Living In Paradise!

11 years ago

Originally Posted by LastingLifeSuccess

If we lived in paradise I would think we could consume all day long and never have to deliver value back to others not living in paradise.

All we would have to do is consume whatever we wanted and all would be well with the world because "that's how it is in that special place".

Do you agree with this belief ? Or, is there no such thing as paradise for us Warriors?

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LastingLifeSuccess 11 years ago

Nice move, bluecoyotemedia! I was impressed with the website you directed me to.
I am not ready for such a move as yet, but thanks for the sweet offer. Looks like you guys are going places without moving a muscle.

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Joe Mobley

11 years ago

I'm not going with your definition of "living in paradise." The idea that, even while consuming, we are not making a contribution doesn't make sense to me.

Perhaps you have an example?

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Originally Posted by LastingLifeSuccess

If we lived in paradise I would think we could consume all day long and never have to deliver value back to others not living in paradise.

All we would have to do is consume whatever we wanted and all would be well with the world because "that's how it is in that special place".

Do you agree with this belief ? Or, is there no such thing as paradise for us Warriors?

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Odahh

11 years ago

this kind of paradise is called prison .

if we don't find an avenue to be productive or express our creativity .. we are doomed to depression..and other kinds of illness and mental illness .

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LastingLifeSuccess

11 years ago

Joe,

I am saying paradise is relative like so many other human concepts. Consumption only may be viewed by another as a contribution to them; somehow for them a positive value.

The perpetual consumption part was meant to create a proposition for the reader so they could counter with their own.

Thanks for expressing a thoughtful interest.

LLS

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Joe Mobley

11 years ago

My observation comes from a vacation to the Bahamas with a significant other at the time.

We had a great time with no problems. We ate well, slept well, drank well, played well, etc. We also paid well and tipped well. It was a win-win (or at least a benefit-benefit) for everyone.

Thinking back, I can not think of a downside for anybody involved.

The other side of the coin is thinking about how most of the humans on the planet lived prior to the 1500's. Not much consumption, not much production, not much of a life. I think I'll pass if given the option.

A think a nice, healthy balance of consumption and contribution works well for me.

But that's just me.

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Originally Posted by LastingLifeSuccess

Joe,

I am saying paradise is relative like so many other human concepts. Consumption only may be viewed by another as a contribution to them; somehow for them a positive value.

The perpetual consumption part was meant to create a proposition for the reader so they could counter with their own.

Thanks for expressing a thoughtful interest.

LLS

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by LastingLifeSuccess

If we lived in paradise I would think we could consume all day long and never have to deliver value back to others not living in paradise.

All we would have to do is consume whatever we wanted and all would be well with the world because “that’s how it is in that special place”.

The way you define "Paradise" is someplace that doesn't exist, except in our imagination.

Would you really want to live in a way where you take, take, take, and give nothing back? How would you have a sense of self-worth? How would you be valuable? What reason would you have to exist?

What a shallow worthless life that would be. Just my opinion.

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Joe Ray

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

The way you define "Paradise" is someplace that doesn't exist, except in our imagination.

Would you really want to live in a way where you take, take, take, and give nothing back? How would you have a sense of self-worth? How would you be valuable? What reason would you have to exist?

What a shallow worthless life that would be. Just my opinion.

In the Paradise where you live in infinite abundance, where you have everything you ever need, you would not have any understanding or concept of giving or taking.

When you have everything, you wont have a concept of taking anything because its already yours and you would not have any concepts of giving anything because everyone already has everything.

Also, you would not need self worth, self esteem, self confidence, actually you might not even have the concept of self there.

Maybe we are living in that place already, we just don't know it. So, we are turning it into hell by giving and taking, because we think we don't have anything. Maybe at the moment of our conception, we already inherited the infinite universe with it's endless abundance, maybe we have it all! Haha....

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Ray

In the Paradise where you live in infinite abundance, where you have everything you ever need, you would not have any understanding or concept of giving or taking.

When you have everything, you wont have a concept of taking anything because its already yours and you would not have any concepts of giving anything because everyone already has everything.

Also, you would not need self worth, self esteem, self confidence, actually you might not even have the concept of self there.

Maybe we are living in that place already, we just don't know it. So, we are turning it into hell by giving and taking, because we think we don't have anything. Maybe at the moment of our conception, we already inherited the infinite universe with it's endless abundance, maybe we have it all! Haha....

Ahhh, I think I saw that same Twilight Zone episode.

The only people I know that are living in a paradise like that are in mental institutions....or dead.

What an incredibly boring and useless life that would be. No, thank you.

Just more proof that I have no business being in this "Mind Warriors" section.

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Dennis Gaskill

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Ahhh, I think I saw that same Twilight Zone episode.

The only people I know that are living in a paradise like that are in mental institutions....or dead.

What an incredibly boring and useless life that would be. No, thank you.

Just more proof that I have no business being in this "Mind Warriors" section.

Let me just say, I understand why you say that. It's more or less the same reason I mostly just read in this section and offer few comments.

However, you do belong here because, well, my amusement would be diminished without your presence.

Besides ... I'm sure you know plantings seeds is as important as reaping the harvest.

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LastingLifeSuccess 11 years ago

Joe, Great reply and cool story as well, Storyteller! I also almost can't get over the fact that I just got on line and posted a thread to the Mind Forum about consumption vs. production.

The phrase you chose in your reply (this thread) was "consumption vs contribution". I was amazed at that coincidence. It's like somehow I was tracking with your reply before I even read it. . . . and that I would come back across it at all to answer now is, . . .my goodness.

Thank you for your reply, Joe.

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- LastingLifeSuccess 11 years ago
  
  Hi Mr. Claude Whitacre,
  
  I like your opinion. Fair enough on the contribution to others. Self worth and all that.
  
  I always enjoy sharp wit, clear thinking and common sense. Thank you.
  
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  LastingLifeSuccess 11 years ago
  
  Hi Joe Ray Me!,
  
  That is about the deepest post I have read thus far through out many of these forums.
  
  Holy Smoke! I liked the clarity of those thoughts, and, by the way, I agree with you completely.
  
  This is it!
  
  Thanks Joe Ray,
  
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  LastingLifeSuccess 11 years ago
  
  Hi 40HourFitness,
  
  I liked your post. Good solid know what I like and I can go get it mentality. Very powerful stuff 40. If I may call you 40.
  
  The honest approach like you use to gauge your progress, your happiness, your paradise is a one I like and respect.
  
  Thanks again, 40!
  
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  LastingLifeSuccess 11 years ago
  
  Dear Dennis Gaskill,
  
  Thanks for responding to Claude's great post. I like his spunky attitude. Go Claude.
  
  Later,
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Anne0521

11 years ago

Paradise is a perfect place!!..No problems at all. People who live in paradise are innocent,..they're in this kind of bubble where they are secluded/hide from the real world where all kinds of evil exists.

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Bhekizwe

11 years ago

Self worth is a major factor.God given talents put to use(contribution).....

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11 years ago

LOVE GOD ALMIGHTY AND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORS AS YOURSELF.

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tarad

11 years ago

I do. But even every demigod knows that they've got a part to play (in the life of others) I think for IMers our part (or responsibility) is to make sure that everybody we have the opportunity to serve get more in value of what they bargained for. This and only this I believe is the True Road to Eternal Sucess in our Bankly Paradise

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