All these 'gurus' dismissing hard work?...

Interesting !!!
Anybody begins by the hard work and it's with a time that we understand the 80/20 principles.
We need to make many mistakes to advance: it's like that we earn experiences.
Many artists (or rappers) finish like Dr Dre or 2pac (RIP)...
If the poverty is a good way to stimulate or it's a big "WHY" to escape it, why not?! ;-)

Mindset is important.

Belief is important.

Your example of rappers and sports stars who have grown up in poverty and still have a mindset of poverty is wrong.

The youth who are following these idols do believe in success and that they can find a way out of poverty whatever that route may be.

It would have been hardest for those that became successful before there were examples for them to model or aspire to.

If anything the young rapper has more belief in success than many people with silver spoons in their mouths.

From a personal perspective a belief in an outcome will always guide the decision making towards achieving that outcome.

I do speak from experience in this regards having set World records when I was 15 - 16 - 17 - 31 - 37 years old.

In fact I still hold a world record for the furthest anyone has thrown anything.
You can check that here:
Success starts with mindset.

I was explaining today to a client how when I was working on one particular record I set in 1998 I used to focus on mental picture of a letterbox (mailbox) that was 100 metres away from me. It had a mail slot.

All I had to do was post the letter in the slot.

In the moment all I did was take my mind to the point where I was posting the letter.

That record got me in Sports Illustrated and I closed the Today show with Katy Couric and Matt Lauer by throwing a boomerang around Rockefeller Plaza.

Any success always starts in the mind.

You have to believe to succeed.

If you get lucky ONCE then you will always wonder why.

Once you can REPEAT success you understand why.

To all your success.

Best regards,

Ozi

Anyone who says that the route is success is one without hardwork, failures, pain and sorrow is lying to you.

Life is uncertain except death,taxes as well as failures. Many people forget this last part. hehe.

There's a wonderful story in the book You2 (you squared) by Price Pritchett. The idea that we have to work ridiculously hard to achieve success is a limiting paradigm.


The story is about a fly in a window. There is a life and death situation at hand. The fly is doing everything in its power to bust through the window to get to the outside world he seeks. Only a few feet away is an open door that he could easily fly out of, however, the fly believes that with hard work and perseverance, he will accomplish his goal. The fly will end up dying in the window sill.


Working harder is not always the answer. In fact, hard work alone will get you no where. Sometimes we feel that if we just worked a little harder, we'd do a whole lot better. This isn't true. The quality of your life is determined by the quality of questions you ask.


Develop a relationship with the Infinite and learn that there is an answer to everything. It's not about working harder, it's about awareness. People don't make 50k a year because they want to, they make 50k a year because they aren't aware of how to make 500k a year. There is nothing that sets us apart from Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Oprah Winfrey, Steve Jobs, etc. We were ALL born with the gifts and tools necessary to live an abundant life.


So, back to the quality of questions... Here's an example:


"How can I take 2 weeks off of work without losing any pay?"
vs
"How can I take 2 weeks off of work in south France and make 10k doing so?"


It doesn't take any more effort to ask the 2nd question. It doesn't take any more effort to expect success or expect poverty. It's all a matter of perspective. You've got to ask the Universe the right questions. Life does not have to be hard, and there are TONS of people making a ton of money that don't work hard and actually didn't even work hard to get there to begin with.


Now, it also depends on your perspective of what working hard really means. I have horses, and I move hay and feed and "work hard" to many people. They are in awe of the work it takes to have horses and take care of them yourself. However, this is not hard work to me at all. I love my horses, and it never seems like hard work to keep them in my life (even thought I don't exactly have the budget).


If you want success, then you must change your perspective on hard work, but also realize that hard work alone is not the answer.

A Good Mindset + Hard work leads to success.


Like Mark Cuban talked about working harder and learning more than your competition. Hard work alone doesn't lead to succes. There are alot of hard working poor people in the world. Learning without hard work also doesn't lead to success. There are lot of unsuccessful lazy smart people. You need to work hard and learn alot.


Also not all poor people have a poverty mindset. There are also poor people that have a good mindset and work hard to become successful. There also sporters that where poor, but with hard work, discipline, willpower became successful.

Something important to remember is that they believed in themselves. (And were willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish their dreams.) If you have the mindset that you can't accomplish your Entrepreneurial dreams it will definitely hinder your progress.

Believing in yourself is half the battle (IMO).

Related post: http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...s-mindset.html

Good point. Although I think "hard work" is important, I think it's equally (if not more so) important to work smart. A person could spend 3 years working hard however if they're not working on the right things it will take them longer to succeed.

this is a great example.. how about the large number of these athletes and musicians that end up with no money shortly after they stop selling records or sto playing sports..

these people are not building businesses..they are highly pain employees in very huge businesses ..

with athletes especially..much of their hard work is pushed on them by coaches and training staff..peer pressure from other players..its not alway personal motivation to work hard ..

Skills first and foremost. Hard work, belief, reading goals, etc. it is all good, but nothing replaces skills #1 followed by smart work.

Once I learned how to make money online, i.e. primarily traffic generation, the rest has been pretty easy. I don't need anything else, I just need to use my skills in the right way and the rest falls into place.

Two things.

First on the subject,
These 'gurus' are meeting us in our heads It's the story we want to hear else we will not buy. Who will buy a product that requires 8-10 hours or hard work a day to succeed?

The real gurus may tell you the truth after you buy. Else we will not even take the first step to their inner circle had they no do it this way. So they are helping us by lying to us.

Second,
All true! The correct Mindset and Beliefs are critical.

If you think money is evil, your mind will naturally reject money or people with money etc.
But if you think money can help you do good etc., then that's different. You will easily wholeheartedly embrace it.

To be honest, money is just a thing, it's neutral -- it's us that give it meaning and interpretation depending on our beliefs.

You cannot imagine how much negative talk we have until you pay real attention to your self-talk. I did and was amaze at what I was telling myself and how I managed to counter it (with the years of personal growth . Without training, you naturally are dead meat to your own negative self-talk.

Don't fall into the believe that they have a Poverty Mindset and succeeded. They may have that before they succeeded or growing up, but had to change to a Success Mindset in order to succeed like anyone else.

If they still have the Poverty Mindset, they will be back to that every soon as their success will be a flute. They did not build themselves up to be worthy of the success. Many fall victims to that once they retire and overspending on their lifestyles etc.

Give you a simple analogy. If your self-image (i.e. belief) is that you are a fit and healthy person. Imaging if your medical checkup or your weighing scale tells you that you are fat and unhealthy. You will not be comfortable, and will naturally do whatever it takes to be fit and healthy, your belief/mindset is set to that. Same goes for being in poverty or rich.

So to be rich, you must set your mindset (your internal thermostat) to rich. Else it will fall.

One other thing, their Whys were so strong that made them successful. The 80%. 20% is the How.

There is a HUGE difference between true 'HARD work' and simply 'OVERWORKING'. This has been a big lesson I have had to learn in my entrepreneurs journey, because I achieved great success early on, but did not stop to appreciate it all & have a little fun. My entire life became obsessed with work, I wanted to do nothing else. That is not what life is about, you need to find balance, and appreciate the time we have here, and enjoy the ride. That's the bottom line, period.