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Old 03-08-2010, 08:42 AM   #51
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I'm not talking about specific areas but rather life as a whole. I'm talking about overall harmony in life. Overall Balance and Harmony is required to live a happy and fulfilling life. That is my generalization and nothings cut and dry...just the underlying process. Look at chemistry. Unbalanced charged atoms look for balance. It's a core principle in our existence and balance and harmony are the same exact thing

It starts inside of us not outside.
Materialistic possession is only an effect of true success not the cause of it.
I agree that balance and harmony are the ideal. But I doubt that few people--if any--are in that state 100% of the time.

I'd even argue that maybe a select few are in that state 60% of the time.

The more realistic picture is successful people are those who make the choice to be disciplined and focused about what they want in life regardless of whether they're feeling harmonious or not.

And...what they want in life may be materialistic, artistic, spiritual or whatever...the same principle applies.

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Oh my! Look who has just jumped on board the alleged "law" of attraction scam...errr... truth:



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I agree that balance and harmony are the ideal. But I doubt that few people--if any--are in that state 100% of the time.

I'd even argue that maybe a select few are in that state 60% of the time.

The more realistic picture is successful people are those who make the choice to be disciplined and focused about what they want in life regardless of whether they're feeling harmonious or not.

And...what they want in life may be materialistic, artistic, spiritual or whatever...the same principle applies.

I entirely get what your saying and I completely agree. No one's in complete harmony 40% of the time. It just won't work with our society. However, the best are in a very tight cycle(the strive for balance produces cycles which is why they appear everywhere)

And if that's your illusion stick to it. We're going to agree to disagree.

But personally, my realistic picture of a successful life is this: I want to live it in love(which turns out to be harmony. I would put my life on this one. I even have acceptance from the most intelligent person(girl...and very cute) I've ever talked to.). Nothing more and nothing less. I just want to live my life and experience it to it's fullest...in order to do that I have to take into account every aspect of my life....including materialistic possession.

I mean everyone is striving for happiness...so why not zoom out a little bit and ASK YOURSELF what will truly make me happy in life? What is my next step? If you ask yourself the right questions, you'll find your answer. It might take a while sometimes but hey, some things worth having take a while to develop. I've seen asking questions in getting rid of limiting beliefs and behavioral modeling(aka creating inner harmony within you minds and personality.)

AKA our Inner Gennie lol....asking yourself questions is one of 2 keys in spiritual enlightenment...see! LOA isn't soo bad. Whether it's fairy tale or not...asking questions is invaluable in life whether or not you like it...

The question is are you foolish enough to discount it just because some fools found it and chose to implement it into LOA?

I'm not..kind of floats my boat. I don't like icebergs though so I'm careful
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lol....ya I should have known better. I forget that there's a million types of awareness....haha...I can "actually"(happens speratically and on accident) connect to this one girl across the country sometimes! It's pretty cool.

Currently, I'm trying to build presence. IE: Being aware of my overall environment.

My theory is what changed my life...it got me from suppressing feelings to experiencing. It changed my mindset. My happiness level...everything.

Yet in the same context presence makes me feel more alive.

And yes when I mean develop awareness I mean in terms of limiting beliefs. So you find the underlying structure? How do you identify it?

Thanks Bart I really appreciate it.
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And yes when I mean develop awareness I mean in terms of limiting beliefs. So you find the underlying structure? How do you identify it?

Thanks Bart I really appreciate it.
though I think we're gonna hijack this thread and take it somewhere else but if you wanna play along, then first answer the questions I asked you on my previous post and you'll start to notice the underlying structure emerging

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what do you avoid feeling by 'thinking of some stupid theory'?

or

what does it allow you to keep feeling by 'thinking of some stupid theory'


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Haha...the conversation we're currently having on LOA isn't going anywhere. No one's really getting what I'm trying to say so it's my definitely my fault for not communicating properly. I am enjoying the conversation with Suzanne though

As for the questions...I love how Mr. Subtle just called out "the genie" or asking questions because that's exactly the process we are going through now...I'm not saying this is LOA...please don't get me wrong...people who teach LOA teach asking questions and give it some mystical name to increase sales so when it works it sells better. It's just the nature of marketing. You give false hope and then teach what needs to be taught. LOA is the perfect example of marketing....why? Because it's the same process as SI. Just another branch of it...the difference is LOA get's more excitement and buzz around it and therefor get more cooperation from their customers...

