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Unread 3rd Aug 2012, 12:56 PM   #1
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Hi Guys

Given that the Warrior Forum is full of people that want to make a living online or via an alternative other than a "traditional job" I thought this would be the ideal place to learn from the wealth of experience and talent we have here.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's a good mix of "wantrepreneurs" who are trying to follow their passion full time as well as bona fide entrepreneurs who already do it and make a full time income from it.

To help the people still stuck trading time for money (I am one) I'd love to get your thoughts, experiences and views on these questions:

If you've still struggling to get free

What are the biggest obtacles you face in making it happen today?

What support/advice do you need to help you on your journey?


If you've already made the switch

What is the single most important piece of advice anyone wanting to make the crossover needs to know?

Interested to hear your feedback guys - let's make this thread a great resource for everyone wanting to crossover.

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My jump happened when I started treating my side-projects as a real job. People need to escape the trap of the "Internet Marketer" frame of mind or even the "Marketer" frame. You are out to build cash flow, so treat it like a business. Be entrepreneurs, not "IM guys". Act like there is somebody breathing down your neck to achieve your goals when first starting out until it is habitualized.


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Hi Guys

Given that the Warrior Forum is full of people that want to make a living online or via an alternative other than a "traditional job" I thought this would be the ideal place to learn from the wealth of experience and talent we have here.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's a good mix of "wantrepreneurs" who are trying to follow their passion full time as well as bona fide entrepreneurs who already do it and make a full time income from it.

To help the people still stuck trading time for money (I am one) I'd love to get your thoughts, experiences and views on these questions:

If you've still struggling to get free

What are the biggest obtacles you face in making it happen today?

What support/advice do you need to help you on your journey?


If you've already made the switch

What is the single most important piece of advice anyone wanting to make the crossover needs to know?

Interested to hear your feedback guys - let's make this thread a great resource for everyone wanting to crossover.

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Thanks for sharing Will.

C'mon the rest of you, get your responses in so we can figure out how best to help the people who haven't made the switch yet.

Your comments could be the catalyst that change someones life...
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For me, I have always been an awkward fit into the molds offered by society-i have never derived my sense of identity by what i do for a living-I have strained in the harness since childhood. When my first marriage failed i re-invented myself as an IT Support expert-studying and working towards that goal. i was moderately successful, having earned my living in this role for the past nearly 20 years. However, a year ago i started to become aware of the potential for earning a living online, from home. i have been working towards that end for about 8 months now-i have 30 domain names 10 websites varying from cashgigs.net to vicparkwebdesign.com. I am now striving to create an offline consultancy for my local area, have built a town Portal (or am building) with business directory and classified ads etc. The main obstacle for me is keeping motivated and developing the confidence to present myself to local business, will be attending a local chambers luncheon next month to kick this off. I am always studying ways to improve my offerings and add value.
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The biggest obstacle I have faced so far is getting myself to do any work, I mean procrastination.

It's not like before when I used to have a job that I'd be required to be at a certain place before a certain time in uniform. Now it's like get out of bed, turn on the PC, go fiddle about somewhere online comepletely missing the point.

I wish I had an office that I could go to, in uniform, and be there at a certain time and avoid procrastinating any more. But then again I could be procrastinating in the office anyway right?

So my advice would be to set a goal for yourself and reach it at the end of the day.

Also before making that crossover, please don't make it hard on yourself by quitting your job and trying to make it full time in IM.

I mean, I ain't stopping you, but I'm just saying because I still wish I had my old job since I am still in transition after a string of failures.
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My biggest obstacles are time and energy. My current job is so demanding and takes so much out of me that I am exhausted when I get home.
Time - being a parent and all that entails. Which is just wonderful, no issues there.
Hmm for me it's definitely my job that's sapping me
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My greatest obstacles seems to be getting focused. sometimes am on others off focus

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My biggest obstacles are time and energy. My current job is so demanding and takes so much out of me that I am exhausted when I get home.
Time - being a parent and all that entails. Which is just wonderful, no issues there.
Hmm for me it's definitely my job that's sapping me
I hear you Michela, I have a full time job too which involves lots of national travel 4-5 hours a day reguarly and I struggle to find the highest yield activities for the small amount of time I have available.

