maksym

Hi
I am wondering is here any raw vegan?

I and my family nearly 2 years uses raw food diet.
And we really see dramatic changes.
Actually, we can't even go back to "normal" food.
We are so glad that we made such decision 2 years ago.
I remember how we started and we spent more then
6 months to change smoothly our lifestyle.
Actually, my wife started firstly and then I nearly her decided
to do that as well.
After nearly 10 months, I also decided to try 100% raw
food diet for at least 4 weeks. That was my biggest breakthrough...
( I was inspired by some books).
And now... we are nearly 90-95% of raw food use in our
nowadays. At summer time - it was way easier for us.
And our favorite food was simple tomatoes with garlic. Mmmmmm....
that is so tasty.
And now when winter is close we change food again to different
salads and different nuts with seeds.
We also have a daughter (may be you saw my videos).
She is 2,7 years old and almost never ate meat.
She is doing very great. And many time we have conflicts
with our old parents, which can't understand how it is possible
to use ONLY raw food diet. :-)

And how long are you with this style of living?

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Loren Woirhaye

I've done it on and off. The people I share my home with aren't ready
to do it though. Most people cannot make radical dietary changes
and backslide into older habits - comfort foods and things like that.

It's amazing that your kid is willing to do it. Once kids decide
they like some food (hot dogs for example) changing their
preferences are not easy. My girlfriend's young daughter is
a meat eater and intractably resistant to eating the vegetarian
diet her mom and I follow.

When I lived in a warmer climate (So. California) I was mostly
vegan and 50-95% raw at different times - eating more
cooked foods in the winter and mostly fruit blended foods
in the summer.

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Greg Jacobs

I go through sprints of it...

depends what is practical for the situation. and more importantly what your body requires.

James_Harkin

I have looked into Raw Food Diet and watched some videos and read some books by: Victoria Boutenko and David Wolfe.

See The Raw Family here: Raw Family | Victoria, Sergei and Valya Boutenko - Raw Food Information, books and DVDs
See David Wolfe here: David Wolfe

I have not converted to Raw Food as yet but want to. The problem I face is sourcing organic produce, the supply of which is limited in my local area. So I need to travel many miles. I have considered buying some land, around 2 acres to start a small organic vegetable & fruit farm and food forest.


Also see: Permaculture Research Institute of Australia

I also understand that it is necessary to rotate food, you cannot eat the same produce all the time since different toxins can build up, for example those starting on the raw food road may start on the Raw Green Smoothie diet:


However, once begun and enjoying such a diet it would be prudent to mix up the different food you consume to save getting ill. Just like crop rotation on farms, change from one form to another and so on.

Adding to raw food with super foods and distilled water, that for me would be the ideal diet, something I am looking at. However, its expensive if you are buying from organic stores.

Do you believe this is a good way of going about this, or do you have other suggestions that are better and healthier?

Regards

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TheDebtEliminator

I like to eat vegan, but find not pratical for 100%

So I am about 40% vegan, but 90% healthly

Sometimes I cheat while out with friends

At the Holiday time it is harder for me

Best Regards

Chris Faraday

It is a lifestyle decision, and time commitment. Most folk (and families) are really really hurting themselves - and it's sad - They have to be in a certain place or mindset to get into it.

I am mostly vegan, mostly raw, although low heat, low sweet and low meat like salmon, egg yolks & fresh wild turkey occasionally - brings a huge grounding & balancing effect. It is a technology & philosophy some can't get or groove on. Many ways to do it wrong - too much fat, too much fruit / nuts poor combining EATING POUNDS OF RAW MEAT - forget that one.

When you get more advanced it becomes about superfoods herbs & cleansing. You may even start to realize that the produce (even organic) is not right.

Lots of estrogens in plants, flax is overrated, hemp is good.

CHIA SEEDS ARE AMAZING & TRANSFORMATIVE!!
Soak & blend even better. 'Gotta try em.

I live for fresh aloe, goji's, blueberries, high speed blending of greens.

Really love what montel is doing - getting people to shell out $300 for a blender?? Yes!!! just do it

Learn about & share info on alkalinity, hydration & minerals (HAM)
Low heat is crucial, low sweet if you can.

It is a great community of remarkable & colorful people - kinda hippie freaky. But, the family of support is strong & vibrant.

Still learning - didn't mean to drag on - but it's more important than money and we should cater our offers towards responsible conscious products. : )

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Agnes Lyle

I'm vegan almost all the time, raw vegan when my body indicates it would like it.

By the way, the green smoothie man on the video recommends VitaMix blenders - I have one, and it is first-rate, but then so is the price. A major investment for the average earner. What do other people recommend?

Best regards,
Agnes

jpwilliams

I switched from a Midwestern meat eaters diet to a raw food diet and lost 40 pounds in my first month, and now I am at a 50 pound loss after three months.

Another good thing to keep the cravings away, especially the caffeine cravings, is Green Water. They have several types at most healthy stores (Whole Foods, etc.)

