kayvee

Hi there,

I never had any bad experiences in school and enjoyed my time there.

But something about the way our school system is setup just seems inefficient and flawed.

We learned many things. But here are some of the important ingredients of success that school and university did not teach us.

-Money Management
-Time Management

We were various subjects, but no teacher I can remember directly mentioned anything about belief in ones self, persistence, confidence and other traits that make an individual successful.

In university I studied business. But we never taught how to make money.

I one took a course called Personal Finance. It mentioned the different type of shares and stocks and gave us their definitions. It never taught us how to make money using the stock market for example.

I could go on…

But I wanted to know if anyone has any experience or views on home-schooling.

When I have children I would like to have them home-schooled.

What are the pros and cons?

Post your thoughts and views below.

Matt Jutras

Well, here in America they don't teach us how to make money because the government depends on wage slaves for tax money.

And the government runs the school system.

Go figure.

I suspect it's the same way in Canada...since both of our countries depend on the theft of it's citizens.

I'd say home school them...just make sure you give them enough outside activities to keep them socially active.

kayvee

I went to school in Dubai, UAE. we were taught based on the IGCSE British system.

Went to college there too. And went to university in Canada.

danmiranda

Homeschooling? Nah.

With that being said, it does upset me to know that the United States government is in control of everything I learn. What if there is a piece of information they are holding back from us? What if there are things that are left unsaid? Maybe I just have a conspiracy theory type of thing going on, but I feel like there is a lot of history I'm not learning.

kayvee

I spoke to 2 people who said homeschooling was working great for them.

These were parents I spoke to. I asked them about the social aspect of homeschooling.

Does homeschooling provide the same opportunities for meeting different people and developing social skills, and they told me yes.

They would organize trips with other homeschoolers and plan sporting events.

I never got the children's perspective though

Maureen

The major flaw with public schooling is that its "one size fits all". When in reality there is more than one way humans learn. Yet we are all expected to follow the same system.

Education should focus on our individual gifts and areas of interest and enhance them. Many hundreds of children fall through the cracks and are then called learning disabled. Where they are just as smart and intelligent but learn in a different way and would excel instead of fail if taught in that certain way.

The public school system needs to be able to accommodate all ways of learning. The present system fosters insecurity and self doubt in many children.

We are highly individual, we just don't all fit into the same learning game. There is lots of evidence coming out now that there could be 8 different ways of learning. And children who were failing in the regular one size fits all system are now thriving and excelling when taught in a manner that fits them and they can comprehend and understand.

Home schooling allows you to tailor to the individual. Notice where your child excels and is drawn to and develop that in your child. Notice how your child learns in these excel areas and help the child apply that same method to areas he or she struggles with. Everyone is gifted in different areas. You still learn all your subjects but homeschool allows you to see how your child best learns to succeed and excel. This builds belief within the child, builds self confidence and self esteem, and self worth. Teaches the child the feeling of success.

It's sad to see hundreds of children failing when they are so very bright if put into this system instead of that one.

Maureen

Edgar Moreno

I would have to say that I would recommend public school or even private school over home schooling. A person cannot socialize at home the same they would in a public environment.

Friend making and all that good stuff, learning to stand up for themselves can't be taught as effectively than in a public environment. Then again these school shootings are a little too common in the news these days.

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I personally think that home-schooling is a great system for Academic Learning. You can go at your Own pace, therefore, you make time effective. You get less distractions than if you were in an actual school. You only go on when feeling sure about what you learnt. You can grow as BIG as you want ;P. Thats why its better than school teaching... yes, you are right, here comes the BUT.
BUT! (told you it was coming) you can't replace VITAL Non-Academic knowledge when studying at home. Unless you plan to have a Home-Buissness, you probably wont survive much in the "Outer" world. Im sure you develop your communication skills at home, but its TOTALLY different a house environment, than a school one. School gives you a lot of experience, in and out of classrooms, aside intelectual experience. It is VITAL for a student to learn all this social dynamics, so that he/she can be a Functional part of society in the future. And that reason alone is enough to keep the good old system up, but if you ask me, id try to make it a little more "individualized", so that students can grow as much as they can.

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kayvee

Funny story...

I went for a Tony Robbins seminar in Halifax, Canada.

He told us that even as a youngster he loved to talk and meet people and converse with them.

He was in class one day and was as usual chatting away. One of his teachers who was fed up with him came up to him and told him:

Something to the effect of, "Anthony...talking will not get you anywhere in life..son..you are heading towards a life of failure"

Years later, Anthony had a chance to meet that teacher. He went up to him and told him:

"Do you remember what you told me in high school...how talking wouldn't benefit me....well it seems you were wrong..lol"

Sometimes adults (teachers, parents, guardians) in their frustration may say things which
may crush a child's dreams.

