The Real Secret To Success

12 years ago

Maybe more like 80/20....

It seems that way to me, anyway.

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Suraj Muralee 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael55555

Maybe more like 80/20....
It seems that way to me, anyway.

hah, I agree with Michael.
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Simon Ashari

12 years ago

The skill is a result of how much work you put in (derived from the mental aspect).

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icegin

12 years ago

I agree with the general premise which is that one's mentality/mindset has a significant impact on one's success. It doesn't really matter if you have special skills or abilities -- if you aren't determined to put in the necessary effort, you won't get anywhere.

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GT

12 years ago

The percentages may be a matter of opinion and personal experience, but I definitely agree that success and achievement is largely a mental game. We've got to dream it first, then mentally motivate ourselves to do something about it, and then continue to stimulate our emotions to keep us doing things until the goal is achieved.

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 12 years ago

I'm surprised more people don't post here in Mind Warriors because like you said the mental aspect of “success” is crucial. By “networking” with each other and discussing the inner game of success I think we have a massive advantage over people who aren't aware of how important it is. Great post, by the way. : )

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RHert

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0

I'm surprised more people don't post here in Mind Warriors because like you said the mental aspect of "success" is crucial. By "networking" with each other and discussing the inner game of success I think we have a massive advantage over people who aren't aware of how important it is. Great post, by the way. : )

You're exactly right Jonathan. I've found on more than one occasion that if I come and read some of the posts I can keep working where before I wasn't feeling motivated.

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by RHert

You're exactly right Jonathan. I've found on more than one occasion that if I come and read some of the posts I can keep working where before I wasn't feeling motivated.

Same. : )

It's a really nice and encouraging environment here in Mind Warriors. We're all working on becoming happier and more "successful."

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Evocess

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0

I'm surprised more people don't post here in Mind Warriors because like you said the mental aspect of "success" is crucial. By "networking" with each other and discussing the inner game of success I think we have a massive advantage over people who aren't aware of how important it is. Great post, by the way. : )

Great post! Yes it's true that some of our fellow warriors don't post here because they think that the all of the post here in Mind Warriors are for nothing where in fact those threads is very helpful to make us be guided, inspired and motivated.

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monkeytrousers

12 years ago

There is one major component you didn't mention: taking action! You can have the mindset and the skills, but if your never do anything with it, you will NEVER achieve success.

Mental attitude is definitely a MASSIVE part of this. You have to believe something can be done, but you also have to try out your theory in a real world setting and take that is far as you can go.

Then you have to learn from your mistakes, adjust your direction and theory and then test it out.

Great post... it only needed a verb!

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BrightShinyObjects

12 years ago

Originally Posted by monkeytrousers

There is one major component you didn't mention: taking action! You can have the mindset and the skills, but if your never do anything with it, you will NEVER achieve success.

Yes, i agree. I'm finding both elusive:p and both are essential--belief in yourself and then action.

I love this forum!

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Jonathan 2.0 Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by monkeytrousers

You can have the mindset and the skills, but if your never do anything with it, you will NEVER achieve success.

Good point monkeytrousers. Action is equally important in achieving success.

However, similarly, if all you do is take action (without a "Success Mindset") you'll end up being unhappy no matter how much action you take.

Just ask all those people who end up going bankrupt and unhappy after winning the “Lotto.”
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hireava

12 years ago

Originally Posted by monkeytrousers

There is one major component you didn't mention: taking action! You can have the mindset and the skills, but if your never do anything with it, you will NEVER achieve success.

Mental attitude is definitely a MASSIVE part of this. You have to believe something can be done, but you also have to try out your theory in a real world setting and take that is far as you can go.

Then you have to learn from your mistakes, adjust your direction and theory and then test it out.

Great post... it only needed a verb!

I totally agree! Even if you have the power of the mind and skills but doesn't have an action then you can't achieve success. Take also an action about it.

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roosters64

12 years ago

I have noticed a common theme amongst successful people. They don't fear failure. In fact they seem to rise out of the ashes of failure. Donald Trump is a classic example of this. Success - Bankruptcy - Success

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buckeyes09

12 years ago

What about talent? Is that a part of mental (I don't think).

Trump is a little iffy because his dad died worth ~$400M; although the elder Trump probably wasn't that loaded when Donald was younger, Donald has a lot of help.

