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Chris,

What I say is only the TIP of the iceberg.

It will only "ring true" for some people here.

And that's who its designed for, people like us - Check your PMs
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P.S- Thanks for the plug. I hope it helps people- now I just need to create a nice product around it

Yes, ADHD is a complicated beast. I doubt anyone will ever fully understand it.

Oh look, a deer.

:p

Who's your source? Is it credible? What you just wrote means nothing - you're not a credible source- American Journal Of Medical Genetics - IS a credible source.

No disrespect meant, but if you want to challenge credible sources relating genes to ADD- then at least provide a credible source as I have..

Here's mine:

"The long repeats of the DRD4-exon III polymorphism are related to Novelty Seeking personality trait"
American Journal Of Medical Genetics

That Novelty Seeking personality trait is also associated with ADD.

You want more proof, theres plenty of books on the subject.

"A gene associated with novelty-seeking and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, DRD4, has also been shown to have undergone recent positive section."
Human Molecular Genetics


They are known to have ADD. You're right, I did assume- but you know what, my posts point still holds 100% regardless if we can prove it. Its personailty traits that are assiciated with ADD and assiciated with that Gene.

You can eliminate ALL those people you mentioned, and my point still stands




Mojojuju,

Stop guessing! You just offer opinions. I offer credible resources and you still can't understand whats going on! LOL

If you want more information go get it yourself. Do I care if you believe it? Hell no. Its not meant for you, because you're not the type of person it applies to.

Albert Einstein had ADD as do more recent figures. Albert Einstein wrote about accessing his imagination (sub conscious mind).. Your sub conscious mind is in no way logical, so it doesn't apply all the time. With ADD your sub conscious is always sending you thoughts (why its hard to focus)

Maybe you don't have ADD (NO WONDER YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND)

Now, you could argue and say everything is untrue Which is fine. I know the 10% it applies to will find truth with in the reading i recommend.

I don't know who you are, but TOP known leaders in personal mastery, KNOW that ONLY 10% of the population have the ENTREPRENEUR personality traits.

These are the people that Eben Pagan goes to for advice- you know the successful 20 millionaire a year dude.

Who are you again? LOL

Its obvious you've done no research on the topic.

Those 10% have ADD will understand what im saying.

As with anything, LIFE EXPERIENCE is what shapes beliefs the most. And beliefs aren't facts. For those LIFE EXPERIENCES with ADD, they will completely understand.

The bottom line is this- Only 10% of the population has entrepreneurial personality traits. And ADD is associated with that.

Even Tellmen Knuedson explains how he used his ADD to become so successful, lol. Get with the program dude.

I know 90% of people will not understand, like, or agree with me- and those are the ones its not meant for. I won't try to explain something to someone who doesn't have the life experiences to grasp the reality of whats actually going on.


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And Chris,

Logically some of this may not make sense, but I bet it "feels" right?

Is that correct?

Its called intuition.

Something people with access to there subconscious minds know about...

Oh no. Have we gone from medical research to astrology?? No disrespect intended, but you will never convince me that, because I was born in October, I behave differently than someone born in May.

I apologize, let me laugh for a second.. HAHAHAHAHAHAH

Okay, lets ground ourselves in reality...

I gave you a reference to medical researchers and you give me opinion.

umm.....

Now, I won't disagree with astrology as I see its usefulness sometimes..

Who are you to say its only astrology, you have no PROOF or RESEARCH, lol! It could be both or neither, but at least I have research on my side...

HAHAHAHAHAH....

Pot, kettle, black? what ?

No verification? There's been research to believe so, go read a book.

[quote=Phil Weslow;291215]I think that everyone is going a little overboard with the whole, scientifically proven fact idea. A point does not need to be a scientifically proven fact in order to have some validity.

Phil,

thanks for chiming in with some brains..
If people have a problem labeled "ADD" by society- and people look for solutions- and they find one that works for them and they see measurable results.

What does the science matter? It doesn't.

Point being, just because the gene isn't 10000% proven does not devalue the traits that people with ADD have.
It makes sense that a condition such as ADHD is a double edged sword. On one hand, people with ADHD may have more trouble in school on average, to the point where some of them are labeled as having a learning disorder.

On the other hand quite a few people with ADHD have turned out to be extremely creative. That having been said, I would be extremely shocked to find out that their have never been any highly creative people who did not have ADHD.

