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crazy!! at first she was anti-clockwise ... then i scrolled back up to your words and could only see half of her and she started going clockwise .... and now everytime i look she is going clockwise ... insane!! |
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Hi, RE - the gorilla. I followed the instructions for that video and was impressed/a little shocked when I watched it the second time. I would guess that it's because your eyes are drawn down lower (the white team bounce it lower at the right point) and you are consciously ignoring the dark team's legs in order to focus on the white team. Interesting stuff. |
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Clockwise . . . I put it on my desktop to watch and it moves slower yet still clockwise. Great thread! |
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I'm curious about something. The picture IS moving, right? That part isn't an illusion. Which means it has to be going in some kind of direction, right? Well there's only two directions that I know of, right and left. So which one is it? This kind of stuff drives me crazy. ![]() Honestly, I really don't get how it can't be moving in some direction. Is there some kind of scientific piece somewhere that explains this? |
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Okay, my wife just came home and we conducted a test. Take what you want out of it. I told her to look at the picture turning. I asked her what direction she saw it turning in. I saw it left to right. She said the same thing. I then said to her, okay, when you see the picture change direction to right to left, yell "now". I'll do the same. Each time the picture changed direction we both yelled now at the same time. The picture is changing the way it is bouncing, rotating or whatever you want to call it. We did this for 5 minutes, each time successfully telling when the picture changed direction. Either are brains are connected or there is some actual random programming to this photo. Like I said, take what you want out of it. |
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I asked my wife to do the gorilla test and she missed it the first time. lol You should have seen the look on her face when I asked if she saw the gorilla. |
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The animated gif will occasionally stutter, it's not changing 'direction' it's merely faltering in its rendering. The reason both you and your wife saw it change direction at the same time was simply that your eyes were given the chance to perceive it changing because of the stutter. | |
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Hi, For the gorilla video, I presume the best approach is to tell someone to watch it and count the white team passes. If anything, allow them to formulate the idea that the trick is something to do with catching them out regarding how many passes are made. If there is no mention of gorillas, or no hint that they should be focussing elsewhere, then I guess it increases the likelihood of the illusion working. Quote:
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Very cool - for me she's always turning clockwise. Except when I focus on the shadow only, then she turns anticlockwise.
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which type of brain test is this
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Steven, Dude, you're SOoooo determined to make this something sinister and sneaky. More drama? Or just a desperate focus on appearances being simple and dependable? I'll assume you've seen the picture that, from one perspective, looks like a beautiful young woman at a dressing table, and, from another, looks like an ugly old woman in a scarf. This is somewhat similar in effect, although not precisely. Perspective depends on a lot of things. Most perspective is subjective, and that causes some people a big problem. They want appearances, as they perceive them, to be constant and unchanging. Stuff like this will mess with a lot of folks, because they don't want to believe their eyes will play tricks on them, much less their minds, which are what does it for these types of demonstrations. Your brain constantly interprets things, filling in gaps, assigning meaning and "fact" based on recognition skills, momentary laterality (which side of the brain you're using as primary right now), lighting, and a ton of other factors. Understanding that, as it plays out in day to day life, is what creates "the wisdom of age." It's not about experience, it's about understanding the role of experience in how we interpret things, and knowing just how often those interpretations can be completely wrong. I spoke with a woman earlier today who "gets" this at 30, and has for a long time. I've spoken with plenty of people in their 70's and 80's who still don't get it. (We in the trade call those people "old fools.") Instead of looking for a conspiracy, take this as a lesson in the mutability of perception. That's not only more accurate, it's more productive. Understanding just how much of our daily experience is a matter of how we choose to look at things is a liberating lesson. Paul |
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I would also really love to hear Paul Hancox take on this too... ![]() Thomas | |
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She is neither moving counter clockwise or clockwise. Pixels are moving from left to right, up and down. No spinning what so ever just going to one side to another ![]() Louis | |
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The brain work weird and is very mysterious.... Thanks so much for that! Omar! |