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TBInternetMarketing

12 years ago

Originally Posted by buckeyes09

What about talent?

I personally think that often talent is over-rated and confused with hardwork.

Malcolm Gladwell goes into great detail in his interesting book The Outliers, in which he claims that any skill can be mastered in 10,000 hours.

For example, let's take a 7 year old "prodigy" that can play the piano like a master.

Naturally people would assume they were talented, but in reality you would probably find that the child had been playing the piano since it was 2 years old for 8 hours a day.
If that was the case, that would give the child 14,000 + hours of piano playing already, which would basically be sheer hard work, not talent.

Another good example is Tiger Woods. He also started playing golf when he was only 18 months old and by the time he was 5 was beating most adults.
Again though, it was hard work and focus more than talent.

Interesting topic though

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buckeyes09

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing

I personally think that often talent is over-rated and confused with hardwork.

Malcolm Gladwell goes into great detail in his interesting book The Outliers, in which he claims that any skill can be mastered in 10,000 hours.

For example, let's take a 7 year old "prodigy" that can play the piano like a master.

Naturally people would assume they were talented, but in reality you would probably find that the child had been playing the piano since it was 2 years old for 8 hours a day.
If that was the case, that would give the child 14,000 + hours of piano playing already, which would basically be sheer hard work, not talent.

Another good example is Tiger Woods. He also started playing golf when he was only 18 months old and by the time he was 5 was beating most adults.
Again though, it was hard work and focus more than talent.

Interesting topic though

Definitely interesting.

Also interesting, is the distinction is what you said as it pertains to talent vs. skill. No doubt world class pianists and golfers require great talent, as well as prodigious dedication. I can practice basketball forever, but I'm never going to go far into the ranks (okay, bad example for a 5'9" person -- but you get the point).

Much of IM is a skill. Those you have tremendous talent in a niche of IM can excel; likewise, those with a huge visual and management skills can become legendary (ostensibly said persons need satisfactory execution and ideas).

But yeah, dedication is important, too.

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porathjessica

12 years ago

thanks for the share...

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Preeti

12 years ago

I think the secret is just taking action. If you aren't fully skilled with 10,000 hours of experience in a certain field or topic, if you take action towards your goal it'll only get your closer. Learning from experiences is necessary and this will only happen when you take action. Yes, you may stumble a bit but eventually you will get the hang of it.

We just let our minds get the best of us and create so many mental obstacles that it stops us from taking action and realizing success.

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WorldIR

12 years ago

determination and hard work...

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aderra

Banned 12 years ago

There is no single secret. It's all about the individual. I think it starts with your own definition of success. Some people think that someone who drives a certain kind of car or has a specific kind of job is a success. I think it's about doing something well, enjoying it, and earning a living that gives you a quality of life that makes you happy.

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flaminjo

12 years ago

I would agree with 98% mental and 2% skill because in order to acquire mastery in your skill, lots of mental strength is required.

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madamemagz

12 years ago

if you believe you can do it, whatever the obstacle you CAN do it

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Andrew Skelly

12 years ago

Belief is the most powerful trait a person can posses.

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Odahh

12 years ago

As someone who is currently broke ..but has success in breaking out of long term dance in the darkness ..and has healed most of the physical problems from ..working hard for others in system that toss you away ..

i ask is there a secret to success..no.

most people just never hunker down and define what success for them is ..they step out there and try to look successful to other people. while they rott inside

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dreganomics

12 years ago

I think the "secret" to success is to know EXACTLY what you want (think Napleon Hill).

That, and a stubborn refusal to quit no matter how rough things get...things are always darkest right before the light!

EDIT: These, and a crazy work ethic

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wangui

12 years ago

Great! I don't know about the percentages but it is true. For any transformation to occur in our lives, it must start in the mind first. everything starts in the mind.

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kurtwilliams

12 years ago

nice share buddy..

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Neo10 12 years ago

I think the secret to success is to get in uncomfortable situations that force you to work harder, get up earlier, do the things we have been putting off, for example one time I was in the situation where I had something like 6 months course work to do in 1 month or would fail my course but I got it done because the thought of failing my course was so bad it made me really uncomfortable which forced me to do whatever it took to get the work done.