The VitaMix is freaking awesome. Worth the money.

be strong

heard it was awesome too..throw the veggies in the grinder and boom you have an awesome green drink without all that sugar and refined stuff

I still believe one should eat a little protein to support the muscles and other factors

maksym

Wow... it's very great to see that many people here use raw food diet.
And again I am wondering that WHY only few people can take responsibility
and just try this diet. I am always trying to give such message - "Hey.. you
had regular food diet ALL your LIFE! Just try for at least 8 weeks Raw Food
Diet and that's it. After that you will feel by yourself to go back or not". :-)
-Personally, I don't want even to go back.
Most terrible thing that in "normal" families, parents ... i will not afraid to
tell.. poison their children. Every single day parents give them such many
bad food for children.
That's why we switched to raw food diet so quickly, cause we want that
our baby will be healthy.
Funny stuff... couple days ago, we left our child at grandma's place.
Grandma tried to give her fried fish. And guest what? Our daughter denied
to eat that stuff!!! First big victory for us. :-)

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Vibrant Warrior

I have gone from obese to totally fit with a six pack as a result of replacing most of my food with raw foods. I had been a vegetarian for 16 years+. I have been living the vegan lifestyle (with the exception of breakfast for which I have porridge oats) for about a year. I had a waste size of about 48 inches and now it's down to a fit 30 inches. Highly recommend it to anyone.

I also hear that the health benefits are enormous including the possible prevention of cancer and other diseases. Great topic Maksym! Good on you to start this thread!

mtreid

I'm vegetarian and I've tried "raw" diets but can't last for longer than a month or so. I'm trying to build up to make it a lifestyle.

I've been following David Wolfe suggestions and found great value. Incredible energy and the need for less sleep are just 2 of my results.

One of his sites is: www.thebestdayever.com.

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lklein

I don't eat meat but I do eat some eggs and a little cheese.

Probably eat about 40% raw food. I have a salad every night with spinach and broccoli in it.

I do take B12 supplements since it may be harder for vegetarians to get all they need.

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Og Mandino

I'm lacto-ovo vegetarian myself.

I've heard about vegan, totally only consume vegetable. No meat. No eggs. No milk.
But raw food vegan... I've never heard of it before. ^^

Do you really mean you only consume raw food, without cook it? Without boil, fry, grill or steam it? Without any spice?

Just eat it like the way cow/sheep/rabbit eat?

broker12

I have heard of this but I not sure on the definition. What are the most common foods allowed and prohibited on this diet?

Loren Woirhaye

If you eat a raw diet and just use your teeth to cut the
food, you'll wear them down (the teeth) - so it's necessary
to have some equipment to do a whole raw fruits and vegetables
diet.

I have a VitaMix (Ebay for $100 or less) which is a very
heavy-duty and long-lasting blender. I've also had a few
different juicers - many raw foodies have up to 3 juicers,
plus the blender and various grinders and things.

You can also use a dehydrator to "boil down" foods,
which start out as glop, to make flatbread type things,
fruit leather and so forth. By keeping the temperature
of the dehydrator under 117 degrees you preserve
nutrients that are ruined by conventional cooking.

Few people sustain a 100% raw vegan diet. Gabriel
Cousens is the guy I've read the most material from,
and the one I respect the most too, and he personally
claims about a 95% raw diet, but completely vegan.

If you get very ill you might have difficulty with raw
foods, so it's important to always listen to your body
because cooked foods, while less nutritious, are easier
to digest and can help you heal when you are sick.

Raw foods too can help heal sickness, but there's a
balance to be achieved, so don't try to make the
transition to a raw food diet all on your own. Seek
out people in your area who are doing it and are in
touch with their bodies and not zealots who say the
only way to eat is raw.

People have seriously damaged their health going into
a raw vegan diet without discernment. So educate
yourself and test different things on YOUR body -
see how you feel and track your results over many months
and years. This way you will know what raw foods work
for you and in what seasons... and it's always good
not to be militant and say "I only eat raw food" because
that can be very stupid and wreck your health -
so be gentle and kind with yourself and make transitions
slowly and with grace.

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Alexa Smith

Are you on a vegan diet now, Loren? What's your source of Vitamin B12?

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rockstarinlife

Congrats brother!

I was first introduced to this from Tony Robbins and decided to give it a try. After the first 2 weeks I never looked back because I felt so amazing!

We have now been 99% Vegan for over 6 years. I say 99% because we will eat fish about 6 times a year or so. My family consists of myself, my wife Siri Shakti, Kayleen 8yrs, Mayleena 5yrs, and Bodhi 8 months.

We mainly followed the guide of Dr. Robert Young who wrote the PH Miracle. We were pretty strict with it for the first 3 years (70-80% water rich foods) and now we are about 50% water rich foods. We still drink his Green Drink by innerlight.

Benefits include: We never get sick, no doctor visits, our kids dont get sick, no allergies, no food comas.

People always ask me if I miss meat. I always tell them hell no because I used to be a bodybuilder and ate over 5lbs of meat a day and over 40 egg whites a day! But I always felt hungry and tired. Now I feel great and only feel hungry if I forget to eat for 8 hours.

More people need to Hug a Cow and Eat a Salad!

lklein

I use a Vit-B12 spray under my tonge. This way it should be absorbed easier.
I used to use a sublingal tablet and let it dissolve under my tonge.

The spray is easier and supposedly works better. They both bypass the digestive system. B-12 may not be absorbed well though the digestive system in all cases.

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Franco Mocke

Amen! Vegetarian is the way to go! I've been vegetarian most of my life, but I cannot seem to stick to the raw veggie diet, I keep going back to chocolates and junk food.

Any advice on how to suppress such cravings? And who is Dr. Robert Young?

