"What if money didn't matter?"
 

Wow, I was just hit with an immense amount of realization after watching this. It couldn't fit anywhere more perfect than this forum.

The question anyone reading this should ask themselves: If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?

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If money didn't exist, we'd be using something else as a medium of exchange. So we'd like be doing whatever business we're in to acquire more of whatever we're using as a medium of exchange.

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That's not the point of the video. Whatever 'medium of exchange' that you are looking at, it poses the question "What if it didn't matter?".

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Why would any form of exchange exist if it didn't matter? That's where the video falls flat on its face.

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I completely agree with you on the basis of creating the human need - this is where all majorly successful entrepreneurs have made their billions. However, you have to realize that humans didn't always have connections with one another and they only hunted for their own necessities, which proves to us that we have evolved since that time.

That is where the video comes into place for me. If I had a substantial amount of wealth ("money didn't matter"), or I lived in prehistoric times and hunted and gathered for myself only ("money/trading didn't matter"), what would I want to do with my life? Would I really want to be on the WarriorForum trying to figure out the next way to make money, or how to defeat the next Google Update? -- probably not, and I think many people would agree.

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Dude, exactly, that's why I left the webinar link. It talks about the progression from that hunter gatherer economy to today. The point is that we live in an exchange based economy and those who understand these economic shifts (including the one that took us out of the hunter-gatherer age), they'll be a lot happier and successful cause they wouldn't be worrying so much about money.

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As for my answer.

I love helping people with problems. I love coming up with solutions. So being a life coach or business consultant is what I would do.

My current job is handling in house internet marketing. Basically I consult but for one company only. It's not quite perfect but very close to what I truly want to do.

I've never been on to live a life based on what others wanted.

I grew up on welfare. That allowed me to see that really you can live a nice life not even working. So I never feared not having money because I knew the safety net was there and I saw how on that net you could stay home and play video games and watch cable (net wasn't around in the 80 when i was a kid on welfare). But by the time I was 20 I had made more money per year than my mom (single parent) ever had and all I was doing was following jobs I enjoyed.

In high school I decided I wanted to be a teacher. Since I loved helping people and wanted summers off. You'll hear teachers talk about how hard it is. But the truth is they make it hard. The teachers who inspired me talk to me about what they really did. With proper time management it really is a 7 to 4 Mon to Fri job. So I went to college for less than a year and realized I didn't want to do anything that required college. Because even though I would have enjoyed being a teacher I wouldn't have enjoyed 4 more years of pointless homework (I could and likely still can ace most tests without having to study) and wasted time.

At 19 I got my first job (not a fan of working) at Wal-mart. It was full time (minus like 3 or 4 weeks a year I had a set 40hr work week) and I made $1 over minimum wage (know what you are worth and never take less). While there I realized I kind of liked this retail thing. Retail management allows you to coach people professionally and allows you to do visual marketing (better known as merchandising). So I left Walmart to be a retail manager (walmart over works their managers or at least did back then).

But over time realized that while I was making good money I didn't like the hours. At times they were long and you would go from days to nights and back.

But over time I learned that since I was good at consulting I was good at selling. All selling is really is helping people buy things that benefit them. So finally I made it to a commission based retail store and became a sales manager which luckily had a long period of time as a trainee where I got to sell the same as the commissioned sales people.

That allowed me to see first hand that I could sell and make the same or more money and yet be way happier. But the hours still sucked so I found an RV dealership that was only open till 5 (6 two days a week during summer).

Of course while there I was able to give advice to the owners and we talked about the internet and how you could market better on the internet. Which lead over the years to more and more of my job being the marketing consultant halves.

I am a great example of just doing things you love. I get bored so I need to change it up every few years (sometimes months) so of course my course evolved.

I made money along the way because not only did i enjoy what I did but I was good at it. If I ever got tired of a job I quit. Two of those jobs I quit without having another job lined up. And people who know me know I have no savings so I didn't bring my own safety net. Most people would be afraid to do that. Because they worry about money vs. being happy.

Being happy is more important. And if you have confidence in yourself you know you will land on your feet. I always have.

So I have always done what makes me happy but in a way that will allow me to live the life I want (corvettes and other sports cars have high monthly payments). It wasn't hard. But to get started I had to stop listening to people who told me what I should do.

