Is coffee good or bad for you?

Michael Lee · 05-27-2009, 11:34 AM

Hey guys,

I've been hearing some health gurus say that coffee is garbage and does nothing good. But other health gurus say that it's rich in antioxidants and good for your body.

So which is correct? What are the pros and cons of drinking coffee? I'm a coffee lover, so I hope it's a healthy drink.

Thanks,
Michael

honestbizpro · 05-27-2009, 11:39 AM

Hey Micheal,

I have found the most important word in life is MODERATION.

I had a friend who was going to get coffee in the middle of the night. I asked her why and she could not give me a good reason.

Weeks later she fainted and eventually needed a blood transfusion. Yikes!

That may be an extreme case but we have to be aware of what we place in our bodies and how much of it.

Emily Meeks · 05-27-2009, 11:44 AM

Coffee reduces the risks of liver cancer, Parkinson's and heart disease, but at the same time it will erode your calcium if you drink in excess. Fortunately for you but sadly for me, it's the women at higher risk for calcium loss in that event.

2-3 cups of coffee a day + calcium tablet if you're worried

honestbizpro · 05-27-2009, 11:53 AM

Here are a couple opinions...

The downside of a caffeine high | WindyCitizen.com

:: Taking stock of coffee's benefits, drawbacks ::

Coffee and tea and cocoa … oh my! | New Life Journal | Find Articles at BNET

borischileno · 05-27-2009, 12:01 PM

the key is moderation, am also a canadian and a tim hortons addict

I also own 5 coffee vending machines and run a coffee newsletter .
But I have not drunk 3 cups of coffee since I was in school working on papers all night.

... a coffee a day helps me copy!

cheers,
boris

epik-marketing · 05-27-2009, 02:11 PM

I don't drink coffee but I heard Organic is better for you
and never overload on it...
I actually heard the best in the world to drink is from Kona

bigredrassler · 05-27-2009, 02:35 PM

Something I know about...Like anything else, coffee has positive and negative characteristics, and like anything else, individuals have wildly varying reactions to caffiene. My wife can't drink more than 6 cups a day or she will have a severe reaction, raise in BP, and lower stress tolerance, I drink upwards of 2 pots a day and only have slightly elevated bp in the middle of the afternoon. We both drink our coffee dilute, her with creamer and artificial sweetener, me with sugar and milk. To cut down on caffiene and increase or perserve the taste, try switching to a darker roast, and as was said above, remember all things in moderation, my wife and I both drink too much java, but 2 or 3 cups in a day, especially a half-caf, decaf, or dark roast(Folgers makes a blend called "Black Silk" which probably has less caffiene in two cups than one can of Mountain Dew) certainly won't kill you.

pplsearch · 05-27-2009, 04:54 PM

I've heard good and bad things about coffee. Seems to me that the people who drink at least one cup a day know all of the "good" statistics, about antioxidants, how it really doesn't dehydrate you as much as they say, etc.

But for me personally, coffee is bad for me. It makes me jittery, it messes up my sleep cycle, and I crash hours later. And this is not something I'm going to try to build up immunity to to prove that it doesn't have those strong effects.

genieofwealth · 05-27-2009, 05:39 PM

coffee contains caffiene which is nicotines cousin.

it attacks the nerves and brain.

also there is too much salt in caffiene believe it or not so anyone with high blood pressure cut the coffee out!

on a different note tea is considered healthier however, it has an amazing amount of Fluoride in it which on top of using mouth wash, tooth paste and water which all contain fluoride it is better to cut down on tea as well.

doesn't leave you much to drink - sorry!

genieofwealth

genieofwealth · 05-27-2009, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigredrassler

Something I know about...Like anything else, coffee has positive and negative characteristics, and like anything else, individuals have wildly varying reactions to caffiene. My wife can't drink more than 6 cups a day or she will have a severe reaction, raise in BP, and lower stress tolerance, I drink upwards of 2 pots a day and only have slightly elevated bp in the middle of the afternoon. We both drink our coffee dilute, her with creamer and artificial sweetener, me with sugar and milk. To cut down on caffiene and increase or perserve the taste, try switching to a darker roast, and as was said above, remember all things in moderation, my wife and I both drink too much java, but 2 or 3 cups in a day, especially a half-caf, decaf, or dark roast(Folgers makes a blend called "Black Silk" which probably has less caffiene in two cups than one can of Mountain Dew) certainly won't kill you.