Are you still a body builder while on the veggie diet? MANY people say vegetarians grow small and thin, what do you think?

rockstarinlife

Dr. Young is amazing! You gotta check out his stuff: pH Miracle Living

Tony Robbins based his whole health seminars around Roberts teachings. Its pretty cool to see your own healthy blood under a microscope compared to others blood who think they eat a healthy lifestyle. Their blood looks no different than those with cancer. Pretty amazing stuff.

I used to have my own training business when I was 250lbs and then got busy with life, new career, new family, so I stopped training. I am about to get back into it. But it is not hard to gain muscle eating this way. I did a little experiment a few years ago. I was around 165lbs and trained without adding any extra protein or no more than maybe 100 extra calories to my diet. So I wa probably eating around 1,000-1,400 calories a day. Now understand that I have been certified by the National Academy of Sports Medicine and Apex certified also. So we were taught that I would need at least 2,500-3,000 calories if I wanted to gain any muscle mass. Well, I gained about 25lbs of muscle in 45 days at this low caloric intake of water rich foods!

Bottom line: a calorie is not created equal. People always ask things like where do you get your protein. But you have to remember that this is what they have been trained to ask. Who do you think did that? Food pyramids, teachers, doctors, TV, etc. But ask yourself where does a cow get its protein? from eating other cows right? from drinking its milk? from protein shakes right? lol..... it gets it from the grass. So we are eating cows to get the nutrients that it got from the grass? Just cut out the middle man and get it from the source.

I probably opened a door to a huge debate ;-)

Franco Mocke

Interesting... I will go check his stuff out.

I have seen my own blood under a microscope before, and it seemed to be pretty healthy against your "average" person out there, so that convinced me that my lifestyle is the right one for me.

Yes you did indeed opened a door to a huge debate... Many people believe that our bodies don't have the functions to make amino acids, but I have seen people who only live off grass, you won't believe it. It all depends of what functions your body lost or still have.

In any case many seeds and plants have more protein per weight than meat. The only reason why people eat meat is because it "tastes" good according to them. I hate the smell or taste of meat so don't know where they all learned it! It's a shame humanity has to kill millions of animals each year to compliment their luxurious lifes

rockstarinlife

lol... if they only knew why it tastes good to them. They need to try some kosher meat. Meat that has not been tenderized, bleached, and other things ,I dont know if I can use that language in here? I will just say Uric acid. That is the flavor they like.

Loren Woirhaye

If there is any question of the muscle building potential of a
vegetarian diet, I refer you to Bill Pearl, 4 time Mr. Universe in
the 1960s and still going strong and still an advocate for
a vegetal diet.

And, no, Alexa, I'm not currently Vegan. I've been vegetarian
for about 15 years with stints of veganism and raw food.

B12 I get from light supplementation. When you don't eat meat
you need a lot less of it actually, and the phenomenon of
b12 deficiency in vegetarians has been blown out of proportion.

I don't take a lot of supplements. A lot of the supplement
stuff is hype. If you eat a whole foods diet you mostly don't
need 'em. People who eat crappy food and carry around
a lot of toxins lodged in fat cells often find supplements help
them feel better. Start flushing out the toxins and the need
for supplements, and stimulants, disappears.

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rockstarinlife

You can make anything taste like meat if you really want to. We use crushed almonds in our brown rice pasta dishes and it tastes like a combo of ground beef and Parmesan cheese.

We also do whole wheat and sometimes corn pizza's using either almond cheese or soy cheese. We sometimes even add a topping of tofurki which is like a spicy tofu type meat. We had a few parties where we used tofu taco meat and tofurki. We didnt tell anyone it was tofu and they all thought it was real meat. they said it was the best dishes they have ever tasted.

If you live in LA go to: real food daily or native foods

or north cali, go to cafe gratitude or herbivore

you will be amazed at the dishes you eat.

But be warned that if you order a raw dish called pizza or something, that its not gonna taste like pizza. I suggest you start with cooked vegan food first. Then try raw.

rockstarinlife

Here is a list of famous vegetarians and vegan I found from Famous Vegetarians - Vegan Celebrities - by HappyCow

