"What if money didn't matter?"

by swords 119 replies
Wow, I was just hit with an immense amount of realization after watching this. It couldn't fit anywhere more perfect than this forum.

The question anyone reading this should ask themselves: If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?

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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    If money didn't exist, we'd be using something else as a medium of exchange. So we'd like be doing whatever business we're in to acquire more of whatever we're using as a medium of exchange.
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    • Profile picture of the author swords
      Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre View Post

      If money didn't exist, we'd be using something else as a medium of exchange. So we'd like be doing whatever business we're in to acquire more of whatever we're using as a medium of exchange.
      That's not the point of the video. Whatever 'medium of exchange' that you are looking at, it poses the question "What if it didn't matter?".
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      • Profile picture of the author Ajay Tiwari
        Originally Posted by swords View Post

        That's not the point of the video. Whatever 'medium of exchange' that you are looking at, it poses the question "What if it didn't matter?".
        Marketing is part of trading whether its online or offline. And trading means exchange of things which could be anything. If there is no money still there would be something to exchange or trade because it's not possible for someone to have everything. Think about a simple example, if there is no food what will you do with your money or any other trading method to get food. Every human being have different things available as per their residential locality and ability. And if you are talking about non existence of trading then i believe, instead of calling ourself Human we would have called us Animals because we would have not exchanged ideas, technology or any other daily life needs. So where there is need there is trading or some sort of exchange that could be with money or without money.

        So answer for your questions ends here, as per the scenario you are asking any sort of marketing and WarriorForum would not have existed and you would not have asked this question anywhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    Why would any form of exchange exist if it didn't matter? That's where the video falls flat on its face.
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    • Profile picture of the author swords
      Originally Posted by sethczerepak View Post

      I think the point here is that underneath all currency is the thing which gives currency value and that's human need. Money moves because of human need. Take money away, and human need still exists, which once again creates the need to exchange services and product...which leads to the creation of a uniform exchange method for doing so.

      Problem is, people can get so focused on making money that they lose the understanding of what controls the flow of wealth. That's what's happening to our economy right now. This video does a great job of explaining how...




      The people who are too income focused usually have the least of it because they don't understand what controls the flow of wealth. It's human need, and that's why meeting human needs ought to be the goal of any successful entrepreneur, especially considering the transition that this ^ webinar talks about...pretty disturbing, but a great opportunity for the people who "get it."

      Anyway, thanks for posting this thought provoking post. My guess is half of the readers on this forum won't get it, but that's how these things work sometimes.
      I completely agree with you on the basis of creating the human need - this is where all majorly successful entrepreneurs have made their billions. However, you have to realize that humans didn't always have connections with one another and they only hunted for their own necessities, which proves to us that we have evolved since that time.

      That is where the video comes into place for me. If I had a substantial amount of wealth ("money didn't matter"), or I lived in prehistoric times and hunted and gathered for myself only ("money/trading didn't matter"), what would I want to do with my life? Would I really want to be on the WarriorForum trying to figure out the next way to make money, or how to defeat the next Google Update? -- probably not, and I think many people would agree.
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      • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
        Originally Posted by swords View Post

        I completely agree with you on the basis of creating the human need - this is where all majorly successful entrepreneurs have made their billions. However, you have to realize that humans didn't always have connections with one another and they only hunted for their own necessities, which proves to us that we have evolved since that time.

        That is where the video comes into place for me. If I had a substantial amount of wealth ("money didn't matter"), or I lived in prehistoric times and hunted and gathered for myself only ("money/trading didn't matter"), what would I want to do with my life? Would I really want to be on the WarriorForum trying to figure out the next way to make money, or how to defeat the next Google Update? -- probably not, and I think many people would agree.
        Dude, exactly, that's why I left the webinar link. It talks about the progression from that hunter gatherer economy to today. The point is that we live in an exchange based economy and those who understand these economic shifts (including the one that took us out of the hunter-gatherer age), they'll be a lot happier and successful cause they wouldn't be worrying so much about money.
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    As for my answer.

    I love helping people with problems. I love coming up with solutions. So being a life coach or business consultant is what I would do.

    My current job is handling in house internet marketing. Basically I consult but for one company only. It's not quite perfect but very close to what I truly want to do.

    I've never been on to live a life based on what others wanted.

    I grew up on welfare. That allowed me to see that really you can live a nice life not even working. So I never feared not having money because I knew the safety net was there and I saw how on that net you could stay home and play video games and watch cable (net wasn't around in the 80 when i was a kid on welfare). But by the time I was 20 I had made more money per year than my mom (single parent) ever had and all I was doing was following jobs I enjoyed.

    In high school I decided I wanted to be a teacher. Since I loved helping people and wanted summers off. You'll hear teachers talk about how hard it is. But the truth is they make it hard. The teachers who inspired me talk to me about what they really did. With proper time management it really is a 7 to 4 Mon to Fri job. So I went to college for less than a year and realized I didn't want to do anything that required college. Because even though I would have enjoyed being a teacher I wouldn't have enjoyed 4 more years of pointless homework (I could and likely still can ace most tests without having to study) and wasted time.

    At 19 I got my first job (not a fan of working) at Wal-mart. It was full time (minus like 3 or 4 weeks a year I had a set 40hr work week) and I made $1 over minimum wage (know what you are worth and never take less). While there I realized I kind of liked this retail thing. Retail management allows you to coach people professionally and allows you to do visual marketing (better known as merchandising). So I left Walmart to be a retail manager (walmart over works their managers or at least did back then).

    But over time realized that while I was making good money I didn't like the hours. At times they were long and you would go from days to nights and back.

    But over time I learned that since I was good at consulting I was good at selling. All selling is really is helping people buy things that benefit them. So finally I made it to a commission based retail store and became a sales manager which luckily had a long period of time as a trainee where I got to sell the same as the commissioned sales people.

