[Reality Check] You Got What It Takes to be RICH??

13 years ago

I once spent a week down in Costa Rica with Calvin Ayres. It was the same week that he was on the cover of Forbes' billionaire issue. After spending a week with him, I realized that it is possible for anybody to be a billionaire! He is certainly not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[ 1 ] Thanks

Signature

Founder of JVZoo. All around good guy :)

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839818].message }}

Mangozoom

13 years ago

Long story short ... yes I do.

I am already making a GOOD living with my own fulltime online business (what I call a Mercedes lifestyle).

The goal is too look after my wife and kids period!

I dont need anyones permission to succeed ... neither does anyone on this forum. Just put in the work, be smart and you'll do it.

John

[ 2 ] Thanks
2 replies

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839822].message }}

sal64

13 years ago

I have everything it takes... except the cash.

Thanks
2 replies

Signature

Internet Marketing: 20% Internet - 80% Marketing!
You Won't See The Light Until You Open Your Eyes.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839834].message }}

tecHead

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sal64

I have everything it takes... except the cash.

...actually.. from my experience; the Internet (esp. the current Internet) is rapidly disproving the age old adage ...

... gotta spend money to make money...

If you look hard enough, you can find just about everything you need to get started, for free.

PLP

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Learn Everything You Need to Know About CryptoCurrencies
Automation is the primary conduit to successful relaxation

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839856].message }}

sal64

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tecHead

...actually.. from my experience; the Internet (esp. the current Internet) is rapidly disproving the age old adage ...

... gotta spend money to make money...

If you look hard enough, you can find just about everything you need to get started, for free.

PLP

actually... I was referring to having the $1bill.

Frankly, I'm happy with less and enjoying life.

Thanks

Signature

Internet Marketing: 20% Internet - 80% Marketing!
You Won't See The Light Until You Open Your Eyes.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839913].message }}

Alina Thompson 13 years ago

Lol acc to the article, most Billionaires were born in September...So am I, excluding the billionaire part!
- Thanks
- 1 reply
Signature
Have I helped you in any Way? Then Please press the Thanks button. It Motivates me to help you more LOL;)
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839914].message }}
- tecHead 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by LetsGoViral
  
  Luck has a huge role, too. Luck to be born at the specific time in the specific country and being at the specific location.
  
  I'll agree with that...
  
  Originally Posted by jan roos
  
  Nah I don't have what it takes to be a billionaire. Only things I have that counts is that I am a male and live in California.
  
  HA
  
  Jan
  
  lol... its Biggie and Tupac all over again, according to Forbes.
  
  I'm East Coast born and raised; went to Cali "once" and refuse to go back unless its unavoidably necessary...
  
  Originally Posted by sal64
  
  actually... I was referring to having the $1bill.
  
  Frankly, I'm happy with less and enjoying life.
  
  oh, ok... I hear you about simple living... but, I think I'd still lean towards the Bill...
  
  Originally Posted by flower16
  
  Lol acc to the article, most Billionaires were born in September...So am I, excluding the billionaire part!
  
  lol.. ya slacker! :p
  
  Thanks
  
  Signature
  Learn Everything You Need to Know About CryptoCurrencies
  Automation is the primary conduit to successful relaxation
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839939].message }}

John Romaine

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mangozoom

Long story short ... yes I do.

I am already making a GOOD living with my own fulltime online business (what I call a Mercedes lifestyle).

The goal is too look after my wife and kids period!

I dont need anyones permission to succeed ... neither does anyone on this forum. Just put in the work, be smart and you'll do it.

John

John, hope you dont mind me asking, but how long have you been doing this now?

Thanks

Signature

BS free SEO services, training and advice - SEO Point

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840397].message }}

LetsGoViral

13 years ago

Luck has a huge role, too. Luck to be born at the specific time in the specific country and being at the specific location.

Thanks
2 replies

Signature

Time of thinking is over.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839862].message }}

E. Brian Rose

13 years ago

Originally Posted by LetsGoViral

Luck has a huge role, too. Luck to be born at the specific time in the specific country and being at the specific location.

