forget the law of attraction

by Odahh
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So after many many years are you still trying to get it right to attract or manifest the things you want ..

are you reciting goals that never get achieved most of the time..and visualizing a life of abundance that only seems to bring enough money to buy the next book or tape course .

today we live in a world where the creators and the co creators who know what they want to create ..and learn to put the many many many tools available to express and profit from what they create .

If you are going to use the law of attraction.. forget thinking happy thoughts living in a big house with a poll a nice car and lots of money in the bank ..

Pick what you would be real interested in creating that other want or have a need for.. and set your mind to attracting in the thing you have to learn ..the tools you have to get to create it .. and the people and resources you need to support it ..

if you want happy thoughts about the future .. forget the lifestyle ..

Imagine havign a big stack of bills every month that you can pay effortlessly and have happy memories of each thing you did to run up those bills ..

or even better .. forget needing to own houses to live in them.. imagine you develope your creative skills to a point where very rich people will let you live in their homes and fly you around in private jets ...to make your stuff just for you .. and still pay you a large amount..
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  • Profile picture of the author conanedo
    do you meant we should imagine the "process" or a way how we can get a lot of money?
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      forget the lot of money part ..that is what hangs most people up ..most people have a bunch of crap beliefs about money so they will never really do anything to make a lot .. so the law of attraction gets used as an out or a process that they can use ..and claim they really don't have to do anything ..

      what i will get at more if the post goes on ..

      is instead of using the law of attraction to bring you stuff.. let it bring you events that give you focus and your most productive outlet to do stuff that people will pay you for.. but you do ..and can do pay or no pay

      for me .. i am really really broke right now ..and the law of attraction has been pointing me at writing .. but i have completly lacked the confidence to try ..6 months ago someone came into my life who could edit my writing ..and help me publish ..

      I have still been in denial about even doing ..so the Loa has brought in a series of increasingly painful situations or more so ..took away my ability to numb stuff that has gone on much of my life ..

      so in the last we i have finally broke and focus on doing it .. and i have gotten very clear ..just still have trouble getting the money to get started
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  • Profile picture of the author mert
    What are you talking about? You're exactly re-iterating the law of attraction.

    It does not only focus on dreaming about "things that never happens" it's about avoiding the negative thoughts and get into the right mindset of achieving whatever your goal is.
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyyarnsbro
    Law of attraction is an epic, lol. what are you talking about?, well anyway it's your opinion and everyone is entitled to that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    when you get up in the morning and move through the day do you constantly think about the law of gravity ..or how it works .. or when you where very young did you figure out how to adjust to it ..

    the common view of the law of attraction ..focuses on using it to get stuff.. forget that .

    Move beyond trying to use the law of attraction to get more money or more stuff ..

    Eight now everything you are attracting and that is coming into your life is pushing you to grow and expand even the stuff that looks like it is negative right now .

    Many times if you leave it up to the law of attraction to push your growth and deliver things to you .. it will first have to take stuff away ..

    You can dream of driving a new car all you want . but some times the law of attraction will need to remove the car you have now to make you take the actions to get the new car .

    I will explain further . But the key i am trying to get at is. don't leave it up to the loa to take the actions needed ..for you to then get what you want.. let the law of attraction provide options for actions you must take .
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  • Profile picture of the author dalemetal
    Odahh You do have it right in a sense, I feel you have been partially listening to Abraham Hicks, but not really hearing it. Try Burt Goldman the american monk, (free on youtube) If you actually have a mindset to succeed you will. And yes the negative thoughts will drag you the wrong way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by dalemetal View Post

      Odahh You do have it right in a sense, I feel you have been partially listening to Abraham Hicks, but not really hearing it. Try Burt Goldman the american monk, (free on youtube) If you actually have a mindset to succeed you will. And yes the negative thoughts will drag you the wrong way.
      i don't think anyone would be in her seminars .. if that wasn't the case for most people

      and yes Goldman's influence on the self development industry goes back further than abraham -hicks i think i have watched or listened to most of his videos once ..

      negative thoughts are a problem ..but a big problem with the law of attraction is that people plug in a lot of negative beliefs that look like positive beliefs .

      if you do not have the mindset that can handle what goes along with having a lot of money ..Then walking around imagining and trying to attract a large amount of money.. most likely is detrimental .

      think about the big story for a few weeks last year .. the woman who won a million dollars and never got off food stamps ..the government took more than half .. she bought a couple houses and had no income so she was basically back to being broke .

      treat the law of attraction like breathing ..and don't focus on what you are attracting ..but the purpose what you have attracted serves in your growth.. then chose to grow a certain way and not in reaction to what you attract ..

      so you attract in bad to decide on what good you want to attract then attract that..then you attract more bad to decide you want good .