    That allowed me to see first hand that I could sell and make the same or more money and yet be way happier. But the hours still sucked so I found an RV dealership that was only open till 5 (6 two days a week during summer).

    Of course while there I was able to give advice to the owners and we talked about the internet and how you could market better on the internet. Which lead over the years to more and more of my job being the marketing consultant halves.

    I am a great example of just doing things you love. I get bored so I need to change it up every few years (sometimes months) so of course my course evolved.

    I made money along the way because not only did i enjoy what I did but I was good at it. If I ever got tired of a job I quit. Two of those jobs I quit without having another job lined up. And people who know me know I have no savings so I didn't bring my own safety net. Most people would be afraid to do that. Because they worry about money vs. being happy.

    Being happy is more important. And if you have confidence in yourself you know you will land on your feet. I always have.

    So I have always done what makes me happy but in a way that will allow me to live the life I want (corvettes and other sports cars have high monthly payments). It wasn't hard. But to get started I had to stop listening to people who told me what I should do.

    Here is a tip for the young ones on the board. College is useless for the vast majority of careers. Before you do it decide if what you want to do with your life requires it. You can name most of those careers off the top of your head (engineer, teacher, doctor, lawyer, etc). If it doesn't are you going to college because you enjoy formal learning? If you can't answer yes to one of those questions you really shouldn't go to college. You will never get those 4 years back and time is worth more than money. Plus you will likely end up with $20k plus of debt and I am sure you can think of many things that you would enjoy spending $20k more on.

    So I know you can make a living doing what you want as long as you are good at it.

    I hang out on this forum because I love marketing and consulting. But I do see a lot of people on this forum who are here for the wrong reasons. They want to make money online but they do not love marketing. Some don't even love tech. There isn't really a reason besides "money" for them to be here. And even that really is the dream of "money for no effort" that they have bought into.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tuzio
    If money didn't matter I think we would trade friendship and compassion. Whats wrong with trading an item for an item of equal value? If we take out the intermediate paper promise I believe we would be happier and more compassionate.

    The problem is human need for betterment and ranking against others... How do we achieve it? More money.

    In regard to your question: No I would not be promoting businesses goods/services if money did not matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author swords
      @Aaron Doud

      Great post man, that is truly an inspiration. I'm only 19, so I can't relate to many things you mentioned except for the college part. I am currently a freshman at college, and although I don't like the classes, I DO love the networking and *cough* fun weekends. There is no better place, or time, to meet people and create these friendships. On top of that, it's very true when people say: "It's not how many people you know, it's WHO you know". These friendships may be beneficial to me someday, or maybe not, but that's none of my concern as they are just my friends.

      That's awesome you've always went to where you thought you'd be happiest though. I can't see myself quitting a job and not having another one lined up the next day, I would be scared of never getting another job. You're definitely on the right track to living a fulfilling lifestyle and a lot of people should take note of the post you just made.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    If money was not an issue, I would still publish information online, I just would not attempt to monetize it as much as I am doing. Maybe I wouldn't try to monetize it at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    swords,

    Once you are truly confident in yourself and understand that the worst really isn't that bad you can.

    But even then it is effort at times our mind will let us stay in a bad situation because fear of change is scary.

    I always tell people to get past that just think about the worst that could happen. Is it really that bad?

    In some ways starting my life on welfare and in public hosing gave me a unique view of this. The worst isn't that bad. I had food, friends, toys, and even a NES. Honestly some of the happiest moments of my life were the "worst". So why would I fear that?

    Quantify the "worst" and you can put that fear away. Then just follow the paths that make you happy. We don't need as much money as people think we do to be happy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      swords,

      Once you are truly confident in yourself and understand that the worst really isn't that bad you can.

      But even then it is effort at times our mind will let us stay in a bad situation because fear of change is scary.

      I always tell people to get past that just think about the worst that could happen. Is it really that bad?

      In some ways starting my life on welfare and in public hosing gave me a unique view of this. The worst isn't that bad. I had food, friends, toys, and even a NES. Honestly some of the happiest moments of my life were the "worst". So why would I fear that?

      Quantify the "worst" and you can put that fear away. Then just follow the paths that make you happy. We don't need as much money as people think we do to be happy.
      This is easy for the self.
      Factor in dependents, not so much
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  • Profile picture of the author mmrumii
    Then the world would be heaven I guess. Everything disputatious in this world is only for money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nic Oliver
    The first distinction I'd make is between Internet Marketing (The make money online niche) and online marketing (marketing your business online). There's so much rubbish told and sold as internet markeing, catering to the Shiny Object Syndrome addicts.

    I'd only be involved in Internet Marketing if I could really add value for people.

    Online Marketing is a different matter. Sure, I'd continue to market online even if I didn't need to make money anymore, which is how I interpreted the original question.

    And I'd continue as a hypnocoach, helping people to unleash the potential of their minds.
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  • Profile picture of the author rolough
    I'm on the warrior forum because I want to learn how to make enough money so that I can get to the point where money doesn't matter.

    Also, IM is fun for me and is part of my ideal lifestyle.

    If money didn't matter, I'd still blog, help people, connect with people, and learn.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      In response to the title:

      LOL!

      Let me expand on that without sounding like an arrogant idiot.

      I laugh because that will never ever happen... EVER!

      Everything requires an exchange of energy. Everything.

      That energy for human to human interaction is money.

      If it wasn't money it would be food, energy, water etc. Its still money in a way isn't it? Its just a way we humans tag it. And money is not even money. Its just an exchange of energy.

      In an easy to explain way it comes down to Maslows hierarchy of needs.

      The problem for people that get passed the point where they don't need money is two things. 1) their bills get bigger as does their bank account and so in turn has them in an inwards spin that they cant get out of and or 2) the compulsive part of their nature kicks in and they want to continue making money regardless of their situation.

