affiliate offer? Not too
often.

Here's why: most folks who want to do IM also want to sit on
their butts. Lots of folks are looking for free article traffic
or SEO traffic, but not genuinely assessing if these tedious
endeavors are the best use of their time.

So start thinking about other channels of marketing and
promotion - like how to promote websites in your local marketplace -
but here's the rule: you cannot do it just by posting on
Craigslist, you have to write some ads and print them up
and distribute them in some way - get eyeballs on your
offer.

That's one way to break out of the tedious rut of dead-end
marketing.

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.... I recently did an article campaign of over a dozen articles in one particular niche, and another dozen in another niche.

I wrote and submitted these to EZA.

However one of them only made me $25-$50, and the other did jack squat. Nothing.
That's pretty good, actually. Your batting average is .500.

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I did submit them all in the same day though I'm not certain if that matters or not.
I don't think it matters.


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These were for high-converting products too.

One of them sends people to a lead capture page so I get sales from the list funnel, the other is just a sales page (albeit a good one), for a high priced product.
I would strongly suggest slowing it down a bit on how you're marketing
the high-priced product. Your conversions will be low if you hit people
cold with a higher priced product.

This is the market you need to do email/"relationship" marketing with. If
all your preliminary research gives you a "go" to proceed with this market
and product, then do incremental sales with them that lead to the higher
priced product.

Do list segmentation, as well.

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I poured a ton of energy into this but got nothing out of it and gave up because I was drained.
Drained? I know it requires effort. Digging ditches and laying hot tar on roofs
during the dead of summer is work.

It's really great to have passion for what ever you do. Don't lose it. So you
may need to reflect on how you manage/control/modulate your energy.

You accomplished a lot. It may not feel like it, but you did. No one hits homeruns
all the time. I know a very highly successful online marketer. He told me he has
only several successful products out of maybe a dozen, on average. He makes
millions online.

You had a successful campaign, so here's what you do:

1. Scale-up the successful campaign. Can it be expanded?
2. Do what I suggested above with the high priced product.
3. Make sure you're targeting converting keywords/phrases.
4. Are your articles optimized for kw's?
5. Are your articles optimized for converting at maximum.
6. Build on what you've done.

Try to put some solid, unemotional perspective on what's going on.

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What kind of strategy do you recommend
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You could start going to ezine and look at particular authors which get LOTS if views. How do their articles look, what do they sell?

If they sell "Product X", feel free to sell "Product X" also, regardless of how competitive the market seems to be. There are people submitting literally hundreds of articles each week, some/most of them about one niche or product.

Hint: Those writers submit those articles about that niche over an over since it prove for them to SELL WELL...so they continue with this, week by week by week and the cash comes in with every published article.

Also..in this regard, you dont even need to do proper "keyword research" or find this "very special, secret, but extremely hungry niche". You would be surprised what actually sells - affiliate products/keywords i would not touch with a long stick on adwords since it seems everyone and their mama is advertising it, very competitive mainstream products and very busy niches. But it works great on ezine articles.

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You have to write 100 articles/niche, create a blog or mini website for product reviews by niche...
Now do you know organic SEO ? You have to create a maximum of free blogs that will link all together and will point to your "main" blog or website !
These "free" blogs must be keywords targeted in their URL
Then you can use BH techniques on your freeblogs, not on your main site, for example you can use backlink softwares as PRStorm !
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