      Get beyond that because today .. you can jump from one good experience to just as good but different experience without needing to attract bad experiences .

      Personally i have found that a lot of the stuff i use to think very happy thoughts about and try to attract .. did not really fit me or would not have served me ..they where basically furnishings of a much more confortable prison ..
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Imagining and wishing is not enough. You also need plans you ACT UPON in order to get there. Bob Proctor and anyone else who talks about the Law of Attraction and The Secret does NOT say to just sit there and wish and it will all come to you.

    You have to go DO something about it as well. The Law of Attraction helps you as you go out into the world and mix it up...things come to you in a very serendipitous way. Think And Grow Rich has the same message.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

    So after many many years are you still trying to get it right to attract or manifest the things you want ..

    are you reciting goals that never get achieved most of the time..and visualizing a life of abundance that only seems to bring enough money to buy the next book or tape course .

    today we live in a world where the creators and the co creators who know what they want to create ..and learn to put the many many many tools available to express and profit from what they create .

    If you are going to use the law of attraction.. forget thinking happy thoughts living in a big house with a poll a nice car and lots of money in the bank ..

    Pick what you would be real interested in creating that other want or have a need for.. and set your mind to attracting in the thing you have to learn ..the tools you have to get to create it .. and the people and resources you need to support it ..

    if you want happy thoughts about the future .. forget the lifestyle ..

    Imagine havign a big stack of bills every month that you can pay effortlessly and have happy memories of each thing you did to run up those bills ..

    or even better .. forget needing to own houses to live in them.. imagine you develope your creative skills to a point where very rich people will let you live in their homes and fly you around in private jets ...to make your stuff just for you .. and still pay you a large amount..

    What you are seeing seems to be pretty in check with the overall LOA framework.

    With that said...the lifestyle is one of the most motivating factors there is...and for many people, it's even more motivating than the stack of bills. So I would need to disagree with you on that point
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    • Profile picture of the author BillyPilgrim
      'This didn't work for me so it won't work for you..."
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I don't think he's saying it doesn't work. I think he's saying constant focus on money tends to remind us of what we don't have. In his case, enough money. And that just brings more of the same. That's the law of attraction in a nutshell. We attract the thing foremost in our thoughts, emotions and moods whether we want them or not.

    He's saying that the law of attraction is pointing him toward writing and that inside he believes that's his thing. But he has doubts. And even with the doubts he's still moving forward because his positive feelings are more powerful than the negative ones.

    There was a book out years ago with a title like, Find Your Passion And The Money Will Follow. The underlying premise there is the LOA. If we immerse ourselves in stuff we're passionate about we don't have to "try" and think happy thoughts. They come on their own because being passionate about fun stuff allows positive thoughts to grow and take root.

    At least I think his point is close to this. Maybe not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    yay travaling guy gets it..as close as anyone can..

    now that one person understand i can risk advancing the point .

    the law off attraction is a basic element in how thing work .. and the main stat of the univers as we observe it now is growth and expansion ..when things stop growing they tend to decay and die .

    everything that you attract you attract to grow.. if you refuse to grow .. you will either start to decay or die .

    when i say forget the law of attraction . figure out why you been attracting everything you have been attracting into your life .. and stop waiting for the law of attraction to present situations to grow .. and start choseing how you want to grow and then letting the law of attraction work for you .. rather than Attracting the same situations over and over until you finally figure out how to grow .

    do you currently need something to not be working before you do any work on it ..in which case the law of attraction will break stuff so you can fix ..

    or do you have a list of things you are getting better at .. so even though they are good you can still improve.. so the law of attraction is constantly providing you ways to improve .. and for stuff you need to work on .. it does not need to create a disaster.. just point out when not working on this area holds back progress in others ..

    now when you go on the second path some things in your life that you have always been able to deal with ignore or cope with .. will need to be settled
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  • Profile picture of the author techbul
    I wish a wealthy family would invite me to their mansion. Dream come true!. Having said that, you can never drift away from reality. Ambitions, dreams, aspirations are all very different what what is real and what we really possess.
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  • Profile picture of the author Transcend Awake
    Generally its' best not to listen to someone who isn't making money about how to make money. No offence intended here. Just being honest.

    Just like you wouldn't trust an obese person to teach you about how to be fit.