      I believe that Maslow's law is flawed as it stops and does not take into consideration the unseen and unknown realm of meta physics and what is not normal or currently not understood... paranormal; if you will.

      And I dont think that this is true for all people either. People are different, we all have different roles.
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      • Profile picture of the author swords
        Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

        In response to the title:

        LOL!

        Let me expand on that without sounding like an arrogant idiot.

        I laugh because that will never ever happen... EVER!

        Everything requires an exchange of energy. Everything.

        That energy for human to human interaction is money.

        If it wasn't money it would be food, energy, water etc. Its still money in a way isn't it? Its just a way we humans tag it. And money is not even money. Its just an exchange of energy.

        In an easy to explain way it comes down to Maslows hierarchy of needs.

        The problem for people that get passed the point where they don't need money is two things. 1) their bills get bigger as does their bank account and so in turn has them in an inwards spin that they cant get out of and or 2) the compulsive part of their nature kicks in and they want to continue making money regardless of their situation.

        I believe that Maslow's law is flawed as it stops and does not take into consideration the unseen and unknown realm of meta physics and what is not normal or currently not understood... paranormal; if you will.

        And I dont think that this is true for all people either. People are different, we all have different roles.
        Wow.... definitely a different look into the whole ideal! I can't say I disagree, it does make sense, but to my [little] knowledge, did we humans not interact with one another in the very prehistoric times? What was the exchange then? From what I know (which could be wrong, I'm just spitting out debates) we hunted and gathered, ate it, and repeated the next day. In that case, there was no exchange to fuel greed, only the desire to live.
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      • Profile picture of the author Vallank2
        Ah Maslows hierchy brings back fond memories.....................My first thought when I read the topic was "Brave New World" or some type of utopian society, then I thought of Russia where everything os provided for you by the government.

        Money being non-existent and Money being no problem are two differnt things in my mind. If money was not important, then I'm donating my time, skills and energy at a higher level than I am able to do now.

        I would also probably play more golf.

        Just my take
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      Originally Posted by rolough View Post

      I'm on the warrior forum because I want to learn how to make enough money so that I can get to the point where money doesn't matter.

      Also, IM is fun for me and is part of my ideal lifestyle.

      If money didn't matter, I'd still blog, help people, connect with people, and learn.
      This is exactly what I thought. The reason that I am not completely free from earning more money is I have not got enough money to support the ideal life style for myself, my family and my relationship with my community. Everything I do needs to have a purpose, so IM to me is a way I use to earn enough money to support my ideal life style.
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  • Originally Posted by swords View Post

    If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?
    That's an interesting question. Actually, I hit the point a few years ago through simplification (reducing my living expenses) where I can live off of my investments. I live in Hawaii & spend most time outdoors, so it doesn't cost a lot to live a great life.

    I decided to continue Internet Marketing because it does help me with an important mission. Empowering people. Money is part of our reality here on this planet at this time (until we all learn to cooperate & share the abundant resources on the planet).

    Traditionally only the newspapers, goverment, radio stations, tv stations etc... had the power to send out their message to the masses. Now the AVERAGE person has that power through the Internet.

    I want to empower thousands of people to build their own list of 10,000-100,000+. This way they can get people collaborating in various ways. There are lots of things that don't cost money (planting vegetables for instance is almost free).

    This is a new paradigm that I believe will ultimately change the world economy & possibly even help us evolve past the need for money. We're still not there, but things are obviously changing.

    Internet Marketing is simply a way to deliver value to people through the Internet. As long as your produce is making people's lives better you'll have as much money as you want. The more people you help, the wealthier you'll be. Not just in monetary terms, but also in the quality of your relationships
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    I think a better question to ask is, "If money didn't matter what would you be doing for others"

    For me I would be a musician, (instead I am a web designer because it is almost impossible to make a lot of money as a musician)
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Schuman
    I thought this was a good short video. How much is enough?

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  • Profile picture of the author ceenote100
    This question is pretty pointless and goes against nature of things. Mankind has been greedy from the start. A lot of us may not admit it but we all are greedy to a degree.

    If money didn't matter then we all would be taking all we can from each other. There would be no barriers or lines. I'm not buying the whole "I'm a good guy and I help people" crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    I hear ya but money does matter. In fact its one of the most important things besides love. Walk onto the bank and try to deposite some love. Call your electric company and ask if they take love for payment. Unfortunately it does matter and we need to be open to except as much of it as possible. I had my eyes close for a second and was thinking about it... thanks for the perspective, very good
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Ya if there was no $ then we would still be using the barter system and chances are the internet would never have existed...

    But ya the main reason why I love IM is not because of the money but it's the freedom that comes with making money on the internet. Money is just a by product
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  • Profile picture of the author Anoosh Kashefi
    I think about that everyday, and the best part is the answer is 100%, wholeheartidly, YES!

    I love internet marketing. I love the challenges. There is no doubt in my mind that IM is my passion, my hobby - I'm addicted.
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    if that were true... then I wouldn't be here...
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    I am new on here and cannot figure out how to post something ... would you mind telling me how to post something in one of the threads. I am looking to purchase a solo ad from someone in the health and wellness niche. And wanted to find out who may know of such a list for solos

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  • Profile picture of the author Reese Fabro
    Well they say if you do what you love doing you become a master. People pay for your knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author MyNewMama
    Asking that question is one of the best ways to find your passion.

    Ask any "really" successful person how they got to where they are and they'll tell you they followed their passion and the money eventually came.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bayo
    I've seen this video and heard the messages before and they still resonate.

    I think some people might be taking this too cerebrally and therefore could potentially be missing those messages. On the other hand it could just be that the video and messages don't resonate which is okay.

    The key point the video is trying to make comes at the end in the question that's asked.