Oh man, you sound like my mother! I grew up in Massachusetts, where they indoctrinate you into thinking that only lucky people make the big bucks. Soooo not true!

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Founder of JVZoo. All around good guy :)

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839925].message }}

LetsGoViral

13 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

Oh man, you sound like my mother! I grew up in Massachusetts, where they indoctrinate you into thinking that only lucky people make the big bucks. Soooo not true!

But it's the truth. I mean, sure statistically speaking you increase your chances DRAMATICALLY by action, but in the end there is no guarantee that you will be billionaire or even a millionaire. It takes more than a lot of effort to reach THAT level.

Also, regarding being born in September, I think there is a reason for this. All the top athletes where also born in September and early months. Why? Because when the team trainers come to seek out potential candidates, they look for the fastest, strongest and most skillful in the specific age group. If you are born in September you will be in the same age group that a person born in the June of the same year, but you will have 6 months advantage, so you will be chosen instead of him. Then you will be exposed to better training which will even further boost your sports.

He is just as skillful, only unlucky. Maybe it is similar for business.

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Time of thinking is over.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839959].message }}

Lee Wilson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by LetsGoViral

But it's the truth. I mean, sure statistically speaking you increase your chances DRAMATICALLY by action, but in the end there is no guarantee that you will be billionaire or even a millionaire. It takes more than a lot of effort to reach THAT level.

Also, regarding being born in September, I think there is a reason for this. All the top athletes where also born in September and early months. Why? Because when the team trainers come to seek out potential candidates, they look for the fastest, strongest and most skillful in the specific age group. If you are born in September you will be in the same age group that a person born in the June of the same year, but you will have 6 months advantage, so you will be chosen instead of him. Then you will be exposed to better training which will even further boost your sports.

He is just as skillful, only unlucky. Maybe it is similar for business.

The only thing where luck might play a part is being lucky enough to be born with the right mindset.

True entrepreneurs make the most of luck when it's there. When it's not there it doesn't stop them. They are getting there with or without luck.
Everyone else lets luck pass them by, either not making the most of it, or not even realising it was there in the first place.

The only thing you really need is the right mindset and staminer to see it through. If you are born with that then you are lucky, if you aren't born with it - nothing stops us changing our ways.

Of course there is always bad luck but anyone is subject to that.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840120].message }}

OmarBriones 13 years ago

Originally Posted by LetsGoViral

Luck has a huge role, too. Luck to be born at the specific time in the specific country and being at the specific location.

Luck? What in the world is luck? :confused: Does anyone here know what that means? Cuz I don't have a clue.

(there's no such thing lol)
- Thanks
- 1 reply
Signature

Let' me know how I can support you...
facebook.com/OmarBriones
twitter.com/OmarBriones
youtube.com/OmarBriones77
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2841568].message }}
- JohnnyBGoode 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by OmarBriones
  
  Luck? What in the world is luck? :confused: Does anyone here know what that means? Cuz I don't have a clue.
  
  (there's no such thing lol)
  
  Luck is when you are born with the name Walton, or your parents sent you to Harvard, or you got a way cutting classes and play with machines later to be known as PCs, or your company got bought by the giants for a billion bucks, or your previous company that fired you, rehired you after Pixar.
  
  You can't force yourself to be a Walton or have parents who will send you to Harvard or get funded by the NIH to work with Craig Venter. There are luck involved.
  
  You can't create luck directly, but you can influence future events to produce more luck for you. For example, if you're 14 year old and reading this, you can choose to forget you ever heard of Adsense and Wordpress, turn off your computer, study like a maniac, get into Harvard and then to Wharton, get a part time job at Goldman Sachs, start business ventures in China, Russia, Brazil, India, know 1,000 investors, angels, venture capitalists around the world, I highly doubt in the future this person would be here in this forum asking how to make $4-5 writing articles and wso-ing.
  
  Thanks
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2841652].message }}

jan roos

13 years ago

Nah I don't have what it takes to be a billionaire. Only things I have that counts is that I am a male and live in California.