Abdul Kalam Dr., President of India and Space Scientist - info
Abdullah Öcalan, Kurdish militant leader - info
Abraham Lincoln, former President of the United States - info
AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of ISKCON/Hare Krishna - info
Adam Ant, musician - info
Adam Carson, drummer of AFI - info
Adam Russell, bassist of Story of the Year, vegan - info
Adriana Karembeu, model - info
Adriano Celentano, singer - info
Ahmet Zappa, musician and actor - info
Alan Donohue, singer of British rock band The Rakes, vegan - info
Alan Ford, actor, British - info
Alan Park, comedian, Canadian TV Personality, vegan - info
Alanis Morissette, singer, vegan - info
Albert Einstein, renowned scientist - info
Albert Schweitzer, theologian, philosopher, and physician - info
Alexandra Paul, actress and environmental activist - info
Alex Greenwald, actor, musician, vegan - info
Alice Walker, poet and writer - info
Alicia Silverstone, actress, vegan - info
Alison Lohman, actress - info
Allen Ginsberg, poet - info
Ally Sheedy, actress - info
Alyssa Milano, actress, vegan - info
Amber Benson, actress - info
Amber Valetta, model and actress - info
Amitabh Bachchan, Indian celebrity superstar - info
Amy Ray, musician from Indigo Girls - info
Andre Tonelli, musician and instrumental guitarist, vegan - info
Andre 3000 Benjamin, musician from OutKast, vegan - info
Andrew G, actor, vegan - info
Andrew (Whitey) White, musician and guitarist of Kaiser Chiefs - info
Andy Dick, comedian and actor - info
Andy Hurley, musician and drummer of Fall Out Boy, vegan - info
Andy Serkis, actor - info
Angela Bassett, actress - info
Angie Everhart, model and actress - info
Anna Paquin, actress and Oscar winner of The Piano - info
Annalise Braakensiek, model - info
Anne Hathaway, actress - info
Anoushka Shankar, musician and sitar virtuoso, vegan - info
Antoni Gaudí, architect - info
Anthony Grayling, writer and columnist - info
Anthony Kiedis, singer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, vegan - info
Anthony Perkins, actor - info
Anthony Rapp, actor, vegan - info
Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, actor (fictional) of Simpsons, vegan - info
Ariana Huffington, writer and polictical activist - info
Aristotle, Greek philosopher - info
Ashley Judd, actress - info
Avril Lavigne, singer and musician - info
Axella Johannesson, folk musician - info
Barbara Bouchet, actress - info
Barry White, musician, vegan - info
Beatrice Wood, artist - info
Belinda Carlisle, singer of the Go-Go's - info
Benjamin Spock, M.D., pediatrician, vegan - info
Benjamin Zephaniah, performance poet and author, vegan - info
Benji Madden, musician and guitarist of Good Charlotte - info
Berkeley Breathed, cartoonist - info
Bernadette Peters, actress - info
Bif Naked, punk rocker, vegan - info
Bill Pearl, bodybuilder - info
Bill Walton, NBA All-Star basketball player - info
Billie Jean King, tennis player - info
Billie Joe Armstrong, musician and singer of Greenday - info
Billy Idol, musician - info
Billy Martin, rock musician of Good Charlotte - info
Billy West, voice actor, vegan - info
Bob Barker, US TV show host - info
Bobby Rock, musician and drummer - info
Bobcat Goldthwait, comedian actor - info
Bonnie Raitt, musician and singer - info
Boy George, singer - info
Brad Pitt, actor - info
Brandon Barnes, musician of Rise Against - info
Brandon Boyd, musician of rock band Incubus - info
Brandy, R&B artist and singer - info
Brendon Urie, lead singer of Panic! at the Disco - info
Brian Bell, musician of Weezer, vegan - info
Brian Fair, singer of Shadows Fall - info
Brian Greene, theoretical physicist, vegan - info
Brian May, musician ex-Queen - info
Brigitte Bardot, French actress - info
Brooke Shields, actress - info
Bryan Adams, singer and songwriter, vegan - info
Bryce Dallas Howard, actress - info
Buddha, Indian Saint and Spiritual Master - info
Candice Bergen, actress - info
Captain Sensible, musician of The Damned - info
Carmen Miranda, Brazilian bombshell - info
Carole Bouquet, French actress - info
Carrie Underwood, country singer - info
Carrie Anne Moss, actress in Matrix trilogy, vegan - info
Casey Affleck, actor, vegan - info
Casey Kasem, US radio host, vegan - info
Catherine Spaak, actress - info
Cathy Guisewaite, writer of the comic CATHY - info
Cedric Bixler-Zavala, singer of The Mars Volta, vegan - info
Cesar Chavez, United Farm Workers union organizer - info
Chantal Coutier, makeup artist - info
Charles Darwin, renowned scientist - info
Charlie Heather, musician and drummer of Levellers - info
Charlie Watts, musician and drummer of Rolling Stones - info
Charlotte Bronte, novelist - info
Charlotte Laws, author, actress - info
Charlotte Ross, actress - info
Chelsea Clinton, daughter of Bill Clinton and Hilary Clinton - info
Chia Collins, founder and COO of Lightlife Foods vegetarian products - info
Chris Evans, actor from Cellular and Fantastic Four - info
Chris Evert, American tennis legend - info
Chris Head, musician and guitarist of Anti-Flag - info
Chris Martin, lead singer and musician of Coldplay - info
Chris No2, musician and bassist of Anti-Flag - info
Chris Pontius, actor on MTV - info
Chris Walla, guitarist of Death Cab for Cutie - info
Chrissie Hynde, rock singer, vegan - info
Christian Bale, actor - info
Christie Brinkley, model - info
Christina Applegate, actress - info
Christopher Amott, musician of Arch Enemy - info
Christopher Hills Dr., doctor who popularized microalgaes - info
Christy Turlington, supermodel - info
Cicely Tyson, actress - info
Cillian Murphy, Irish actor - info
Cindy Jackson, cosmetic surgery pioneer and author - info
Claudia Cardinale, Italian film star - info
Claudia Schiffer, supermodel - info
Clint Walker, actor - info
Coretta Scott King, activist and wife of Martin Luther King Jr., vegan - info
Corey Feldman, actor - info
Crispian Mills, rock musician - info
Dalip Singh Rana, aka "Great Khali", professional Indian wrestler - info
Daman Albarn, singer for Blur - info
Dan Piraro, cartoonist, vegan - info
Dana Daurey, actress - info
Daniel Johns, musician of Silverchair, vegan - info