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    • Profile picture of the author BillyPilgrim
      I hate these hypotheticals. What if cows fly? What if...is a pointless game. All this wondering about things that don't exist keeps you from doing the things that are necessary to get your life moving.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Since internet marketing is the attempt to sell goods and services online, if there were no means of exchange, what would be the point of marketing?

        Originally Posted by swords View Post

        Wow.... definitely a different look into the whole ideal! I can't say I disagree, it does make sense, but to my [little] knowledge, did we humans not interact with one another in the very prehistoric times? What was the exchange then? From what I know (which could be wrong, I'm just spitting out debates) we hunted and gathered, ate it, and repeated the next day. In that case, there was no exchange to fuel greed, only the desire to live.
        The "exchange" was shared energy, just as it is today. Then that energy took the form of cooperation for self-preservation, today it is money; but in essence exchanging something for money is still for the purpose of self-preservation. Instead of cooperating to hunt and gather food, we buy food from the shelf.

        The more things change, the more they stay the same.

        Originally Posted by BillyPilgrim View Post

        I hate these hypotheticals. What if cows fly? What if...is a pointless game. All this wondering about things that don't exist keeps you from doing the things that are necessary to get your life moving.
        While I agree with you to a degree, the what if game can have benefits. It depends on how you play the game. The "what if" question has led to many discoveries and advances in society. It's a basic question that propels scientific discovery.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    Originally Posted by swords View Post

    If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?
    Of course not ... if money didn't exist, then no one would be selling products, so there would be nothing to market.
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  • Profile picture of the author jay walters
    I believe the video clip is saying that anyone who is financially struggling with resources tend to find a way to be a slave to money. The talk is not really about money but the illusion that we are a slave to money. If we become masters of our trades or skills then money would never be problem. But sad to say many would rather be a slave to it than pursue the dreams they always want to be and at the end of the day every person would regret following money rather than their dreams.

    The vid clip said that if there is no money,then, what hinders us from our dreams? Would we want to go for our dreams and live a happy life? Surely, nothing would ever stop us from becoming who want to be. So I believe pursue your dreams, live up to it and become contented but never satisfied and don't ever be greedy. Share whatever you have because you never new you could also be a channel of light and hope to someone who is in need.
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    • Profile picture of the author ronrule
      Originally Posted by jay walters View Post

      I believe the video clip is saying that anyone who is financially struggling with resources tend to find a way to be a slave to money. The talk is not really about money but the illusion that we are a slave to money. If we become masters of our trades or skills then money would never be problem. But sad to say many would rather be a slave to it than pursue the dreams they always want to be and at the end of the day every person would regret following money rather than their dreams.

      The vid clip said that if there is no money,then, what hinders us from our dreams? Would we want to go for our dreams and live a happy life? Surely, nothing would ever stop us from becoming who want to be. So I believe pursue your dreams, live up to it and become contented but never satisfied and don't ever be greedy. Share whatever you have because you never new you could also be a channel of light and hope to someone who is in need.
      Sounds kind of socialist to me.
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    I would still be on the internet if money didn't exist. Even if money didn't exist I would still use it to trade goods and connect
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    • Profile picture of the author MintSEO
      Originally Posted by rnvc View Post

      I would still be on the internet if money didn't exist. Even if money didn't exist I would still use it to trade goods and connect
      This.

      I would still use the internet too.

      I think if money didn't matter then everything would be different!
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    Money is just an expression of value, actually we are trading value, by the means of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author laracoates28
    Originally Posted by swords View Post

    Wow, I was just hit with an immense amount of realization after watching this. It couldn't fit anywhere more perfect than this forum.

    The question anyone reading this should ask themselves: If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?

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    if money didn't matter, most probably I wouldn't be there
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  • The main immediate need for humans in order to stay alive is to have access to food and water. From there in my opinion it's having shelter. If this could be accomplished without money (in this system) then that would be great wouldn't it?

    The videos message: "stop doing what you don't like and start doing what you like" is great, but if you live in a system that requires money to survive, and skydiving off a cliff, or running accross a beach in slow motion does not pay the bills, then the only solution is to either continue the search of finding a way to make money by doing what you like, or continue finding yourself at a job you hate. Most people live a life of the latter.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    I ask this question all the time in my private mindset sessions...

    "If I was to give you five hundred billion dollars, what would you do with your life?"

    The answer I'm looking for is "Indulge my hobbies and pursue my passions".
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  • Profile picture of the author adikoprcike
    If there were no money, I guess I will be helping people all day long, I mean sick people and people in need I think it will make me happy.
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    • Profile picture of the author CathyAnn
      Originally Posted by adikoprcike View Post

      If there were no money, I guess I will be helping people all day long, I mean sick people and people in need I think it will make me happy.
      If that is what you would do then you are not following your passion. Your answer implies you are a healer. How can you incorporate healing in your business? There are many ways. Find the niche that supports what you would do and then use IM to facilitate it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Aflex007
        Hi,

        Great post, i just realized that i would do internet marketing anyway

        Because it is really exiting and for me it is like hoby.

        And yeah internet marketing lets you build your business to level that money does no metter anyway andyou can do everything you want
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian F Adams
    I'd collect stamps.
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  • Profile picture of the author CPAGodFather
    If I had 5 Billion dollars, I'd probably try to make the 6th and because of some weird conditioning from society or religious ideas instilled in most people, they would categorize me as evil or greedy. As long as you're trading a valuable thing or idea, there's nothing wrong with making money.

    If money didn't matter, I'd like to have a sea side resort but sadly no one will give that up for free until I trade a certain amount of information and energy for it. I see it as increasing the efficiency of the world a tiny percent. I love internet marketing. I love making websites and programs that make me money. I'm tired of people asking me if I'd still do this if money didn't matter. Would you still workout if working out didn't matter? Does that mean you should completely stop working out and enjoy eating whatever whenever? No it doesn't because that's the difference between reality and a hypothetical.

