Internal Success > External Success

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Greetings Warriors,

I want to dissect internal success (happiness, self improvement) and external success (money, opportunity) with an example based on the last two years of my career....

In 2007, I didn't make much money nor did I have any breakthrough success. In fact, many of my ventures resulted in failure. But that didn't seem to bother me because...

I had extremely high energy levels and laser-targeted focus toward my goals regardless of my external circumstances. I would wake up and spring out of bed naturally with no alarm clock after just 4-5 hours of sleep (average sleep period was 2:00am-6:30am) and hop right onto the computer and go to work. I loved what I did and kept that high energy level throughout the entire day, everyday.

I swear there wasn't a moment where I didn't feel good. I had total thought control and was constantly in a positive state. Again, no breakthrough success and hardly any money coming in...

But the tables turned in 2008 when my income increased exponentially. I saw more opportunity than I've ever seen in my life. I had mulitple successful business ventures, achieved alot of my goals from the previous year and people offering me marketing positions at their companies (which I gladly accepted).

So here I am with the money & success I've yearned for...but I'd developed this dark and cloudy feeling in my head...

I couldn't control my thoughts any longer and my brain went back to being on auto-pilot. I slept much more than I used to and woke up tired (average sleep period 2:30am-9:00am). I lost that spark that I had the previous year. All of that positivity and mental power started to collaspe and I didn't feel like I had any control over my life anymore... But the money was great! I got everything I ever wanted.

There's no question what the difference between the two years were. One year I reached an optimum level of inner peace yet lacked the green stuff. The next year I lost my mental focus but made lots of money. If I could only choose one way of living...Guess which one I'd choose? (I'm living it now )

Warriors,

What's your take on internal success vs. external success?

I guess it's good to find a balance as with the yin and the yang.
#> #external #internal #success
  • Profile picture of the author KCMindGeek
    So you lost your focus because you reached your goal (the money)? Did I understand that right? I guess that means we need to always have goals to look forward to... once you achieve one goal, you need to have another one to look forward to, to keep you motivated. That's what I got from your story anyway... am I way off base?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ryan Dodson
      Originally Posted by KCMindGeek View Post

      So you lost your focus because you reached your goal (the money)? Did I understand that right? I guess that means we need to always have goals to look forward to... once you achieve one goal, you need to have another one to look forward to, to keep you motivated. That's what I got from your story anyway... am I way off base?
      You're in the ballpark.

      In simple terms, I'd devoted all my time towards making money and didn't maintain my personal development (with goal-setting being included).
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    • Profile picture of the author Nereah
      Originally Posted by KCMindGeek View Post

      So you lost your focus because you reached your goal (the money)? Did I understand that right? I guess that means we need to always have goals to look forward to... once you achieve one goal, you need to have another one to look forward to, to keep you motivated. That's what I got from your story anyway... am I way off base?
      You must always set goals achieve one and move to the other otherwise if you achieve without setting others that is when you start asking what next?
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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    Ryan, this is such an interesting post. My experience of peace and fulfillment is that it comes outside of worldly things. Money is noisy and tends to upset the spiritual peace, which is probably what you are referring to as internal success.

    Because of the noise those intent on making money at all costs pay a hefty price. That is their thoughts are no longer free so they become confused, depressed and unmotivated. That is they loose the spark.
    So here I am with the money & success I've yearned for...but I'd developed this dark and cloudy feeling in my head...

    I couldn't control my thoughts any longer and my brain went back to being on auto-pilot. I slept much more than I used to and woke up tired (average sleep period 2:30am-9:00am). I lost that spark that I had the previous year. All of that positivity and mental power started to collaspe and I didn't feel like I had any control over my life anymore... But the money was great! I got everything I ever wanted.
    The happiest people are generally the poorest. They seek little of the world and enjoy their inner peace in the simplicity of their lives.

    Money is dark because it is anti-spirit. That why you describe it as a cloudy feeling in your head. You are no longer connected to the inner voice.

    You need to find a middle path so that you can earn a living but don't aim too high and try to reestablish that connection to the Spirit.

    God bless
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    • Profile picture of the author vicone
      Ryan,

      I'd like to offer a different perspective.

      Firstly, spiritual purity does not equate with poverty, nor is happiness to be found only in sackcloth and ashes.

      I've met many who were absolutely blissful on their return from a luxury sea cruise and I've known others who trembled when they heard a knock at the door or the telephone ring, expecting further demands from their creditors.

      Someone that I've known for many years is presently attending a six day religious retreat. When she is not meditating and chanting, she is one of the most miserable people alive; her own sister wouldn't invite her to Xmas lunch with the rest of her family because of the negativity she brings and most of her "friends" avoid her for the same reason. At the same time, she is caring and generous, spending much of her time counseling the families of drug addicts. Her many qualities are appreciated but few wish to spend much time in her company.

      Those I know who are consistently happy tend to pay far more attention to the things they want in life - thoughts in harmony with who they really are. They appreciate the beauty of a rose and tend to overlook the thorns; they enjoy the fragrance of wild jasmine without being too concerned about its spread; they enjoy the luxury and comfort of a new car, a new house, or a new swimming pool without feeling guilty; they enjoy the company of others without needing to control and influence those around them.