HA

Jan

Thanks

Signature

I'll teach you how to make money like a Mamba.

Sign up for the free money mambas newsletter!

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839880].message }}

Ron Douglas

13 years ago

None of you Warriors will ever be billionaires. I challenge you to prove me wrong.

[ 3 ] Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Ron Douglas, MBA, CFA, NY Times Best Selling Author, Making Money Online Since 2001

FREE Internet Marketing Tips | Secret Recipes | Nantucket | Buy Non-IM Solo Ads

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2839965].message }}

tecHead 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Douglas

None of you Warriors will ever be billionaires. I challenge you to prove me wrong.

I'll take you up on that dare... granted, it won't be only from online activities... but, that wasn't part of the criteria; was it?

PLP
- Thanks
- 1 reply
Signature
Learn Everything You Need to Know About CryptoCurrencies
Automation is the primary conduit to successful relaxation
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840025].message }}
- Ron Douglas 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tecHead
  
  I'll take you up on that dare... granted, it won't be only from online activities... but, that wasn't part of the criteria; was it?
  
  PLP
  
  However you can get there big homie
  
  Create with the mass market in mind and go public
  
  [ 1 ] Thanks
  
  Signature
  
  Ron Douglas, MBA, CFA, NY Times Best Selling Author, Making Money Online Since 2001
  
  FREE Internet Marketing Tips | Secret Recipes | Nantucket | Buy Non-IM Solo Ads
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840041].message }}

pianochris

13 years ago

Billionaires form Internet Marketing? Mmmm...Don't think there are. Sure maybe some 5 - 6 figure earners. The mindset is probably the same.

Thanks
5 replies

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840046].message }}

E. Brian Rose 13 years ago

Originally Posted by pianochris

Billionaires form Internet Marketing? Mmmm...Don't think there are. Sure maybe some 5 - 6 figure earners. The mindset is probably the same.

Actually, the guy that I spoke of earlier is a billionaire from online marketing.
- Thanks
Signature

Founder of JVZoo. All around good guy :)
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840048].message }}
LetsGoViral 13 years ago

Originally Posted by pianochris

Billionaires form Internet Marketing? Mmmm...Don't think there are. Sure maybe some 5 - 6 figure earners. The mindset is probably the same.

Facebook guy? Myspace guy? Google guys?

Don't tell me that's not marketing on the internet. Ads are a huge part of their business.
- Thanks
Signature
Time of thinking is over.
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840073].message }}
Rob Howard 13 years ago

Originally Posted by pianochris

Billionaires form Internet Marketing? Mmmm...Don't think there are. Sure maybe some 5 - 6 figure earners. The mindset is probably the same.

And 7 and 8 figure earners.

FatLoss4Idiots guy/girl/kid does something like 21 million a year.

I think that's a tad more than 6 figures.

Rob
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840140].message }}
Tyrus Antas 13 years ago

Originally Posted by pianochris

Billionaires form Internet Marketing? Mmmm...Don't think there are. Sure maybe some 5 - 6 figure earners. The mindset is probably the same.

I've heard about these two guys... Larry Page and Sergey Brin
who have done OK selling ads on their site!

Tyrus
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840161].message }}
Joshua Rigley Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by pianochris

Billionaires form Internet Marketing? Mmmm...Don't think there are. Sure maybe some 5 - 6 figure earners. The mindset is probably the same.

I hear Mark Zuckerberg is a billionaire. Something to do with facebook...
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840176].message }}

Joshua Rigley

Banned 13 years ago

Meh. Looked like a bunch on generalization to me. Nothing spectacular about a bunch of statistics, seeing as they don't apply to me anyway.

[ 1 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840136].message }}

oneplusone

13 years ago

One internet marketer using the CPA networks is making $71 million a month.

His bank even bought a 25% stake in his business.