Here is a tip for the young ones on the board. College is useless for the vast majority of careers. Before you do it decide if what you want to do with your life requires it. You can name most of those careers off the top of your head (engineer, teacher, doctor, lawyer, etc). If it doesn't are you going to college because you enjoy formal learning? If you can't answer yes to one of those questions you really shouldn't go to college. You will never get those 4 years back and time is worth more than money. Plus you will likely end up with $20k plus of debt and I am sure you can think of many things that you would enjoy spending $20k more on.

So I know you can make a living doing what you want as long as you are good at it.

I hang out on this forum because I love marketing and consulting. But I do see a lot of people on this forum who are here for the wrong reasons. They want to make money online but they do not love marketing. Some don't even love tech. There isn't really a reason besides "money" for them to be here. And even that really is the dream of "money for no effort" that they have bought into.

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If money didn't matter I think we would trade friendship and compassion. Whats wrong with trading an item for an item of equal value? If we take out the intermediate paper promise I believe we would be happier and more compassionate.

The problem is human need for betterment and ranking against others... How do we achieve it? More money.

In regard to your question: No I would not be promoting businesses goods/services if money did not matter.

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If money was not an issue, I would still publish information online, I just would not attempt to monetize it as much as I am doing. Maybe I wouldn't try to monetize it at all.

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@Aaron Doud

Great post man, that is truly an inspiration. I'm only 19, so I can't relate to many things you mentioned except for the college part. I am currently a freshman at college, and although I don't like the classes, I DO love the networking and *cough* fun weekends. There is no better place, or time, to meet people and create these friendships. On top of that, it's very true when people say: "It's not how many people you know, it's WHO you know". These friendships may be beneficial to me someday, or maybe not, but that's none of my concern as they are just my friends.

That's awesome you've always went to where you thought you'd be happiest though. I can't see myself quitting a job and not having another one lined up the next day, I would be scared of never getting another job. You're definitely on the right track to living a fulfilling lifestyle and a lot of people should take note of the post you just made.

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swords,

Once you are truly confident in yourself and understand that the worst really isn't that bad you can.

But even then it is effort at times our mind will let us stay in a bad situation because fear of change is scary.

I always tell people to get past that just think about the worst that could happen. Is it really that bad?

In some ways starting my life on welfare and in public hosing gave me a unique view of this. The worst isn't that bad. I had food, friends, toys, and even a NES. Honestly some of the happiest moments of my life were the "worst". So why would I fear that?

Quantify the "worst" and you can put that fear away. Then just follow the paths that make you happy. We don't need as much money as people think we do to be happy.

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Then the world would be heaven I guess. Everything disputatious in this world is only for money.

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The first distinction I'd make is between Internet Marketing (The make money online niche) and online marketing (marketing your business online). There's so much rubbish told and sold as internet markeing, catering to the Shiny Object Syndrome addicts.

I'd only be involved in Internet Marketing if I could really add value for people.

Online Marketing is a different matter. Sure, I'd continue to market online even if I didn't need to make money anymore, which is how I interpreted the original question.

And I'd continue as a hypnocoach, helping people to unleash the potential of their minds.

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I'm on the warrior forum because I want to learn how to make enough money so that I can get to the point where money doesn't matter.

Also, IM is fun for me and is part of my ideal lifestyle.

If money didn't matter, I'd still blog, help people, connect with people, and learn.

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In response to the title:

LOL!

Let me expand on that without sounding like an arrogant idiot.

I laugh because that will never ever happen... EVER!

Everything requires an exchange of energy. Everything.

That energy for human to human interaction is money.

If it wasn't money it would be food, energy, water etc. Its still money in a way isn't it? Its just a way we humans tag it. And money is not even money. Its just an exchange of energy.

In an easy to explain way it comes down to Maslows hierarchy of needs.

The problem for people that get passed the point where they don't need money is two things. 1) their bills get bigger as does their bank account and so in turn has them in an inwards spin that they cant get out of and or 2) the compulsive part of their nature kicks in and they want to continue making money regardless of their situation.

I believe that Maslow's law is flawed as it stops and does not take into consideration the unseen and unknown realm of meta physics and what is not normal or currently not understood... paranormal; if you will.

And I dont think that this is true for all people either. People are different, we all have different roles.

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That's an interesting question. Actually, I hit the point a few years ago through simplification (reducing my living expenses) where I can live off of my investments. I live in Hawaii & spend most time outdoors, so it doesn't cost a lot to live a great life.

I decided to continue Internet Marketing because it does help me with an important mission. Empowering people. Money is part of our reality here on this planet at this time (until we all learn to cooperate & share the abundant resources on the planet).