      The most miserable people I know pay a lot more attention to those things in their lives which they don't want - they are problem focused. They are far more alert to the dangers which surround them and what is likely to go wrong; when they look at a garden they are conscious of the amount of work required for its upkeep; they are keenly aware of what has to be done to impress and win the approval of others; taking an expensive holiday is almost a guarantee that their luggage will be lost and much of the time will be spent in bed recovering from a digestive upset.

      In short, happiness is something you bring to the table; it has little to do with being rich or poor and a lot to do with whether those things that occupy your attention arouse positive feelings within, such as joy, kindness, gratitude, personal satisfaction, and appreciation of yourself, your activities and the world around you.

      There are many who hold limiting beliefs which cut them off from joy in certain areas. For instance, societies which value small feet in women and, as a consequence, bind the feet of young girls so that, despite maturity, their feet will remain small though crippled. In such a society, for a woman to have normal size feet would arouse feelings of guilt and embarrassment.

      This would be akin to a society which considered the unfettered use of two legs to be sinful and that individuals ought to show pious restraint and hop on one leg. Those who follow this convention win social approval and those "wild" things who run freely attract scorn.

      Limiting beliefs are human inventions and have little to do with spirituality or inherent "goodness". As well, limitations which are fear-based are sometimes recommended by those who regard self-denial to be a virtue. This unnecessarily closes off many options. Thoughts which evoke fear are at best considered suspect. Those thoughts which arouse good feelings indicate a better path to follow.

      Ryan, success in the second year of your business activities was likely the result of the work you joyfully undertook during the first year. Momentum built up during that year which started to come to fruition during the second year. However, your attention then began to shift so that the things you were focusing on were no longer in harmony with what you really wanted and those inner positive feelings didn't resonate in the same way or to the same extent that you had experienced earlier. You missed those feelings and started to feel lost without them.

      I expect you've taken steps to reclaim them and are now paying more attention to matters that you do find rewarding. It isn't about being rich or poor but connecting with who you really are.

      Ryan, simply be true to yourself. Run and walk with joy. Don't hop.

      Ivan
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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    Vivone,
    Someone that I've known for many years is presently attending a six day religious retreat. When she is not meditating and chanting, she is one of the most miserable people alive; her own sister wouldn't invite her to Xmas lunch with the rest of her family because of the negativity she brings and most of her "friends" avoid her for the same reason. At the same time, she is caring and generous, spending much of her time counseling the families of drug addicts. Her many qualities are appreciated but few wish to spend much time in her company.
    Spiritual people are rarely religious. The two conflict in their outlooks and relationship with the Spirit. I know many religious people who snobbishly think they alone can talk to God or be saved.

    Religion requires an outward presence, such as rituals, buildings, icons, costumes and so on. The spiritual usually have no outward show because their pleasure and connection is from within.

    I think you have confused the two while Ryan appears to have understood the difference.
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    • Profile picture of the author ic7
      Two of my goals are:

      1) Continue to be my own boss
      2) Empower people to live positive lives

      These goals really keep me going. I don't think I'll ever lose interest in them. And money doesn't need to harm your happiness. Too much or too little. I think we can all be the boss of our own minds, our own happiness.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Dodson
    Anymore insight into this discussion would be great. I know it's been a while since it was posted, but I think it deserves a bump
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  • Profile picture of the author lizziehumphreys
    Hi,

    Sorry about posting here but I do hope you get this message!

    I haven't got enough posts to reply to your PM but if you email me at elisabethelaine@live.co.uk, I can discuss things further with you.

    Thanks,

    Lizzie.
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    Joy, balance, or, whatever you want to call it comes in different forms for different people. Money can get to some people when you know everyone depends on you for everything. The pressure to take care of your extended family(employees), as well as friends, family, and, your own lifestyle that you've grown accustomed to can be stressful. On the other hand, there are people who thrive in the most extreme enviroments. It is a matter of your own thought process. We are all different.
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  • Profile picture of the author easyrider7
    We need the following things to be happy:
    1. Know God and feel closely connected to him.
    2. A sense of purpose in life.
    3. Goals that stretch us, especially in relation to our purpose.
    4. Experience of success along the way.
    5. A sense of contribution - that we are making a difference to those we serve.
    6. Human companionship and love.

    Money is far from the most important thing, but we do need a sufficient amount of it to be happy. I don't agree that it is anti-spirit. What Ryan may have found is that he thought money was the thing he most wanted in life and was really energised in his quest to get it. But once he achieved his money-goals he realised that money didn't give him the satisfaction that he thought it would. This then could have caused him to lose his drive.
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  • Profile picture of the author stopper
    Happiness indeed is not tethered to povety nor riches to misery. Lot of old was one of the wealthiest men of his time and was happy before the afflictions. Abraham might as well have been a billionaire with over 2700 people under his home stewardship. Both men enjoyed happiness.
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  • Profile picture of the author Afreidman
    Hello Friend,

    Well to tell you the truth your question is the number 1# thing that I am constantly working towards.

    I think sometimes pushing ourselves full force to make money without listening to ourselves, is something that happens a lot when you are trying to get out of the rat race.

    When I'm able to work as much as I want and not Need, when I'm able to listen to myself and not work 14 hours a day.

    When I'm making money but I still have a rich inner life.

    I am truly happy.

    But, I don't think you have to choose one for the other. The goal is to find true balance between the inner and outer.

    Which is, in itself a whole life's work.

    Enjoy your journey
    Ari
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