acrasial

"I feel so alone".


David Foster Wallace:
“ The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square.


And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows.


Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant.


The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!’, can understand the jump.


Not really. You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling. ”



Forgive me, I lied, I feel worse than that. How selfish of me.



OH yeh, and the guy who wrote that actually DID commit suicide...in 2008, and battled depression for over 20 years. NO JOKE...20 damn years!

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Talking to someone about depression and asking them how to deal with it, they told me this:

"I battle depression constantly, everyday. It doesn't go away. It's a life long thing."

So basically:

"You just DEAL with it"


So, naturally, I asked them if they have ever thought of suicide, to which they responded:

"Not going to answer that"


You bet they didn't answer it either, and probably never will....I guess because what's the point, it's the lowest point a human can be at, I would gather, so maybe no need to reveal such a weakness in their world.


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So what do you think? You just deal with it, and this thing never REALLY goes away? (depression, suicidal thoughts, loneliness....)


Is that life? That's stinky. I refuse to believe it, yet I think it's true, so I'm just lying to myself.

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ryanman

Depression is a form of prolonged sadness. When you remain sad for a long period of time and do not experience any joy in the activities which normally used to give you joy...You might be depressed.

There is only one magical way to get rid of depression in a second...And that is-

DO SOMETHING GOOD/HELPFUL FOR A PERSON WHO TRULY NEEDS IT.

The down feeling will vanish in seconds.

beccap

Coming from a family of depressed people I can tell you some of it is normal. Sometimes if we do nothing about it , the depression takes over life. Soon it becomes normal to feel that way. The best thing to do is turn the dark into light. Open the curtains let the light in. Go outside- take a walk. Do something , anything but move. Your mind needs stimulation. If the feeling is still there pick up the phone and call for help. Talk to a friend, talk to a doctor, call a hotline. Do not give up! Hell call me -do something to help yourself !

mobiusman

It's true. Depression can be very prevalent in our society.
I've been watching developments on this subject for some time. I notice that whenever someone seeks help it most always comes in the form of drugs or talk.

I can understand drugs for severe cases but more talk sounds pretty lame given the scope of this feeling we call depression.

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mattlloyd

I do feel depressed sometimes. But every time I feel that way, I try to talk to someone and tell the person about. It helps. Also, when I‘m lonely I go out and surround myself with friends. Do try it. And you need to look at the bottom of your depression: why you feel that way. Seek help.

Kay King

Everyone feels depressed at times, or sad or lonely. That's part of living.

However, that is a totally different animial from the disease named "depression". The disease isn't something you can cure or control without medication or an effective therapy. The therapy isn't "talk" - it's learning to use cognitive methods to work your way out of a depressive episode.

As for depression as an emotional "mood" - we probably suffer it more in this country than other societies do - simply because we are so focused on ourselves and what we want, need, deserve.

kay

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highrider21

I'm pretty sure I have depression. That guys description of what it feels like to want to commit suicide is very accurate, I have felt like that I few times but never had the guts to follow through. I don't think clinical depression just goes away, you need to do something about it. See a therapist, or get some type of medication, or at least buy a self help book. Here is a really good website on how to deal with depression: Depression Help Resouces - Depression Treatment Free Online Resources

acrasial

Someone JUST told me that no one understands what I wrote in here, and said that everyone is responding to me, but doesn't understand what i said....they also said that THEY didn't get what i said either.



That person is my mentor.


FML.




P.S.


I don't want to deal with "depression". I want it to end, or I will end.

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So true...

Kay King

Get real - if you are just "down" you'll get over it.

If your symptions are from the disease named "depression", you may need help getting over it. It's not a mood, it's an illness.

Clearly, many posting here don't know the difference between the two.

Acrasail - I have no idea what you're getting at.

"I would gather" means nothing. Those suffering from depression withdraw and they aren't going to tell you how they feel, or their thoughts, etc unless you are a close and trusted friend....and they might not tell you then. Clinical depression is not a weakness- it's an illness.