Traditionally only the newspapers, goverment, radio stations, tv stations etc... had the power to send out their message to the masses. Now the AVERAGE person has that power through the Internet.

I want to empower thousands of people to build their own list of 10,000-100,000+. This way they can get people collaborating in various ways. There are lots of things that don't cost money (planting vegetables for instance is almost free).

This is a new paradigm that I believe will ultimately change the world economy & possibly even help us evolve past the need for money. We're still not there, but things are obviously changing.

Internet Marketing is simply a way to deliver value to people through the Internet. As long as your produce is making people's lives better you'll have as much money as you want. The more people you help, the wealthier you'll be. Not just in monetary terms, but also in the quality of your relationships ;)

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I think a better question to ask is, "If money didn't matter what would you be doing for others"

For me I would be a musician, (instead I am a web designer because it is almost impossible to make a lot of money as a musician)

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Wow.... definitely a different look into the whole ideal! I can't say I disagree, it does make sense, but to my [little] knowledge, did we humans not interact with one another in the very prehistoric times? What was the exchange then? From what I know (which could be wrong, I'm just spitting out debates) we hunted and gathered, ate it, and repeated the next day. In that case, there was no exchange to fuel greed, only the desire to live.

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I thought this was a good short video. How much is enough?

How Much is Enough? :: Mental Toughness Blog

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This question is pretty pointless and goes against nature of things. Mankind has been greedy from the start. A lot of us may not admit it but we all are greedy to a degree.

If money didn't matter then we all would be taking all we can from each other. There would be no barriers or lines. I'm not buying the whole "I'm a good guy and I help people" crap.

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I hear ya but money does matter. In fact its one of the most important things besides love. Walk onto the bank and try to deposite some love. Call your electric company and ask if they take love for payment. Unfortunately it does matter and we need to be open to except as much of it as possible. I had my eyes close for a second and was thinking about it... thanks for the perspective, very good

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Ya if there was no $ then we would still be using the barter system and chances are the internet would never have existed...

But ya the main reason why I love IM is not because of the money but it's the freedom that comes with making money on the internet. Money is just a by product

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I think about that everyday, and the best part is the answer is 100%, wholeheartidly, YES!

I love internet marketing. I love the challenges. There is no doubt in my mind that IM is my passion, my hobby - I'm addicted.

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if that were true... then I wouldn't be here... :)

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I am new on here and cannot figure out how to post something ... would you mind telling me how to post something in one of the threads. I am looking to purchase a solo ad from someone in the health and wellness niche. And wanted to find out who may know of such a list for solos

Thanks Joanie
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Well they say if you do what you love doing you become a master. People pay for your knowledge.

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Asking that question is one of the best ways to find your passion.

Ask any "really" successful person how they got to where they are and they'll tell you they followed their passion and the money eventually came.

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I've seen this video and heard the messages before and they still resonate.

I think some people might be taking this too cerebrally and therefore could potentially be missing those messages. On the other hand it could just be that the video and messages don't resonate which is okay.

The key point the video is trying to make comes at the end in the question that's asked.

BAYO

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I hate these hypotheticals. What if cows fly? What if...is a pointless game. All this wondering about things that don't exist keeps you from doing the things that are necessary to get your life moving.

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Since internet marketing is the attempt to sell goods and services online, if there were no means of exchange, what would be the point of marketing?

The "exchange" was shared energy, just as it is today. Then that energy took the form of cooperation for self-preservation, today it is money; but in essence exchanging something for money is still for the purpose of self-preservation. Instead of cooperating to hunt and gather food, we buy food from the shelf.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. ;)

While I agree with you to a degree, the what if game can have benefits. It depends on how you play the game. The "what if" question has led to many discoveries and advances in society. It's a basic question that propels scientific discovery.

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Of course not ... if money didn't exist, then no one would be selling products, so there would be nothing to market.

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I believe the video clip is saying that anyone who is financially struggling with resources tend to find a way to be a slave to money. The talk is not really about money but the illusion that we are a slave to money. If we become masters of our trades or skills then money would never be problem. But sad to say many would rather be a slave to it than pursue the dreams they always want to be and at the end of the day every person would regret following money rather than their dreams.

The vid clip said that if there is no money,then, what hinders us from our dreams? Would we want to go for our dreams and live a happy life? Surely, nothing would ever stop us from becoming who want to be. :) So I believe pursue your dreams, live up to it and become contented but never satisfied and don't ever be greedy. Share whatever you have because you never new you could also be a channel of light and hope to someone who is in need. :)

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Sounds kind of socialist to me. :P

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I would still be on the internet if money didn't exist. Even if money didn't exist I would still use it to trade goods and connect :)

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Ah Maslows hierchy brings back fond memories.....................My first thought when I read the topic was "Brave New World" or some type of utopian society, then I thought of Russia where everything os provided for you by the government.