hi,

make sure that your artificial sweetener isn't Aspartame.

seriously you need to kick this as it is used in all or most diet products.

the fda banned its use until in 84 there was a change when a certain person linked to presidents (i won't name him here) became head of the fda.

immediately it was put into the public use and declared - good to use.

i won't go into a really big rant but please google it and check it out.

genieofwealth

unlimited1 · 05-27-2009, 06:05 PM

Ive heard one or two a day is fine - inbetween I now drink peppermint tea with honey, so dont miss all the coffee I used to drink - I think alot of it is the habit of making and drinking a hot drink!

stevenh512 · 05-27-2009, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genieofwealth

coffee contains caffiene which is nicotines cousin.

Really? Back in my school days chemistry was one of my favorite subjects. While caffeine and nicotine have chemical formulas that may look similar (caffeine = C8H10N4O2, nicotine = C10H14N2), their chemical structures bear almost no resemblance to each other. They also don't bind to the same receptors in the nervous system, although they do both increase the level of dopamine (as do most addictive drugs).

Nicotine binds to the brain's acetylcholine receptors, while caffeine binds to the adenosine receptors.

I'd hardly call them cousins any more than I'd call cocaine and methamphetamine cousins knowing that they're entirely different chemicals that work in different ways aside from the dopamine effect. (note that this isn't an endorsement for cocaine, methamphetamine or any other illegal drug.. I simply used those as examples because "on the surface" their effects seem similar even though in reality they're completely different).

Quote:

it attacks the nerves and brain.

It causes chemical changes in the brain, but so does almost any other drug (and many other things we put into our bodies every day that we don't consider to be a drug, including most foods and even the air we breathe). I've never seen any evidence that it "attacks" the nerves and brain, though.

Quote:

also there is too much salt in caffiene believe it or not so anyone with high blood pressure cut the coffee out!

Caffeine = C8H10N4O2 = 8 carbon, 10 hydrogen, 4 nitrogen, 2 oxygen
Salt = NaCl = 1 sodium, 1 chlorine

Caffeine contains no sodium or chlorine, so (alchemy aside) it couldn't possibly contain salt.. but it does raise the blood pressure by binding the brain's adenosine receptors, constricting blood vessels and causing the heart to pump harder and faster.

Now with that out of the way (sorry, I'm a "nerd" at heart and don't like to see misinformation about scientific facts go uncorrected.. lol), to go back to the OP's question. Too much caffeine is bad for you, that's a given, people have known that for as long as we've known how it works in the body (and probably longer than that). That being said, there is some evidence that if you're healthy (no heart/blood pressure problems), coffee or tea can be good for you in moderation. It's also true that everybody reacts to caffeine differently. I know people who can drink a cup of coffee and be "spun" all day. I can drink 3 cups of coffee before bed and have no trouble falling asleep.

honestbizpro · 05-27-2009, 06:06 PM

I think the same concerns we have for Java, should be placed on High Fructose Corn Syrup.

stevenh512 · 05-27-2009, 06:09 PM

honestbizpro, you have a point.. in fact if I were a gambling man I'd almost be willing to bet high fructose corn syrup is a lot worse for you than caffeine in the long run.. lol

John M Kane · 05-27-2009, 06:54 PM

I read that acidic foods,including coffee, require calcium for our bods to process.

If you ingest a lot of acidic foods the bod leaches calcium from your skeleton.
Which can lead to major issues especially for women.

Moderation is the key.

I love java but, causes muscle cramps so, I avoid it.

Try thinking about some Kopi Lowak next time you want a cup >>> Kopi Luwak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bennette · 05-27-2009, 08:13 PM

Hi Michael,

I had a cafe business for 8 years. The key is moderation. Anything that you over indulge like food, alcohol and coffee can go from being good to bad if you abuse it. I personally love expresso because it's short, strong and gets straight to the point. If you drink coffee brew it yourself and make a good strong cup so you don't need 3-4 cups daily.

danmorton · 05-27-2009, 09:55 PM

Michael -

I LOVE coffee! I don't think that anything could make me quit drinking it now.