Daniel Kessler, musician and guitarist of Interpol - info
Daniel Negreanu, professional poker player, vegan - info
Daniela Sea, musician and actor, vegan - info
Danny Garcia, professional skateboarder - info
Danny Nova, singer and songwriter, vegan - info
Darren Boyd, actor, vegan - info
Dario Argento, writer, vegan - info
Daryl Hannah, actress and environmental activist, vegan - info
Dave Gorman, Comedian - info
Davey Havok, singer of AFI, vegan - info
David Johansenn, singer - info
Dean Ornish MD, doctor and author of The Life Choice Diet - info
Deepak Chopra, author and doctor - info
Dennis Kucinich, politician, vegan - info
Dennis Weaver, TV actor - info
Diane Keaton, actress - info
Diane Warren, songwriter - info
Dick Gregory, comedian and civil rights activist - info
Dick Lucas, musician of Subhumans - info
Diogenes, Greek philosopher - info
Dirk Bach, German actor and comedian - info
Dizzie Gillespie, famed jazz musician - info
Doctah B Sirius, music producer and natural health researcher - info
Doris Day, actress - info
Dustin Hoffman, actor - info
Dyan Canyon, actress - info
Ed Asner, actor and rights activist - info
Ed Templeton, professional skateboarder, vegan - info
Eddie Jackson, musician of Queensryche - info
Eddie Lama, film maker - info
Eddie Vedder, singer and songwriter of Pearl Jam - info
Edward Furlong, actor - info
Edwin Moses, athlete - info
Elijah Wood, actor, vegan - info
Elizabeth Berkley, actress - info
Ellen Degeneres, TV personality, vegan - info
Elvira Mistress of the Dark, actress - info
Emily Deschanel, actress, vegan - info
Emilie Autumn, musician, vegan - info
Emily Dickinson, writer and poet - info
Emmylou Harris, singer - info
Epicurus, Greek philosopher - info
Eric Johnson, guitarist - info
Eric Roberts, actor, vegan - info
Eric Stoltz, actor - info
Erykah Badu, R&B singer, vegan - info
Fat Mike, musician from NOFX - info
Fiona Apple, singer and songwriter, vegan - info
Fiona Oakes, athlete, ex-Olympian, vegan - info
Forest Whitaker, actor - info
Forrest Kline, vocalist and guitarist for Hellogoodbye, vegan - info
Francis Lalanne, French singer - info
Frank Iero, musician of My Chemical Romance - info
Frank Marino, entertainer and drag queen - info
Franz Kafka, Jewish writer - info
Fred Mascherino, musician of Taking Back Sunday, vegan - info
Fred Schneider, musician of B-52's - info
Gabe Saporta, singer and lyricist of Cobra Starship, vegan - info
Gabrielle Miller, actress, vegan - info
Gandhi, Hindu spiritual leader - info
Gavin Rossdale, singer of BUSH - info
Geoff Rickly, singer of Thursday - info
Geoff Rowley, professional skateboarder, vegan - info
Geoffe Tate, singer of Queensryche - info
George Harrison, musician of the Beatles - info
George Bernard Shaw, writer - info
Georges Laraque, NHL player, vegan - info
Gianni Morandi, Italian musician - info
Gillian Anderson, actress - info
Gina Lee Nolin, actress - info
Ginnifer Goodwin, actress, vegan - info
Gloria Swanson, actress - info
Grace Slick, singer and songwriter, vegan - info
Grant Morrison, Scottish comic book writer - info
Greg Cipes, actor and musician, vegan - info
Greg German, actor - info
Gregory Smith, Child Prodigy - info
Gustave Flaubert, French novelist - info
H.G. Wells, English writer - info
Harriet Beecher Stowe, writer - info
Hayden Panettiere, actress - info
Hayley Mills, actress - info
Heather Mills, model, celebrity, and activist, vegan - info
Heather McAdams, author, cartoonist - info
Heather Small, singer, vegan - info
Helen and Scott Nearing, authors of The Good Life - info
Henry David Thoreau, poet and writer - info
Howard Lyman, former cattle rancher turned activist and author , vegan - info
Huey Freeman, fictional cartoon character, vegan - info
Hunter Burgan, musician and bassist of AFI, vegan - info
Ian MacKaye, musician, vegan - info
Ian McKellan, British actor from Lord of the Rings - info
Immanuel Kant, philosopher - info
India Arie, singer and songwriter - info
Ingrid Newkirk, animal rights activist, vegan - info
Ira Glass, NPR's This American Life - info
Isa Chandra Moskowitz, punk rocker and vegan cookbook author , vegan - info
Isaac Bashevis Singer, Nobel Prize winner - info
Issa, musician from Good Clean Fun - info
Jack Johnson, singer - info
Jade Puget, guitarist of AFI - info
James Cromwell, actor and animal rights advocate, vegan - info
Jamie Kennedy, comedian and actor - info
Jamie Lee Curtis, actress - info
Jane Goodall, primatologist, educator, and animal rights advocate - info
Jane Wiedlin, musician of the Go-Go's - info
Jared Leto, actor and singer of 30 Seconds to Mars - info
Jason Mraz, singer, vegan - info
Jay Kordich, aka the Juiceman raw foodist - info
JD Fortune, singer of INXS - info
JD Salinger, American novelist - info
Jean-Jacques Rousseau, philosopher - info
Jeff Beck, guitarist - info
Jenna Jameson, porn actress - info
Jenny Lewis, singer and composer for Rilo Kiley - info
Jenny Seagrove, actress - info
Jeph Howard, musician and bassist for The Used - info
Jeremy Cunningham, musician and bassist of Levellers - info
Jesse Malin, rock musician - info
Jesus Christ, Christian saint and mystic - info
Jiddu Krishnamurti, spiritual teacher Eastern Indian - info
Joan Armatrading, singer - info
Jim James, singer - info
Jim Carrey, actor, stand-up comedian - info
Joan Baez, American folk singer - info
Joan Jett, punk rock musician and singer, vegan - info
Joanne Rose, actor, vegan - info
Joaquin Phoenix, actor, vegan - info
Joe Principe, musician of Rise Against - info
Joel, musician of Good Charlotte - info
John Abraham, actor Bollywood - info
John Cleese, British actor and comedian of Monty Python - info
John Maxwell Coetzee, author/novelist - info
John Feldmann, musician of Goldfinger, vegan - info
John Lennon, Beatles singer and songwriter - info
John McDougall Dr., physician and author - info
John Melton, writer and politician - info
John Norris, MTV personality - info
John Peel, British DJ, vegan - info
John Robbins, activist and author, vegan - info
John Robb, musician and actor, vegan - info
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rockstarinlife