I've always felt like the job is holding me back but that I need to stay in it to keep the income coming in to pay for the roof over my head. Catch 22.

How are people getting over this part? Building up a side hustle until it takes over job income?
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I hear you Michela, I have a full time job too which involves lots of national travel 4-5 hours a day reguarly and I struggle to find the highest yield activities for the small amount of time I have available.

I've always felt like the job is holding me back but that I need to stay in it to keep the income coming in to pay for the roof over my head. Catch 22.

How are people getting over this part? Building up a side hustle until it takes over job income?

WillMitchell said earlier in this thread that we need to basically get serious and treat our online ventures like a job. Too true!

And Calhoun - not to make it hard on ourselves by ditching the job too early. Also very true!

I am a classic story of online ventures that didn't work out, gave up in despondency, another year goes by, try again etc. So many times I've wanted to quit from my job because "I just can't take it anymore". I'm glad I haven't, though.

Funny thing is, the essence of my employment IS what I love (or one of the things I love). However, my employer is squeezing more and more out of me (and indeed most people there, not just me), with no signs of that abating.
Killing energy, killing motivation.

So I am in the process of:
*Looking at what I can streamline at work
*Intelligently lowering my personal bar so I can still do the job and be perceived as giving value, but perhaps not to my personal standard. (Mine is often too high, is yours?)
*Having the courage to say to my manager that certain resource cuts will have a nett effect, and work flow must be adjusted accordingly. Etc.

Smarter action, not more action.
Hopefully, more energy at the end of the work day.

*Questions - what do I love? How can I move that into my own business? Do I even want to? If not - then what?
*Research, brainstorm, plan, action plan
*Continue to educate yourself at the same time
*Pieces of a puzzle - we can complete this!
*Inspired, planned action
*As the wonderful Stephen Covey always said "begin with the end in mind"
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If you've still struggling to get free

What are the biggest obtacles you face in making it happen today?

1 Understanding that I am about to do something that only 15% or less of the world is capable of doing and that only 1% maybe a little more, ever take action doing it.

2 Knowing that when it comes down to it I'm Alone.

What support/advice do you need to help you on your journey?
Well, the problem has always been this for me, if you're working you got Money, but no time, if you don't work in order to do your thing, you got Time and little Money.

If you've already made the switch

What is the single most important piece of advice anyone wanting to make the crossover needs to know?

1 Always, stick to the basics.
2 Basically, you need to do the opposite of what 95% of the people are doing.
3 You will be alone so don't be afraid of the unknown.
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What I did is I changed my mindset. I say it all the time, but if you don't focus on one thing, you are almost bound to fail.

I have developed strong work ethic over time. Nowadays I plan and schedule everything, including the time spent on this forum, reading PMs, responding, etc.

Everything is scheduled in my notepad and nothing will get in my way while I'm working. I stay focused on my goals and when I see the results, I get even more motivated and willing to work even harder.
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You can also find a tonne of good books on amazon related to this topic, I'm reading "Making The Big Leap" right now, great book.

Does anyone have any recommendations for similar books about leaving 9 to 5? I've ordered another 8 and I'm looking to find and read every book on this topic so I can help others in my situation too
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Stay focus and believe in yourself, in your talent, in everything. If you were able to think of this business then you would be able to find or think of a solution with whatever obstacle you may encounter along the way. Be strong.
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First off, i'd like to say that i really like the concept
and structure of this post.

If you've still struggling to get free...

Q1. What are the biggest obtacles you face in making
it happen today?

my biggest problem is/was setting up effective
follow-up system, and making consistent sales

Q2. What support/advice do you need to help you
on your journey?

I've found all the advise i need from my
new mentor at a *hugely* discounted
price, and now i'm well on my way.

(If you've already made the switch)

Q3. What is the single most important piece of
advice anyone wanting to make the crossover
needs to know?