Seems like the "experts" have turned just about everything enjoyable into a poison at one time or another.

I don't think there's anything wrong with enjoying a few great cups in the morning - or afternoon - or evening. cheers!

Dan

John Durham · 05-27-2009, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigredrassler

Something I know about...Like anything else, coffee has positive and negative characteristics, and like anything else, individuals have wildly varying reactions to caffiene. My wife can't drink more than 6 cups a day or she will have a severe reaction, raise in BP, and lower stress tolerance, I drink upwards of 2 pots a day and only have slightly elevated bp in the middle of the afternoon. We both drink our coffee dilute, her with creamer and artificial sweetener, me with sugar and milk. To cut down on caffiene and increase or perserve the taste, try switching to a darker roast, and as was said above, remember all things in moderation, my wife and I both drink too much java, but 2 or 3 cups in a day, especially a half-caf, decaf, or dark roast(Folgers makes a blend called "Black Silk" which probably has less caffiene in two cups than one can of Mountain Dew) certainly won't kill you.

Like your sig.!

"...and furthermore the value of experience diminishes with the time necessary to acquire her special wisdom...the end usually finds it wasted on dead men..." -Og

John Durham · 05-27-2009, 11:40 PM

I have seen coffee produce miracles. I once took a telemarketing room from 11k to 20k per day and I think alot of it was do to making the coffee twice as strong. People were just wired for sound!

Depok Chopra speaks of a tribe of "centenarians' in Africa who can live to be 150 years old and the most common denominator among them is heavy dark coffee usage...

Jay Ang · 05-28-2009, 12:30 AM

Coffee is great but definitely not in excess ... I'm acidic too , but I simply make it a point to take some food b4 my coffee

pinoy bands · 05-28-2009, 01:48 AM

I think coffee is good for the body because it is rich in anti-oxidants but then, you must consume it in moderation to avoid other complications.

genieofwealth · 05-28-2009, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenh512

Really? Back in my school days chemistry was one of my favorite subjects. While caffeine and nicotine have chemical formulas that may look similar (caffeine = C8H10N4O2, nicotine = C10H14N2), their chemical structures bear almost no resemblance to each other. They also don't bind to the same receptors in the nervous system, although they do both increase the level of dopamine (as do most addictive drugs).

Nicotine binds to the brain's acetylcholine receptors, while caffeine binds to the adenosine receptors.

I'd hardly call them cousins any more than I'd call cocaine and methamphetamine cousins knowing that they're entirely different chemicals that work in different ways aside from the dopamine effect. (note that this isn't an endorsement for cocaine, methamphetamine or any other illegal drug.. I simply used those as examples because "on the surface" their effects seem similar even though in reality they're completely different).

It causes chemical changes in the brain, but so does almost any other drug (and many other things we put into our bodies every day that we don't consider to be a drug, including most foods and even the air we breathe). I've never seen any evidence that it "attacks" the nerves and brain, though.

Caffeine = C8H10N4O2 = 8 carbon, 10 hydrogen, 4 nitrogen, 2 oxygen
Salt = NaCl = 1 sodium, 1 chlorine

Caffeine contains no sodium or chlorine, so (alchemy aside) it couldn't possibly contain salt.. but it does raise the blood pressure by binding the brain's adenosine receptors, constricting blood vessels and causing the heart to pump harder and faster.

Now with that out of the way (sorry, I'm a "nerd" at heart and don't like to see misinformation about scientific facts go uncorrected.. lol), to go back to the OP's question. Too much caffeine is bad for you, that's a given, people have known that for as long as we've known how it works in the body (and probably longer than that). That being said, there is some evidence that if you're healthy (no heart/blood pressure problems), coffee or tea can be good for you in moderation. It's also true that everybody reacts to caffeine differently. I know people who can drink a cup of coffee and be "spun" all day. I can drink 3 cups of coffee before bed and have no trouble falling asleep.

coffee (caffiene) has been known for years to be a cousin of nicotine.

also - check your label on your next jar of coffee and check out the salt and sodium content.

adding salt to stave away bitterness has been an old trick way back from sailors and fishermen alike.

just check it out.....

Finch · 05-28-2009, 09:05 AM

It would be pretty hypocritical of me to judge anybody for drinking coffee when I spend most nights pubbing or clubbing with my liver taking a battering.