In the situation with the 4 minute mile, once it had been beaten then standards had been raised which put pressure on the other athletes to up there game.
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Usmile

12 years ago

I like your point. I truly believe that what the mind is capable of the body can do it as well but still it is under several factors.

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Noel 100K

12 years ago

The Real Secret to Success is taking the right action at the right time.

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patriciabyers

12 years ago

determination and focus

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Jarvis Edwards

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing

I've been doing a lot of thinking about success and the mind lately, and I've come to the conclusion that in my humble opinion, success is 98% mental, and 2% skill.

Almost every single successful person in life has believed that they will be successful.

A little story that really drives home my feeling about this is the story of Roger Bannister breaking the 4 minute mile back in the 1950's.

Did you know that after he managed that "impossible" feat, 37 other people also did it within 2 years!
Why? Well because they all knew it could be done because Bannister had done it.
Before that, no one thought it was possible to run that fast. Mentally, people thought it was impossible. As a result, not a single human had run a mile in under 4 minutes before the 1950's.
Then suddenly when people saw it was possible after Bannister did it, 37 more athletes did it within the next 2 years!
What had changed? They were the same athletes, with the same training. They just had a different mindset.

That is the power of the human mind, and why in my opinion success is 98% mental.

Just wanted to share my thoughts.

I agree. The more you believe in yourself, the more you are apt to recognize opportunities when they come. Having a huge amount of skill without the right state of mind will equal failure more often than not. More people have become successful with a positive mind state than with skill. A good test of that fact is looking at how many extremely capable and intelligent/genius people are either unemployed, broke/barely surviving or working a "crappy" job.

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Nerohawk

12 years ago

yes its kinda like 70-30 for me.

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jeevanswaraaj

12 years ago

Good post! In my opinion intention is great, but must take action to manifest it into reality and sometimes there is no guarantee that things will work out the way we planned. That is life!

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Cuffs

12 years ago

Focusing and dedication is one of the secret ways to success

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Mae Rose

12 years ago

Mental and skill must go hand in hand. If you have the intelligence but don't have the skill, you couldn't put into realization the image of your creativity. The same with skill. If you have the skill but don't have the intelligence, you couldn't work well to maximize your skill.

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JeremiahSay

12 years ago

With the right mental and attitude, the right skills will usually comes naturally.. As long as you're eagle to make it happen (success, marriage etc), you'll certainly find a way to make it happen..

I really agree to this thread especially when he mentioned that mental, having the right attitude is much more important than the skill itself (not so much about the percentage though)

Just like a old saying: "IF there's a WILL; there's a WAY"

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inf

12 years ago

cool stuff. I wouldn't go with 98% though, probably more like 70%

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leorocking25

12 years ago

Hard working,time utilization and keeling patience...i think.

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Tjalling

12 years ago

Being passionate about the things you want to accomplish is one of the keys to succes!

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Anton Nadilo

12 years ago

This observation has come from coaching and mentoring people to financial success over the past 10 years.

Once you TRULY decide in your mind that you are going to acheive something and it burns a hole in your brain 24/7 all the other aspect like taking action, learning new skills, overcoming obstacles and challenges ALL fall into place.

Focus on creating a burning, unwavering reason "WHY" you want what you are going after the success will follow.

It has worked every time I have seen this occur.

Stay Strong & Prosper

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Anne-Marie B

12 years ago

I agree... the right mindset is the key. Once you believe without a doubt you can do it then nothing will stop you. You will find a way to achieve your goals.

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aa2newyork

12 years ago

The best use of ones mind (focus, beliefs, attitude) is to Focus it on what one has to DO to succeed. I have a little formula for that: F.A.R., which stands for:

Focus + Action = Results/Reality

All of ones mental focus should be directed to what one has to DO to achieve results.
This is the most reliable success formula I have ever come across; it works!

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ddshosting

12 years ago

some good points to consider thankyou

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samanthasdatul

12 years ago

Remember to “think positive” at every opportunity. Visualize success, not failure. Avoid negative environments and people.

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samanthasdatul

12 years ago

Remember to "think positive" at every opportunity. Visualize success, not failure. Avoid negative environments and people.

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jason17

12 years ago

yes agree ,, mental is the most important thing which make people become success ,
skill is only a factor supporting ,,
skills can be trained in how to learn, but mentally trained harder