Great resources and videos:

Earthlings Movie: Narrated by Joaquin Phoenix from Gladiator. goes into graphic detail on food industry, circuses, fur, etc.
Earthlings


Very graphic and shows you how your meat is really prepared. Narrated by Alex Baldwin: GoVeg.com // Cruelty to Animals: Mechanized Madness

My kids love this cartoon: The Meatrix Films

JodyRossDeane

Hey Rawarriors!

Great to hear people are conscious and lovin' it.

I have been mostly veggie for 20 years, and sometimes vegan, and more recently quite raw. I love gourmet raw food. It's the best!

I am a smoothie and superfood lover too!

Goji, cacao, carob, pollen and avocado are my staples.

Keep up the raw spirit.

J

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davidjames42973

Interesting topic. I am a carnivore myself, but enjoy reading things like this.

Somebody posted that they go on junk food kicks and was asking how to avoid them? Try getting some protein in your blood stream. You can easily do this with protein shakes. The cravings for junk food will most likely go away.

Gorilla Writer

Awesome thread. I went 14 days completely raw and felt amazing. I have an auto immune disease and it helped quite abit. I switched back to 70%+ raw diet...the rest being vegan and my health is not as good as when I was fully raw, but I am finding it hard to go fully raw again. I can do mostly raw + vegan no problem, but I find my self being disappointed in my self that I am not fully raw.

In general I know I should be proud of my self as I was meat eater just about 2 months ago...after 14 days raw, going vegan was super easy...Hopefully I'll try to go raw again for another 14 days or a month this time.

Reinventing the wheel...

Loren Woirhaye

It's good to know you're open-minded. Most people aren't - which is
why they cling to their habits and end up broke and sick.

I don't know about consuming protein as a cure for junk food
cravings. Are nuts junk food? Depends on whether they are
salted I reckon - and if you really get into it nuts should be
got in the shell and cracked up when you are going to eat them...
plus stored in the freezer because they go rancid.

Anyway, from my pot-smoking days I learned that "the munchies"
is really an oxygen issue. Breathe more air and the munchies,
which are typically associated with junk food, which tends to
be carb and sugar-loaded, go away.

I've discovered an esoteric pattern-interrupt in my own
nervous system that helps me supress salivation and
munchies brought on by smelling food I don't want to eat.

If you're diabetic or something that's another issue.

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Chris Faraday

Vegan staples like wheat, soy, corn & yeast are highly controversial & inflammatory
On the other hand - strict raw foodist often suffer from a failure to thrive unless they balance things just right (very rare) and have a strong gut. (blood type O's)
To much fat, too much sugar, too much fat & sugar.

I am now back on oat groats, soaked & sprouted or low heat cooked and feeling strong.

I'm mostly vegan (occasional salmon), mostly raw, blend all the time, use low heat, seaweeds, aloe & superfoods. But, I don't juice, fast or cleanse at all. This is my next evolution. Allays open / allways learning.

Robert Young is a legend. His "phour salts" should be in every home.
Just buy it, but only use 1/4 of what they recommend.

David Wolfe however, takes it to another level.
mushrooms are the most profound immune builders on the planet. Reishi, maitake, ****ake, lions mane. His big thing.

Get into superfoods, but don't break the bank. Some are miraculous, some are overhyped, overpriced & overated, some are useless and every manufacturer is different check out www ultimate superfoods com www sun star organics com

I suggest learning about (HAM) Hydration, alkalinity & minerals to start.
We are the minority, but you saw the list of stars - they have the best information.
We all want to look good, stay young and be strong.

Mothers are open to this information as it effects their children.
and -
Friends don't let friends microwave baby food : )

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Not vegan, vegetarian since I was 3 though.

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maksym

Great to see that my thread is alive and many warrios are joining in this discussion.
Very soon will be 2 years how my family is on raw food diet. And you know... we don't want to coping back to regular food. Really, we like our style. A lot!!!