I'd say that there are clever ways to build your list
continuously from work that you do once(no not
article marketing), and you *must* also continously
build the relationship - make them know, like and
trust you - and you can do this on auto-pilot, if you
are really sharp you can even get them to tell you
their preferences and spending budget, and even
ask or bribe them for referrals - and *automate* this
whole process.

(The *real* breakthrough is to get yourself a mentor
to put all the pieces of the puzzle that most of us
already have into a coheherent well oiled
system - because frankly what i've discovered
is that if you don't have a system you don't have
a business... most of promote/market but that is
only one part of the whole business system)

I can't give too much away, so click on my *mentor*
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I'm off to consume the rest of this thread for gold nuggets!!!
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I am so friggen happy. I bought 3 adsense sites from an awesome lady, and theyre each making around $1 a day. Doesn't sound like much, but it's my first major step towards real true freedom. I'd need about 2500$ a month to be super happy and to feel stable and to invest in other things as well.

Also these sites will flip for 8-12 times their worth anyways. So the GOAL is to have about 100 websites fully managed by ME, MYSELF AND I by my Birthday which is Dec 29th. I will be 30 years old.

My obstacles really aren't that bad. It just takes funds ( no loans ) to purchase the sites while paying my bills. I can find a way and will find a way.

Keep me in your thoughts. Thank you OP for making this post!
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All of the threads I'm reading are truly inspiring. Internet marketing help me a lot.
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Thanks for all of your kind comments, much appreciated.

I'm loving these responses and I fully intend to reflect on them and try to devise groundbreaking solutions that work for me but also for others - that's the true test of a solution.

I'm dedicating my lifes work to helping people find prosperity in their passions and to stop living the 9 to 5 life if they don't love it. All of your responses are helping me to move this jouney on and I thank you for that.

I've also recently set up my first meetup.com group here in London, England and I have 28 members and will be chairing my first meetup later this month. If anyone is interested in attending let me know.

I wasn't quite ready yet but I took action and guess what?...Everything started to fall into place nicely.

Now to figure out what to plan for the first session...keep your answers coming and anything else you think will make this thread a valuable resource for all.

Respect.

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I am so friggen happy. I bought 3 adsense sites from an awesome lady, and theyre each making around $1 a day. Doesn't sound like much, but it's my first major step towards real true freedom. I'd need about 2500$ a month to be super happy and to feel stable and to invest in other things as well.

Also these sites will flip for 8-12 times their worth anyways. So the GOAL is to have about 100 websites fully managed by ME, MYSELF AND I by my Birthday which is Dec 29th. I will be 30 years old.

My obstacles really aren't that bad. It just takes funds ( no loans ) to purchase the sites while paying my bills. I can find a way and will find a way.

Keep me in your thoughts. Thank you OP for making this post!
Good work, a start is all you need! In terms of finding the money to buy more sites (if that's your passion) you may want to check T Harv Eker's JARS money managment system.

I'm using the Financial Freedom account principle right now and I've accumulated over 1000 in less than a month! I have an FFA bank account and a jar which I religiously put money into and say my thanks everyday and I've been "finding" money ever since - Recommended!
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Good work, a start is all you need! In terms of finding the money to buy more sites (if that's your passion) you may want to check T Harv Eker's JARS money managment system.

I'm using the Financial Freedom account principle right now and I've accumulated over 1000 in less than a month! I have an FFA bank account and a jar which I religiously put money into and say my thanks everyday and I've been "finding" money ever since - Recommended!
Thanks! My goal is $1500 by Dec 29th 2012. And I'll be on my merry way!
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This is truly great information. Thank you very much!

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I've never really worked for anybody at else, at least not full time, and so for me there was no choice but to make it work.

I actually don't think entrepreneurship is the best option for everyone, even though I wouldn't do it any other way, because you have to be completely self motivated, rather than boss- motivated, and that isn't most people.

That said if you really want to be your own boss, I would say quit your job, refuse to take another one until you are making money, in a developed country you will work out some way to make it work and probably quicker than you would think possible.