When you are in a depressive episode it feels like it will never go away - but it does. Not everyone has the same symptoms or the most serious symptoms and it's not something you can explain without well-meaning, and uninformed, people telling you to "cheer up".

So is there a point?

kay

EDIT: Rereading the hard-to-read text you quoted in the OP - that refers to "psychotic depression" - which is a mental illness that adds hallucinations, persecution, etc to a second illness, depression. So, really, what is the point?

Jonathan 2.0

I'm sorry to hear about your condition Acrasial. Remember, if you're going through hell, keep going.

I'm going to suggest something that, on the surface, may seem relatively unproductive. However, I promise you this is something I've personally used to help conquer mental innless and it most definitely does work. Actually, at this moment in time, this is the most valuable information I can share with you. So please don't be fooled by its' simplicity as it's very effective in practice.

I want you to be open to the possibility that your illness is something positive. Something good, not bad. Something that you'll eventually look back on say "I'm glad that happened, because __________________." (If you can't think of anything right now, that's OK, because I'm going to give you a hand.)

Here are 3 of the most important things that I, personally, have experienced because of mental illness.

1) Becoming emotionally and mentally stronger
2) Being more appreciative and grateful
3) Rejuvenating my relationship with God
4) Strengthening my Family relationships
5) Being more kind and humble

Now it's your turn. All you have to do is write down the following quotation.

"Every adversity, every failure, and every heartache carries with it the seed of an equivalent or greater benefit."~~Napoleon Hill, Think & Grow Rich

Then, as they come to you, write down any and all of your seeds of equivalent or greater benefit. Start with what's most important to you.

(If you're having trouble coming up with them give it time. Sometimes you have to feed and nurture your seeds before they bloom ...)

I recommend my personal development students to write down our quotation on 2 cards and keep one in their purse or wallet and the other one where they'll see it every night and every morning. Then, to let the benefits come to the surface of their consciousness, and to write them down.

So that's something you can do right now. And, if you would ever like more advice or have any questions then feel free to contact me any time. Oh and here's something else that I think you'll definitely like.

a place called zero
(It's about a man in a similar situation as yourself.)

Jonathan 2.0

John M Kane

Acrasial,
For me...I KNOW there will be another day tomorrow so, I CAN handle today no matter how difficult because I will have one more chance to have a better day tomorrow.
I might have to just get through one more hour or just 10 more minutes to relax through it all, for like the sun always will rise again, tomorrow will come again.
Unless one experiences the Darkness they can't really know of it.
AND they care for you so, listen up to your friends here.

Do SOMETHING anything to stay active.
Sitting around idle give our minds too much time to mess with us.

For me certain foods activate/increase issues.
Like staying clear of artificial sweeteners,garbage junk foods,etc
Eating more naturally helps.less packaged processed crap
Wheat is not good for me and also corn stuff like chips

I've said it before here and will offer it up again, research Russian 'Cold Water therapy'
It will shock you into a 'neutral' state and give you time to think clearer.
Some claim health benefits too.
I just know, for me, it works, and even better in winter when it is Really cold.
It's fun too, wondering about the neighbors, thinking about "what is with that nut next door"?
rent some comedies, search on Youtube for a giggle or two.
here;s a link to give you an idea the Cold Water deal.
Cold Water Therapy
It is not painful in any way, just cold
I've easily done in in winter of around zero degrees.
You'll find doing this will eliminate any poor feelings at least for a while. then plan something different, find and do something you're passionate about. Maybe sing along with a tune.
Look I am no doctor so, investigate on your own OK?Not prescribing, This has just helped me.
It is done 2x a day and it is a good training for building determination/motivation.
In fact I normally don't need it in summer so, with today's first snow of the season, it is time to clean out my bucket and get at it again!

John

You have great offers of help here,heed some and find what is best for YOU.