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nturgeon

I recently purchased a book called The Thrive Diet by Brendan Brazier. He is a Ironman Triathlete and eats a 100% plant-based diet. He talks about how some foods create nutritional stress and other foods can eliminate it. It's very interesting so far and I will try eating this way once I'm done reading the book. I am a very active girl and was concerned about lack of protein, etc but his book has cleared things up for me. I look forward to trying this out. It's an expensive way to eat but I'd rather spend my money on healthy foods vs pharmacies, hospitals and doctor's offices!

maksym

GREAT STORY!!! Sorry for my late response to it, brother. I liked so much your end when you mentioned that you was a bodybuilder. :-)

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maksym

I will disagree here about that raw food is expensive one. Yes... it will be a little bit at the beginning. But then... trust me... I am eating right now nearly 3-4 times less then it was before.
Also... look how much is meat. Expensive right? For example, here it is nearly 7-10usd per kg. For that amount of money, I can buy 5-8 kg of bananas, or 20-30kg of apples, or even in winter time - 4-6kg of tomatoes.

And in summer time... oh... it is so cheap!!!

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.X.

I've been on and off raw for about 5
years now.

My longest 100% stretch was 9 months -
(well, probably 99.5% raw with the
occasional bad decision).

My wife and I have experimented with
probably a dozen diets, mainly for
mental clarity and energy benefits
and it's raw hands-down.

More recently I tried Dr. Graham's
80-10-10 and that was even a
quantum leap in the raw realm - he
doesn't believe in fatty raw foods
like avacado and nuts, or anything
dehydrated and I have to say after
a week I could really feel how those
foods bogged me down.

Should be noted on that diet I was
also working out with a fitness
trainer and lost 12lbs of fat and
gained 6 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks,
(would love to keep that up for
about 30 weeks) so the notion that
the diet lacks enough protein to
prevent withering away should be
dispelled.

The past year we've been more off
than on and I've gained 35 pounds -
weight *gain* has usually been an
issue for me as I was usually always
trying to gain weight when I was
younger.

So, looking forward to getting back
on track in the New Year. Have been
working out hard, but without good
diet not seeing / feeling the results
I want and know are possible.

Oh, our kids have been on raw too -
our oldest, who's more inclined to it,
was once served fries (out with
Grandma and Grandpa) with kale on
it for decoration - she ate the kale
and passed on the fries.

Our middle one won't eat much of
anything that isn't certifiably bad
little kid food (mac and cheese, hot
dogs, etc) and our youngest goes
for juices.

We've found, generally, the kids
go for green smoothies - so long as
they're not green (just add some
variety of berries).

I get a kick out of how offended
people are by this diet, because
as hard as it is to stick with, there
is no denying the benefits for
anyone with the willingness to
try it without preconceived ideas.

X

PS - Generally I believe in trying
things because there's so much BAD
information floated around that then
mutates into something even worse.

Try something, see how you feel,
notice how the world reacts to it (if
they react badly you're probably on
the right track).

Loren Woirhaye

Unless you're eating subsidized food (McDonald's meat prices
are subsidized to keep poor families buying there because
it's cheaper than buying vegetables - film: "Food, Inc.") then
the truth is that eating meat 1 or more times per day, which
is a common S.A.D. (standard American diet) habit, is
more costly than eating vegetables.

In a non-subsidized meat-industry flesh foods will always
cost more than vegetal foods.

I've been a vegetarian for 15 years. I am trim, energetic,
sharp-witted, physically strong for my weight, and I can
hold my liquor.

I also don't eat a lot of food most of the time. Occasionally,
when my body wants it, I'll go on binges and eat a lot of
calories... so while I function often on less food than some
people, I can put it away when I need to.

In my experience, the more you stick to whole foods in their
purest form the more easily you'll know when to stop eating.
At my inlaw's over the holidays this year I had a lot of food
available... even though they eat flesh there was plenty of
vegetables.... even so, I was crazy for nuts most of the time
I was there. My body wanted nuts, so I was eating them.
Normally eating a lot of nuts is asking for difficulties, because
they are a little challenging to digest, but in this case I went
whole-hog with no problems. After a couple of days the nut-
cravings abated.


Ben Franklin famously went vegetarian to save money - he
figured-out how much eating meat was costing him as a youth
and since he was familiar with the idea and literary evidence
of high-functioning vegetarians, he adopted the practice
himself.

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runfast

Are there any accurate studies that prove that "vegans" live longer, look healthier, and never get any disease?
Most of the vegetarians that I know personally don't look healthier (kinda pale) plus they are weaker (they can't keep up with me when it comes to going out and cutting a pickup load of firewood or shingle a steep roof).
I'm not against this type of diet but I'm not ready to give up my milk and meat till I personally know a vegetarian that can outdo a country woodsman or a traditional roofer.

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nturgeon

Yes, I meant in the beginning the cost will be higher than normal as he uses natural ingredients in his recipes. These ingredients are harder to find and more expensive where I am. Once I purchase the "base" ingredients, my grocery bill will normalize

Loren Woirhaye

You've already decided we're a bunch of weaklings. Studies
show vegetarian athletes have superior endurance and
recover from injuries faster. I concur from personal experience
both eating a meat diet (until 23) and a vegetal diet afterwards.
Aside from a little gray hair I feel and look better than ever.

"Dave Scott, of Davis, California is a scholar-athlete who is well acquainted with the scientific literature on diet and health. He is also universally recognized as the greatest triathlete in the world. He has won Hawaii's legendary Ironman Triathlon a record four times, including three years in a row, while no one else has ever won it more than once. In three consecutive years, Dave has broken his own world's record for the event, which consists, in succession, of a 2.4 mile ocean swim, a 112 mile cycle, and then a 26.2 mile run. Dave's college major was exercise physiology, and he says he keeps up on the latest developments in the field by reading "an incredible amount" of books and journals. He calls the idea that people, and especially athletes, need animal protein a "ridiculous fallacy." There are many people who consider Dave Scott the fittest man who ever lived. Dave Scott is a vegetarian."