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I've never really worked for anybody at else, at least not full time, and so for me there was no choice but to make it work.

I actually don't think entrepreneurship is the best option for everyone, even though I wouldn't do it any other way, because you have to be completely self motivated, rather than boss- motivated, and that isn't most people.

That said if you really want to be your own boss, I would say quit your job, refuse to take another one until you are making money, in a developed country you will work out some way to make it work and probably quicker than you would think possible.
Excellent Idea

I don't think many know that many of our best motivational speakers, authors, actors etc. We're once homeless. The only thing I can think of that they did was take things more seriously and put work in on their own businesses, books, abilities, which made them great. Well Said.
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I'm still working to get the ultimate freedom where you can do just what you want, whenever you want. I think there's a lot of dreamers in here.

The biggest obstacle for me right now is lack of time. I really need to prioritize lots of things to move closer to my goal. Yes I make money online now with affiliate marketing, but not the money I dream of.

During the time I have learned more and more. Right now I'm thinking about creating an ebook to sell as a WSO. Just thinking about what the content should be; I'm researching right now.

By they way I think you should check out an earlier thread of mine which may inspire you. Please add your comments to help other

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I am between gigs now so I suppose I am free of corporate slavery for today!

My biggest obstacles are debt and stupidity. Just a few years ago we had nearly $100k in savings. We had the bright idea to buy a house and made a decision to buy an investment property to live in and fix up. It has been a nightmare.

If you want to just flush your savings down the toilet fast, buy a dump in a bad neighborhood. A dump here will set you back $400k.

Problem 2 was having a child arrested for stupidity and facing many years in prison. Goodbye $30k for attorney fee and travelling over to his country to get him out of trouble.

So we are sitting in a property both not working with a huge mortgage, almost no savings left, and this place is worth about 40k less than what we owe on it.

Fortunately, I have the feeling I will be working again in the next few weeks as I am in the final stages of interviewing at 2 different places.

Good because we will have money coming in again but bad because once again I will be stuck in corporate slavery doing something I am very very good at and pays a lot of money, but hate with a passion.

My advice from being stupid would be to don't get into huge debt.

My plan for escaping corporate slavery is to figure a way out of the debt and get our savings back up. In the mean time keep working on my online business ideas. I would love to sell this house for a profit some how!

I really wish I could do my work part time or from home but for some reason, even though every thing I do can be done from my home as I am fully set up to do that, companies want to see a warm body in the chair.
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Luckily, I was laid off 2 months ago, so now I do it full time.

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I haven't achieved my goal yet. the obstacle comes in my way is lack of knowledge about IM.
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I've thought about that issue myself. I'm still working a full time gig but wonder how I'll do without the formal structure of a 9-5. I've been reading Chris Guillebeau's new book and came across a section that talked about a woman who was 'colocating' - I did a quick google on it since I wasn't familiar with the term (not sure if is just me who doesn't know about this) and was pleased to see that going into an office could still be an option when I finally have enough things going on for me to cut the cord. You may want to look into that.

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The biggest obstacle I have faced so far is getting myself to do any work, I mean procrastination.

It's not like before when I used to have a job that I'd be required to be at a certain place before a certain time in uniform. Now it's like get out of bed, turn on the PC, go fiddle about somewhere online comepletely missing the point.

I wish I had an office that I could go to, in uniform, and be there at a certain time and avoid procrastinating any more. But then again I could be procrastinating in the office anyway right?

So my advice would be to set a goal for yourself and reach it at the end of the day.

Also before making that crossover, please don't make it hard on yourself by quitting your job and trying to make it full time in IM.

I mean, I ain't stopping you, but I'm just saying because I still wish I had my old job since I am still in transition after a string of failures.
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What I recommend to people that are thinking of making "the leap" is to have an emergency fund set up in case things don't go as planned. Six months of living expenses will do nicely.

I released a video blog about it last week. I talk about my own story and why getting laid off from my job, turned out to be the best thing that happened to me. (Besides the birth of my son... Marriage to my wife.... Well, ok third best thing. :p)

How to Never Worry About Getting Fired, Getting Laid Off, or Quitting A Job that Sucks - YouTube

(Mods, if this seems to self-promotional. I apologize and feel free to delete it. But I do think it fits the thread well.)