There is a positive and negative to everything. My goal of this post is to enlighten those who may have ADD/ADHD (and possibly on drugs for it) to let them see the other side of ADD/ADHD.

If in doubt, refer to Shakespeare. Now, I wonder which category he falls into?



"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies."



GENIUS

I'll assert my opinion that it is most certainly a marketing strategy and that this online questionnaire is no reliable determinant of a person's genetic makeup.

Notice how upon first arriving at the areyouadavinci.com web site, you are shown a video, below which reads, "ATTENTION! Watch the movie (above) first." The web site does not encourage the visitor to take the test "cold".

I think the video is a useful trick in "priming" the visitor before they take the "test", and which could result in a visitor's having some bias in their self-appraisal.

The video, by associating people who are generally regarded as successful with personality traits such as impulsiveness, rebelliousness, and novelty seeking - might very easily result in the visitor seeing such traits in a favorable light - more so than if the video was not presented to the visitor. Furthermore, seeing these traits being associated with people that are commonly associated with success - it might make it appealing for one to agree that they themselves have these traits.

Due to the video shown before the "personality test", I bet a lot of people have the "Da Vinci Personality".

Consider instead, the effect on test results if no video demonstrating a correlation between certain personality traits and success. I would bet that there would be less "Da Vinci" personalities were there no video to prime visitors before taking the test.

And imagine how the same web visitors taking the same test might result in very different test scores were there instead a video shown that correlates impulsiveness, rebelliousness, and novelty seeking with a criminal personality.

Lionel Tate had an 8 year history of behavioral problems including impulsive and rebellious behavior. He had problems in school despite having a normal IQ. Lionel Tate said he was imitating professional wrestlers when he brutally beat to death 6 year old Tiffany Eunick in his florida home....

Theodore Robert Cowell who later after being adopted took the last name "Bundy" was compulsive, often acting on a whim. He was arrested twice as a juvenile, often acting on his impulses, and shoplifting often. Ted later enrolled in the law school at the University of Utah but did poorly. He might be described as the type of person who changed his mind often, never holding on to what he set out to do. Ted Bundy described himself as an amateur and impulsive killer in his early years, yet later described himself as being more calculated. The way that Ted Bundy carried out his later murders could be described as more strategic.....


I'd argue that replacing the video shown before the questionnaire at areyouadavinci.com with my version of the video would result in people giving much different answers to the same questionnaire.

The questionaire amounts to jack squat and serves as a vehicle for selling a book and not as any reliable appraisal of a person's genetic makeup.I shudder when I think that people might think of it as some kind of "scientifically" valid test.

For those who are familiar with Robert Cialdini's Six Weapons of Influence, particularly what is referred to as the principle of committment/consistency I think the placement of the very last question on the "Da Vinci Personality" questionnaire is worth paying attention to:

10. I am always investing in good books and advice to help me improve my life situation.

Absolutely brilliant!

Yep, I'd say the questionnaire falls under 'marketing strategy' rather than 'science'. He's trying to sell you something and there ain't nothing wrong about that. Personally though, I'm going to take it with a grain of salt and a critical attitude when a person who has a blatant monetary conflict of interest has things to say about psychology or genetic biology.

I feel the same way. It's nice to know we have the power of will. If you ever doubt your will, or that you have free will, it's good to demonstrate it to your self. For instance, I just took my hands off the keyboard and barked like a dog - "woof, woof" - really loud. I made sure that nobody else was in my house first, but that was satisfactory enough for me to believe that I have free will and am not essentially a "meat robot" as might be tempting to believe with all of the new and amazing understanding of how the brain works.

What part of this discussion falls under what makes you weary, as described above? All I see is that this topic presented an alternate way of looking at what has been called ADD.

Hello Maskedmarketer..

all my life i have been feeling different than others.. i could see things others couldnt even imagine,smarter,scanning environment all the time,always creative and finding ways to make everything much easier when others do 3 times the job.. i also hyperfocuse.. all these years i didnt know why i was like this.. 2 days before i learned that its from adhd(dont like that its called a disorder)

im lost in my life, i have so big goals 4-5 years now that i want to start.. i feel i can accomplish them but its so hard because of the negatives of this. i wouldnt hate reading if i could focus to read, but i also dont want to be drugged and slow down my mind.. if only i could make all these thoughts a complete masterpiece and make them in order instead of firing away all the time i would be in a good road.. can you tell me if you want some tips to help.. im feeling so freaking lost..so many potencials and currently wasting all of them doing stupid things..

thank you for reading.