    Doing what you love is nice but at some point you have to stop being selfish and do something that society finds valuable and hopefully you can find a balance between what you love and what society finds valuable, if not, learn to love it!

    I also want to point out that a lot of this arises because people have some type of guilt to making making money which is why most of them keep bringing this up.
    "Isn't it bad to do something for the money?"
    "Doesn't it mean I'm taking it from someone else?"
    and so on. I would do whatever it takes to change that mentality first. If you have issues with making money while part of you is trying to make money on the internet, you're gonna have a baad time.
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  • Profile picture of the author ekalaivan
    Money is not the point. I think we are all trying to overcome self-imposed and external limitations... and many times money looks like a good indicator of whether we have done it. For example, when I think of starting a part-time gig I'm 1] trying to overcome or improve my experience of making a living solely through a pay cheque 2] thinking of new ways to solve a problem of a business owner 3] trying to make use of my computer savvy etc. and in all the cases if I make money it indicates I've achieved the above points.
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    If you have anyone depending on you for their existence, there is absolutely every reason for you as the provider to in fact,provide.

    So, even if money was not the base of exchange, I would in fact still have the responsibility,
    no matter what the "currency".

    This is a pleasant exercise in the imaginary, even if it were true, we would all be doing something to provide for ourselves and others
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  • Profile picture of the author mert
    Wow! This just completely blown me away!

    Well, I do believe that by wanting to earn money is a “Desire”. Yes, as simple as that!

    Now about the question:

    First is, I want to make it clear that this question is hypothetical in sense. I mean clearly, “medium of exchange” is part of human nature.

    But if that happens, I think my answer would be a big fat NO! As a matter of fact, there won’t be such things as business or marketing or finance. The list goes on and on and on…. Never ending!

    I think my counter-question is what is the essence of Marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Bexy
    I saw that video a couple of weeks ago. I would love to be able to support my children and offer them this as their future instead of the, go to school, get a job etc. Most people work so hard and can barely afford to live these days!
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  • Profile picture of the author abilify182
    I'd probably still be doing some sort of marketing, because it's fun and I'm able to help a lot of people. Now if only I have the intelligence/brains...
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Originally Posted by swords View Post

    Wow, I was just hit with an immense amount of realization after watching this. It couldn't fit anywhere more perfect than this forum.

    The question anyone reading this should ask themselves: If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?

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  • Profile picture of the author BigGameHunter
    What would you do if there was no air? To take part in this exercise here is my 2 cents.
    There will always be a medium of exchange like there will always be air as long as people are on the planet.

    If money is your motivation you are doing things for all the wrong reasons. People throughout history have chased money only to be disappointed.

    I build houses. I love construction and the results it produces as an end product. My love for the process shows in the end results. I sell them to families or rent them.

    I grow corn on my farm. For my efforts I want to produce more corn than I plant (yield). I feed it to my chickens and pigs to produce the best meat my family can get.

    I sell each with the expectation of profit (yield). My motivation is not the money. Building and farming are my motivation. In exchange for my efforts money is the by product commonly referred to as profit.

    There is no such thing as.... Internet Marketing. Marketing is marketing whether online or off. The major difference in how we apply marketing principals is the business model we choose. No matter what you produce marketing will be necessary the same as money ( medium of exchange) and air for survival.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigGameHunter
    Here's another perspective...

    I am a real estate investor. I have money so money is not a motivation to me.

    I only do things I love to do and learn how to make a profit doing it. For example: If I loved fishing I would set up a fishing charter service. I would love to take people fishing, show them what to do to catch fish.

    My greatest profit would be seeing the smiles on their faces when they caught a cooler full. For this day of fun I would collect my fee. Money or no money... I would make a profit doing what I loved to do. If you do this...YOU WILL NEVER WORK A DAY IN YOUR LIFE!

    Personally, I love being on my farm.Riding the tractors and messing with the animals. My profit center is letting others hunt on the farm. Talking hunting is a wonderful past time for me.

    I will not do anything I don't like to do no many how much money it pays.
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  • Profile picture of the author aerm85
    Definitely, I will do something that involve help people without asking for money. Maybe Internet Marketing for helping people!
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  • Profile picture of the author CyborgX
    If money didn't matter, I would not bother doing silly things. I would rather concentrate on spiritual facts and focus on after lives. And make sure I make everyone happy everywhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    This is truly one of the most powerful videos i've seen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
    Originally Posted by swords View Post

    If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?
    No, not when we could all be living a happy, healthy, well-adjusted life... like those people in Afghanistan. Or North Korea. Or several countries in Africa.

    Amazing the mind-games people play with themselves.

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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Bumstead
      If money did matter I would have to figure out a different way to impress the ladies... Just joking... (no but seriously!)


      As much as the above statement was a joke, has anybody read Chapter 11 of Think and Grow Rich? I know you have... Just planting the seed for you to think about this from yet another angle.
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  • Profile picture of the author techbul
    There is always a medium of exchange. When there is an offer, there is always a demand!
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  • Profile picture of the author aerm85
    I'll be doing the same... IM for nonprofit causes.
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  • Profile picture of the author stopper
    If money did not matter I would be doing the best job on earth. Farming and feeding then world
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  • Profile picture of the author designitbuddy
    Its universal truth that everything done by the human being are about 80% for money. A person may drive a taxi, doing a job, business, we are here at IM. so all these are for obtaining money and to fulfill their basic needs which is impossible without money.
    May be some people doing activities like charity organization but not all people. I think people should admit that money is necessary and all we are doing is for money.
    If we see then love, friendship, relations are also mostly done by the people while keep in mind the position of the partner.
    My wording may have harsh someone emotions but its true and should think about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author GT
    If money didn't matter I would still do the Internet Marketing things I do now ... I just wouldn't be as stressed about what 'some' people (non-Intenet Marketers) think about what I do, and about the times when I compare the cost of some marketing methods to the low return rate.