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.X.

I think a distinction needs to be made between
vegetarian and raw foodist - they are not the
same thing.

The underlying premise of a raw diet is that
cooking A) destroys nutrients, B) ruins the
best source of filtered water you can get
and C) fundamentally changes the chemical
composition of food.

The point being you cannot compare the
health of a vegetarian eating cooked food to
a raw foodist - it's not the same thing.

Please be clear I'm not saying anything
against vegetarians or vegans. However I
have a good friend (not the only example
I can offer) who's vegetarian and she was
100lbs overweight. Point being I've known
many vegetarians who weren't the vision
of optimal health - and others who were.

Storm Talifero is a good example of someone who's
raw and ultra fit - I've met him personally and
although he's in his 60s, the dude looks closer
to 40.

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I'd also add that what most people consider
"normal size" is really "bloated size". A little
detox of the body changes how a human looks.

I can also personally testify that when I am
100% raw I don't get sick - ever.

BTW, it's not necessary to give up meat
or milk - both can be consumed raw (I don't
eat raw meat but have known people who
do). Since milk is sterile with proper human
handling it shouldn't be a problem - it's
poor human handling (and longer shelf life)
that necessitates pasteurization .

X

Neil V

runfast

I don't know if a vegan can outdo and country woodsman or traditional roofer, but i am following the vegan diet though not hundred 100% there yet and i can tell you this

1. i have more mental energy now than i ever did. I can concentrate and achive more more working on my internet busiess rather than pyhsical for much longer spurts and have been more productive than ever

2. I can run longer than i ever did. I could never break the 5 mile barrier but now i can easily get up to 10 miles

3. My flexibility has improved and i can hit the punching bag harder and longer than i could previoulsy.

But that does not mean you should change to vegan.

I just think it is facinating that once i began to explore this route, a whole new world of mental and physical opportunities opened up that i never thought was possible

runfast

No, I didn't mean to sound negative towards vegans. Most of the ones I know tend to have the same mindset. Avoid vaccinations, drink only goat milk, homeschool, take lots of vitamins but never go to the doctor, and only eat vegetables.

I believe that your mind sets your destiny. You can go a long ways physically and mentally regardless of your diet.

Sorry about sterotyping...

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Loren Woirhaye

There's a difference between zealotry, informed or not,
and trying things out for yourself - testing and learning
and assessing what your results are and how you feel.

I don't consider myself a raw food person because I
don't maintain that diet for more than a periodic few
months at a time. I live in a colder climate now and
research and personal testing has shown that for me,
in this climate, a 90% or more raw food diet would be
difficult to maintain. I Hawaii however I would probably
have no problem doing it.

All the things about childhood vaccinations and so forth
are representative of the kind of zealotry that some
people who are also vegan in diet engage in. Whether
or not you go to a western doctor, vaccinate your kids,
or grow your own food or avoid the sun are decisions
many vegan people think about, but the choices made
in these areas are not the same as the choice not to
eat animal flesh or animal products.

The most well-rounded book on the subject (which
addresses the zealotry problem) is "Healing with Whole
Foods" by Paul Pitchford. He advocates balance - and
while he is a vegan he is not raw and he doesn't tell
others to be vegan - he informs what the issues are
and acknowledges that for many health problems, animal
products are a useful component to the healing process.

Once you get most of the animal products out of your
diet, I'll bet you see significant improvements in the
way you feel on a day-to-day basis: clear breathing,
clear mind, less fatigue, quicker recovery from injuries,
and less general inflammation are all benefits of
a meat-free diet I have observed in myself.

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.X.

re: zealotry. I agree with Loren and
might add that *most* people accept
conventional wisdom without much
thought or personal trial. That's OK,
it's just a matter of what seems
important at any point in time.

Personally, it's heartbreaking to see
a family suffer with a child, go into
debt trying to help them medically,
experience side effect after side
effect as a result when the only thing
that needs to be done 99% of the
time is to love the child and clean
up their diet.

Many of us homeschooling, anti-
vaccination, raw foodist whatevers
come across as zealots because
we've had the experience of being
here and of being there and we
*know* the difference.

I identify with the Matrix in that
*knowing* the truth makes it hard
to plug in to the system again.

And when I say *knowing* I'm not
talking about an intellectual thing
where I've read a few books and
they make sense so I buy in - by
*knowing* I mean I have experienced
both sides and one side is so powerfully
life changing that even when I'm not
adhering to what I *know* is right,
I cannot deny what is true and right.

Believe me, I live in Sedona Arizona
which is the mecca for people looking
for "the truth", who are willing to put
their life at risk following cult gurus
spewing all manner of foolishness -
but on occasion I try something new,
something makes sense, and it really
does have some value.

I suppose I've wised up to the
point that I listen less to what people
have to say and pay more attention
to who actually looks happy and
healthy. There are almost always
common denominators shared by
those people - so don't take my word,
or anyone else's for it. Look for those
people and get to know what they're
about - then try it on to see how it
fits you.

All the best to you - X

maksym

Totally agree on that!!! There is a HUGE difference on that. That's why I like my path - raw food

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