    Nevertheless, there is a valuable point here... that of learning to apply oneself to serving others in a way that people will pay for.

    To get fit, we need rituals that we love, and we can do consistently that bring results. I know how to keep fit, and I'm sure some of that can apply to making more money... but hey... I'm not making loads myself so I can only speculate on this one.

    Anyone here in the conversation who does make a load who can comment?
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Tran send..i am not talking about how to make a lot of money..

    the problem with the law of attraction ..is it is assumed to be successful with it you must pile up a lot of money..or aquire a large amount of stuff ...

    so anyone who doesn't is assumed to be a failure ..

    money is never yours it is the governments that printed the money ..every Us dollar is a debt note .. and it works out that the best ways to earn a lot of it are do be willing to manage lots of debt ..

    true abundance has very little to do with money .. and it helps to open up to letting things flow to you in ways that have nothing to do with money .. or very little to do with money ..

    which is a more interesting life.. making a lot of money and being able to eat 4 and 5 star meals out all the time .. learning how to cook high quality meals that taste just as good .. and bypassing the need to make that money .. but still eating the best quality food ..

    many of the richest people did not first refine their ability to make money.. many started out with nothing or they where the black sheep in families with means .. or they didn't become the spoild brats .. they developeds resourcefulness outside money .

    They found stuff they enjoyed doing that made them money and expanded from there to do more of it and grow their abilities ..

    Donald trump wants to build the biggest best building .. and has grown several buisinesses from that mindset .. and made himself rich .. and at one point billions of dollars in debt ..

    for me i want to eat the highest quality food i can.. and right now i have to figure out how i can move a certain places and grow the food i want .. but with what i am studying .. because i do not want to grow food the coomon way people grow food .. i can probably produce quite a bit extra to sell ..and a program to teach people who to use my method.. and a few other thing..

    but even if those don't happen and i just grow high quality food for me and the ones a love.. better than you can get in any store ..i will always have that know who ... and be able to set up anywhere ..

    But chances are from the desire to grow my own high quality food .. i could also generate an income that will take care of other things ..
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    I think the biggest detriment to mankind is using big words. It does nothing but confuse people. They read, they contemplate, they study trying to figure out this LOA thing. Just stop it.

    You dont work you dont eat. Set your sights high, and, try and reach your goals through strategic planning, and, work . How To Build A $100 Million Business In Two Years - Forbes
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  • Profile picture of the author BillyPilgrim
    "the problem with the law of attraction ..is it is assumed to be successful with it you must pile up a lot of money..or aquire a large amount of stuff ..."

    I don't think it does. I think that's your assumption about it and thus is a straw man argument. Everyone defines what success means to them and therefore what they focus on and attract. This is a forum about making money but other such venues use the LOF for entirely different outcomes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by BillyPilgrim View Post

      "the problem with the law of attraction ..is it is assumed to be successful with it you must pile up a lot of money..or aquire a large amount of stuff ..."

      I don't think it does. I think that's your assumption about it and thus is a straw man argument. Everyone defines what success means to them and therefore what they focus on and attract. This is a forum about making money but other such venues use the LOF for entirely different outcomes.
      you are right . everyone define what success means to them differently ..

      i am explain what i am trying to explain from the wrong angle or not stripped down enough .

      what i am trying to get at .. is try not to play to much in the stuff you want to attract in the future .. to the detriment of your success or feeling of success in this moment .or get in a place where you are more successful every day .

      Instead of hiding in thoughts of nice things out in the future and reliving pains of the past ..Identify and solve the problems you have that have happened over and over .. and let those success build toward a future with more success .

      Success builds success .. but it is also good to get to a point where you do not need problems to decide to do things differently or seek to improve .
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    right now i am at a weird point and going through stuff that i can't even find people talk about in the spiritual minded forums .

    I have moved past a point where there is anything i need to forgive in the past or let go of in the past few months everything that has happened to me in my life has come together now to give me several options for moving forward ..so the realy is nothing to forgive ..as i get the p[oint of the why it happened ..

    The big thing in the last few months has actually been to weed out and remove many of the dreams and fantasies that where there more to cope with what seemed like hell to go through ..and replace them with options to think about more in line with who i am now ..actually more in line with who i want to be .

    there are several repeating patterns though ..that i need to figure out how to interrupt .. and i think i just interrupted a huge one ..in one area . and i am about to make a big move that will put the end to another huge repeating one ..

    and in the course of the run of this post ..i relized it is time i should stop having my forum posting style model fox news ..haha
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