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  • Profile picture of the author park2013
    Once you have enough money, you can go after what you really wanted to do as a hobby.
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  • Profile picture of the author thisisraz65
    if money does not fact, i may not do day job........
    Rather, i will focus on internet marketing and some sorts of creative activity..
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  • Profile picture of the author shane1234
    What I got from this video, is that there's more to life than just money. So the question was then asked what if money didn't matter? I say it wouldn't matter if money didn't matter.

    Money is simply a tool used to properly distribute the resources that exist. Another system would take the place of money and the same question would arise once again. However to not take the question literally and understand the implications of it, my answer would be there would be no difference.

    By removing money or the need of money, you aren't removing the desire to obtain it. And by it I mean power! Power and money is interchangeable for that's whats obtained when it's accumulated.

    In this world power is used to obtain resources, by any means applicable. And if death and the sickness of human life is what's needed to obtain it, then so be it. In order for the implication of this video and this question to truly be answered, or rather for such an ideal to be possible, we must change our way of thinking.

    We must change the way we feel towards calamity, genocide, starvation, and manifest those feelings into actions toward a solution. If human life is our priority, if the life of your neighbor outweighs the cost of your cell phone bill, then and only then would money not matter.

    It is people who matter. In fact, it is life. We instinctively seek power and equate it with money. If we transition what it means to have power from something bad to something good, then obtaining power would be beneficial. What if power dictated, who can save the most lives today? Or who can feed the most hungry? Or who could cure this rare disease first?

    Money isn't the root of all evil, it's ignorance. By truly understanding what matters, and spreading that knowledge to the people. The world will be in a state of benevolence oppose to malevolence. Thus prioritizing every living soul over money.

    Nice post!
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  • Profile picture of the author chasnsx
    In fifteen to twenty years, we could reach a point where money does not matter. Futurists say that by then we will be able to create artificial intelligence more intelligent than the entire human race combined, and a little after that, capable of increasing its own intelligence, or of creating other artificial intelligences more intelligent than itself. This is the point of singularity. If our creation is benign, then it will solve our material needs by creating what NASA used to call the Von Neumann machine, or the Santa Claus machine -- a machine capable of replicating anything including itself.

    With material needs solved, the only remaining thing at a premium is creativity.
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  • Profile picture of the author highrider21
    Originally Posted by swords View Post

    Wow, I was just hit with an immense amount of realization after watching this. It couldn't fit anywhere more perfect than this forum.

    The question anyone reading this should ask themselves: If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?

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    If money were non existent, then I don't think marketing of any kind would exists so Internet Marketing wouldn't exist.

    If money wasn't a problem (i.e. I was already rich) then I would probably spend my time similar to what I was doing in highschool. I would skateboard and/or snowboard a lot, smoke a lot of weed, and try to get laid as much as possible; I would also go to college for fun and take classes I was interested in, and maybe learn computer programming and hacking for fun.

    My dream was actually to become a professional skateboarder when I was younger but that never happened. And that is kind of the problem with what he says in the video, to "follow your passion" so to speak. He is suggesting to do what you really love and eventually you will become good enough at it that you will get paid to do it (I think that's what he was said toward the end of the video). But the problem is only very very few people become good enough at what they love that they can make a living at it. For example a lot of kids in highschool dream of becoming a professional basketball player, football player, rapper, or whatever, but only very few actually are talented enough to make a living with it. And that's why most people end up doing something they don't like, or only somewhat like. They realize they aren't going to achieve their dreams from highschool and so they get a normal job. Or even worse, you are doing what you love and are so good you are ahead of your times and don't make any money, like Van Gogh, he only sold one painting in his life and it was to his brother, he struggled to sell his paintings his entire life.

    You are really lucky though if your passion is something academic like computer programming, math, or science, or something you can actually get an advanced degree in and get a good paying job in.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    I'd still do marketing. I love being able to coach people I've never met and enjoy that, whether its strategy or on specific software like Magic Submitter, Spin Chimp or Market Samurai (it's what I've been doing for a while now). But my main focus would be: Studying Ninjutsu (and one day teaching) as well as Scuba diving and teaching that. Being under the water is just sooo beautiful and peaceful. If I could grow gills I would.
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyyarnsbro
    If money didn't matter then i'd stick to the old barter system, this is the best way also that corruption be stopped in our country other countries as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jolly Roger
    Can't access the video.

    But the way I see it, money is just another tool. Like any tool it's the way we use it. The way we use it is determined by how we understand it.

    The economical system has been made complicated so we can't understand it easily, let alone getting rid of it. Meantime, it's setting the rules of most of our lives, and our health. Mind you, a virtual tool... numbers, paper, computers... how disturbing.

    I see two questions in the thread's title: What if money didn't matter to you?
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    What if money didn't matter at all?

    What if money didn't matter to you: either you have a lot of it, or none at all. You care because you are involved somewhere in the middle.

    If money didn't matter at all today, most of the people wouldn't go to their job and we would quickly need to find something else. Pretty much without electricity, transportation, security, health care, you name it. And almost no food or clean water. Society will have to get a new face through a hard crisis, but I'm sure it would be a more... human one

    We could learn a lot from these "primitive" tribes that are treated harshly because the way they think and live is not part of money system. Before they get decimated, too.

    For every time we spend money -or earn it- we cast a vote for the way we want things to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author ramcon
    If money didn't matter, I think there will be other "medium of exchange" or barter will still be used.
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  • Profile picture of the author WalterW
    If money wouldnt matter when i would be lazy as **** and would watch some movies and play games all day.

    But since its matters and i want to get things achieved i have to work and it fun
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  • Profile picture of the author jbearnolimits
    I have heard the love of money is the root of all evil...