Thanks

Signature

'If you hear a voice within you say "you cannot paint," then by all means paint and that voice will be silenced.' Vincent Van Gogh.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840190].message }}

bensmokey

13 years ago

LOL on facebook they are all 6-8 figure earners all know all the secrets all successful until you get to know them then the truth comes out. Way i look at it yeah the money would be nice but as long as you have your health and paying your bills anything else is a bonus. Keep reaching for the stars all who knows whats round the corner it could be you!

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840222].message }}

tecHead

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dean Whitter

Success is awarded to those that have the fortitude to stay the course.

This pretty much sums it up for me. Also one of my favorite quotes...

(another one; on a lighter note)... only 'cause I heard it again today...

Originally Posted by Ed Deline - Las Vegas

I'll bitch slap you so hard that your unborn children will come out well behaved.

Thanks

Signature

Learn Everything You Need to Know About CryptoCurrencies
Automation is the primary conduit to successful relaxation

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840367].message }}

Jay D

13 years ago

I have read this before. Btw it did tick me off too.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840375].message }}

JohnnyBGoode

13 years ago

From my own research of becoming a Billionaire, (excluding marrying billionaires, mindset, inheritance) you will need

-a background that helps you achieve such goal, this include, parents, university, and other privileges (the facebook, google, yahoo, microsoft guys share these privileges)

-time, a lot of time, not just in building the wealth for yourself but your previous generation spent a lot of time on that endeavor.

-hard work, lots and lots of hard work

-the right industry, (finance, big business) and its not just enough to be in the right industry, you have to be on TOP of that industry, or even build that very industry. (tech)

-luck, both from your previous life (parents, family got 'lucky' breaks) luck in your childhood, luck in your career and then all the luck you made possible while you're en route to building billions

-build business, go public

There are only a few billionaires and almost all of them got there not by desire, plan, or goal of becoming a billionaire. They got there because they came from a very privileged background, or a previous generation prepared them for it, or they just found themselves there after their business got a lot of value in the world market. Its not likely that anyone here would be billionaire. Perhaps a deca-millionaire or centi-millionaire would be a more appropriate and reachable goal.

There's a book I read from a billionaire, forgot the title, he said that if he could do it all over again, he'd stop at 60 million. The 'rich' lifestyle is the same as billionaire minus the headache, time commitment and responsibilities.

Personally, if the devil offer me a deal to make me a billionaire but give up one of my nuts, I'd say, take off both of them. I don't even need them. I'd throw in the penis just for bonus.

Thanks
2 replies

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840483].message }}

tecHead

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnnyBGoode

From my own research of becoming a Billionaire, (excluding marrying billionaires, mindset, inheritance) you will need

...
..

OK, although I appreciate your contribution to the thread... your generalizations and (to me) defeatist viewpoints kinda make my skin crawl.

I'm not going to argue with you; as you have every right to your opinions as the next person; BUT, I will present facts that are in direct contrast to your above statements...

Firstly, another article from Forbes...
The World's Richest Dropouts - Forbes.com

Secondly; from the above article, Larry Ellison (net worth $25bil in 2008) stands out...

Originally Posted by wikipedia

Larry Ellison was born in New York City to Florence Spellman, a 19-year-old unwed Jewish mother. At his mother's request, he was given to his mother's aunt and uncle in Chicago to raise. Lillian Spellman Ellison and Louis Ellison adopted him when he was nine months old. Ellison did not learn the name of his mother or meet her until he was 48; the identity of his father is unknown.

Certainly not a part of the demographic you stated are the only ones who are capable of acquiring billionaire status.

Although I can't agree that you can be born with it, I think L Wilson makes a very valid point regarding mind set..... Think & Grow Rich, IMHO.

Anyway... thanks for your insights.

PLP,
tecHead

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Learn Everything You Need to Know About CryptoCurrencies
Automation is the primary conduit to successful relaxation

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840815].message }}

JohnnyBGoode 13 years ago

Dropping out of an Ivy is nothing but the perfect outlier. The fact that one is at an Ivy League in the first place suggest a privileged background. Everything else that follows is nothing short of first class opportunities.