Matthew T. Gammett

Well as for home schooling goes I have a couple of things to say about it.

Some guy in the waking life movie (Which is an inspirational MUST SEE by the way) said that most of human experience and motivational experience at that is driven by one of either 2 things FEAR or LAZINESS.

When I was home schooled my mother did not discipline me.

I played video games for an entire summer and semester and missed out vital social development.

Had my mother Gotten a little gusto I think I would have fared much better in home school. ALL humans have this wonderful potential for creation. It has been a very recent thing to actually believe in myself. Coming to the warrior forum has helped me out. Now I am in a kind of home school thing but I'm DRIVEN and ready for success and more and more every day I am beginning to believe in myself.

I think home school could go either way it's up to the man/women with a plan and what he/she does with it. If they even do anything at all.

kayvee

You can definitely discipline someone either by instilling fear in them or by love and guidance.

I think the latter works better.

t!

I did home schooling for 5 years.

my wife is a teacher.

I'm a certified genius and have taught 1000s of people.

Home schooling is a flawed model, it does not work, I will not take the time to give details.

If you want to know what works read marcus aurelius meditations; he says it in the fist page.

John Blaisdale

In terms of education, in my opinion, home schooling would be the better choice. I myself went to public school so I don't have experience with home schooling but I definitely think that it would be much better in terms of education. I think that in order for education to be truly effective, each student needs to be taught on an individual level at which they may learn at their own rate.

With that said, home schooling deprives the student of "normal" social interactions found in public schools. So, in order to make sure that the student doesn't lack in social development I would make sure to surround them with social activities.

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Emily Meeks

The public school system's flawed, there's no doubt about that. I suggest reading "Inside American Education" by Thomas Sowell. The basic premise of the book is, the education system teaches people how to perpetuate its system.

Unfortunately, that doesn't mean homeschooling is better. Now, homeschooling, done right, can do wonders for your children. Time at home, time to teach quality material, more control over social activities. However, if you don't know what you're doing, your children won't take it seriously and won't feel a sense of stability. Take my case for example.

I was in kindergarten for awhile. My memory's a little fuzzy but next thing I knew, I wasn't going back to school anymore. My parents never had a plan or curriculum for us, so we basically did whatever the hell we wanted. Sure, we studied... after we were begged to. (My dad was always at work and my mom was never really an authority figure.) Went to school for third grade, didn't learn a damn thing (as it was the school's opening year, they were just as disorganized as my parents were). Homeschooled again, back to public school a year ahead, repeated a grade for no reason (my grades were fine, it was my mom's friend's "genius" idea to repeat 7th grade in a new school so I'd "fit in" better... don't get me started)... in and out of homeschooling, that's how it was till I graduated high school.

Didn't help I didn't have the best relationship with my parents, either.

In a nutshell, if you plan to homeschool your kids you MUST have a plan. Homeschooling can be great, but it's very easy to f@!% up if you don't know what you're doing. It's definitely not for everyone.

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Matthew T. Gammett

Yes!

Exactly love and guidance!

Your implication is wonderful.

Fear is the memory of pain and desire is the memory of pleasure.

The in between will reveal the truth.

genieofwealth

i wouldn't go for home schooling normally however here in the UK they are trying to push that if your kids don't have their immunisation jabs (24 before the age of 2) then they will not allow you into state schools.

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Hunter06

My wife has been home schooling our 2 children for the past 3 years so we have a pretty good idea about what works and what doesn't.

The success or failure in home schooling depends to a large degree on the motivation of the parents as well as the skills they bring to the table. Teaching your own children is not easy, especially if you are not a trained teacher. It takes a huge amount of time to prepare lessons, learn effective teaching skills and maintain discipline.

Although not convinced that it was the best form of schooling for my children, I supported my wife in our decision. The results have been brilliant to say the least. It has brought us closer together as a family, the children are happy, contented, well adjusted and intelligent.

The first thing that anyone who discovers that they are home schooled asks is; "but what about socialisation?". To answer this briefly, they are able to relate to adults, children of all ages as well as animals in a respectful, caring manner and are not afraid to disagree or debate or ask questions on any topic.

On being assessed by an experienced primary school principle, she was delighted by their abilities across the full spectrum of behaviours and skills. She remarked on their ability to play and interact with the other children present, even very young babies.

What I'm trying to get across is that depending on what you are prepared to put in you will get out in buckets. Our children are our most precious resource and the politicisation of schooling in many countries has meant that the quality of schooling has dropped with larger numbers in classes and teachers being forced to adhere to methods and curriculums that are either inappropriate or obsolete.

With so much wrong with public schooling, taking responsibility for your childrens' education by home schooling is one way to ensure that they enjoy the best possible learning experience.

