What am I should doing?

zeasondesign · 05-22-2009, 06:32 AM

I'm a designer and I have clients.
Usually I will ask my clients to see my portfolio and if they like my portfolio and my price, I will ask them to pay the advance money first before I design them. But some people use my condition for their bad purpose.

After they paid advance money and revise the design I gave to them,
they run and I can't contact them (or they ignored me) before they paid the rest cost for design.

I'm confused, should I charged them full price first before I do the design or are there some ways to ignore this to be happened again?
I believe there are many experience people in Warrior and may be some of you can help me. I have already had many experiences in this.

Thank you

mrjasonser · 05-30-2009, 03:10 AM

Hi zeasondesign,

A few quick suggestions,in random, you can change or modified it as you wish:

- Use a screenshot or other less quality resolution format when you send for approval.

- Put Watermarks of your company on all works before full payment.

- For higher price service, 20% upfront, 30% upon 1st draft, and remaining 50% before you send them the original format.

- Create a Black List page with details of the company, individuals, and the work you done for them so you can help prevent other victims.

- And off course, you can simply charge them the full upfront if you are very confidence of your work or that is only a small % of people doing that.

-Also you can also give "incentive" like a lower price or future discount coupons for those who choose tp pay 100% upfront.

-I had seen people who charge upfront, have terms like "up to 2 revision" for the project. I think this is also a good practice. It helps to prevent abuse of revision, which can be quite a headache for designer' service. And you can always gave more revision as stated in the terms as and when you feel the client is a good client, and it will become an extra service for them.

I will post more when I have more ideas.

Cheers
Jason Ser

MyOnlineSuccess · 05-30-2009, 04:00 AM

You should not work diretly with clients online.

I would suggest you work through a service like GURU.COM or ELANCE - they will give you the protection needed and clients are far less likely to abuse it.

1 Marketing · 05-30-2009, 10:05 AM

Frankly speaking this issue if relative... I mean every one may have different view and may vary from profession to profession. As you are designer, you are charging for innovative ideas expressed in shape of a design...

You should discuss with some finance professional warrior...

zeasondesign · 07-29-2009, 10:15 AM

Hello everyone,

Thank you very much for your great advice.
I'm strongly helpful.

Best Regards

05-22-2009, 06:32 AM	#1
zeasondesign Graphic Designer War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 52 Thanks: 24 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	What am I should doing? I'm a designer and I have clients. Usually I will ask my clients to see my portfolio and if they like my portfolio and my price, I will ask them to pay the advance money first before I design them. But some people use my condition for their bad purpose. After they paid advance money and revise the design I gave to them, they run and I can't contact them (or they ignored me) before they paid the rest cost for design. I'm confused, should I charged them full price first before I do the design or are there some ways to ignore this to be happened again? I believe there are many experience people in Warrior and may be some of you can help me. I have already had many experiences in this. Thank you
	For more information, you can contact me through PM or my email address : zeasondesign@gmail.com

05-30-2009, 03:10 AM	#2
mrjasonser The FreeSpiritMaster War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Singapore Born, But Now Having the time of my life in Taiwan even though sometime I hated it here. Posts: 102 Thanks: 39 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts	Re: What am I should doing? Hi zeasondesign, A few quick suggestions,in random, you can change or modified it as you wish: - Use a screenshot or other less quality resolution format when you send for approval. - Put Watermarks of your company on all works before full payment. - For higher price service, 20% upfront, 30% upon 1st draft, and remaining 50% before you send them the original format. - Create a Black List page with details of the company, individuals, and the work you done for them so you can help prevent other victims. - And off course, you can simply charge them the full upfront if you are very confidence of your work or that is only a small % of people doing that. -Also you can also give "incentive" like a lower price or future discount coupons for those who choose tp pay 100% upfront. -I had seen people who charge upfront, have terms like "up to 2 revision" for the project. I think this is also a good practice. It helps to prevent abuse of revision, which can be quite a headache for designer' service. And you can always gave more revision as stated in the terms as and when you feel the client is a good client, and it will become an extra service for them. I will post more when I have more ideas. Cheers Jason Ser
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05-30-2009, 04:00 AM	#3
MyOnlineSuccess Active Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: What am I should doing? You should not work diretly with clients online. I would suggest you work through a service like GURU.COM or ELANCE - they will give you the protection needed and clients are far less likely to abuse it.

05-30-2009, 10:05 AM	#4
1 Marketing HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 193 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Re: What am I should doing? Frankly speaking this issue if relative... I mean every one may have different view and may vary from profession to profession. As you are designer, you are charging for innovative ideas expressed in shape of a design... You should discuss with some finance professional warrior...

07-29-2009, 10:15 AM	#5
zeasondesign Graphic Designer War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 52 Thanks: 24 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: What am I should doing? Hello everyone, Thank you very much for your great advice. I'm strongly helpful. Best Regards
	For more information, you can contact me through PM or my email address : zeasondesign@gmail.com