Money being non-existent and Money being no problem are two differnt things in my mind. If money was not important, then I'm donating my time, skills and energy at a higher level than I am able to do now.

I would also probably play more golf.

Just my take
Lank

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This is exactly what I thought. The reason that I am not completely free from earning more money is I have not got enough money to support the ideal life style for myself, my family and my relationship with my community. Everything I do needs to have a purpose, so IM to me is a way I use to earn enough money to support my ideal life style.

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Money is just an expression of value, actually we are trading value, by the means of money.

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if money didn't matter, most probably I wouldn't be there :D

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The main immediate need for humans in order to stay alive is to have access to food and water. From there in my opinion it's having shelter. If this could be accomplished without money (in this system) then that would be great wouldn't it?

The videos message: "stop doing what you don't like and start doing what you like" is great, but if you live in a system that requires money to survive, and skydiving off a cliff, or running accross a beach in slow motion does not pay the bills, then the only solution is to either continue the search of finding a way to make money by doing what you like, or continue finding yourself at a job you hate. Most people live a life of the latter.

Arnold Stolting.

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I ask this question all the time in my private mindset sessions...

"If I was to give you five hundred billion dollars, what would you do with your life?"

The answer I'm looking for is "Indulge my hobbies and pursue my passions".

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If there were no money, I guess I will be helping people all day long, I mean sick people and people in need I think it will make me happy.

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I'd collect stamps.

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If I had 5 Billion dollars, I'd probably try to make the 6th :) and because of some weird conditioning from society or religious ideas instilled in most people, they would categorize me as evil or greedy. As long as you're trading a valuable thing or idea, there's nothing wrong with making money.

If money didn't matter, I'd like to have a sea side resort but sadly no one will give that up for free until I trade a certain amount of information and energy for it. I see it as increasing the efficiency of the world a tiny percent. I love internet marketing. I love making websites and programs that make me money. I'm tired of people asking me if I'd still do this if money didn't matter. Would you still workout if working out didn't matter? Does that mean you should completely stop working out and enjoy eating whatever whenever? No it doesn't because that's the difference between reality and a hypothetical.

Doing what you love is nice but at some point you have to stop being selfish and do something that society finds valuable and hopefully you can find a balance between what you love and what society finds valuable, if not, learn to love it!

I also want to point out that a lot of this arises because people have some type of guilt to making making money which is why most of them keep bringing this up.
"Isn't it bad to do something for the money?"
"Doesn't it mean I'm taking it from someone else?"
and so on. I would do whatever it takes to change that mentality first. If you have issues with making money while part of you is trying to make money on the internet, you're gonna have a baad time.

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Money is not the point. I think we are all trying to overcome self-imposed and external limitations... and many times money looks like a good indicator of whether we have done it. For example, when I think of starting a part-time gig I'm 1] trying to overcome or improve my experience of making a living solely through a pay cheque 2] thinking of new ways to solve a problem of a business owner 3] trying to make use of my computer savvy etc. and in all the cases if I make money it indicates I've achieved the above points.

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If you have anyone depending on you for their existence, there is absolutely every reason for you as the provider to in fact,provide.

So, even if money was not the base of exchange, I would in fact still have the responsibility,
no matter what the "currency".

This is a pleasant exercise in the imaginary, even if it were true, we would all be doing something to provide for ourselves and others

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This is easy for the self.
Factor in dependents, not so much

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Wow! This just completely blown me away!

Well, I do believe that by wanting to earn money is a “Desire”. Yes, as simple as that!

Now about the question:

First is, I want to make it clear that this question is hypothetical in sense. I mean clearly, “medium of exchange” is part of human nature.

But if that happens, I think my answer would be a big fat NO! As a matter of fact, there won’t be such things as business or marketing or finance. The list goes on and on and on…. Never ending!

I think my counter-question is what is the essence of Marketing?

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I saw that video a couple of weeks ago. I would love to be able to support my children and offer them this as their future instead of the, go to school, get a job etc. Most people work so hard and can barely afford to live these days!

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If that is what you would do then you are not following your passion. Your answer implies you are a healer. How can you incorporate healing in your business? There are many ways. Find the niche that supports what you would do and then use IM to facilitate it.