    I guess the world would be a better place wouldn't it?
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  • Profile picture of the author ADRD
    I watched a film called "In-Time" that was based around time being a currency. It was fantastic to follow the story, and a very well thought out concept.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diego Ayala
    But, money does matter ~ @ least for those that have joined this forum. We all have passions, hobbies, etc. I got into IM to make extra money - just another way of marketing products/services. I have been employed for 30 plus years, and have done many part time jobs to supplement my income and this has helped me to pursue "passions" and things I love to do - from composing music to traveling, to been able to volunteer and help out when needed. If money did not matter I am sure I would have not found this great website to help see things in many different colors ~ and i am sure that if money was not a problem, I would be playing guitar @ the beach most everyday, but I am happy to say that I can do this at least during the weekends, because money is what helped me end up in my new home in a little beautiful island in the south Pacific. I would still be doing my passions, and would have (I guess) more time to do them on a regular basis...

    Hence, want to continue with IM so that I can help myself pursue my passions - which also includes supporting my Mother and helping 2 of my sisters + economically
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  • Profile picture of the author Rsherwood
    Honestly, I love internet marketing. Its a constant challenge that keeps my on my feet and my brain firing on all fronts. Its unique and to claim high end status ship is a true testament to how determined you were to show the world you WILL NOT BE BEATEN!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrewards
    I enjoy working, so maybe I may still do IM even the money didn't exist.
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  • If there would be no money I guess there would be no animals will live in the forest instead they will stay in every house in order to trade it for goods.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alien66
    Originally Posted by swords View Post

    Wow, I was just hit with an immense amount of realization after watching this. It couldn't fit anywhere more perfect than this forum.

    The question anyone reading this should ask themselves: If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?

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    Money never matters.. but Freedom Does..

    So.. what's freedom? I'll tell you. It's the ability to enjoy a lifestyle that provides happiness to your family, food, shelter, and the best education. It is the ability to wake up and not have to answer to anyone but yourself.... unfortunately... you must earn money at some point to allow for this freedom to occur. So.. those of us that have graduated from two colleges with a JD/MBA and then suffered in the working world realize how precious freedom really is.. Then we abandon that BS and get into Internet Marketing and change our life! oh.. ya.. I know all about this as I've done exactly that.. Here's my You Tube sharing my thoughts on this very topic! Link Out Here
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  • Profile picture of the author ilana
    its never about the money ist what the money can give in to your life what is the value add. what money can do for you . and what you actually doing to achieve it
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  • Profile picture of the author serbyy2
    what woult it worth if money didn't matter?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lokahi
    It is something that I rather enjoy, so I most likely would be. I know sometimes we get into this rush where all we see is money, but for me, working can be rather relaxing at times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hermanson
    Love makes the world go around, my friend. If any sort of "means of exchange" didn't matter, it would be apparently that we would live in order to love others. I believe that deep deep deep....DEEEEP down, this is how to world actually functions. Whatever is the best thing for others is the motivating force behind every action.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    Originally Posted by swords View Post

    If money was non-existent or not a problem, would you honestly be doing Internet Marketing?
    Absolutely¾Yes.

    I'd still be building my Information Publishing Organization however instead of charging for ebooks I'd give them away for free or perhaps donate all the profits to charity.
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  • Profile picture of the author joesfortune
    How could when nobody would ever, ever invent the computer. Bill Gates came up with the Microsoft for the money. The rest is history, isn't it?
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    I visited the link but I can't see anything about money matters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zincabopa
    Read the first few posts and had a bit of a laugh, some people take things too seriously haha. I didn't click on the link yet, but I have a feeling it's a video with Alan Watts narrating?

    In my opinion one of the most important things you should always have in your life is passion. Any kind of passion. What makes you excited to wake up every morning? What makes you excited to live every day? It can be music, visual arts, dance, writing, reading, and so on.
    The trick is finding a career where you are able to pursue your passion, yet still contribute to society (which in turn will allow you to make a living).
    I think money is a good thing, I have nothing against it. It's only when money is not distributed fairly (i.e. people get greedy) then there is a problem.

    But to answer your question, if money didn't matter, I would still be doing what I am doing now. I'm currently studying a subject that I am passionate about in university with aspirations of working to develop better medical devices (IM is something I'm doing on the side). Physics is genuinely a subject I am passionate about, and it is always a pleasure learning.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ignas LT
    If money wouldn't be an option I would like to spend my life doing some extreme sports or any other sports I like. I remember when I was a kid I wanted to become a basketball player. So if money wouldn't be an option I would like to become a great NBA basketball player.
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  • Profile picture of the author joesfortune
    If money is non-existent or doesn't matter, internet marketing will be the least of things that will pop in my mind. The more pressing question is, "What would be its substitute to allow us to survive?"
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  • Profile picture of the author dndoseller
    Yes because I use Internet Marketing to share my passion and calling which is creating music : )
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  • Profile picture of the author mpollak450
    I have two parts. If money didn't matter I could very well be marketing on the internet to promote a good cause. After all the stuff I promote now is all about helping people.
    The second part is the twist to if money didn't matter and that is when you have so much money that money is not a question as to what you'll do. I'd say that founding what you do based on how much money you get is off base. Founding what you do based on truly helping others means that you'd be doing the same thing even if money were not an issue. Doing good really is the key to all this.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    I would go into cigarette smuggling because that would be the new currency.