I also, highly recommend that you have something already making you money BEFORE you quit. This way it's just a matter of scaling up, rather than starting from scratch.

I've seen many people here scoff at leaving your job to pursue IM full time. They talk about how bad the economy is, or how hard it will be to find another job, or a bunch of other excuses for you to stay within your comfort zone.

But by staying in your comfort zone, you don't grow. There is no standing still in life. Because we don't live forever, we will only move either forwards or backwards. And sometimes, the fear of having a gun to your head is just what will push you over the line that separates the mediocre from the wildly successful.

Having the "gun-to-the-head" mentality when it comes to business is a very powerful ally. When it comes to not being able to feed your family if you don't bring in enough income, you will dig deep into untapped areas of your brain. You'll have more focus, more creativity, and more courage.
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What made me do finally quit (3 and a half years ago now):

1. Compelling reason-why
2. Deadline for when I wanted to quit
3. Savings and income goal for quitting
4. Enough desire to make it a 100% certainty

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Unread 14th Aug 2012, 12:12 PM   #31
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Hi everyone!


I, as stopper, am in a very demanding 12 hour job, with no extra hours pay (In my country the work laws sucks big time). I am making the commitment of quiting my job in 8 months, and planning and alternate source of income.

Right now, I am willing to sacrifice some of my sleep hours to achieve this, since the Time is what I need.

My plan consist on investing (both time and money) in Authority Sites and forex.

what do you think on this?

Should I try something else to learn ?
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The biggest obstacle is being able to find the right niche where you are able to succeed. Procrastination is also a major issue.

My advise is find a niche that you are comfortable with, and run with that. I've been working from home for quite a while now, and I'm happy with what I'm doing.
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My biggest obstacle is my lack of concentration on one project. Although it may seem like an elementary mistake, it is quite difficult to surmount. The mind tends to wander to the next most exciting or new topic.
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My biggest obstacle is my lack of concentration on one project. Although it may seem like an elementary mistake, it is quite difficult to surmount. The mind tends to wander to the next most exciting or new topic.

I'm also guilty of this, is it a London thing as I live here too?

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I hear you Michela, I have a full time job too which involves lots of national travel 4-5 hours a day reguarly and I struggle to find the highest yield activities for the small amount of time I have available.

I've always felt like the job is holding me back but that I need to stay in it to keep the income coming in to pay for the roof over my head. Catch 22.

How are people getting over this part? Building up a side hustle until it takes over job income?
Find a good mentor to help you earn at least the money you earn from the day job, so you quit with no doubts, if you prefer working from home for yourself. There are a few around that offer that guarantee...( and they mean it, I can proove it... )
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I got to a point where I couldnt stand working with most of my coworkers. I came in and did 8-10 hours of solid work, whereas they chit chatted, played corporate politics and often came out ahead. I was sick of working on a project just to have some 'professional talker' put his name all over it and take credit for it. Even though I was recognized for my work and given raises and all, it was just insane to think that a large international organization (you'd be shocked and scared if I told you the stories and what company it was) would carry so much dead weight. There were literally people who did nothing but forward emails and work to other people and got paid 6 figure incomes for it. It was the most epic mismanaged thing I had ever seen. I just couldnt stand to be part of that kind of environment for another minute.

It took me a few months to build up my online businesses, but I make a decent living now. It's been super fulfilling thus far. Best thing I ever did was quitting.
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Seems like the consensus is lack of focus. That is definitely the hardest hurdle for me.

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Yeah, It's hard to labor on when you aren't seeing immediate results.
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So the question is, to the guys who have made the break - what are your tips to maintain laser focus and get things done?
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For me, looking at my bank account always motivates me, if the numbers start dropping, it gets me going to work even harder, to expand one of my businesses, try something new. I've been surviving six months and just never stop reaching for something more. It can be exhausting, but it's been rewarding too.
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