I think people overreact to all these health studies. It's basically just percentages and statistics. Who really cares? There's a risk attached to crossing the road if you're going to be super pedantic.

creative · 05-28-2009, 09:34 AM

Many people drink coffee to feel more awake.
But if you are tired, your body doesn't need coffee... It just needs more rest!

genieofwealth · 05-28-2009, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finch

It would be pretty hypocritical of me to judge anybody for drinking coffee when I spend most nights pubbing or clubbing with my liver taking a battering.

I think people overreact to all these health studies. It's basically just percentages and statistics. Who really cares? There's a risk attached to crossing the road if you're going to be super pedantic.

hi finch,

i understand what you saying and moderation in everything is fine.

the point is some supposedly harmless substances that we take for granted diet products, artificial sweeteners, drinking water has some or part chemicals in that we are not aware of the consequences health wise and spiritually what these chemicals do to dumb us down and stop us evolving and gaining enlightenment.

yours
GenieofWealth

Loren Woirhaye · 05-28-2009, 09:57 AM

Coffee is, I believe, NOT very healthful (though there are studies
which suggest some benefits). However, despite being a dedicated
healthy-diet person I still drink coffee, and love the experience but
sometimes regret the effects.

If it were just me I wouldn't have it around, but my girlfriend buys
it and we make it sometimes. I prefer Yerba Mate, a S. American
tea you may want to research and/or try out as an alternative to
coffee.

For a while some years ago I drank cold-brewed coffee which does
not have the acidity issues of hot-brewed coffee. The taste is
also slightly different. You make a extract, super-concentrated,
and when you want a cup you mix an ounce or so of concentrate
with hot or cold water to make your coffee. You can refrigerate
the concentrate and it keeps well - but it doesn't have the same
kick-of-fresh-brewed-coffee you get when you grind the beans
and brew them hot right on the spot.

All told, caffeine weakens the kidneys and should be taken in
moderation if at all.

Oscar D · 05-28-2009, 10:06 AM

I am glad you asked this question as I am drinking a cup right now, ha ha

But like others have said, moderation is the key.

Jezabel · 05-28-2009, 10:39 AM

1 cup of coffee gets me going, 2 cups make me sick and no coffee at all makes me a vegetable

JakeRhodes · 05-28-2009, 04:37 PM

As a couple of people have already mentioned, the key really is moderation. Personally coffee does me no good. After more than one cup I start feeling itchy and irritated, caffeine is a drug just like any other.

One important to thing to consider whenever you read or hear a report (be it scientific or editorial) is "who's funding this?". Not to get too in depth but if a magazine is owned by the parent company of Nescafe for example, then it's probably going to claim coffee is nothing but good.

Follow the money.

megaresp · 05-28-2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Lee

...some health gurus say that coffee is garbage and does nothing good. But other health gurus say that it's rich in antioxidants and good...

Any time there are 'gurus' in both camps, I tend to think neither has any conclusive evidence. If you like coffee, why not enjoy it?

MasterCPA · 05-28-2009, 04:57 PM

I really like coffee, so its good for me.

PrettyJenny · 05-28-2009, 05:35 PM

I live in Finland, everyone here has their own coffee maker, start drinking coffee since junior high and people still manage to live darn long. So I don't think coffee does much harm.

JohnPal · 05-28-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Lee

Hey guys,

I've been hearing some health gurus say that coffee is garbage and does nothing good. But other health gurus say that it's rich in antioxidants and good for your body.

So which is correct? What are the pros and cons of drinking coffee? I'm a coffee lover, so I hope it's a healthy drink.

Thanks,
Michael

Hi Michael,

I enjoy 3 cups a day, and haven't had any problems so far!

Some doctors say it good, some deny it totally. So the best way, is to rely on what your body tells you!

John

Here's a coffee joke to cheer you out.

One day a patient goes to the Doctor for a general check up.

After completing the check up, the wise Doctor says:

Son, it seems you’re a smoker; by the way, do you drink coffee as well!

Yes of course, the patient answers.

Doctor: Son, do you know that you’re heading to a slow death!

Patient: Doc, I’m not hurrying at all

cyowell · 05-28-2009, 08:49 PM

Coffee is the nectar of the gods!

Just like most things we consume, it can be a problem if you drink too much.