    Second I would emigrate to join the resistance overseas, because the communists have taken over the country
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  • Profile picture of the author Vortex015
    Money of course does matter. But I have this vision of everyone in the world being best friends. I think if money were somehow gone it would help that vision. But I don't necessarily think that will happen. I think it all comes down to developing a giving heart. If you are in giving mode when you work, the money doesn't matter. And when you simply do it because you love it, then the money comes much faster. That's been my experience.
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    If money did not exist or had no matter, than everyone would do things for themselves to get food. When there is money, we try to survive by earning it. So if no money than we would survive to feed ourselves. And people would make exchanges between them as before money existed. Internet marketing would again work and I would be doing it. Because again it would be a matter to promote the things you have or to search for things. As an example I've tomatoes and would like to exchange some of it with cucumbers. Or any other stuff that is needed.
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    • In itself, money is the outcome of our efforts to sell a good or a service.
      The same as having more clients is the outcome of our efforts in prospecting.
      Ultimately, exhaling is the outcome of breathing. You get the point.

      The key idea is “any action is generating an outcome”, big or small.

      For sure we live in an economic system where today – in order to provide for ourselves and family – money serves as a currency. At some point in History, in different parts of the World, (playing) cards, bulks of wheat, bags of rice, rolls of silks or pieces of gold were the “currency of the day”. Something a carpenter, for example, would get in return for his service or good, and be able to exchange with a baker, in order to get a loaf of bread.

      As we grow up, go to school and start to work, we develop a knowledge and set of skills. Something we hope someone or a company needs and is ready to pay for; a client. (Let it be for a contract, regular or permanent basis – like in a job) Because we need to start making a living for ourselves.

      Steve Wozniak started designing personal computers when they didn’t really exist. (Read story) Muhammad Ali became a boxer at a time where there were already plenty. (Part 1, Part 2) Bill Bowerman (Nike’s co-founder) started making customized shoes when Adidas was already a World leader in the running shoes market. (Read story) Wozniak, Ali and Bowerman all got good money out of what they did. Not because it was their goal – of making money. Because it was the outcome of something they loved doing; bringing computer technology within the range of the average person (Wozniak), proving no limitations could be imposed on someone who believes in himself (Ali), providing to every athlete the tools they need to get better at what they’re doing (Bowerman).

      Now, to rephrase swords initial question, what if you could do whatever you want to get money? What would you do? Would you still do what you do these days – for a living, to provide for yourself – or else?

      Me? I bring the best out of History to inspire those who want to make their impossibles possible. Because I believe no impossible lasts forever when taken on by a lit up imagination. Just like History proves it everyday.
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  • Profile picture of the author markdawes
    This video complements what you guys are talking about brilliant;y. I use it when lecturing and teaching to motivate my learners: What if Money Was No Object - Alan Watts - YouTube
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  • Profile picture of the author Ean Stark
    If money didn't matter, I'll become lazy naturally and would not do what I'm doing everyday.

    Live your dreams,
    Ean
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  • Profile picture of the author tobyjensen
    Even without money we would still have a system of barter.

    So, I guess this is about having your basic needs met, then what would you do?

    What do you want to do? (Really?)

    It is what you do in your time off. What do you do on the weekends?
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      Isn't there some video that went crazy viral a couple of months ago with this exact same title? Was interesting video -
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  • Profile picture of the author dndoseller
    No, I wouldn't be doing Internet Marketing if money didn't matter.

    I think the video is 100% right and I wish I knew it 30 years ago.

    But I know now, and I'm moving on... so all good : )
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  • Profile picture of the author AaronBurton
    Heck no haha, I only got in this industry to make money. My main passion is game development. But the things ive learned in marketing will carry on with me forever.
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    • Originally Posted by AaronBurton View Post

      Heck no haha, I only got in this industry to make money. My main passion is game development. But the things ive learned in marketing will carry on with me forever.

      Aaron, you say your main passion is Game development. If you were given or could create the opportunity, what exactly would be the service or product you'd offer a Gaming company - like Ubisoft, EA or else?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProductReviewGuy
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    If money didn't exist, the world would be a selfish place in my opinion. There would be only subsistence farmers who look after their own family. Tech wouldn't advance over the years and there would be no future flying cars etc. So no, if money didn't exist, I wouldn't be doing internet marketing. Money is my motivation to succeed and live a better life.
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  • Profile picture of the author thet
    But it does matter. End of story. What if we didnt die? What if aliens lived among us?

    I understand its fun to fantasize, but back to reality, tomorrow you will be standing at the gasstation filling your tank.
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    • Originally Posted by thet View Post

      But it does matter. End of story. What if we didnt die? What if aliens lived among us?

      I understand its fun to fantasize, but back to reality, tomorrow you will be standing at the gasstation filling your tank.

      Hi thet.


      There are many ways to get the money to fill a gas tank. One is to do something you like (or maybe even love) for work. Another is to do something you don't.


      If you were able to choose, which job would you do? That's what this post's initial question is about. No fantasy. Just plain reality
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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony Shama
    this is a great question for most people never even their mind for such a question and for such an imagination
    this video the explain it so fully about what a world would be like if money is no longer exist.
    after watching the video, you will be likely to find the answer you are looking for. one things for sure, in such a no-money world, i would do what i love the most " scientist", and everyone should be doing the carrier they love the most as well. unfortunately, in today world, most people only think about earning a lot of money__which is not wrong on its own___they live their entire life without knowing what deep down inside they love to do and which will benefit the society.
    i think a better question to ask is " what carrier will you still do even you are not paid a single cent forever for doing it? "
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  • Profile picture of the author brookeharper08
    What if money didn't matter...people would probably go crazy doing what they want, spending time with people that they love, and putting more effort on what really matters - intangible things (love, friendship, experiences, you name it).
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  • Profile picture of the author AL Hummel
    Really does make you think. Great stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author Joyce Birmingham
    Money makes the world go round so that's a difficult concept.
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  • Profile picture of the author jw22777
    If money didn't matter, I would be chilling on the beach all day or just doing something I enjoy.
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  • Profile picture of the author timexer
    That question could be asked about any profession. Teachers, lawyers, architects. You name it.

    I'd still be doing it if it was fun, if I could treat is a hobby. Otherwise? No. Just like with any other job.
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