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Ok, was expecting this Category to get opened. Here i am learning SEO for websites. I had attended a seminar on Web Development there people where talking about Mobile SEO

Can any 1 help me how dose this thing work ?? is it same as what we do for Websites ?? or is there any other strategy ?

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Originally Posted by fr3quenzy View Post

Ok, was expecting this Category to get opened. Here i am learning SEO for websites. I had attended a seminar on Web Development there people where talking about Mobile SEO

Can any 1 help me how dose this thing work ?? is it same as what we do for Websites ?? or is there any other strategy ?
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I have found the same rules of basic SEO apply. Mobile sites are a separate website and hence have all of the same SEO needs.

Be sure to pay attention to the page title tags, add a description, keywords, and do good on page SEO linking strategies.

You will find that these sites will begin ranking on their own.

Hope this helps!

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Originally Posted by known View Post

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I have found the same rules of basic SEO apply. Mobile sites are a separate website and hence have all of the same SEO needs.

Be sure to pay attention to the page title tags, add a description, keywords, and do good on page SEO linking strategies.

You will find that these sites will begin ranking on their own.

Hope this helps!

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Actually I disagree. A mobile website should not be looked upon as a separate website - it is simply an alternate version of your current website. Your standard website is the one that you should concentrate on ranking in regards to SEO.

The whole point of a mobile site is to be lean in content thus they don't give much in the way of SEO. Of course, as with ANY page you put online you should always do basic things like meta tags, header tags, alt image tags, etc, but don't waste too much time since it is your main website that is going to make the big difference and will always outrank your mobile site.

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Sorry Will, I have to disagree with you.

The stats tell me the mobile sites are ranking on their own.

They are a sub domain of the main site and are ranking right along with the parent site.

First rule of online marketing and search engine result pages is you have to be on the page.

You've got ten spots on page one. If you aren't occupying those spots then your competition is. A mobile version of a website becomes a functional and additional ranking site.

People are using the search function on their Smartphones. The search engines are rendering results based upon SEO.

I say optimize the pages. It's about getting traffic to the site. The only way to do that is to be in the rankings.

Your software helps to make that happen.

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Hi Cheryl,

Am also with Will on this - I have done extensive research on this - obviously you can do what you think is best but for me i would spend more time optimizing and ranking your main site, so that anyone with a mobile device visiting your site simply gets redirected to the mobile version. Why risk pushing your main site further down the SERPS to promote your mobile site - doesn't make sense well not to me.

Ask yourself do you want desktop users to find your mobile site before the desktop version? I guarantee anyone pulling up your mobile site on a desktop will be like wtf! lol and will end up being another bounce statistic...

Either way i wish you the best of luck with whatever direction you decide to go if you would like to discuss further you know where i am!

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Originally Posted by known View Post

Sorry Will, I have to disagree with you.

The stats tell me the mobile sites are ranking on their own.

They are a sub domain of the main site and are ranking right along with the parent site.

First rule of online marketing and search engine result pages is you have to be on the page.

You've got ten spots on page one. If you aren't occupying those spots then your competition is. A mobile version of a website becomes a functional and additional ranking site.

People are using the search function on their Smartphones. The search engines are rendering results based upon SEO.

I say optimize the pages. It's about getting traffic to the site. The only way to do that is to be in the rankings.

Your software helps to make that happen.

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Cheryl,

I understand what you are saying however if you submit a proper Google Mobile sitemap for your mobile site (and you should) then Google won't rank the sites along side each other because they realize one is just a different version of the other. If you don't do this then you run the risk of penalizing the rankings of your main website due to duplicate content on the same domain.

It's very easy to create a mobile sitemap. Simply take a look at the example Google sitemap below. Copy the code into a new text file and name it something like sitemap.xml, then change the urls so they reflect all the urls of your mobile site. Then upload the sitemap to your mobile site and link to it somewhere from your mobile site.

http://www.google.com/mobilesitemap.xml

Alternatively you can download the attached text file, add your own mobile website urls in to it and then rename it as sitemap.xml instead of sitemap.txt. Then you simply upload it into your mobile website folder and link to it from the mobile website so Google can easily find it.
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Originally Posted by WillR View Post

Actually I disagree. A mobile website should not be looked upon as a separate website - it is simply an alternate version of your current website. Your standard website is the one that you should concentrate on ranking in regards to SEO.

The whole point of a mobile site is to be lean in content thus they don't give much in the way of SEO. Of course, as with ANY page you put online you should always do basic things like meta tags, header tags, alt image tags, etc, but don't waste too much time since it is your main website that is going to make the big difference and will always outrank your mobile site.
Will - Thanks for taking the time to provide the information.

However, I'd like to bring up the point that you're overlooking an important element here. Let the main site outrank the mobile site. If the main site is ranking on page one in spot one and the mobile site is ranking in spot two that means your competitor isn't there.