If you believe coffee is bad for you, then it is.

I find drinking a cup of coffee to be the perfect morning ritual.

1 Marketing · 05-28-2009, 11:16 PM

I have tried to use cofee many times but couldn't develop the taste for it. Instead I love to have green tea whre ever possible.

Josh Bartlett · 05-28-2009, 11:20 PM

yeah moderation is the most important word, or as I like to refer to it "Balance"

Everything in life should have balance. Too much of anything, by definition is too much!

I used to drink alot of coffee and have cut myself down to only drinking one cup a day or two a day on the days I need to be social (ie with clients) not because I need the extra cup, usually just because I will be offered and might be in a social environment like a coffee shop where I am likely to say yes.

luthekar · 05-30-2009, 01:45 AM

How ironic for me to come across this post. Before yesterday, I rarely ever drank coffee at all. But for the last two days now, I've been drinking coffee like a fanatic because of the caffeine rush, lol..

At first it was because I came across some flavors I've never heard of like "Antigua" or "Peruvian Organic" and so I bought some little packages and drank them just to see how they tasted compared to other popular brands like Folgers or Maxwell House. Now I'm drinking for the caffeine rush and not so much for the flavor, lol. (I've drank 4 pots today by myself, rofl)

So anyway, interesting topic and nice resources provided by people that replied.

(PS. I like the Peruvian Organic better than the Antigua. The Antigua is still pretty good, though.)

wtrade18 · 05-30-2009, 06:42 AM

Hmmm.....I think the best is don't over drink...

luthekar · 05-30-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wtrade18

Hmmm.....I think the best is don't over drink...

Agreed. Once I run out of what little coffee I bought, I won't be drinking it anymore except on rare occaisions. It will be back to my Mt. Dew regiments throughout the day. That will never change, lol

Clint · 05-30-2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Lee

Hey guys,

I've been hearing some health gurus say that coffee is garbage and does nothing good. But other health gurus say that it's rich in antioxidants and good for your body.

So which is correct? What are the pros and cons of drinking coffee? I'm a coffee lover, so I hope it's a healthy drink.

Thanks,
Michael

Hi Michael
The pros and cons of drinking coffee, let me think the pros are it keeps me awake long enough to get some things that I should or should not be doing doneFor the day.

Caffeine is a stimulant and they can help burn fat.

The cons of drinking coffee is that it darkens your teeth.

genieofwealth · 05-30-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clint

Hi Michael
The pros and cons of drinking coffee, let me think the pros are it keeps me awake long enough to get some things that I should or should not be doing doneFor the day.

Caffeine is a stimulant and they can help burn fat.

The cons of drinking coffee is that it darkens your teeth.

it only helps as a weight loss agent as it gives you an artificial energy kick.

Loren Woirhaye · 05-30-2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genieofwealth

it only helps as a weight loss agent as it gives you an artificial energy kick.

Actually it makes you poop and pee-off water because
it's an emetic: it dehydrates you. Most "fast" weight
loss, as wrestler's and jockey's know, is water.

Christie Love · 05-31-2009, 02:42 AM

Actually, I don't drink coffee especially after smelling other people's bad breath after drinking coffee. I don't think I ever will. Besides coffee actually makes me more sleepy. I once had the best night's sleep of my life after drinking a 4 shot Latte from Star Bucks.

Jon Steel · 05-31-2009, 06:51 AM

Go with green tea...it is WAY better for you than coffee...

genieofwealth · 05-31-2009, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye

Actually it makes you poop and pee-off water because
it's an emetic: it dehydrates you. Most "fast" weight
loss, as wrestler's and jockey's know, is water.

i was a professional body builder for 10 years and used coffee and tea to use the loo prior to competitions.

it doesn't always make you "poop" as it dehydrates you so most people i knew had to take other supplements.

the point i make is that most people don't know what is in coffee and tea.

with coffee sodium (salt) is added to take away the bitterness - check your labels so if you want to reduce stress or high blood pressure cut down on the coffee.

also caffeine contained can be addictive and hard to come off - any coffee drinker would normally find it difficult to cut down or stop all together.

with tea there are high traces of fluoride and without going into details the effects on the brain and how if anyone wants to become creative or spiritual should stay away from these types of products or seriously cut down.

we already take fluoride in through dental products and our municiple drinking water.

there are reasons that our governments attack us with basically poisons and try to pass them on as a need for our health - i.e. dental and others.

but see through them and reduce intake.

please google caffeine and fluoride to find out more

so to get on track with the originals OP - yes too much coffee is bad for you IMO

Harry Behrens · 05-31-2009, 10:19 AM

Being a heavy coffee drinker I have always tried to find the definitive answer towards the "is cofee good or bad for you" question. Ultimately the answer is the same as with milk: Nobody REALLY knows, and the more you read and research, the less sure and more confused you get.