Larry Ellison was born in Manhattan, New York. Home of the most number of billionaires. What better privileged place to be born at other than New York City? Actually, even better, born in the 1940s, putting him at an age perfect (along with Gates, Jobs, Allen, Balmer) for an industry that would produce many Titans.
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2840870].message }}

excuzemee

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnnyBGoode

From my own research of becoming a Billionaire, (excluding marrying billionaires, mindset, inheritance) you will need

-a background that helps you achieve such goal, this include, parents, university, and other privileges (the facebook, google, yahoo, microsoft guys share these privileges)

-time, a lot of time, not just in building the wealth for yourself but your previous generation spent a lot of time on that endeavor.

-hard work, lots and lots of hard work

-the right industry, (finance, big business) and its not just enough to be in the right industry, you have to be on TOP of that industry, or even build that very industry. (tech)

-luck, both from your previous life (parents, family got 'lucky' breaks) luck in your childhood, luck in your career and then all the luck you made possible while you're en route to building billions

-build business, go public

There are only a few billionaires and almost all of them got there not by desire, plan, or goal of becoming a billionaire. They got there because they came from a very privileged background, or a previous generation prepared them for it, or they just found themselves there after their business got a lot of value in the world market. Its not likely that anyone here would be billionaire. Perhaps a deca-millionaire or centi-millionaire would be a more appropriate and reachable goal.

There's a book I read from a billionaire, forgot the title, he said that if he could do it all over again, he'd stop at 60 million. The 'rich' lifestyle is the same as billionaire minus the headache, time commitment and responsibilities.

Personally, if the devil offer me a deal to make me a billionaire but give up one of my nuts, I'd say, take off both of them. I don't even need them. I'd throw in the penis just for bonus.

Check out Bill Bartmann, he'll blow your research out of the water.

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Ask all the questions you want, but in the end they will all be answered by just doing it!... Get to work!

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2841246].message }}

JohnnyBGoode 13 years ago

Originally Posted by excuzemee

Check out Bill Bartmann, he'll blow your research out of the water.

Simple. Bill Bartman's so called billions are only in paper.
- [ 1 ] Thanks
- 1 reply
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2841312].message }}
- excuzemee 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by JohnnyBGoode
  
  Simple. Bill Bartman's so called billions are only in paper.
  
  Yup, but he made the list.
  
  And had a business that was worth a billion dollars.
  
  None of the guys we are talking about actually "have" billions. it's all in assets of some sort.
  
  Until you cash it out it's all on paper... and then tuned into currency... er... paper. haha!
  
  Thanks
  
  Signature
  
  Ask all the questions you want, but in the end they will all be answered by just doing it!... Get to work!
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2841451].message }}

JohnnyBGoode

13 years ago

Originally Posted by excuzemee

Yup, but he made the list.

And had a business that was worth a billion dollars.

None of the guys we are talking about actually "have" billions. it's all in assets of some sort.

Until you cash it out it's all on paper... and then tuned into currency... er... paper. haha!

The point is that my research shows the common characteristics of Billionaires from involvement in real estate investments, oil, energy, and if all else fails, millions of dollars of loans from banking institution. Want to be on a list? Get into real estate, oil, energy, or borrow hundreds of millions of dollars. His story proves (not disproves) my research. In his book, he couldn't mention one person who followed his teachings and became a billionaire. Not one. Its not what he says, its what he did.

Dan Pena and Felix Dennis on the other hand could name names of people that got rich using the things they teach, albeit in the almost Billion status.

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2841614].message }}

bryllescot

13 years ago

Got it! All fellas out there, you'll need not be an employee of any multinational companies to be rich. Ton of business home opportunity awaits you in your own home based business. Believe me, with strong determination, better planning, strategies, skills and action, you all have what it takes to be rich!

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2841762].message }}

[Reality Check] You Got What It Takes to be RICH??

Trending Topics

Boat and Jet Ski Rentals...... Door Hangers Effective?

Are billboards still effective in driving customers?

Let's dissect the genius behind Nike's 'Just Do It' slogan. What makes it so powerful and timeless?

A Very Strange Internet Problem

4 underutilised SEO research approaches to explore