There are plenty of resources on home schooling on the internet. Bear in mind too, that the modern school system has only been around for a hundred years or so. And don't allow others to brow beat you into their way of thinking. Keep an open mind and research what's available.

morry

I'd love to see a fully privatised school system because I think the current systems are pretty average. That being said, I don't know if I'd want to homeschool any future kids of mine since there are loads of other things I'd rather do.

I do think it's good for kids to go out and learn to fend for themselves in an environment like school though.

kayvee

"Fear is the memory of pain and desire is the memory of pleasure."

Wow...I love that quote Mathew

kayvee

"but what about socialisation?". To answer this briefly, they are able to relate to adults, children of all ages as well as animals in a respectful, caring manner and are not afraid to disagree or debate or ask questions on any topic.

Thats an excellent reason right there. Lesser effect of the herd mentality. And they retain their individuality to a greater degree. And one thing that (in my humble opinion) that public school kills is the ability for critical thinking.

They say that from age 0-7 children are just sponges....they are simply learning from their environment with little understanding of what is right or wrong.

mixelplik

My wife and I have decided to homeschool our kids. They are both of preschool age and my wife and I are both writers (she was a substitute teacher for a little while). We both have bad memories of public school and don't wish to subject our little girls to that kind of torment. I don't want my daughters being herded through a system that will never appreciate their efforts as much as their male classmates. I particularly don't want my daughters being objectified and marginalized as we tend to do with young girls in this society.

I'm not interested in all of that. We travel and we have portable jobs. I don't want a school system dictating to me where and when I can take my children. My kids aren't line items in a budget and I will not allow them to be treated as such.

kayvee

Hi mixelplik,

I admire your decision. Perhaps if you document your progress and what you have learnt you can help people by creating a product...ebook...videos course..or membership site.

Tell people what to do, mistakes to avoid and so on.

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Clint

I took home schooling for about a year when the teachers were failing me. I then found I was only time me and my mom never had a good relationship. Sometimes I wish my homeschooling last more than just a year and maybe somehow myrelationship with her mother would be different.

as for his public schools being flawed. I 100% agree

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I know several people that home school and their kids are way ahead of my kid in private school. So who knows.
My ex would never agree to homeschooling but I would love to try it a few years.

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kckaz

We home schooled our daughters for sophomore and junior years, but let them go to school for their senior year so the could graduate with a class and have reunions to look forward too if they wanted.

It was a lot of work. But, they learned a lot of basic how-to-live lessons they wouldn't get in school. We traveled a lot too which helped them learn different things and gave us freedom too as parents. There are many things they can do to get the social activities and without some of the bad influences in public school. They could see friends during after-school activities, join clubs, athletics, music. I think our kids would have preferred public school, but they were headed down a path and we needed to intervene.

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kayvee

You are right kckaz

Sometimes children don't know whats best for them...and parents have to be there for guidance or to intervene.

CDarklock

One of the reasons I'm here is that I've recently become a stay-at-home dad, because my wife simply refuses to be a homeschool teacher. She demanded that since our oldest son is five, and should be going to school, she gets to resume her career now and if I want the kids homeschooled I can do it my damn self.

I hated school with an absolute passion, both public and private, and will do pretty much anything to keep my kids out of the public education system.

kayvee

Thats admirable...I wish you success. Even if you get to teach them until the age of 14 or 15 thats great. Hopefully they would have developed alot of good qualities by then and would be able to handle spending their next few years in the public school system or university

WarriorMaster82

Yeah, home schooling can really mess up your kids social life...

Audrey Harvey

Latest research from where I live is that 30% of children aged 9-13 are bullied at school. I'd rather not have that environment for my kids.

I've been homeschooling my two for four years now. They're 7 and 9. We've just come back from a weekend camping trip, and I don't know how many adults commented on how sociable and interesting they are to chat to, and how polite they are.

Academically they're leagues ahead of their school peers. Socially, they're doing just fine with activities with our network of 95 local homeschooling families. They're not into brand names, they don't want a mobile phone, and they aren't swayed by advertising. If they have conflict with a friend, or a child at Girl Guides or Boy Scouts, we work out strategies to resolve it, so they're learning negotiating and relationship skills, rather than just having to wing it on their own.

They're also learning a bit about business, and have their own video product and domain name under development.

I haven't seen anything yet from our education department that makes me think they'd be better off in school.

I do agree that it's not for everyone, and so much depends on the parent. I have a friend who homeschools her children, and she's doing a dreadful job. I dread to think of what's going to happen to them in the future.

Many people comment on homeschooling and don't have any personal experience or knowledge about it. You'll find research and statistics to prove whatever viewpoint you want to take. Suffice it to say that it's working very well for our family, and I don't plan on changing anything.

kayvee

Wow...its great that they are learning money management and how to make money from such a young age.