A lot of people have very heavy beliefs one way or the other. I know I've seen reports of serious studies that conclude both good and bad things for coffee... from the usual acidic/dehydration/calcium-leeching stuff to stuff that says coffee enhances workout intensity, protects against cavities and reduces the risk of heart disease.

No matter which way you want to lean you'll find way more than enough evidence to support either 'good' or 'bad' claims... So in the end it's all down to your own responsibility of consuming it or not. I can tell you my own productivity is 200% when I have a good cup of coffee in me, I'm more creative, think faster, and can deal with problems more confidently. That is worth it to me.

John Blaisdale · 05-31-2009, 12:30 PM

I don't see it adding any significant gain to your overall health. With that said, anything in moderation can be good to some extent.

Brian.expert · 06-03-2009, 09:04 AM

I sometimes hear coffee is good and then I hear its bad..but I guess things taken within limits are all fine. But it sometimes depends on your body make up too as I have heard some people are allergic to certain things they take but thats an exception ...what do you say guys?

workingmamma · 06-03-2009, 10:17 AM

Moderation is always the best I think in anythings and really I get sick of reading the news because one day something is good for you and the next it is goingto kill you!!

I love my diet pepsi and I have read some places where the diet in it is bad for you and then some say you could never drink enough to hurt you. I also use alot of splenda and hear the same thing on it.

Buhry · 06-03-2009, 10:52 AM

I think coffee can be good for you if you don't drink too much. A little caffeine has been known to boost your metabolism. I also like to drink a lot of coffe if I need to stay up in order to get something done, however I doubt that that is ''good'' for me, lol.

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05-27-2009, 04:54 PM	#8
pplsearch Warrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Southern California Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I've heard good and bad things about coffee. Seems to me that the people who drink at least one cup a day know all of the "good" statistics, about antioxidants, how it really doesn't dehydrate you as much as they say, etc. But for me personally, coffee is bad for me. It makes me jittery, it messes up my sleep cycle, and I crash hours later. And this is not something I'm going to try to build up immunity to to prove that it doesn't have those strong effects.
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05-27-2009, 05:39 PM	#9
genieofwealth Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 16 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? coffee contains caffiene which is nicotines cousin. it attacks the nerves and brain. also there is too much salt in caffiene believe it or not so anyone with high blood pressure cut the coffee out! on a different note tea is considered healthier however, it has an amazing amount of Fluoride in it which on top of using mouth wash, tooth paste and water which all contain fluoride it is better to cut down on tea as well. doesn't leave you much to drink - sorry! genieofwealth
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05-27-2009, 06:05 PM	#11
unlimited1 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 56 Thanks: 11 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Ive heard one or two a day is fine - inbetween I now drink peppermint tea with honey, so dont miss all the coffee I used to drink - I think alot of it is the habit of making and drinking a hot drink!

05-27-2009, 06:06 PM	#13
honestbizpro Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 3,840 Thanks: 195 Thanked 509 Times in 316 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I think the same concerns we have for Java, should be placed on High Fructose Corn Syrup.
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05-27-2009, 06:09 PM	#14
stevenh512 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Landers, CA, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 30 Thanked 29 Times in 26 Posts Social Networking	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? honestbizpro, you have a point.. in fact if I were a gambling man I'd almost be willing to bet high fructose corn syrup is a lot worse for you than caffeine in the long run.. lol
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05-27-2009, 06:54 PM	#15
John M Kane HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: In a Van Down by the River Posts: 456 Thanks: 44 Thanked 69 Times in 55 Posts Social Networking	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I read that acidic foods,including coffee, require calcium for our bods to process. If you ingest a lot of acidic foods the bod leaches calcium from your skeleton. Which can lead to major issues especially for women. Moderation is the key. I love java but, causes muscle cramps so, I avoid it. Try thinking about some Kopi Lowak next time you want a cup >>> Kopi Luwak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