Code is provided to redirect the user based upon their device and I've added code to the bottom of pages to encourage visiting the main website from a desktop model. Now wouldn't you rather see that on page one instead of your competitor's message?

Everything on a mobile site links to the main site providing inbound links. There is no penalty. If anything this will help to boost the main site up in the rankings. They are inbound links. They are a vote.

Why should a mobile site be lean in content? What if a person never uses a desktop computer? Why not provide helpful information a visitor is seeking above and beyond the usual Find Us and Contact Us?

There are millions of businesses out there without physical locations. What about them? You're shutting out an audience.

People are searching for solutions. Let the visitor decide. My clients' website stats prove they visit and go deep on a site. They are sticky. They do not bounce away from the site.

It is a linking and ranking opportunity for bricks and mortar businesses and service types of businesses without a physical location.

Sorry, the numbers support this. And so do the incoming calls and increased business.

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Hi Will!

I just read a great article on Search Engine Land about Mobile sites.

Consider Mobile Content Carefully For Users & Better SEO

"by Bryson Meunier | searchengineland.com
I’ve spoken a lot in these columns about the differences between mobile SEO and desktop SEO, often warning webmasters to do more than just reformat their desktop content for smaller screens. But if you’re in the process of creating a mobile site, you may be wondering what to put on your mobile site that’s different than what is on your desktop site.
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This was posted on the 19th and provides a different perspective!

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Mobile SEO may be the SEO which was done for the website on Search engine when the era of search was started. Once the competition on such Mobile search engine increases so the techniques to rank for the website. While doing mobile SEO make sure to have proper linking of the website, don't have more than 1 click linking, less flash and content too...
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I am running a mobile news portal @ Latest Breaking Hot News On Mobile! based on current hot trends in Google Search.

This is what I did for that particular website:-
1. Create a subdomain for mobile (for e.g m.GerbangJutawan.com)
2. Create a mobile sitemap and submit it to Google via Google Webmaster Central.
3. Minimize the page size as minimum as possible (especially the image's size and content)
4. Check the result using Google Analytic Tool and monitor your traffic sources from mobile devices.


So far, so good. Hope it helps.

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Originally Posted by known View Post

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I have found the same rules of basic SEO apply. Mobile sites are a separate website and hence have all of the same SEO needs.

Be sure to pay attention to the page title tags, add a description, keywords, and do good on page SEO linking strategies.

You will find that these sites will begin ranking on their own.

Hope this helps!

Cheryl

I don't consider it as a separate website but an extension website rather but still needs to be optimized using the basics of SEO.
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I didn't even know it was possible to do SEO for mobile, going to have to look into this!
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If you need some tips for mobile seo,Used it.I hope it will work 100%


1. Develop a Device Agnostic Approach

2. Leverage Traditional SEO Practices on a New Platform

3. Incorporate Linking and Digital Newsletters
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I always see difference in google search results of my mobile and pc.

When googlebot crawls pages in mobile search it always try to find the websites which are most compatible with mobile phones.

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Actually - Will, Cheryl - you're BOTH right.

Good SEO, ultimately, depends on the content of your site, the keywords you focus on, and the method you use to place the content in the search engines.

Yes, a mobile site CAN be a separate site, and in my opinion, it should be, or at least, it should be according to the method where mobile sites are placed into the search engines.

But a mobile site should also be the same site as your main site, in terms of content, functionality, and keywords.

So... if the difference is simply the method by which you submit your site, how do you differentiate the two? the short answer is, you don't, you let Google do that for you.

You see, Google Bot crawls sites that are placed in it's path, according to the source of the url it's provided.

If it finds an organic link in a standard site or sitemap submission, it crawls it as any normal desktop computer... however, if the link comes from a mobile site, or mobile sitemap, along comes the Google-mobile crawler...

It's a simple matter of producing three sitemaps for the great Google-bots to find and crawl.

Yes, I said THREE.

There is a third form of sitemap, that all of the search engines will recognize, that is more powerful than any mortal sitemap!

Do you remember the robots.txt of so long ago, when collage and government sites were all that existed on the world wide web, before the dotcom bubble burst? Why did it fade into obscurity? Well, it hasn't really. It grew up, and got a wife and a job.

The robots.txt and humans.txt files that used to be the "Be All - End All" of site submission, had 3 children, the oldest being sitemap.xml, and the youngest being sitmap-mobile.xml... but the middle child, the one that everone seems to forget, went into the family business... the sitemapindex.xml

Now you may not have ever heard of SitemapIndex, simply because your site doesn't have over 50,000 URL's to index, but if you are using your site for multiple content types, news, images, video, flash animation, or mobile, then you should be using sitemapindex to reference all of them.

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