K, now that our conversation has "everything" to do with the conversation overall conversation:

--That is the exact process I'm trying to go through here....get outside of my head...your exactly right though. Instead of paying attention to my surroundings I'm trying to be present...being present to me is being aware of your body while at the same time your environment...but maybe I'm doing too much. Maybe I should shift my attention outward. I'm spending a lot of time working on my overall body awareness...posture, breathing, being grounded, feelings, experiencing, pain, relaxation, tightness, etc. I'm just working on overall being present with my body and my environment....I think if I shift my focus to the smaller environment interactions I'd be doing the same exact thing I'm doing with my bodies....so that's my underlying problem Awareness of my whole body and my whole environment is what I'm aiming for but I'm constantly fixing the effects.

1. That's exactly it. My whole life I've been huge in suppression but I had no clue I was doing it. The end result was obviously living inside of my head..this concept changed about a month ago when I picked up the Sedona Method....I'm sllooowllly getting out of my mind and starting to pay attention to both my body and my surroundings(my #1 goal in life really. That's what living is all about!!)...so basically I'm in this transition state but it's taking me a long time to get there.

2. Thinking inside of my head is crucial for me right now. It's always been my backbone.
I'm in the process of developing 2 maybe 3 teams and I'm completely immersed in success because that's my number one goal currently. I'm studying The Law of Success, The Master Key System(yyeess...LOA but it's MORE a mastery of the thought process.) and I'm looking to make money...my head and theory is sooo very important currently.

So long story short, I'm stuck in between two worlds....inner and outer. I'm sure this will cure itself in time but I don't want to wait forever for it to happen....I'm afraid that if I put my presence in the back of my mind it won't be back anytime soon...because my mind has dominated my being my entire life.

hmm....questions are quite the truth...errr....scam
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Haha...the conversation we're currently having on LOA isn't going anywhere. No one's really getting what I'm trying to say so it's my definitely my fault for not communicating properly. I am enjoying the conversation with Suzanne though

As for the questions...I love how Mr. Subtle just called out "the genie" or asking questions because that's exactly the process we are going through now...I'm not saying this is LOA...please don't get me wrong...people who teach LOA teach asking questions and give it some mystical name to increase sales so when it works it sells better. It's just the nature of marketing. You give false hope and then teach what needs to be taught. LOA is the perfect example of marketing....why? Because it's the same process as SI. Just another branch of it...the difference is LOA get's more excitement and buzz around it and therefor get more cooperation from their customers...

K, now that our conversation has "everything" to do with the conversation overall conversation:

--That is the exact process I'm trying to go through here....get outside of my head...your exactly right though. Instead of paying attention to my surroundings I'm trying to be present...being present to me is being aware of your body while at the same time your environment...but maybe I'm doing too much. Maybe I should shift my attention outward. I'm spending a lot of time working on my overall body awareness...posture, breathing, being grounded, feelings, experiencing, pain, relaxation, tightness, etc. I'm just working on overall being present with my body and my environment....I think if I shift my focus to the smaller environment interactions I'd be doing the same exact thing I'm doing with my bodies....so that's my underlying problem Awareness of my whole body and my whole environment is what I'm aiming for but I'm constantly fixing the effects.

1. That's exactly it. My whole life I've been huge in suppression but I had no clue I was doing it. The end result was obviously living inside of my head..this concept changed about a month ago when I picked up the Sedona Method....I'm sllooowllly getting out of my mind and starting to pay attention to both my body and my surroundings(my #1 goal in life really. That's what living is all about!!)...so basically I'm in this transition state but it's taking me a long time to get there.

2. Thinking inside of my head is crucial for me right now. It's always been my backbone.
I'm in the process of developing 2 maybe 3 teams and I'm completely immersed in success because that's my number one goal currently. I'm studying The Law of Success, The Master Key System(yyeess...LOA but it's MORE a mastery of the thought process.) and I'm looking to make money...my head and theory is sooo very important currently.

So long story short, I'm stuck in between two worlds....inner and outer. I'm sure this will cure itself in time but I don't want to wait forever for it to happen....I'm afraid that if I put my presence in the back of my mind it won't be back anytime soon...because my mind has dominated my being my entire life.

hmm....see questions are good
nice rant.. but you did not answer the questions... :-)

so I'm going to give you examples... the key is on the word "feeling".. not on "thinking"

what are avoiding feeling... ?

ie: fearful, lost, stuck, doubt, uncertainty, anxiety,

what does it allow you keep feeling?

ie: in control, safe, comfortable, being smart, important, ...

now answer those questions again... the above are examples your answer might be different.. but then you know the direction where to look for.. ."noticing your feelings"

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hahahaha...that's exactly what my cute friend says all the time!!! grrrr...she's all like...your mind fills you with nothing but lies!! crap...feelings I felt happy when I was talking about Sheki...and laughter when I read your response...ya I'm bad with feelings : 0 I'll get better though.

I'm avoiding....feeling in itself. I've been a little afraid(because I'm afraid of who I am sometimes...I don't know what's down there through all of the thoughts) Directly...I'm avoiding feeling happy and content. I feel happy with what I'm doing every day...but once again I'm suppressing because I'm afraid.