05-27-2009, 08:13 PM	#16
Bennette HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 309 Thanks: 179 Thanked 105 Times in 48 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Hi Michael, I had a cafe business for 8 years. The key is moderation. Anything that you over indulge like food, alcohol and coffee can go from being good to bad if you abuse it. I personally love expresso because it's short, strong and gets straight to the point. If you drink coffee brew it yourself and make a good strong cup so you don't need 3-4 cups daily.

05-27-2009, 09:55 PM	#17
danmorton Dan Morton Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 52 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Social Networking	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Michael - I LOVE coffee! I don't think that anything could make me quit drinking it now. Seems like the "experts" have turned just about everything enjoyable into a poison at one time or another. I don't think there's anything wrong with enjoying a few great cups in the morning - or afternoon - or evening. cheers! Dan

05-27-2009, 11:40 PM	#19
John Durham Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 3,313 Thanks: 2,784 Thanked 3,044 Times in 1,180 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I have seen coffee produce miracles. I once took a telemarketing room from 11k to 20k per day and I think alot of it was do to making the coffee twice as strong. People were just wired for sound! Depok Chopra speaks of a tribe of "centenarians' in Africa who can live to be 150 years old and the most common denominator among them is heavy dark coffee usage...
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05-28-2009, 12:30 AM	#20
Jay Ang Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Coffee is great but definitely not in excess ... I'm acidic too , but I simply make it a point to take some food b4 my coffee
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05-28-2009, 01:48 AM	#21
pinoy bands Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I think coffee is good for the body because it is rich in anti-oxidants but then, you must consume it in moderation to avoid other complications.
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05-28-2009, 09:05 AM	#23
Finch Affiliate Marketer Join Date: May 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 80 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts Social Networking	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? It would be pretty hypocritical of me to judge anybody for drinking coffee when I spend most nights pubbing or clubbing with my liver taking a battering. I think people overreact to all these health studies. It's basically just percentages and statistics. Who really cares? There's a risk attached to crossing the road if you're going to be super pedantic.
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05-28-2009, 09:34 AM	#24
creative HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 390 Thanks: 78 Thanked 60 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Many people drink coffee to feel more awake. But if you are tired, your body doesn't need coffee... It just needs more rest!
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05-28-2009, 09:57 AM	#26
Loren Woirhaye Who'm I kidding? War Room Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Easthampton, Massachusetts Posts: 4,542 Blog Entries: 15 Thanks: 117 Thanked 904 Times in 651 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Coffee is, I believe, NOT very healthful (though there are studies which suggest some benefits). However, despite being a dedicated healthy-diet person I still drink coffee, and love the experience but sometimes regret the effects. If it were just me I wouldn't have it around, but my girlfriend buys it and we make it sometimes. I prefer Yerba Mate, a S. American tea you may want to research and/or try out as an alternative to coffee. For a while some years ago I drank cold-brewed coffee which does not have the acidity issues of hot-brewed coffee. The taste is also slightly different. You make a extract, super-concentrated, and when you want a cup you mix an ounce or so of concentrate with hot or cold water to make your coffee. You can refrigerate the concentrate and it keeps well - but it doesn't have the same kick-of-fresh-brewed-coffee you get when you grind the beans and brew them hot right on the spot. All told, caffeine weakens the kidneys and should be taken in moderation if at all.
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05-28-2009, 10:06 AM	#27
Oscar D Captain War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,029 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 86 Thanked 48 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I am glad you asked this question as I am drinking a cup right now, ha ha But like others have said, moderation is the key.
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05-28-2009, 10:39 AM	#28
Jezabel Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 16 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? 1 cup of coffee gets me going, 2 cups make me sick and no coffee at all makes me a vegetable

05-28-2009, 04:37 PM	#29
JakeRhodes HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 188 Blog Entries: 8 Thanks: 2 Thanked 42 Times in 15 Posts Social Networking	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? As a couple of people have already mentioned, the key really is moderation. Personally coffee does me no good. After more than one cup I start feeling itchy and irritated, caffeine is a drug just like any other. One important to thing to consider whenever you read or hear a report (be it scientific or editorial) is "who's funding this?". Not to get too in depth but if a magazine is owned by the parent company of Nescafe for example, then it's probably going to claim coffee is nothing but good. Follow the money.
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05-28-2009, 04:57 PM	#31
MasterCPA Warrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I really like coffee, so its good for me.