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Hi TomW, PG tips of course. ![]() Hi Paul (also Seye post #69), My personal perspective is that peoples' reactions and conclusions are the most interesting test results from this. And the reason I feel that these things are valuable is that I think it's beneficial for anyone (particularly those in business) to consider increasing their ability, and inclination to - a) ask questions of themselves about the things that they see around them that make them go 'hmmm' b) quickly arrive at logical decisions about how something 'works' and lessen the time it takes to reach a final conclusion c) apply the lessons that they learn from these processes to other areas of life to see if new lessons are learnt Put another way, it's wise to develop a habit of 'looking behind the curtain' and double-checking oneself for faulty assumptions. For example - consider how much time each of us might spend reading/learning/absorbing information, and bear in mind that a small increase in one's ability to recognise and discount a large proportion of what is put 'in front' of us, is going to allow us to get to the meat a lot quicker - hence the gains from the time and effort spent on these things, is going to increase exponentially. {added clarification - this was in response to Paul's post, as a follow on, but it's worth mentioning that it was from reading his views in the first place that I became more interested in the above approach. I hope that that's clearer.} |
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Tomw, You've ruined my perfectly good day because now I can only see it going clockwise and I'm totally bothered!! |
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Wow, I'm excited. I can see it going left!! I squeezed my eyes nearly shut and peeked out a little and then it turned the other way. When opened them, it continued to turn left until I squinted real hard and it turned right again. But I can do see it both ways at will now. |
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Tom, I love this pic. I saw it in the mind warriors forum before and right from the start I could see her going in both directions. It is all about perceptions. Some will see it one way and one way alone, others will see it the opposite way and still others control their own perception and the ways in which they veiw the world and this image. Great to see all the different minds in here and the way others view and perceive things. Sylvia |
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Bizarre.... At first I could only see it spinning clockwise. Finally with much effort, if I looked down at the shadow, I could change my perception and see it spinning the other way for only a few seconds, before it randomly started to spin clockwise again. Continuing to practice, I'm now at the point where I can control which way I see it spinning by looking at the shadow of the shoe, and I'm gaining a bit of control over which way it spins by looking at the whole thing. If I continue to practice, I think I could develop complete control over which way I see it spinning. Fascinating....I'm right brained by nature, but apparently easily trainable. Hmmmm.....that's information I should probably keep away from my wife. |
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Roger, That's one effective lesson to take from it. The time savings alone can be huge, not to mention the expense avoided from bad decisions. For me, the most useful parts of figuring out that perspective is malleable were learning to adjust my own and to see those of others. It's very hard not to like people when you realize how much we're all alike. Paul |
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Did you guys see the 'find the man in the coffee beans' picture as well? http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php?p=27 |
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Hi Paul, (I added a note to my previous post) Quote:
![]() I find that currently it is helping me to have more accurate expectations, and therefore be more comfortable with outcomes - whether they are my own, or of others. And in a way, perhaps rather than helping me to see how alike people are, that was something that I over-estimated previously. Perhaps, I didn't realise how differently I saw things to other people, or why. Also, by realising how much perceptions are malleable, we can take more personal control of them and be more picky about who we allow to alter them. Time for bed. I'm overstraining my pea-sized head-jelly. | |
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WOW!..this is unbelievably cool. I saw it running counterclockwise at first then when I scrolled down and refocused on it again it went clockwise. Which shocked me. I started to think like Steve Wags and thought it was a timed animated GIF. Great fun! ______ Bruce |
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Interesting. In the article Eric pointed to, the author suggests that this effect has nothing to do with laterality. Okay, I can buy that. I tried a different approach, and found that you can get the change by shifting focus a bit at the right time. What's fun, and somewhat interesting, is that doing a lateral shift created the same change for me. Clearly it's not indicative of lateral dominance, but is it affected by it? Interesting stuff indeed. Paul |
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OK I figured it out now. As another poster suggested just focus on the shadow of the two feet at the bottom. Just look away and look back and it will change direction. I can now do it at will. Over and over again. Very interesting. _____ Bruce |
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Roger, That the benefit of the second would be different for you is a matter of perspective. ![]() Seriously, I believe we're talking about "alikeness" from different angles. I mean something very much at the root of what we all want and need. The surface stuff is, lergely, a matter of how we choose to go about getting it. And yeah, it's great for learning to set boundaries and expectations. When we see how people go after what they want, we can more easily see where their approaches will conflict with our own. Paul |
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Clockwise, that's really cool!
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