Being trapped inside my mind makes me feel...safe and in control...like I control my own destiny through my mind because I think it's that important...I'm sure it is...but once again this is thinking ...and also, the biggest feeling I have that comes into play is curiosity...I'm immensely curious about the world I live in and my mind fuels the curiosity....crap ranting!!

There we go....was that better but I still need some work here.

Grr...I just need to stop thinking so much...I need to let go of wanting to understand!!!
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I also feel in control of my reactions to my environment!! That one's huge.
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hahahaha...that's exactly what my cute friend says all the time!!! grrrr...she's all like...your mind fills you with nothing but lies!! crap...feelings I felt happy when I was talking about Sheki...and laughter when I read your response...ya I'm bad with feelings : 0 I'll get better though.

I'm avoiding....feeling in itself. I've been a little afraid(because I'm afraid of who I am sometimes...I don't know what's down there through all of the thoughts) Directly...I'm avoiding feeling happy and content. I feel happy with what I'm doing every day...but once again I'm suppressing because I'm afraid.

Being trapped inside my mind makes me feel...safe and in control...like I control my own destiny through my mind because I think it's that important...I'm sure it is...but once again this is thinking ...and also, the biggest feeling I have that comes into play is curiosity...I'm immensely curious about the world I live in and my mind fuels the curiosity....crap ranting!!

There we go....was that better but I still need some work here.

Grr...I just need to stop thinking so much...I need to let go of wanting to understand!!!
ok nice one..

here's a 'one word answer' question.. if that makes sense:

what kind of person avoids feeling in itself?

I would suggest us to take that offline here... if you want to explore this further..because it's gonna sting and you might not like what we come up with...

but it's gonna deal with underlying stuff precise and direct.. and there will be no room for squirmng around...

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An insecure person

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oh...this gets intense

I'm suppressing depression because of my father...the good news is I have the ability to distance myself from him which will in turn allow me to let go!

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Hi Guys,

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Today I want to talk to you about the Law of Attraction. This is a subject that I feel strongly about because I have had so many experiences with it in my life, however I'm so frustrated at the way "The Secret" portrayed it.

Have you seen "The Secret"?

Well in case you haven't, here's a quick overview... "The Secret" is a documentary style movie written by Rhonda Byrne and features people like Bob Proctor, Jack Canfield, Michael Beckwith and Dr. John Demartini and its sole purpose is to illustrate and create awareness of the law of attraction.

The law of attraction basically says that like attracts like. If your mind is constantly thinking about something with intensity, then it is sending out a certain powerful frequency like a radio antenna which draws other people to that frequency like a magnet.

As an example, this is one of my many stories...

I attended a company launch event one evening in London, UK which I travelled 90 miles on the train to attend. My only purpose there was to celebrate the business launch and network with other business owners. At the time, my mind was constantly thinking about how I could kickstart an internet media business that I was focused on.

When I arrived at the event, I was feeling somewhat rushed after battling through the London underground to arrive at the venue at the last minute. After arriving at the venue, I took a 'random' seat and started to make polite conversation with the gentleman next to me about what we do, etc.

After a few minutes, he told me he was the owner of an internet media business I was very familiar with. After further conversation, he told me that he was from the same town as me. A strange coincidence you might say, but the town is just a town of 20,000 people and 90 miles away from the venue, and his business is similar [but not in direct competition] to the business I wanted to launch.

A month after the event, I called the man and asked him if he could meet for coffee. I interviewed him and he agreed to be my mentor which opened up many doors for me.

This was my first conscious experience of the law of attraction and I felt quite 'spooked'. I now understand the law of attraction and when these things happen, I'm appreciative but expect them to happen. You may have an example of something like this happen in your own life, and if you've never had any exposure to the law of attraction, then you could be forgiven for writing off the incident as a 'coincidence'.

Well, lucky coincidences don't just happen. We attract the resources and people into our life by the choices and actions that we make.

You can be forgiven for thinking that the law of attraction is activated simply by thinking about something constantly and consistently. "The Secret" gives this impression and I have heard many people use it as an excuse not to take action. They think they can just stay at home, do nothing and attract success into their lives.

My story includes the one missing ingredient that many people overlook... action! I had to take action! I had to go to the event in London and had to put myself in an environment where that 'luck', 'coincidence' or 'attraction' could happen. I use all three of those terms there because it doesn't matter which of those things you believe. What is important is that you understand that you must take action for that 'luck', 'coincidence' or 'attraction' to possibly take effect.

Appreciate that you can use the law of attraction to your advantage, but please remember to take action. Action is the bridge between your dream and its fulfilment.

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