05-28-2009, 05:35 PM	#32
PrettyJenny HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In a delicious sin Posts: 125 Thanks: 10 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts Contact Info	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I live in Finland, everyone here has their own coffee maker, start drinking coffee since junior high and people still manage to live darn long. So I don't think coffee does much harm.
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05-28-2009, 08:49 PM	#34
cyowell Warrior Queen War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA Posts: 85 Thanks: 10 Thanked 29 Times in 24 Posts Social Networking	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Coffee is the nectar of the gods! Just like most things we consume, it can be a problem if you drink too much. If you believe coffee is bad for you, then it is. I find drinking a cup of coffee to be the perfect morning ritual.
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05-28-2009, 11:16 PM	#35
1 Marketing HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 193 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I have tried to use cofee many times but couldn't develop the taste for it. Instead I love to have green tea whre ever possible.

05-28-2009, 11:20 PM	#36
Josh Bartlett HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 232 Thanks: 50 Thanked 44 Times in 28 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? yeah moderation is the most important word, or as I like to refer to it "Balance" Everything in life should have balance. Too much of anything, by definition is too much! I used to drink alot of coffee and have cut myself down to only drinking one cup a day or two a day on the days I need to be social (ie with clients) not because I need the extra cup, usually just because I will be offered and might be in a social environment like a coffee shop where I am likely to say yes.
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05-30-2009, 01:45 AM	#37
luthekar Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? How ironic for me to come across this post. Before yesterday, I rarely ever drank coffee at all. But for the last two days now, I've been drinking coffee like a fanatic because of the caffeine rush, lol.. At first it was because I came across some flavors I've never heard of like "Antigua" or "Peruvian Organic" and so I bought some little packages and drank them just to see how they tasted compared to other popular brands like Folgers or Maxwell House. Now I'm drinking for the caffeine rush and not so much for the flavor, lol. (I've drank 4 pots today by myself, rofl) So anyway, interesting topic and nice resources provided by people that replied. (PS. I like the Peruvian Organic better than the Antigua. The Antigua is still pretty good, though.)

05-30-2009, 06:42 AM	#38
wtrade18 Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Hmmm.....I think the best is don't over drink...

05-31-2009, 02:42 AM	#43
Christie Love The Fabulous One War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 930 Thanks: 11 Thanked 79 Times in 68 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Actually, I don't drink coffee especially after smelling other people's bad breath after drinking coffee. I don't think I ever will. Besides coffee actually makes me more sleepy. I once had the best night's sleep of my life after drinking a 4 shot Latte from Star Bucks.
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05-31-2009, 06:51 AM	#44
Jon Steel HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 438 Thanks: 68 Thanked 32 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Go with green tea...it is WAY better for you than coffee...

05-31-2009, 10:19 AM	#46
Harry Behrens HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Caracas, Venezuela Posts: 306 Thanks: 118 Thanked 167 Times in 69 Posts Contact Info	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? Being a heavy coffee drinker I have always tried to find the definitive answer towards the "is cofee good or bad for you" question. Ultimately the answer is the same as with milk: Nobody REALLY knows, and the more you read and research, the less sure and more confused you get. A lot of people have very heavy beliefs one way or the other. I know I've seen reports of serious studies that conclude both good and bad things for coffee... from the usual acidic/dehydration/calcium-leeching stuff to stuff that says coffee enhances workout intensity, protects against cavities and reduces the risk of heart disease. No matter which way you want to lean you'll find way more than enough evidence to support either 'good' or 'bad' claims... So in the end it's all down to your own responsibility of consuming it or not. I can tell you my own productivity is 200% when I have a good cup of coffee in me, I'm more creative, think faster, and can deal with problems more confidently. That is worth it to me.
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05-31-2009, 12:30 PM	#47
John Blaisdale Active Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 61 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Is coffee good or bad for you? I don't see it adding any significant gain to your overall health. With that said, anything in moderation can be good to some extent.
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